Venezuela To Host Russian Warships

Moscow To Send Naval Ships, Planes To Venezuela; Chavez: "Go Ahead And Squeal, Yankees"

(CBS/AP)  Russia said Monday it will send a naval squadron and long-range patrol planes to the Caribbean for joint military exercises with Venezuela — a deployment in the Western Hemisphere unseen since the Cold War.

The apparently retaliatory move made at the time of heightened tensions in relations with the United States follows the U.S. deployment of warships to deliver aid to the former Soviet nation of Georgia, barely a month after Russian armor and aircraft crushed the Georgian military in a five-day war.

Russia's Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko insisted Monday that Russia's decision to send the squadron and planes to Venezuela was made before Russia's war with Georgia.

"This deployment had been planned in advance, and it's unrelated to the current political situation and the developments in the Caucasus," Nesterenko said at a briefing.

But the announcement was made just a week after Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned that Russia would mount an unspecified response to recent U.S. aid shipments to Georgia.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, an unbridled critic of American foreign policy, was specific and blunt Sunday night about the possibility the U.S. might be concerned about the exercises.

"Go ahead and squeal, Yankees," Chavez said in a national broadcast in which he announced the exercises.

The United States mocked the announcement as State Department spokesman Sean McCormack poked fun at Russia's navy. He said that if Russia really intends to send ships to the Caribbean, "then they found a few ships that can make it that far."

Asked about Russia and Venezuela's plans for a joint military exercise, Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said Monday that the Pentagon is not concerned. He said the U.S. military conducts exercises with other countries around the globe all the time and so do many other nations.

Nesterenko said the Peter the Great missile cruiser and three other Russian navy ships would visit Venezuela before the year's end, and would be joined by a unit of long-range anti-submarine patrol aircraft.

He did not say how many planes would be sent, but said they would be "temporarily based at one of Venezuela's air bases."

Nesterenko did not name the type of planes that would be deployed to Venezuela. Russia has two such planes: the Tu-142, which is an anti-submarine version of the Tu-95 Bear strategic bomber, and the smaller Il-38.

Russian Navy spokesman Igor Dygalo said in a statement Monday that the Russian squadron will sail to Venezuela in November. He said that Russian and Venezuelan ships will practice joint action in performing such tasks as search and rescue at sea. He said the agreement to hold the maneuvers was reached when Chavez visited Moscow in July.

Chavez said the Russian vessels would call on Venezuelan ports in late November or December.

The Venezuelan leader, who has cultivated close ties with Moscow and placed big orders for Russian jets, helicopters and other weapons, has repeatedly warned that the U.S. Navy poses a threat to Venezuela.

Diplomatic relations between Caracas and Washington have been tense for years. U.S. officials have said Chavez poses a threat to democracy, and Chavez has emerged as Latin America's most outspoken critic of U.S. foreign policy.

Nesterenko said the joint exercise would not be directed against any third country.

But Andrei Piontkowsky, an independent Moscow-based political analyst, said the planned Russian deployment to the Caribbean reflected the Kremlin's increasing readiness to challenge the United States.

"The Kremlin likes to flex muscles and posture like a superpower," he said.

Sergei Markov, a pro-Kremlin lawmaker, sought to downplay the deployment to Venezuela, saying that it would likely be an one-time action rather than the beginning of a regular military presence. "I don't think that Russia will systematically use it," he said.

"We need bases on the territory of Iran and Syria where our strategic interests lie," Markov added without elaboration.

Russian officials have talked in the past about re-establishing a permanent presence in the Mediterranean using a Soviet-era base in Syria. They haven't talked about any possible bases in Iran.

Russian officials said past U.S. military assistance for Georgia had encouraged the Caucasus country to launch its offensive in South Ossetia, and argued that the new shipments could be a cover for weapons deliveries.

U.S. officials have dismissed those accusations, saying the ships are carrying only humanitarian supplies such as blankets and powdered milk.

Putin last week warned that Russia would respond to the U.S. aid shipments to Georgia, but he did not say how.

"We don't understand what American ships are doing on the Georgian shores, but this is a question of taste, it's a decision by our American colleagues," Putin said. "The second question is why the humanitarian aid is being delivered on naval vessels armed with the newest rocket systems."

