Palin, False Rumors And An Odd Ad

CBS Evening News: Breaking Down The Good, Bad And Ugly Of This Week In Politics

(CBS)  Every Thursday up until Election Day, the CBS Evening News will take some time to assess the presidential campaign - and how it's going. CBS News senior political correspondent Jeff Greenfield will be our guide to The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. You can learn more about this series over at Couric & Co. blog.

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The Good

It's the most tactically successful move of the entire campaign: John McCain's pick of Gov. Sarah Palin.

It energized the conservative base of the Republican Party and given McCain the chance to claim the "change" label. Not so incidentally, it's turned the focus of the campaign away from economic policy, into the realm of culture and values - where Republicans have been winning with rural and working-class voters for the better part of 40 years.

Could Palin's experience, views, campaign performance yet prove a liability? Sure. But she could also be the first vice-presidential pick since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1960 to alter a presidential campaign for the better.

The Bad

This past week also provided more proof that partisans are fully prepared to believe the worst of the other side, no matter what the facts.

When Democrats gathered in Denver, delegates waved thousands of American flags to show they were as patriotic as the next guy. A week later FOX News reported that Democrats had thrown these flags away.

Bloggers on the right jumped all over the story - as more proof that when Democrats chant "USA! USA!" they have their fingers crossed.

Except that, as convention officials said, the story wasn't true. The flags were bundled for later use.

Bloggers on the left had their own exercise in mythology, circulating a list of the books Sarah Palin wanted banned from her local library when she was Mayor.

It was an eye-opening list, to be sure - more proof that conservatives hate the whole idea of free expression. Except that the list wasn't true. It included books that hadn't even been published back in 1996, like the Harry Potter books.

The Ugly

As for, well, if not the ugly, the "what-planet-is-this?" category - check out an ad from Kentucky, where Republicans gleefully aired a web ad featuring supporters of Democratic Senate candidate Bruce Lunsford in a frank and open exchange of views with an intrusive camera operator.

"Get off their property, a**hole," the alleged Lunsford ally said.

"It's a sidewalk," the cameraman said behind the lens.

"Listen you ... get the f*** off their property."

"I'm gonna take this camera and stick it somewhere you don't want it," the cameraman said before the footage ended.

As Greenfield said in reaction: Sounds just like the first Lincoln-Douglas debate.

[mydiatribe]

Bill O''Reilly put the wood to Barry O. as plainly as anyone could.
Why do you have ALL THESE UGLY friends???
Didn''t Barry''s Grandmother teach him he would be judged by the company that he keeps!

[x-republican]

O''Reilly lied, calling people who supported the same legislation that Obama supported his "friends," which is like saying McCain and Hitler are friends because they both like Apple Pie. O''Reilly is a fraud who simply controls interviews by interrupting and yelling over the person he is interviewing every time that person is about to make a point.

[homespunlady]

So let''s get back to ISSUES like the continuing BANK FAILURES.

DEJA VU - "DAD''S KEATING all over again? HOW do these guys GET AWAY with NOT being HELD RESPONSIBLE?
Silver State Bank in Nevada is shut
Sep 6, 1:29 AM (ET)
By MARCY GORDON

WASHINGTON (AP) - Regulators on Friday shut down Silver State Bank, saying the Nevada bank failed because of losses on soured loans, mainly in commercial real estate and land development.

Nevada regulators closed Silver State and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. was appointed receiver of the bank, based in Henderson, Nev. It had $2 billion in assets and $1.7 billion in deposits as of June 30.

Andrew K. MCCAIN, a SON of Republican presidential nominee John McCain, SAT ON THE BOARDS of Silver State Bank and of its parent, Silver State Bancorp (SSBX) (SSBX), starting in February but resigned in July citing "personal reasons," corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission show.

Andrew McCain ALSO was a member of the bank''''s AUDIT COMMITTEE, responsible for oversight of the company''s accounting.

The younger McCain, who is the chief financial officer of Hensley & Co., the beer distributorship of which Cindy McCain is chairwoman, is the Arizona senator''s adopted son from his first marriage.

