San Francisco Delays ID Card Program

Mayor Requests Review Of Program Providing Identification To All Regardless Of Legal Status

(AP)  San Francisco is delaying a controversial program that would provide identification cards to all residents regardless of legal status.

Mayor Gavin Newsom requested last month that the ID card plan - closely watched by other cities considering similar initiatives - be suspended "until a thorough review has been completed," according to a letter sent to the city administrator.

"The mayor wants to proceed cautiously with this program to ensure that it complies with all applicable federal and state laws," Nathan Ballard, the mayor's spokesman, said Thursday.

The plan has provoked debate over the rights of immigrants, but Newsom has said he sees it as a practical move that will make it easier for San Francisco citizens to qualify for local services and for city government workers to determine who is eligible to receive them.

The law, which was scheduled to take effect at the end of August, was modeled after a program launched in New Haven, Connecticut. Similar initiatives are under consideration in New York City and Miami.

San Francisco's policies toward illegal immigrants have come under intense scrutiny after it was revealed that a number of juvenile offenders were shielded from deportation because of the city's sanctuary policy.

Newsom reversed the juvenile offender policy in May, but said he stood by the city's vow to shelter illegal immigrants who otherwise follow the law from deportation.

The ID card plan is the target of a lawsuit filed by the Washington-based Immigration Reform Law Institute, which argues that the city approved the program without accounting for the environmental impact that the influx of new immigrants would have on the city. City Attorney Dennis Herrera plans to ask a judge later this month to toss out the lawsuit.

[deacon20081]

Illegals have Human Rights not the Rights of Citizens get over it California.

[libsluv2spit]

Illegals have Human Rights not the Rights of Citizens get over it California.

Posted by deacon20081 at 08:55 AM : Sep 05, 2008
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having an ID does not infringe an illegal''s HUMAN RIGHTS but more on an issue of legality..YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEGAL AND ILLEGAL..HONEST PERSON AND DISHONEST PERSON..SOMETHING THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT HAVE ANY GRASP.

[libsluv2spit]

"Newsom reversed the juvenile offender policy in May, but said he stood by the city''s vow to shelter illegal immigrants who otherwise follow the law from deportation."

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its funny..I even wonder if any of these illegals can actually AFFORD TO LIVE IN SAN FRAN.

[myopinion381]

"provide identification cards to all residents regardless of legal status."

I don''t understand why illegal immigrants should even be considered for ID cards. Do they have US birth certificates? I doubt it. I had to have my daughter''s birth certificate plus her school ID to get her an ID card and she is a US citizen!

[slim1h2o]

This smacks of New York''s great idea to give illegals a drivers license.

The good people of NY smacked that down as San Fran should.

When are our leaders going to come to grips with the idea that we don''t want illegals here? When are they going to start acting in OUR best interests? Or better yet, in the countries best interests? Either way.

Last week would have been a good time to start.

[vastr-wcon]

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Please keep SF as a SANCTUARY CITY.

There are now several groups in Tucson that provide FREE transportation to illegals via a one-way ticket to SF. We believe this is a win-win-win situation: we get rid of the tax-dollar-sucking parasites and criminals in our community and SF gets to support these illegals and enjoy the crime and other good things they bring. So far, after over 300 "deportations" to SF, we continue to find that the illegals are eager to take our free transportation offer and enjoy the riches of a tax-payer-supported life in SF. For each deportation, Tucson tax payers save about $32,000 annually in costs of supporting illegals. So please, please, keep SF as a sanctuary city. You can afford it!

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[penskeone]

Good!

Finally we are compromising.

[slim1h2o]

Finally we are compromising.


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Posted by penskeone at 01:09 PM : Sep 05, 2008


On what? That breaking the law is ok? and you will be rewarded?

Oh that''s just great for a compromise!

[penskeone]

On what? That breaking the law is ok? and you will be rewarded?

Oh that''''s just great for a compromise!


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Posted by slim1h2o

What is you solution, Genius?

[slim1h2o]

What is you solution, Genius?