Russia's reaction to the U.S. deployment to the Black Sea "will be calm, without any sort of hysteria. But of course, there will be an answer," Putin said.

Despite the presence of Russian troops on Georgian soil, President Mikhail Saakashvili said Sunday the West would help his country regain control of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the separatist regions of Georgia recognized as independent nations by Moscow last month.

"Our territorial integrity will be restored, I am more convinced of this than ever," Saakashvili said in a televised appearance. "This will not be an easy process, but now this is a process between an irate Russia and the rest of the world."

"Our goal is the return of our territory and the peaceful unification of Georgia," he said.

[metsobitso]

The last Georgian peacekeepers that were working along side their Russian partners, stabed the Russians in the back and murdered them in cold blood. The Russians should not trust any of them.

[samsel3]

Venezuela, has struck oil and natural gas deals with Iran & Malaysia , as well as China and Russia .

China & Russia. will aid and protect Venezueala if needed .
It''s all about BIG OIL. The administration wants regime change in Iran & Venezuela. Conoco-Phillips, Exxon Mobil & Chevron would not accept new conditions for their oil leases. They wanted significant control in new areas of the gulf of Venezuela, but the Venezuelan''s are looking after their own interests and offered a diminished role in developing oil reserves or nothing. As a result all three companies were terminated. The owners of these companies are Richard Cheney''s friends and now look for the administrations strong arm tactics.

In 2006 & 2007 Iran & Venezuela vested oil deals and partnered to develop tracts in Venezuelas Orinoco Reserve. One tract Iran will help develop contains approximately 30 billion barrels of oil.
Venezuela''s total oil reserves are estimated at 265 billion barrels which could top the Saudi s Reserves.

[whitemale08]

Why do you think Darth Cheney wasn''t at the conventions? To spend time with his family?

Give me a break.

We are so duped by Republicans every time who are so blood thirsty and are such warmongers that they will create any crisis to start war.

This time they want to start WWIII and you stupid stupid Republicans think that Darth Cheney is going around spreading "democracy".

He''s a British stooge pigeon, an agent of the oligarchs on Wall Street and the City of London and everytime they send this clown out, it''s to get us mired into some new conflict.

they tried with Bill Clinton, but he only did Kosovo, when he refused to do anything else like start asymetric warfare in Africa and Pakistan, then it was time to trump up charges on bl**-jo**.

Our government is controled by so-called allies who criminal, evil and corrupt. They stand by every single problem we face today.

[republic1776]

Look at all of the liberal left in America that thinks Mr. Chavez is a humanitarian.
He''s a hard line Communistist.

[missingamerica]

Times like this, I really wish Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, & PNAC, LLP (v1) had not tried so hard to make it appear that tax cuts for the rich and the corporations were such a marvelous idea very easily supported by cuts in Federal expenditures.

''Cuz of that particular flim-flam, they closed and consolidated an awful lot of our military bases, creating (from an enemy''s perspective) a lot fewer but far juicier and more easily managed targets.

[causeway_q]

Good going Chimpy McCodpiece......

[johnpatrick9]

"THEY''RE BACK!"
Under bush this has been brought upon us as we are now strategically weak due the past 8 foolish years of a dumb *** ill run and ill conceived war.
One other thing: Chavez does deliver inexpensive heating oil to 8 to 13 states for their low income American citizens....BUSH THE FASCIST DOES NOT!

[republic1776]

johnpatrick9,
That''s called Conmmunism.
It''s up to private relief organiztions to help, NOT our Government and my tax dollars.

[misands]

It''''s obviously meant to antagonize. Bomb Hugos house and tell the Russians to keep there military exercises out of this continent. - Posted by sillywilly4
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That''s a wonderful idea you proud, hot-blood, redneck American! Is Jesus going to save you from the nuclear bombs?
Just let some of us move to New Zealand first in hopes of avoiding the worst of the radiation you''ll get when you''ve finally provoked WWIII.

[johnpatrick9]

johnpatrick9,
That''''s called Conmmunism.
It''''s up to private relief organiztions to help, NOT our Government and my tax dollars.