Silver State Bank ran into difficulty because of a substantial amount of "poor-quality loans primarily related to real estate development"

[homespunlady]

HERE''S an ISSUE BOTH PARTIES are TAP DANCING AROUND:

In Palin''s case, her jobs have been relatively ACCOMMODATING to HER NEEDS and the CHOICES of WHAT TO COMPROMISE appear to have been relatively MINOR so far for her.

When I was a Military member - the job of PART-TIME Mayor with an ADMINISTRATOR to do the work while I was at my kid''s games like Palin had would have been GREAT but I would have been accused of "shirking my DUTY"!

I can''t IMAGINE the military allowing ME to choose where I wanted to stay so I could SIT HOME WITH MY KIDS and collect 312 days of Per Diem (usually for out of town travel) payments in LESS THAN 2 Years!

And, having my baby "room-in" at my DUTY STATION while I worked would have had me BOOTED OUT rather than praised.

There were COUNTLESS OTHER COMPROMISES that I and MILLIONS of REAL FULL-TIME WORKING moms have made and PALIN has NOT but one thing IS obvious to me.

In a job that DEMANDS FULL ATTENTION or the CONSEQUENCES could destroy THOUSANDS OF LIVES ..

(like George''s Priority of "brush cutting" on HIS property OVER paying attention to "Bin Laden might attack" warnings)

- it might be more SENSIBLE to be able to FOCUS WITHOUT DIVIDED ATTENTION and everyone ELSE SACRIFICING and COMPROMISING while Palin takes special PRIVILEGES instead.

[faizal3-2009]

Bill O''Reilly put the wood to Barry O. as plainly as anyone could.
Why do you have ALL THESE UGLY friends???
Didn''t Barry''s Grandmother teach him he would be judged by the company that he keeps!

Posted by mydiatribe at 08:10 PM : Sep 11, 2008
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I suppose Obama probably believed that the days of guilt by association ended with McCarthy.

[heartwords]

I saw a little blue bird sitting in a great oak tree singing a song of freedom. Then came a hunter with his sling shot loaded and ready to fire.

Will he choose to take the life of this sweet bird. Or let the bird live to continue singing the song of freedom.

FREEDOM.. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.. NATIONS ARE WATCHING!!!

CHOOSE WISELY..

WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF-EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS...

Sarah are you & Senator McCain really going to shake up Washington??

Will you do something about the due nothing Washington crowd??

Will you clean up the messes and stand for what is right??

If you really can... WE THE PEOPLE of this Great Country will STAND with you.

We''''''''re ready for a real CHANGE.

Are you & Senator McCain ready to make the changes???

SARAH.. be our voice.. be strong & courageous.

[alanrobisch]

By being this way Bill is being disrespectful to his listeners.


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Posted by SHURCH4TRUTH at 09:08 PM : Sep 11, 2008
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I have a BA i listen to O''reilly and don''t trust him inherently and he has people from all sides on.I also read the NYT editorial page and can assure you I haven''t seen a more biased newspaper in my life. The editorial page is a leftist attack machine against the republicans with as little intelligence as the typical anti-repub attack on this web site. Maybe better written but just as spiteful and nasty spurned on by their dislike for conservatives who believe in God and vote for values not their particular theory of economics or social engineering

[lindaredtail]

Sarah Palin is not what people want to believe that she is. She is anti-choice, doesn''t believe in birth control of any kind, believes in censureship of reading materials, believes homosexuals can be cured through prayer and that the earth is only 4000 years old. She is going to allow her 17 year old daughter to wed (because she is pregnant terrible reason to marry).
She is not truthful, did not originally did not oppose the bridge to nowhere. The funds from oil companies are given out to Alaskans every year and have been for years. Not new to her. In other words she is George Bush and Pat Robertson rolled into one and wearing a dress. A fruitcake, a zealot, a fanatic. Americans need to take a good long look. She is not Hillary Clinton and she is not an agent of change.

