NORFOLK, Sept. 8, 2008

Palin Pick Energizes GOP Base

Washington Post: Activists Say Socially Conservative Voters More Likely To Turn Out, Campaign Actively For Ticket

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Bill and Sandra Goode were so worried that John McCain might pick a running mate who favored abortion rights that Bill called McCain's presidential campaign headquarters to warn against it. They prayed. And when the Republican senator picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, whom they had barely heard of but knew to be staunchly antiabortion, Sandra Goode said, "we knew our prayers had been answered."

The Goodes would have voted for McCain no matter what, but Palin lifted them to a new level of motivation. They called the volunteer McCain representative in their town of Surry, Va., offering any help they could.

"She's a real catalyst," said Bill Goode, 63, an electrician. "Sarah is the epitome of pro-life. You can tell how effective she is by the reaction she got. If she was someone who wasn't viewed as a threat to the abortionists, there wouldn't have been a response equivalent to this."

Palin's debut has invigorated the Republican base here in the Hampton Roads region of Virginia, a battleground area in a top swing state, and one where GOP turnout depends heavily on evangelical Christians such as the Goodes, along with the many military families clustered around the Norfolk and Portsmouth bases.

The reaction has been remarkably instantaneous, with socially conservative voters who had barely heard of Palin electrified by the few facts they quickly learned: her longtime membership in the Assemblies of God, the largest Pentecostal denomination; her large family; her opposition to abortion even in cases of rape and incest; her decision to carry to term her fifth child after learning he has Down syndrome; and her belief in teaching creationism alongside evolution in public schools.

But the question facing Republicans here is whether their organization can match, and fully capitalize on, the enthusiasm provided by Palin with just two months left until Election Day. As Obama targets Virginia and its 13 electoral votes -- President Bush won the state with 54 percent of the vote in 2004 -- he has built a formidable organization, with 41 offices to McCain's nine, dozens more paid staff members, and far more time spent manning phone banks and going door to door.

GOP activists report with relief that socially conservative voters who might have stayed home on Election Day say they will turn out now, while others say they will campaign more actively for the ticket. Among those coming out of the woodwork, activists say, are some who have not been active before, such as parents of special-needs children who feel a bond with Palin. The reaction was slower for less-religious Republicans, including ones with military backgrounds who wondered about Palin's qualifications, but after her tough convention speech, many of them are also energized.

"Hearing her pro-life stance, her conservative values, her family orientation -- it has really resonated with the proletariat and caused people to say: 'Hey, I'm going to get involved here. This is someone I can relate with; this is someone that can win,'" said David Willis, an electrical engineer and GOP activist in Smithfield. "I don't want to imply the party's been limping this whole time, but with Sarah, McCain really emboldened it."

Interviews with Republican activists in the Hampton Roads area confirmed that the party is lagging in the organizational department, though most expressed confidence that, with the spark of Palin's debut, they have time to catch up. The deficit lies partly in the parties' differing approaches: Republicans generally invest less in get-out-the-vote efforts than Democrats, because they say they know who their base voters are and they know that those voters need less encouragement.

But this year the contrast is particularly sharp. Unlike Bush's 2004 campaign, which focused heavily on turnout operations, McCain has devoted most of his resources to ads, while Obama has emphasized organization as perhaps no Democrat before him.

Obama has made big gains in registering new Virginia voters, with 49,000 additions in August, 36 percent more than signed up in July. The campaign says it held 1,000 house parties in Virginia to watch Obama's convention speech, with many of the 13,000 attending also canvassing over the Labor Day weekend.

Because Virginia has been so reliably Republican in presidential elections for decades, Republicans here -- unlike in perennial swing states such as Ohio -- are unaccustomed to having to exert all that much effort. And until Palin burst on the scene, Republicans here said there just was not a lot of the energy needed to fuel a grass-roots operation, because of Bush's decline in popularity, lingering ambivalence about McCain and demoralization from recent GOP losses in the state.

"Everything was pretty lackluster," said Earl Hall, the volunteer representative for Surry, who is far more excited now that Palin's in the picture: "She's right good-looking -- that's all I need to know."