Posted by republic1776 at 12:28 PM : Sep 08, 2008

republic1776,....we should be caring for our American citizens and not wasting our blood and wealth in absurd wars that make the capitalist rich at the expense of the CITIZENS.

[horse3farm]

Did you all miss the CNN Money article? After Gustav hit, Bush released 250,000 barrels of oil from the Strategic Oil Reserve to Venezuela.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/03/news/international/citgo_reserve.ap/index.htm

Check it out. Hello? There are people in this country, Bushit, but I guess you don''t care.

[johnpatrick9]

One tires of fat cat Americans writing off their fellow citizens and ******** about their sacred money as they do not wish to help those "lesser'' than them..and yet they probably go to church and praise Jesus....what hypocrites we have in America...selfish and egotistical and one more reason why we are going down the toilet:"I''ve got mine and screw you."

[kwiz69]

This all is due to the republicans in the capitol, more bushshit. Imagine how it wiill end up if the republicans get in again... "WE''RE ALL ******" other than the rich *** profiting off all of this.

There was a movie a number of years ago called Red Dawn. Russia, China and Mexico raided the US and took over. Reminds me of what has happened with the Bush administrations in power.

[drputt45]

Hey, let''s all get together and talk about this. Why can''t we all just get along? Or, show some backbone and stand up to these bullies.

[whitemale08]

Likely with only a small contingent of Cub Scouts.


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Posted by darkmeat4 at 12:50 PM : Sep 08, 2008--

If you think we can take out Russia like Noriega in Pananma then you need to pack your bags get the hell out of this country. Mankind cannot afford the stupid low life like you.

There is no way according to your own beloved Ronald Reagan to survive a thermo-nuclear war with Russia. He called it ''MAD'' and it''s suicide to belive that we can do whatever the hell we want in the world when you have Russia and China and now sympathizing countries around the world who are willing to cooperat with Russia.

Stop posting stupid remarks, you like a fool!

[kwiz69]

Its a wonder that the CIA or NSC hasn''t broken my door or any one elses door down because we sound off about our Busshit president and his flunkies.

He cheated last time he was elected. Whats to say it won''t happen again?? The rich republicans have ruined the US and our foreign relations.

Mind you I love my country, fought for it in Viet-Nam and still have to fight the veterans admin for what i deserve but can''t get because the republicans control that organization also.

[samsel3]

Venezuela, has struck oil and natural gas deals with Iran & Malaysia , as well as China and Russia .

China & Russia. will aid and protect Venezueala if needed .
It''''s all about BIG OIL. The administration wants regime change in Iran & Venezuela. Conoco-Phillips, Exxon Mobil & Chevron would not accept new conditions for their oil leases. They wanted significant control in new areas of the gulf of Venezuela, but the Venezuelan''''s are looking after their own interests and offered a diminished role in developing oil reserves or nothing. As a result all three companies were terminated. The owners of these companies are Richard Cheney''''s friends and now look for the administrations strong arm tactics.

In 2006 & 2007 Iran & Venezuela vested oil deals and partnered to develop tracts in Venezuelas Orinoco Reserve. One tract Iran will help develop contains approximately 30 billion barrels of oil.
Venezuela s total oil reserves are estimated at 265 billion barrels which could top the Saudi s Reserves.

[mcapek]

And when the junky Russian (fill-in the blank -- warship, submarine, airplane) sinks/crashes on the way to Venezuela, don''t expect any rescue operations from the US Navy. Russians will be eating their leather shoes again... we have seen this before, and this time they will be far, far from home.

[samsel3]

Moscow -- Armed forces will be used if necessary, including preventively and with the use of nuclear weapons, for protection of Russia and its allies, the Russian Armed Forces Chief of the General Staff Yuri Baluyevsky said on Saturday.

"We do not intend to attack anybody. But all our partners must realize that for protection of Russia and its allies if necessary armed forces will be used, including preventively, including with the use of nuclear weapons," Baluyevsky was quoted by the Itar-Tass news agency as saying.

Baluyevsky reportedly made the statement at a scientific conference of the Academy of Military Sciences January 19, 2008.

[downsteamjim]

I feel sorry for Venezuela''s neighbors. All these arms are not to fix the country''s roads. But since this is being done in the name of socialism and communism, it is okay with the left.