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Posted by penskeone at 01:22 PM : Sep 05, 2008

Well at least your calling me something other (and more accurate) than a nasty name, and thats a start. And you know my solution, go back home and enter the legal way. Pretty simple?

Well I would think so.

[nwarky1]

This is simple. There should be no sanctuary in the USA for these criminals. Maybe we should just take all of the criminals out of the jails and give them a city somewhere to live in. Wake up folks, and tell your government to send them back across the border.

[penskeone]

This is simple. There should be no sanctuary in the USA for these criminals. Maybe we should just take all of the criminals out of the jails and give them a city somewhere to live in. Wake up folks, and tell your government to send them back across the border.


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Posted by nwarky1

You think we have the Manpower, Resources, and Funds to deport all 12 million (plus) illegal immigrants? Get Real! What world are you living in?

[penskeone]

Well at least your calling me something other (and more accurate) than a nasty name, and thats a start. And you know my solution, go back home and enter the legal way. Pretty simple?

Well I would think so.


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Posted by slim1h2o


What makes you think that would work? (12 million people later).....

[lily1972]

no matter what happens. they are not going to deport all illegals, they bring in to much money to the US everyone knows that. so stop whining & just learn to live with it. they do in Mexico when US tourist come & some don''t leave from there.

[penskeone]

Let vigilante groups get ahold of them. I bet they''''d think twice if the filthy little foreigners saw some of their friends and family hanging from some of the over passes.
PPPHHHUUUUCCCKKKK all those filthy little burrito eatin, puta loving, midget assseedd illegals (and we know they are Mexs). I''''m tired of lookin at them.


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Posted by Elichez1

We should use you as target practice!

[slim1h2o]

What makes you think that would work? (12 million people later).....


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Posted by penskeone at 02:45 PM : Sep 05, 2008




Well for once you''re right! We all know that Illegals in general, and Mexicans as a rule, can''t follow the rule of law.




Just look at their country, and if we allow it, this country will look the same.


If we allow it!

[myopinion381]

no matter what happens. they are not going to deport all illegals, they bring in to much money to the US everyone knows that. so stop whining & just learn to live with it. they do in Mexico when US tourist come & some don''''t leave from there. Posted by lily1972 at 02:55 PM

How do you figure "they bring in too much money to the US"? Have you ever seen how much of the money they make here gets shipped back to their familes in Mexico?

[penskeone]

Well for once you''''re right! We all know that Illegals in general, and Mexicans as a rule, can''''t follow the rule of law.




Just look at their country, and if we allow it, this country will look the same.


If we allow it!


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Posted by slim1h2o at


When you say "Mexicans", you are offending all Mexicans in General. You are making it a racial issue. Now you lost all your credibility. People like you call themselves Patriots, Great Americans, Minutemen, etc...Unfortunately for you, McCain and Obama both favor a Comprehensive Reform Bill.

[bob5ford]

Seems they''re running from high crime and gun murder rates above the U.S.''s in Mexico......And bringing it here!!!!!

[penskeone]

no matter what happens. they are not going to deport all illegals, they bring in to much money to the US everyone knows that. so stop whining & just learn to live with it. they do in Mexico when US tourist come & some don''''''''t leave from there. Posted by lily1972 at 02:55 PM

How do you figure "they bring in too much money to the US"? Have you ever seen how much of the money they make here gets shipped back to their familes in Mexico?


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Posted by MyOpinion381

Illegals also purchase; Taco Bell, Radio Shack, a pair of shoes etc...They work for businesses who also pay taxes. If you are so worried about them not paying taxes, we should push Congress to pass a reform Bill to legalize them!

[penskeone]

Seems they''''re running from high crime and gun murder rates above the U.S.''''s in Mexico......And bringing it here!!!!!


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Posted by Bob5ford

Now you want to blame Crime on Illegal Immigration.


I didn''t know illegals were the only people commiting crime.