In Isle of Wight County, a GOP stronghold just west of Portsmouth and home to the ham capital of Smithfield -- Bush won 63 percent of the vote there in 2004 -- the county party had gone defunct until last month, when several previous members and several new arrivals decided that, with the election coming up, they ought to resurrect it.

They placed an ad in the paper and called 100 names on the old membership list. A dozen people expressed interest, and they now meet every other week. On Thursday, they organized a house party to watch McCain's speech. Thirteen people showed up to watch and dine on snacks with American-flag paper plates and napkins. Their reaction to McCain's speech was muted, with some of the loudest applause coming when he mentioned Palin.

They also plan to set up a table at the county fair, but otherwise their outreach has been limited -- a few sessions of phone-calling and a few door-to-door canvasses by a couple of core members, during which they distributed generic GOP literature because they have not yet received any McCain brochures. They have had trouble getting bumper stickers and have run out of lawn signs. They still need to assign captains for most of the county's dozen precincts, and will not expect anything from those volunteers except manning the polls on Election Day -- unlike the Obama campaign, which expects precinct captains to spend weeks finding ways to reach out to their neighbors.

John Brannis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and military contractor employee who volunteered for the Bush campaign in the county in 2004, was not concerned, saying that calling voters or knocking on their door was not worth the effort -- Republicans had done fine in 2004 despite doing little of that. It is more effective, he said, to chat with people on his daily rounds, like the older woman who asked him to pump her gas the other day.

"People here know that if you want to know about Republican Party, talk to J.B. Brannis," he said. "It needs to be about personal relationships."

Cristina Morris, who moved to Isle of Wight last year from Fairfax County with her husband, an officer with the Navy Judge Advocate General's Corps, was surprised that she has wound up as the chairwoman of the resurrected county party. "We didn't think we'd be running it, but someone has to do it," she said.

The picture is similar around the area. In Surry, Hall has not gone door to door yet, saying that "it's too expensive driving around." "If people can't get the information they need now with all the media floating around, then they've got a problem," he said. In Suffolk, Steve Trent, a salesman leading the volunteer effort, is holding off on canvassing until he has literature for all the GOP candidates on the ticket. But, he said, Palin's instant celebrity will overcome any delays.

"What woman do you know who could shoot a moose, field-dress it and serve it?" he said. "This has really energized the conservative side of the house."

Gail Gitcho, a McCain spokeswoman in Virginia, said that the campaign is satisfied with its progress and that Palin's selection was already having palpable effects, most visibly in an increase in the number of women volunteers turning out to make phone calls at the campaign's offices. "We have a lot more work to do but we're feeling very good about Virginia," she said.

How much evangelical Christian support McCain would have drawn without Palin is open to debate. It was in Virginia Beach, home to Pat Robertson's Regent University, that he gave his 2000 speech labeling Robertson and Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance." But he later reconciled with them and impressed evangelical Christians with his performance at a forum at the Saddleback mega-church in California last month.

Palin's appeal among evangelical Christians may not be universal. Some may be put off by her overt religious references, as when she called the war in Iraq a "task that is from God" at an Alaska church and asked members of the congregation to pray for the natural gas pipeline she is trying to get built. Many younger evangelicals have elevated issues such as global warming, which Palin does not think is necessarily caused by greenhouse gas emissions.

But Charles W. Dunn, dean of the government school at Regent University, said that her stances on "family values" issues "trump the others" and that evangelical Christians have been "transformed into worker bees" as a result of her selection. "Early returns suggest an all-out embrace. She has created a buzz like I've never seen before," he said. "These folks felt hopeless, and all of a sudden they've been given hope overnight and beyond measure."

Peyton White, a McCain activist in Newport News, concurred, saying that she would feel much more comfortable now in approaching other members of her church to help campaign, because they identify with Palin and see her as paving the way for others like them. "People see her as one of them," she said. "There's a feeling that this is something all of us could be transformed into, because she's done it now."