[guadalcanal3]

mcapek...Do not underestimate the quality of the Russian military...They have money now..and...they are closing the gap...also when our Space Shuttles break down...Russia keeps flying...We need Russia on our side...we need to work together with them...and...in my opinion we need to invite them to be a NATO member and erase all distrust...Unfortunately I find American foreign policy to be severely shortsighted.

[closethippy1]

"Go ahead and squeal, yankees."
Holy macarena! Does Chavez have balls, or what?!
This man is the Hizbollah of South America ready to take on the military giant of the block.
Jr and his friends are going to have to swallow this one because there''s really nothing they can do.
So, Monkey Boy, how does it feel to see them Russian ships and anti-missile system from your window?

[screan_name]

darkmeat4


How many missiles is the "missile defense shield" capable of taking out exactly?

[nothappyatall]

"Venezuela To Host Russian Warships
Moscow To Send Naval Ships, Planes To Venezuela; Chavez: "Go Ahead And Squeal, Yankees"

Yep, I predicted this, you can thank the bush cartel for this new wave of anti American sentiment. After the bush cartel threatened at atacked Chavez and now Russia- drawing lines in the sand, now these countries and others who are sick and tired of our arrogance, threats, invasions on false pretexts and so on, are no longer going to sit back and take it.
The world knows we are weak now- our economy is tanking, our military is wasted and exhausted, our equipment is salvage yard fodder after 6 years of abuse in the desert, and we are ten TRILLION dollars in debt, most to China

[johnpatrick9]

darkmeat you are an idiot and if you love george-the -worthless-bush so much how come your not over in Iraq on Afghanistan ???Go take a bullet for your loser leader and then tell us how happy you to have lost your arm, or eye, or leg for two draftdodging cowards:Cheney and bush. Your a typical republican blowhard and we''ll drive your sort of scum back under the rocks you crawled out from under in 2008.

[nothappyatall]

"Are you really dumb enough to think Russia will shoot nukes at us? Do you really think China can?"

Only takes ONE mistake and one act of aggression.

"Our missile shield works."

Not when 100 missiles all come in at once, even if it misses 10% we are finished, only ONE has to hit NYC, Chicago or some major city- ony one and the ripple effect and panic alone will be devastating.
A hit in NYC would wipe out the stock exchange too.

"It takes China nearly 3 days to get their missiles ready to launch and they are single war-head. They do not possess global strike capability neither does Russia."

They may like you to THINK that, consider why that would be and there''s your answer.

"Do you really think any country is dumb enough to get into that sort of war with us?
darkmeat4

Yes, because history has proven it happens, the world knows we are in deep chit, econ tanking, mort/credit, debt and a military underfunded and exhausted, equipment trashed for 6 years in desert sand and heat.

[whitemale08]

You 19 year old community college drop-outs need to stop blogging/regurgitating pseudo intellectual socialist brochures you picked up at the natural food store and inject more reality and less heroine.


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Posted by darkmeat4 at 01:29 PM : Sep 08, 2008--

You don''t know what the hell you are talking about! I saw video footage of Russian soldiers writing the names of major U.S. cities on ICBMs or Inter-Continental Ballistic Missils tipped with thermo-nuclear warhead which are 10 x more powerfull then what we dropped on Hiroshima and could overwhelm any so-called missil defense shield.

Like I said Reagan called it MAD and the rest of the world knows that that was probably the only thing Reagan was right about.

And Russia would strike us with thermo-nuclear war if they felt backed into a corner, any country would.

ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE FOR RUSSIA AND CHINA!!!!!

WE ARE NOT THE ONLY WORLD''S SUPERPOWER ANYMORE!!!!

OUR ECONOMY IS BROKEN, OUR CONVENTIONAL MILITARY IS BOGGED DOWN IN IRAQ AND WE DIDN''T WIN IN AFGANISTAN; WE''RE ACTUALLY GETTING OUR BUTTS KICKED JUST LIKE THE SOVIET UNION EVEN WITH N.A.T.O. HELP!!!!

[ioweign]

ANCHORAGE, Alaska, Sept. 5, 2008

Alaskans Cash In On Annual Dividend

State Residents To Get Record $3,269 In Oil Royalties And Payouts To Offset Fuel Prices

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Doesn''t Venezuela do this too?