[lindaredtail]

Sarah Palin is not what people want to believe that she is. She is anti-choice, doesn''t believe in birth control of any kind, believes in censureship of reading materials, believes homosexuals can be cured through prayer and that the earth is only 4000 years old. She is going to allow her 17 year old daughter to wed (because she is pregnant terrible reason to marry).
She is not truthful, did not originally did not oppose the bridge to nowhere. The funds from oil companies are given out to Alaskans every year and have been for years. Not new to her. In other words she is George Bush and Pat Robertson rolled into one and wearing a dress. A fruitcake, a zealot, a fanatic. Americans need to take a good long look. She is not Hillary Clinton and she is not an agent of change.

[tlucian-2009]

Why isn''t anyone pointing out that if McCain kicks the bucket Palin''s vice president will be Nancy Pelosi. Imagine the cat fights!

[santuario-2009]

I am appalled that CBS would list the books that Palin was supposed to have asked the library to ban, then state some were not even publish, leaving the impression that she did not try to ban books. While this book list may have been false. The REAL question is did Palin try to ban books?

[santuario-2009]

I am appalled that CBS would list the books that Palin was supposed to have asked the library to ban, then state some were not even published, leaving the impression that she did not try to ban books. While this book list may have been false, the REAL question is did Palin try to ban books?

[santuario-2009]

I am appalled that CBS would list the books that Palin was supposed to have asked the library to ban, then state some were not even published, leaving the impression that she did not try to ban books. While this book list may have been false, the REAL question is did Palin try to ban any books from the library?

[santuario-2009]

I am appalled that CBS would list the books that Palin was supposed to have asked the library to ban, then state some were not even published, leaving the impression that she did not try to ban books. While this book list may have been false, the REAL question is did Palin try to ban any books from the library?

[santuario-2009]

I am appalled that CBS would list the books that Palin was supposed to have asked the library to ban, then state some were not even published, leaving the impression that she did not try to ban books. While this book list may have been false, the REAL question is did Palin try to ban any books from the library?

[santuario-2009]

I am appalled that CBS would list the books that Palin was supposed to have asked the library to ban, then state some were not even published, leaving the impression that she did not try to ban books. While this book list may have been false, the REAL question is did Palin try to ban any books from the library?

[santuario-2009]

I am appalled that CBS would list the books that Palin was supposed to have asked the library to ban, then state some were not even published, leaving the impression that she did not try to ban books. While this book list may have been false, the REAL question is did Palin try to ban any books from the library?

[mccurrym4]

"... the REAL question is did Palin try to ban any books from the library?"
No, never.

[mccurrym4]

"Why isn''''t anyone pointing out that if McCain kicks the bucket Palin''''s vice president will be Nancy Pelosi. Imagine the cat fights! "

Pity they don''t teach basic civics in grade school anymore. No, when a VP ascends in succession to become President the country simply remains thru term without a VP. House Speaker remains next in succession to President if President vacates office.

[johncain4]

The BBC is a far left liberal organization. It is not a credible news outlet.

The fact is that Britain is fast becoming a muslim theocracy and that is why the British like muslim leaders.

[gramto8]

Pity they don''''t teach basic civics in grade school anymore. No, when a VP ascends in succession to become President the country simply remains thru term without a VP. House Speaker remains next in succession to President if President vacates office.

Posted by McCurryM4 at 01:12 AM : Sep 12, 2008

WRONG!! The VP that succeeds to presidency chooses a successor to the VP slot who is then put through the approval process just like a supreme court justice. (25th admentment to the Constitution)

[gramto8]

(25th amendment* to the Constitution)

[babooph]

Palin delivered the prepared Bush speech 10x better than he could, but interviewed on her own was 10x worse-[if that is possible?]

[gocubs58]

HUSSEIN plans to GUT the MILITARY if he becomes PRESIDENT,,,

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Please enlighten us as to how he would pull this off? No president, democrat or republican could "gut" the military while other branches of government (house, senate) simply watch. Your post is nothing more than propaganda and character assasination.

[gocubs58]

To the a hole posting all of the LIES about Obama:
Take your Thorazine,and Lithium meds.
Beter sign up for another round of shock treatments while you are at it.....
There is no cure for ignorance,so we can''''t help you with that.......

Posted by real1413

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Real1413, you are absolutely right - Unfortunately these character assasinations against Obama will most likely continue right up to election day. Sad.