[slim1h2o]

When you say "Mexicans", you are offending all Mexicans in General. You are making it a racial issue. Now you lost all your credibility. People like you call themselves Patriots, Great Americans, Minutemen, etc...Unfortunately for you, McCain and Obama both favor a Comprehensive Reform Bill.


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Posted by penskeone at 03:24 PM : Sep 05, 2008



Mexicans are not not a race. Just like saying Americans are not a race, But a nationality. Do you not find white Americans? Do you not find Black Americans. Do you not find Asian Americans? They are all Americans, without a doubt.



It is you my friend that is the racist.



It''s an inconvenient truth that the Mexicans are the biggest perp. on crossing the border.


Just suck it up and deal with it.



And quit calling people names when you are losing a debate.


It''s very unbecoming.

[penskeone]

Mexicans are not not a race. Just like saying Americans are not a race, But a nationality. Do you not find white Americans? Do you not find Black Americans. Do you not find Asian Americans? They are all Americans, without a doubt.



It is you my friend that is the racist.



It''''s an inconvenient truth that the Mexicans are the biggest perp. on crossing the border.


Just suck it up and deal with it.



And quit calling people names when you are losing a debate.


It''''s very unbecoming.





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Posted by slim1h2o


okay...
Why are we calling (As Americans) Barack Obama African American? Why are we calling Bill Richardson Mexican American?

Your a Fool if you think I''m gonna believe your little cheap racial hype!

Illegals are here! You Suck it up! Quit being a little sissy and worry about yourself.

McCain is right. We are a Nation of Whiners, and you are the biggest one!
Like a black folk would say "you sound like a bunch of ol'' cacklen a$$ biatches".

[slim1h2o]

McCain is right. We are a Nation of Whiners, and you are the biggest one!
Like a black folk would say "you sound like a bunch of ol'''' cacklen a$$ biatches".





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Posted by penskeone at 03:49 PM : Sep 05, 2008



TSK TSK TSK


Is all I have to say about you. Except, You''re UnAmerican, and should be brought up on charges of Treason.



Good day to you!

[frankbowers]

Why wjould any government in American want to giove the bucking illegal aliens a new card that they might be able to scam the country out of funds illegal, I think this should be held until it is clear that the da mn illegal aliens are not allow to get the cards, what is the purpose for an illegal to have American ID. Frank
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. Frank

[frankbowers]

THE ILLEGALS BRING INTO AMERICAN TAX ANY PROFIT BUT INSTEAD ROB IT DAILY, ONE BIRTH COST OVE 12,000, WHICH IS MORE THAN AN ILLEGAL WILL EVER PAY AS THEY PAY NO FEDERAL OR STATE TAX EXCEPT THE SALES TAX GATHERED AT POINT OF SALE................
THE ILLEGAL ARE ROBBING AMERICA AS THEY HAVE ABOUT 10 ANCHOR CHILDREN AT ABOUT12,000 EACH AND TEN EQUAL 120,000, THEIR MONTHLY FOOD STAMP IS ABOUT 400 PER CHILD AND MOTHER SO 10 LITTLES ONES IS ANOTHER 48000 PER FAMILY, THE HOUSING IS ABOUT 500 PER MONTH WHICH IS ABOUT 6000 PER YEAR, THE EDUCATION IS ABOUT (HERE IN TEXAS 90,000 PER YEAR)ABOUT 75,000 PER CHILD PER YEAR FOR AT LEAST 12 YEARS AND SOMETIMES MORE. THE SCHOOL LUNCHES ACCORDING TO MY DAUGHTER (SHE WORKS AT FISD IN THE FREE LUNCH AND BREAKFAST ====SOME OR ASKING FOR A AFTERNOON MEAL AS WELL NOW) IS ABOUT 500 PER MONTH PER ILLEGAL ALIEN CHILD THE AVERAGE FAMILY IN HER SYSTEM IS 6 KIDS PER FAMILY. THE COST JUST KEEPS ADDING UP SO WE IN AMERICA CAN DO WITH OUT THE ILLEGAL, WHO DRED LIKE RATS AND STEAL LIKE A MEXICAN.......
FRANK

[lily1972]

not all illegals are LATINOS / mexicans as all like to call them. goes will go on for years & years & it still won''t change anything.