[nothappyatall]

Also, a nuke exchange wouldnt have to be the only scenario, biological is another- easily spread thru a few airports and once planes are infected those passengers disembark and get on other planes and go to other cities.
Influenza and other diseases do it all the time naturally with no help, ONE passenger can infect the whole plane of passengers who in turn infect others they come in contact with.

[nothappyatall]

How many missiles is the "missile defense shield" capable of taking out exactly?

Posted by Screan_name

Probably about 1 or 2 at a time, like a racquet ball game your opponent can hit one or two balls at a time back, but have 10 players hitting balls at him at the same time and at best he might hit 2 or 3, the other 7 or 8 will goal. With nuke bombs, only ONE has to hit a major city like NYC 9 million dead, Chicago, Miami, Wash DC, Portland, Las Vegas, San Diego, LA

[heuristic1]

Well, here we go again. A new cod war is in the making, with all its sabre rattling and %u201Cspheres of influence.%u201D Personally, I blame America with its deliberately provocative missile defense system and a pattern of behavior meant to cow and humiliate Russia. You can thank Bush and Chaney for this. It will be a dirty and dangerous legacy of their misrule for years to come.

[marshall65]

"I assure you, the U.S. military is eager to correct their assumptions." Not the Army-and frankly, you know nothing about the military as evidenced by your goofy comment.

[skyhawk761]

LOL, assumption makes an *** out of you and umption.

I have. Thats why I speak from knowledge, and you simply speak from what Jon Stewart tells you.


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Posted by darkmeat4 at 02:01 PM : Sep 08, 2008
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Gosh, just twenty something years ago both the U.S. and Russia had enough nukes between us to blow the world up some 40 times over. So you are saying that the nukes Russia had have just disappeared? How will the missile defense system work on the nukes that have disappeared from the former USSR and are now on U.S. soil in the hands of terrorist? Not to well I imagine. Sometimes it''s better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are ignorant than to open it and prove them correct!

[marshall65]

"Our missile shield works." According to the project managers at Raytheon, the missile shield is like trying to shoot down a bullet coming in at 20,000 ft, with another bullet. Luck of the draw supported by some advanced technology, but it will fail more often than it works. So if you think we in the U.S. are comfy safe, start believing that if some moron pushes the nuke button, the earth will fry.

[jmurrieta11]

In other news, a lot of Russian sailors will be spending a sunny vacation in Cuba!

[bobnjersey]

[Our deficit? We have as much debt as we want, and can kill it IF we want, your understanding of economics is pedestrian.]
[Posted by darkmeat4 at 01:40 PM : Sep 08, 2008]

so you''re saying that the deficits are intentional ... and easily removed when we choose to eliminate them? who has made these decisions to allow the deficit to balloon to the current levels? who is going to be in the position to eliminate (ie. kill) these when we ''want'' to?

[whitemale08]

If imagining the U.S. is a kitten makes you feel good then by all means continue. I hope the rest of the world feels the same. I assure you, the U.S. military is eager to correct their assumptions.


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Posted by darkmeat4 at 02:06 PM : Sep 08, 2008--

I don''t know where you see the word "kitten" in my post. I just quoted your own beloved Ronald Reagan.

Please, if you believe suicide bombing works then maybe Homeland Security needs to trace your IP address and scoop you up for terrorism because trust me your "suicidal thoughts" of a thermo-nuclear war with Russia is a grave and immediate threat the national security of the United States of America.

[oldone60]

The world is preparing itself for the collapse of the United States.

Posted by Nancy_Naive at 12:33 PM : Sep 08, 2008
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And like a typical leftist you''d be loving it, right Nancy?

Sorry to burst your bubble kid - ain''t happenin''.

Periodically our national enemies predict U.S. decline and demise. After Sputnik, post Vietnam, the Carter malaise years. We have been challenged many times - the top dog always is. The institutions and people of this country are strong, flexible and inventive and will meet those challenges, now and in the future.

[clooney_fan]

Periodically our national enemies predict U.S. decline and demise. After Sputnik, post Vietnam, the Carter malaise years. We have been challenged many times - the top dog always is. The institutions and people of this country are strong, flexible and inventive and will meet those challenges, now and in the future.