[xliberalcomi]

Palin delivered the prepared Bush speech 10x better than he could, but interviewed on her own was 10x worse-[if that is possible?]
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I thought the interview was good. She barely had a few days to prepare, if any. However it took Obama 2 years to prepare for the Oriely Factor. Interesting.

[emmer94]

First: BBC has been leaning towards anti-American for over 25 years (lived there, seen in it in person) which was kind of odd while we supported them in the Falkland Islands war. During DEsert Storm, nothing but footage about war protesters and nothing about all the "support our troop" rallies.
Not only do the Europeans want Obama to be president, so do the "normal" media outlets. You can''t get a McCain or Palin supporter to get the same type of interview that the Obama camp does. Harry what''s his face on the CBS morning show almost has his nose right up the Obama camp''s rear he''s so excited. And then he''s arrogant when he interviews the other side. I want to hear what both sides are saying so I can make an INFORMED choice and the news folks won''t let that happen.

[xliberalcomi]

Investor''s Business Daily is referring to an organization known as Public Allies.

Has Investor''s Business Daily gone of the proverbial deep end?

Perhaps not. Just in case you''ve never heard of Public Allies, know that there are about 250 separate and unique references on Google comparing it to the Hitler Youth Corp.

No, that''s not a sick joke or exaggeration! In many cases, these comparisons are not made lightly, foolishly or flippantly.

Public Allies is an extremely radical leftist organization that seeks to bulldoze free America and replace it with a totalitarian socialist state.

Investor''s Business Daily goes on in the aforementioned editorial %u2014 aptly named "Michelle''s [Obama] Boot Camps For Radicals" %u2014 and states:

"But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about ''social change'' through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation %u2014 the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul ''The Red'' Alinsky."

[xliberalcomi]

HUSSEIN plans to GUT the MILITARY if he becomes PRESIDENT,,,

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Please enlighten us as to how he would pull this off? No president, democrat or republican could "gut" the military while other branches of government (house, senate) simply watch. Your post is nothing more than propaganda and character assasination.
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Regardless, Obama is on the record saying this. It was on Youtube. And it played on Fox last night. No soundbite a complete video. Obama will destroy our Military and our defense.

[emmer94]

"But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about ''''social change'''' through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation %u2014 the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul ''''The Red'''' Alinsky." Posted by xliberalcomi

Is that the type of "community organizing" that Obama was talking about?

[emmer94]

HUSSEIN plans to GUT the MILITARY if he becomes PRESIDENT,,,

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Please enlighten us as to how he would pull this off?

Let''s see... BRAC is doing a good job of it now. Clinton did a good job by sitting back and not anything to help. CBS did a surprising piece (surprising because it showed Bill in a bad light) of the bomb storage areas at one AF base that flooded every time it rained, doors meant to secure weapons falling off their hinges. You don''t have to actually do something to strip our military...you can absolutely nothing and be so much more effective. Look at the state of our aging aircraft. And then Congress hands a tanker contract to the FRENCH. We''re giving away our economy to other countries, some of which we (as the public) don''t even like.

[emmer94]

HUSSEIN plans to GUT the MILITARY if he becomes PRESIDENT,,,

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Please enlighten us as to how he would pull this off?

Let''s see... BRAC is doing a good job of it now. Clinton did a good job by sitting back and not anything to help. CBS did a surprising piece (surprising because it showed Bill in a bad light) of the bomb storage areas at one AF base that flooded every time it rained, doors meant to secure weapons falling off their hinges. You don''t have to actually do something to strip our military...you can absolutely nothing and be so much more effective. Look at the state of our aging aircraft. And then Congress hands a tanker contract to the FRENCH. We''re giving away our economy to other countries, some of which we (as the public) don''t even like.

[emmer94]

HUSSEIN plans to GUT the MILITARY if he becomes PRESIDENT,,,

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Please enlighten us as to how he would pull this off?