By Alec MacGillis
© 2008 The Washington Post Company

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by afmca September 8, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
McCain''s choice for VP will permanently divide this country. I for one would like to see us permanently split into two nations - red and blue - so the blue states can continue to evolve while the red slip into permanent stupidity. More psuedo-christians will be praying for McCain to die in office so Palin can bring her ultra-conservative religious beliefs and impose them on the American people. Will she continue Bush''s unconstitutional power grab and send her christian military troops into American streets as her morality police. Dobson''s believers have already seriously compromised the Air Force academy. This is the vision of America from the Prophets for Profit. Conservative Republicans want a Saudi style theocracy where the rich stay insanely rich, don''t have to play by the same rules, and they intellectually and physically imprison the rest of society around their archaic moralistic dogma.
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by talkingham September 8, 2008 9:35 AM PDT
What is truly amazing about Palin is the double standard in the media for her - it''s been more than a week since she was nominated and yet she still can''t answer questions one on one with the press. If this was a Dem nominee and could not answer questions directly from the media the press would be in 24-hour rant mode saying what a novice and "not ready for President." It is a double standard and the GOP is the one always whining about how badly they are treated. It looks like the media is building the perfect lie for this not ready for president nominee. In the meantime we will get a bunch non-issue stories such as this "gay conversion: pablum that are really designed to bring out her GOP right-wing base rather than raise any real questions about the legitimacy of this person to be president. I guess the standard was set so low when Bush Jr. was elected that it doesn''t much matter anyway. Palin is so ready to be president that she may never answer any questions, just like Bush.
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by sleepyric September 8, 2008 9:37 AM PDT
Dear AFMCA: Bravo! I couldn''t have said it better. You are exactly on topic!
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by sleepyric September 8, 2008 9:38 AM PDT
Talkingham: Again, bravo! There are some intelligent people out there! I would like to know when Ms. Palin will speak to the press?? Isn''t it about time?
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by causeway_q September 8, 2008 9:39 AM PDT
McCain''''s choice for VP will permanently divide this country. I for one would like to see us permanently split into two nations - red and blue - so the blue states can continue to evolve while the red slip into permanent stupidity.

Posted by afmca at 09:16 AM : Sep 08, 2008"

Er, one point on this - the people of the red states slipped into permanent stupidity years ago

Name even one southerner from the last 20 years who has shown anything resembling a functioning brain
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by dysmn September 8, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
For the Hillary voters that Sarah Palin has energized, keep this in mind. If Sarah does badly, you can kiss any chances of Hillary or any woman of becoming President for a long long time. McCain chose Sarah because she was a conservative woman not because she was an experienced woman.
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by patriciaohio September 8, 2008 9:54 AM PDT
I HATE SARAH PALIN %u2013 DUMP BIDEN AND ADD HILLARY SO WE CAN WIN THIS ELECTION!!
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by wapotank September 8, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
John McCain and Sarah Palin will be a GREAT!!! The Dems are so desperate their hate campaign has escalated into an unbelievable terror attack on anyone who would not agree with them. It is most frightening! They are so hateful they even turn on their own party members who disagree, ask questions or think for themselves. The Dems idea of Freedom is you must accept anything and anyone they deem no matter what their elected choice says, does or whoever they associate with. You must embrace them even of it isn''t good for you, if you don''t, they will threaten, chastise and terrorize you. You must blindly believe, there is no room for individual thinking. The Party is what you live for and must sacrifice everything you have for the Party.
Their idea of reaching out has turned into a foot on your neck to succumb you lest you not follow our ways. We do not do what''s good for the country, but what we want. They do not compromise because gloating over others is what they live for. If this current party of Democrats prevail, you can throw away the National Anthem, The American Flag, the Constitution and the Presidential Seal, because they will all be replaced by the Obamanation with the Obama logo!
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by elevando September 8, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
McCain and Palin will bring real change to Washington.

Obama will not.

In Obama''s last three years in the Senate, he didn''t cross aisles, he voted with Dems 97% of the time.

That isn''t change you can believe in.
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by robert6781 September 8, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
Yes! Elevando! You are right on the money! Now, if more people would just be as smart as understand the basics of common logic and real information. Experiance does matter.
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by stickbowman September 8, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
afmca writes: "...so the blue states can continue to evolve while the red slip into permanent stupidity. "

Hmmm, there are few if any "blue states." Its more like about a dozen heavily populated metro zones who vote democrat, most of the country votes republican.