[lily1972]

frankbowers, that is what americans do also some americans don''t work,don''t pay taxes,they live on food stamps & have lots of children that live on welfare

[tootall10142]

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH FRANK BOWERS AND TOO ADD THIS TO PROBLEM THE ILLEGALS WHO ARE PARENTS USE THIER KIDS AS LEVERAGE AGIANST THE LAWS BECAUSE THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES ARE RELUCTANT TO ARREST THE PARENTS BECAUSE THEN THEY HAVE ALL THOSE DEPENDENT CHILDREN TO DEAL WITH AND FOSTER CARE IS NOT THAT LARGE.THEY HAVE BACKDOORED THE LAWS AND GENEROUSITY OF THE UNITED STATES AND HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING ANYTHING BUT SKATING BY DUE TO THIER MASSES.THE TAX PAYER AND THE CHILDREN SUFFER AND THE PARENTS IF YOU NOTICE WALK AROUND WITH THIER HEAD DOWN AND CANT LOOK YOU STRAIGHT IN THE FACE UNLESS THEY WANT SOMETHING FROM YOU OR {OUR COUNTRY}.WITH ALL THE GENEROUSITY EXTENDED TO THE LOUISANA HURRICANE EVACUEES 17 WERE ARRESTED IN ONE DAY FOR SHOP LIFTING OUR LOCAL STORES.ONE REPORTER POINTED OUT BY LISTING THIER NAME IN THE PAPER 13 OF THEM WERE MEXICAN.FROM THAT THIRTEEN 8 WERE ILLEGALS SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.

[libsluv2spit]

Illegals also purchase; Taco Bell, Radio Shack, a pair of shoes etc...They work for businesses who also pay taxes. If you are so worried about them not paying taxes, we should push Congress to pass a reform Bill to legalize them!


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for every dollar they put in they take out a $100 on social services

[libsluv2spit]

frankbowers, that is what americans do also some americans don''''t work,don''''t pay taxes,they live on food stamps & have lots of children that live on welfare

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oh we got your reasoning..now add this to yours..SO IT MEANS WE NEED TO ADD SOMEBODY ELSE''S PROBLEM AS WELL???
hey a lot of people from all over the world are drug addicts as well..BRING THEM IN BECAUSE A LOT OF LIBERALS ARE DRUG ADDICTS..

you need a head check

[klingon69]

"Newsom reversed the juvenile offender policy in May, but said he stood by the city''s vow to shelter illegal immigrants who otherwise follow the law from deportation"

How can they follow the law when just being here is illegal?

[gatofeo]

Until we stop recognizing and defining by race, there will continue to be a racial problem in this country and the world.
You think America is racist? Europe is 10 times worse. There, everyone with the slightest dark skin is a "North African." And "North Africans" are not thought kindly.
Let''s stop the titles, "African American" and "Mexican American." Heck, I don''t call myself a German/Belgian American, though that''s my ancestry.

As for San Francisco: It declared handgun ownership illegal. Even that souvenir Luger that grandpa brought home from the Battle of the Bulge is illegal. Even that .22 pistol that Dad carried on the farm.
Gun control doesn''t work. Never has.
Now, Friscoers want to open their arms to a group that has flagrantly violated the laws of the nation: illegal aliens. What part of "illegal" don''t you understand?
Time and again, Friscoers have insulted the American military with various proclamations calling for the removal or banning of military bases and missions.
Fine. When the big earthquake hits then Friscoers can depend upon illegal aliens to help them.
Don''t send the military to help.
And unarmed Friscoers will become prey to the roving bands of armed criminals that will take what they want, just like in New Orleans.
San Francisco is ruled by a politically correct dictatorship.
Spread the word: Don''t visit that city. And write the mayor why you''re boycotting it and any San Francisco products: Ghiardelli chocolate and some beers come to mind.