Let''s see... BRAC is doing a good job of it now. Clinton did a good job by sitting back and not anything to help. CBS did a surprising piece (surprising because it showed Bill in a bad light) of the bomb storage areas at one AF base that flooded every time it rained, doors meant to secure weapons falling off their hinges. You don''t have to actually do something to strip our military...you can absolutely nothing and be so much more effective. Look at the state of our aging aircraft. And then Congress hands a tanker contract to the FRENCH. We''re giving away our economy to other countries, some of which we (as the public) don''t even like.

[kwvaughn1]

Emmer94, who has been president for the last 8 years? If you have a complaint with how the millitary is being run, then it falls at the feet of the current president. If you''ll remember, Bill set up the military that easily defeated Afghanastan and Iraq. He did a good job of building our military.

Bush has had 8 years to fix things like the door that leaks at the bomb storage area. It''s not Clinton''s fault he didn''t fix it.

[johngress]

HUSSEIN plans to GUT the MILITARY if he becomes PRESIDENT,,,

Posted by trrrorislamj at 12:40 AM : Sep 12, 2008

The military already been gutted by starting the Iraq war. Bush and Cheney, supported by McCain, sold this war that was based on neocon lies, cherry picked intelligence and a flawed strategy. In the mean time, Military equipment has been worn out, blown up and destroyed, while all of this is being financed by dept to China. Thousands of American soldiers have been killed and maimed, and the biggest deterrent to Islamic terrorism based in Iran has been removed. The kicker of this whole Iraq war is the real terrorists that caused 9/11 are gaining ground in Afghanistan, where the current White House brain trust has dropped the ball.
So opening your eyes, moron, you and your fear mongering Neocon cronies have already accomplished the nonsence you are spewing about Obama.
AND, the only thing scarier than McCain becoming President is the thought of a religious extremist and foreign policy dunce like Palin having the launch code for a minuteman missile.

[kwvaughn1]

"But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about ''''''''social change'''''''' through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation %u2014 the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul ''''''''The Red'''''''' Alinsky." Posted by xliberalcomi

Is that the type of "community organizing" that Obama was talking about?
Is that the type of "community organizing" that Obama was talking about?

Posted by Emmer94 at 08:31 AM : Sep 12, 2008"

No. Is it the type of community organizing Palin and McCain plan?

[mamabear923]

The press is responsible for most biased facts. Like the story on DS.

The only preparing Palin did was to memorize what McCain told her to say. She is an embarassment to womankind...no actually, women that think we are electing a Vice Minister are even more naive.

News flash...we are not electing a minister. She already is talking war...hardly Christian directive. She dished out judgement against Obama and wants religious counseling for attacks against her....just fact finding.

Real hockey moms dont wear lipstick.

[kwvaughn1]

"HUSSEIN plans to GUT the MILITARY if he becomes PRESIDENT,,,

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Please enlighten us as to how he would pull this off? No president, democrat or republican could "gut" the military while other branches of government (house, senate) simply watch. Your post is nothing more than propaganda and character assasination.

Regardless, Obama is on the record saying this. It was on Youtube. And it played on Fox last night. No soundbite a complete video. Obama will destroy our Military and our defense.
Posted by xliberalcomi at 08:28 AM : Sep 12, 2008"

Wow! if Fox News had a story about it, it must be true. Perhaps you could provide a link to this Youtube quote so we could see if the remark is real and in context. Sorry to ask for so much. It''s just that people have a habbit of saying whatever they want if they don''t have to back it up.

[kwvaughn1]

"Not only do the Europeans want Obama to be president, so do the "normal" media outlets. You can''''t get a McCain or Palin supporter to get the same type of interview that the Obama camp does. Harry what''''s his face on the CBS morning show almost has his nose right up the Obama camp''''s rear he''''s so excited. And then he''''s arrogant when he interviews the other side. I want to hear what both sides are saying so I can make an INFORMED choice and the news folks won''''t let that happen.

Posted by Emmer94 at 08:13 AM : Sep 12, 2008"

Emmer94, do you really expect anyone to believe McCain and Palin are not getting the interviews and media they want? The media would love to do more interviews with them, but McCain and Palin both know that the more the public knows about them, the less the public will like them. They are just not giving that many interviews. And if you''re not seeing them being covered, then you need to pay more attention.