I''m thinking I''d rather NOT have a bunch of cynical city bigots running America. I''ll take that good ol'' country common sense any day.

Go Sarah!!!!



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by talkingham September 8, 2008 10:14 AM PDT
Yes, dragonfly it is terrifying that someone who can''t answer questions from the press nor even minimally control the drinking habits of her teenagers as well as their flagrant sexual behaviors while preaching to the rest of us about abstinence is now inline to be president if McCain wins. Meanwhile the media u neocons all claim to loath treats her with kid gloves.
People like you personally insult the patriotism of every Dem presidential candidate while cradle robber McCain 17 years older than his millionairess wife rides her fortune to the White House, let''s see when McCain was 30 his wife was 13, he''s a cradle robber. His status as an American hero is damaged by picking this Alaska low-life for his VP. She knows nothing about the needs of the rest of this country living as she evidently lives in her Alaska dreamworld of no black people, no urban infra structure decay and a myriad of other problems this nation faces. But she is perfect willing to eliminate a woman''s right to choose whether to have a baby or not even if the baby is the result of rape.
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by robert6781 September 8, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
In an interview with Stephanopolous this weekend, Obama slipped and said "my Muslim faith" and Stephie had to correct him.

. Now Obama says that he considered joining the military after high school, although he''''s NEVER mentioned it before and never mentioned it in his 2 memoirs.

. Now Obama says he is considering delaying rescinding Bush''''s tax cuts if the economy doesn''''t improve. What''''s this? a LIBERAL admitting that high taxes hurt the economy and lower taxes HELP the economy?

. Now he says he was too flip with his "that''''s above my pay grade" abortion comment.

Perhaps Obama wants to apoligize to Bill for not choosing Hillary over Biden- and back track yet again on what he meant to do, meant to say- meant to imply. The poor sap just doesn''''t make the grade to lead anything- He is not Presidential in any form. He is more and more like Bush than most realize.

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by September 8, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
I bet Obama wishes he had picked Hillary for VP. If I were Hillary or Bill, I would follow Joe Liebermans move. I would become Independant and tell Obama and the DNC to fend for himself.
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by realpatriot1 September 8, 2008 10:28 AM PDT
Fernando56,

What is it that makes you a "real American"?

It certainly can''t be your total stupidity. The oil comapnies already have over a million acres of drillable acres that they haven''t drilled on. Why? Because it takes years to prepare for drilling.

If offshore drilling were approved today the first drill wouldn''t go into the ground for another decade.
We import over 80% of our oil and the amount that would be added to the stream once we did drill offshore wouldn''t make a ripple in the stream.

This is a gimmick to divert the public''s attention form the fact that those in Washington with the "experience"(in both parties) have presided over 30 years of an energy policy that''s written by and serves the interests of the oil companies, both domestic and foreign.
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by realpatriot1 September 8, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
Johnny302,

You must be conducting a poll in your pants because I''ve seen over 30 polls recently and none of them have more than a 3-4% point spread in either direction.
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by realpatriot1 September 8, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
Syk is right on the money!

Most Republicans would agree that Karl Rove is not going to present a poll tlted toward the Democrats, right?

Rove''s electoral map has Obama safely ahead in states with 260 of the 269 e.v. total needed to be elected(a tie goes to the democratically controlled House).

Rove has McCain safe in states with 194 electoral votes.

The remaining 84 are up for grabs. Since McCain needs to get to 270(he loses a tie)he needs 76 of the 84. Obama needs 9 of 84.

If you want to bet your house on McCain put your bet on the table.
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by realpatriot1 September 8, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
Robert6781 reads debunked and disproven right wing smears and partison rumors and calls it homework.

Those of us who''ve actually have done our homework recognize you as just another idiot.
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by ibzjem September 8, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
Oh it''''s one of gallop''''s Most LIKELY to VOTE polls. It takes into account NONE of the MILLIONS of new voters who''''ll be voting for the first time. IF you want a better view of what''''s going on go to the State Polls. THEY more accurately reflex the Electoral Map and the Electoral Race. Obama is Far in front there and is doing EXTREMELY well in all battle ground states.