Posted by oldone60 at 02:32 PM : Sep 08, 2008

half of us will anyway.....not sure what the obese rightys will be doing.

[checkthepast]

here we go again. A new cod war is in the making
Posted by heuristic1

Then hopefully we have the biggest cods!!!

[tbweb]

The U.S. and Russia are acting like 2 Chess Players walking up to an empty Chess Board and beginning to set up their Chess Pieces prior to a game! Both opponents know each other well, one opponent has even claimed he looked inside the others soul. Russia looks set to play a tactical game while the U.S. looks set to play a positional game.

[beehive21-2009]

Everybody Please, this an attempt by Big Oil and the countries involved to keep the price of oil ,inflated,because they are the winners ,lets hope they don''t make a mistake and push a wrong button and terminate,Hugo,or maybe that would be a good deed.Do not worry,the Cuban Missile Crisis was even better, so sit back and enjoy the show,even plan to participate,if you like.Remember the people of Russian ,once killed all the Czars Family ,because that were mad,and didn''t what to take it, anymore,that scenario may relapse,in other countries today,or the near future ,why because Big Oil is greedy, and dangerous too the planet, Earth.Lets Rock and Roll,people of all nations,yell out your mad and will not take it anymore.

[rosieod4prez]

This is precisely why we need to become energy independent!


We are currently sending 700 billion a year to the likes of Hugo. I say cut the dictator wanna-be off by drilling now, and developing our renewable sources.

Then we can watch this T*U*R*D swirl down the drain. Flush twice, it''s a long way to hell.


DRILL NOW!!!!

[whitemale08]

Periodically our national enemies predict U.S. decline and demise. After Sputnik, post Vietnam, the Carter malaise years. We have been challenged many times - the top dog always is. The institutions and people of this country are strong, flexible and inventive and will meet those challenges, now and in the future.


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Posted by oldone60 at 02:32 PM : Sep 08, 2008--

the problem with your stupid post is, is that you and the Republicans fail to connect the dots between Nixon taking us off gold, between defecit spending and hyper-inflation, the illegal Federal Reserve System.

Trust me this is not a typical "recession/depression" business cycle, our whole financial system based on "credit swaps and derivatives" is gone. We no longer have a new "credit bubble" to fund this economy anymore.

Therefore WWIII is the only option to start it back over like the "PLANNERS" did in 1914 by WAR and reducing the world''s population.

[oldone60]

half of us will anyway.....not sure what the obese rightys will be doing.
Posted by clooney_fan at 02:33 PM : Sep 08, 2008
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Doing what we usually do - protecting the cowering leftists.

[whitemale08]

DRILL NOW!!!!


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Posted by RosieOD4Prez at 02:41 PM : Sep 08, 2008--

DRILL WILL NOT CURE THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM OF HYPER-INFLATION!!!!!!1

TELL THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND HANK THE SNAKE PAULSON TO STOP THE BAILOUTS AND STOP PRINTING WORTHLESS FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES!!!!!

[oldone60]

[T]he problem with your stupid post is...
Posted by whitemale08 at 02:43 PM : Sep 08, 2008
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Nice - I love the tolerance and rationale, respectful argument.
Your "solution" to a relatively minor economic fluctuation is rather chilling, though.

[misands]

WANT TO SEE WHAT A BUNCH OF SONS OF CUCUMBER PICKERS AND VODKA DUNKARDS CAN REALLY DO WITH REGARD TO WAR GAMES.
-Posted by witchsince91
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You''ll know it when you see it...it will be in the shape of a giant mushroom cloud!

[louiville2]

by Aesop
translated by G.F. Townsend


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The As-s in the Lion''s Skin

An as-s, having put on the Lion''s skin, roamed about in the forest and amused himself by frightening all the foolish animals he met in his wanderings. At last coming upon a Fox, he tried to frighten him also, but the Fox no sooner heard the sound of his voice than he exclaimed, "I might possibly have been frightened myself, if I had not heard your bray."

Clothes may disguise a fool, but his words will give him away."
Dem''s = hand wringers

[mikehuntertz]

Dear friend USA, stop already with the missle shield beside Russia and I bet they won''t be practicing war games next door to you.