And yes Europeans do like Obama better. That''s mostly because Bush was a complete prick to them. I can''t believe I even have to say this, but having allies is a good thing. It''s good to get along with our allies. It doesn''t show weakness, it shows intelligence.

[ronbearoh]

I am amazed at the untruthfulness of the uneducated that post in these coversations. Is rush educating the children of America? God forbid.

[lpgideon]

Kwvaughn, I guess is trying to ignore history. Both Carter and Clinton were able to cut back on the military by closing bases and could even cut back on the number of members, almost, probably not entirely doing away the the military. But, not sure how any president today could cut back anymore on any since most of the active duty personnel are now the Reservists and national Guardsmen/women.

[lpgideon]

gmanj: You have been somewhat mislead. The President does not have the launch code for the MM missile. That is in the control room at the silo locations.

[kwvaughn1]

"History will be made with a woman in the White House and not an African muslim man who is strongly antisemitic.
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Posted by johncain4 at 02:41 AM : Sep 12, 2008


johncain4, i think there''s been some confusion. obama is an american christian who is not antisemitic. (after all he did work for 3 years out of college setting up charity organizations for christian churches.) facts can be so inconvenient some times. hope this helps.

[kwvaughn1]

"Kwvaughn, I guess is trying to ignore history. Both Carter and Clinton were able to cut back on the military by closing bases and could even cut back on the number of members, almost, probably not entirely doing away the the military. But, not sure how any president today could cut back anymore on any since most of the active duty personnel are now the Reservists and national Guardsmen/women.

Posted by lpgideon at 09:17 AM : Sep 12, 2008"

lpgideon, i''m just saying Bush has been in office for 8 years. if someone has a problem with what''s going on with the military, it''s not really fair to skip an assessment of the last 8 years and jump back to blame Clinton. Republicans in power = Republican responsibility for problems. Don''t pass the buck.

by the way... i think we shoud increase the military, but be wiser about how we use it.

[mabourn]

Ah yes... Intelligent debate. :-)

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The Republican Party needs an *** now! Get rid of those s____s in the White House and the 2 senile an idiotic Republican Candidates at the top of the GOP ticket! I''''ll get em on a ticket, a plane ticket back tp Al *** ka And PHONEY ix! Will be so glad when these idiots are gone!!!!!!!

[suzyku]

McCain has proven by choosing Mrs. Palin that he cares more about getting "himself" elected, at all costs, than he does about this country. In my book that''s UNpatriotic! He has run an even nastier campaign than bush ran against him in 2000, this of course is after he said he "wouldn''t" do that! He has repeatedly lied, as has Palin, he doesn''t have any "real" plans for any issues that affect Americans, the same old "bush" policies will do just fine for him! He could easily, at his advanced age, die while in office and yet he chooses someone like her, who knows ZERO, to be left in charge of this country he professes to love! He is a hypocrite and IF the American people once again fall for the dirty politics of the Republican right wing, they will be inflicting disaster on all of us!

[lalabradle]

Once again I point out that other countries favoring Obama is definitely going to have an impact on this election. We are a very diverse nation, we have people from all over the world. Believe me their countries don''t have to worry about their votes, they are going to support their countries'' choices. So Obama will be elected the next president of the United States. Even white Americans don''t outnumber all of the minorities together. The world wants to see a more rational American government.

[polpot4]

all of you bloging losers as soooo panicked that it tickles me, really.

It really tickles the rest of this great country....and we could care less about the rest of the world.

[polpot4]

to kwvaughn

Your correct !! Osama is a Christian

he went to a Christian chruch with a racist pastor (Wright) who assailed, well, everyone !! jews, whites, italians...
He also married Osama and "baptised" his vile offspring.

Of course, this was after Osama had a life long relationship with a jailed criminal (rezko) whom Osama steered our tax dollars to.
And after Osama''s lifelong relationship with an unrepentant, convited terrorist (Ayres) who tried to blow up the pentagon and capital..

But you are correct, Osama is a Christian grin

[polpot4]

To Santuro

The whole book banning tactic your people tried to pull has already been proven false. A LIE !!
You need to keep up if you are going to have an opinion