Posted by skyk at 10:28 AM : Sep 08, 2008

Yes, exactly my point my friend. The Polls are biased. All polls are actually. The only accurate and complete poll with on Nov. 4. Well, I expect accurate. That is as long as the Repubs don''t try to steal this election too by "un-registering" so many non-repub voters.
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by elo888 September 8, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
I am not a fan of Palin, but Dr. Tantillo (''the marketing doctor'') did a recent post on his branding blog ( http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv ) naming Palin the branding ''winner'' for this past week. I believe that this piece (and pieces like it) underscores his point: "At bottom, what Palin did was prevent people from being distracted from her brand%u2019s core features. Every possibly fatal distraction (i.e., her daughter%u2019s pregnancy) she turned into a strength (every family has its struggles)."

Full post: http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv/2008/09/05/brand-winners-and-losers.aspx
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by ibzjem September 8, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
Sunday Biden says life begins at conception. Over the weekend Obama said he''''ll not rescind the Bush tax cuts if the economy remained in trouble. Earlier on O''''Reilly he said the surge did work.


Backtracking on the surge, taxes and abortion. Hmm. Next thing you know Obama and Biden will start campaigning in red open-toed shoes and frameless glasses.

Posted by Robert6781 at 10:39 AM : Sep 08, 2008

I know you are taking this all out of context. Did you watch 60 minutes last night? The surge was Bush''s decision, not any of the generals, the VP, advisers, or other military authority.
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by ioweign September 8, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
Palin Pick Energizes GOP Base

So how many houses does Palin bring to the McCain Campaign ??
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by frootloophhh September 8, 2008 10:52 AM PDT
I heard the McCain Campaign is FINALLY letting Palin be interviewed. It-ll be on ABC by Charlie Gibson...I didn-t catch the day/time.

Caveat was Charlie can-t asked tough questions..or one-s she wasn-t brief on. He can ask:
Is it easy putting lipstick on a pit bull?
How hard was it being a city council member of a city less than 9,000 people and moose?
Was it hard being Mayor?
It it hard being Governor of a state with less people (and moose) as the city of Austin, Texas.
:-)
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by talkingham September 8, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
Well between cradle robber McCain whose millionaire wife was 13 when he was 30 and Mrs. Do As I say Not AS I Do "social conservative" Palin who can''t control her own alcoholic and impregnated teens you''ve got a real winner there.

Yes Obama is smart enough to change his positions when new information supports change and yes Obama is willing to risk an O''Reilly hatchet-job interview while Palin is not allowed to say anything that her handlers have not written for her or to be interviewed by the press until she has been programmed by the neocons to only speak on 4 or 5 bigot-base topics. Great potential president you have there with a 5-month old baby in tow. U people are ridiculous, but with the support of corporate controlled media they will build the lie that this woman is ready for the presidency.

Meanwhile Cradle robber McCain who looks more and more like a Gila monster in every photo gloats over the so-called surge that was built on the backs of our troops by extending their deployments far longer than any troops in our history since WWII. Meanwhile it is revealed that it is basically an Iraqi-run murder for hire program that has produced the most important results in Iraq, not the surge.

Great job cradle robber.
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by misands September 8, 2008 10:59 AM PDT
I must admint that I kind of hope the GOP wins and Palin suddenly has to take the reigns of the presidency! It would be a scream watching her run the military and make foreign policy and economic decisions that effect the whole world. Perhaps then the world will come to see that the future is not the USA, but it''s China, Russia, and Brazil. The intellectual decline of the US is very apparent, and sadly it will only continue to worsen.
To those who belly-ache about the state of the US, remember that destiny is already written, so just sit back and enjoy the show. I know I am.
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by oscarez September 8, 2008 10:59 AM PDT
"She''s right good-looking -- that''s all I need to know."

This is a Republican who knows where the countries priorities lay.
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by hotpaulie September 8, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
Palin energizes GOP Base???? Are things that bad for the GOP? This is a lady who has enough to worry about in her own household much less the entire country. I totally respect her but, wow, this may haunt republicans for a long time.
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by misands September 8, 2008 11:03 AM PDT
They can shield her for awhile, do a George Bush on her for awhile, but in the end she still has to convince American''''s that she IS not a religious nut case AND that she can indeed, with all her baggage, reach out to Democrats who WILL, unlike her state, be in control of the Congress. YOU can''''t PROMISE to end what YOUR party has done for decades and take hard line positions that say you can NOT! LOL Obama 08
-Posted by skyk
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You forget that America is in a Evangelical revivalism that really fits the rise of this Palin lady. I think she is really more along the thinking of the majority of the American people at this time. It''s time to let the chips fall where they will and give America the theocracy it secretly craves.
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by hawksprings September 8, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
Prediction:
You are about to see the Mainstream Media, hand in hand with the DNC and the Obama campaign, pull out all the stops to destroy Sarah Palin.

The attacks, inneundo, lies and smears on Sarah that we are about to witness these next few weeks will make what they did to Quayle, Bjork, and Clarence Thomas look like the Media was actually in love with them.

Just watch.
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by ioweign September 8, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
ABC, CBS aired no analysis from Dems during Day 2 of RNC coverage, despite airing analysis by Republicans during Day 2 of DNC coverage.

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by Sharkdog2000 September 8, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
Great, the ones the scare me more than any other extremist group - religious fanaticals. Pray for our country!!!
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by trrrorislami September 8, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
MCCAIN/PALIN 54%

HUSSEIN/BIDEN 44%

In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/%u2014 3 points for both samples.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-07-poll_N.htm
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by ioweign September 8, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
Prediction:
You are about to see the Mainstream Media, hand in hand with the DNC and the Obama campaign, pull out all the stops to destroy Sarah Palin.

The attacks, inneundo, lies and smears on Sarah that we are about to witness these next few weeks will make what they did to Quayle, Bjork, and Clarence Thomas look like the Media was actually in love with them.

Just watch.

Posted by HawkSprings at 11:08 AM : Sep 08, 2008

ABC, CBS aired no analysis from Dems during Day 2 of RNC coverage, despite airing analysis by Republicans during Day 2 of DNC coverage

Summary: Neither ABC nor CBS aired analysis from Democrats, Democratic strategists, or progressive media figures during their live coverage of the second day of the Republican National Convention. By contrast, both aired analysis from Republicans and conservatives, as well as from Democrats and progressives, during coverage of the second day of the Democratic National Convention.
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by hawksprings September 8, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
Oh sure skyk,
Go ahead and ignore the point, and mock the technicality.

If that''s how you reason things, then you ought to have a field day with Obama talking about his "Muslim Faith" this weekend.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/
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by hawksprings September 8, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
"msnbc fired matthews and olberman today"
Posted by jamesm12341

WOO HOO!!!!

But my prediction still stands.
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by bikerb54 September 8, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
Palin creeps me out. I watched her speeches and, to me, she doesn''t come across as real. She reminds me too much of the uptight evangelical "I know what''s good for you and you don''t" kind of female. I sure don''t want someone in the White House telling me how to run my life and what to do with my body. She has no right to do that considering she doesn''t pay my bills, she doesn''t take care of my family and she doesn''t walk in my shoes. I don''t have the government paying for my home, my car, my heating and transportation gas, my food or my health care as she does. So what gives her and McCain the right to even think they know what people like me even need? They are so far out of touch with the real "middle class" that I want to have them live my life for 3 months without help from our taxes and then see where they stand!
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by hawksprings September 8, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
"the ones the scare me more than any other extremist group - religious fanaticals. Pray for our country!!!"
Posted by Sharkdog2000

Are you talking about Obama and his "God damnn America" pastor?
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by misands September 8, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
Dang, from you above stinky drizzle I am having difficulty trying to determine if you are more sexist than you are elitist, and what percentage-American you are relative to your boy Sen. 50%-Amerifrican.
-Posted by Fernado56
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I''m certainly not sexist. I think a woman can do just as good or bad of a job as a man.
Am I elitist? Call it what you''d like, but I really call it being realistic.
I really don''t care that you think she is more qualified because she was a governor of a state with less people than most major American cities. But remember, by your definition of ''qualified'', you are then saying she is more qualified than MCCain as he hasn''t served a role in the Executive branch of government either. but little right-wing drone, you go ahead and vote GOP again.....I don''t really care.
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by hawksprings September 8, 2008 11:14 AM PDT
bikerb54
Now you know how conservatives feel about Obama, Clinton & Clinton, Peloozi and the like, only in reverse.

But Palin has run her own business with her husband, and she was raised by educators.
That should make you feel a little better.
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by thevicar2 September 8, 2008 11:15 AM PDT
When is someone going to creat an all American news network for real Americans??? ------------------------------------------------------ Posted by Fernado56


What? Did you gt tired of regurgitating all of Al Frankens garbage???
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by hawksprings September 8, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
Hey misands,

Biden is a senator from a state that''s about the same size as Alaska, and smaller than many American cities.

So what''s your point?
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by culturechang September 8, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
It is the Supreme Court appointments by conservatives that worry me most. I dont like the politics on either side.....because they generally dont represent us. But the court is where your freedom lies. That is where you get protection as an individual from govt and corporations. Conservative justices dont see it like that.
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by hawksprings September 8, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
Hey jamesm12341,

Obama should have picked a Change Candidate, and not a Washington insider since 1972.
1972... think about how long ago that is...
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by thevicar2 September 8, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
Are you talking about Obama and his "God damnn America" pastor? ------------------------------------------------------ Posted by HawkSprings


Al-Bama will be the same in December as he is now...

A Senator from Illinois.
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by moneymcbush September 8, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
I could never vote for a traitor Like McCain who has repeatedly voted against the troop (9 times), fought against MLK day, and has a running who who wants to overthrow the US govt. The fact that he picked such an extreme whacko like Palin shows hes unfit to lead a diverse nation and only cares about the white and the wealthy.


These two goons are just Bush-Cheney in a different package.
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by hawksprings September 8, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
"And what about approval ratings? "
Posted by onemoretim

President Bush: 29% approval rating.
Peloozi and Gang: 9% approval rating.

That''s right. Peloozi and Gang have an approval rating in SINGLE DIGITS.

Never happened before.
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by thevicar2 September 8, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
And what about approval ratings? ------------------------------------ Posted by onemoretim



Polls, just like approval ratings, do not determine who holds which office.
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by misands September 8, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
Maybe you think you are doing the right think, trying to control American''''s lives, but rest assured YOU are not. As a member of McCarthy''''s staff said during the 60''''s: "We were foolish to think we could ever mold this nation into a model of what we wanted and NOW the entire nation must pay for OUR arrogance"! Write that down and remember YOU are creating those division''''s to be exploited - skyk
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I''m sorry you think I am part of this Evangelical nonsense...I''m not at all! However, I see that America has been headed that way for sometime now, and I say "let''em have it then". This Palin lady is a part of the holy-roller-faith-heeling-nonsense, and if she actually has a shot at being second in command, then let''s just do it! I think the world would be safer if America just proves it''s intellectual irrelevence once and for all so everyone else can move on and create a system that doesn''t rely so heavily on an intellectually backrupt nation that is lives in suspersition instead of reality.
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by moneymcbush September 8, 2008 11:23 AM PDT
Why does john McCain think Rape is Funny?


"Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die?

When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, %u2018Where is that marvelous ape?%u2019"-as told by John McCain


Now we know why John McCain didn''t think it was a problem to accept $300,000 raised by Clayton Williams, who had this to say about rape:


As long as it''s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.



These people are some slimy low lifes.
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by thevicar2 September 8, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
Obama should have picked a Change Candidate, and not a Washington insider since 1972 -------------------------------------------- Posted by HawkSprings


Shoulda picked a Change Candidate.
Shoulda married a Patriot..
Shoulda got a real US birth Certificate...
Shoulda picked a non-Bigoted Pastor....
Shoulda lost to Hillary.....

Vote DEMOCRAT...Vote SHOULDA
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