WASHINGTON, Sept. 2, 2008

Bye Gustav, Hello Hanna, Ike, Josephine

Forecasters Watching Three New Storms In Atlantic

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(AP)  The tropics seem to be going crazy what with the remnants of Gustav, the new threat from Hanna, a strengthening Ike and newcomer Josephine. Get used to it.

U.S. hurricane experts say all the weather ingredients, which normally fluctuate, are set on boil for the formation of storms. And it is going to stay that way for a while, they said.

Four named storms at the same time is a bit odd, but not unprecedented, meteorologists said. In 1995 five named storms lived simultaneously. And in 1998 there were four hurricanes at the same. But wait and see what happens next.

"Give us time, this is only Tuesday," said meteorologist Dennis Feltgren, spokesman for an all-too-busy hurricane center in Miami.

The peak of hurricane season is not until Sept. 10 and this season already has 10 named storms, which is the long-term average for an entire season.

"Normally in an active season, there are bunches of hurricanes and lulls. It just doesn't seem like there's been bunches of lulls. I sure hope we're not talking (hurricanes) Christmas Eve," said meteorology professor Hugh Willoughby at Florida International University.

Two hurricane prognosticators - including William Gray, who pioneered the field of storm season forecasts - predicted Tuesday that this month would be almost twice as busy as an average September. They forecast five named storms, four of them hurricanes and two of them major.

These latest predictions cover only September and are not a revision of the season-long forecast, which called for a total of nine Atlantic hurricanes through November.

The wind and water conditions that led to the September update will likely continue for the next month or so, said Phil Klotzbach of Colorado State University, co-author of the new report. But if history is any guide, those conditions should change sometime in October, he said.

Wind shear - wind coming from a different direction at high altitude - often weakens a hurricane or at least puts the lid on some developing storms. But at the moment, the only wind shear in the entire Atlantic hurricane region is around Hanna, Feltgren said. So a major factor keeping other storms from forming or strengthening is absent, he said.

Waves of clouds and thunderstorms this time of year head westward from northern Africa every couple days. Some become tropical storms and hurricanes and others just die down. Gustav, Hanna, Ike and Josephine all started as those waves. What's different right now is that all those waves from Africa head right into a brew of air and water conditions ideal for strengthening, Klotzbach.

First, in the deep tropics, certain winds are blowing from the west and in the subtropics they are coming from the east, creating a propensity for spinning in between - which is the main hurricane development region - Klotzbach said. The current "spin factor" is among the top 20 percent in history, he said.

Add to that the fact that water temperatures are slightly warmer than normal, Klotzbach and Feltgren said. Warm water serves as fuel for storms.

And finally, Klotzbach factored into his forecast how the season has already been so far this year: Extremely busy. That means the atmosphere is unstable, which is good for storm development. He said the atmospheric pressure in the hurricane formation area is among the lowest it has ever been and storms are giant low pressure systems.

So Klotzbach advises to keep watching those waves coming off Africa: "There may be one today or tomorrow. But certainly today we have enough to worry about with Hanna, Ike, Josephine and Gustav remnants to keep us all busy."

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by downsteamjim September 5, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
To rf35: We need to move the people from New Orleans to Howard Dean''s state. After Katrina, he let us know he didn''t want that type of people in his lily white state. Fortunately he was a democrat or that would have been a racist statement.
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by rf35 September 4, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
As far as I''m concerned, all the dolts who returned to N.O. after Kat deserve whatever they get.
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by lloydbest1 September 4, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
"Ike is more likely to spin itself out in the ocean and become extra-tropical." Posted by Pensacola98 at 04:55 PM : Sep 02, 2008

My, what a difference two days makes!

Ike is now a mid Cat 4 storm that, as of 1100 EDT, is packing 140 mile winds and a 27.7 inch barometric reading. All the more impressive since he is spinning in water a good 5 - 8 degrees cooler then in the Gulf and is fighting a 20 mile N.W. wind shear that''s playing h*ll with his upper level outflow.
Consensus opinion amongst the pros has him heading off to the north after dipping slightly south of west and giving the Bahamas and Hispaniola more grief.
But no one knows for sure. Ike''s track is around the southern border of a dome of high pressure that is sagging west and south. This could push him further south than the consensus predicts. In fact there a re a few models (NOGAPS and ECMWF) that think he will move far enough south to rip up Cuba''s northeast coast before curving north - either before or after he sneaks into the Gulf Of Mexico. If it''s after, then we''d better hope that trough now over the mid Mississippi Valley pushes far enough east to steer Ike away from the big (Sl)easy. No joy there, though, because if you live in Tampa-St. Pete or Ft. Meyers then that''s exactly what you do NOT want.
Regardless of where Ike ends up, people living in the Southeast are in for some "interesting" times. Stay alert, stock up and, if you''re told to, get outta Dodge.
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by xmanborg September 4, 2008 2:01 PM EDT
My bet is on IKE.

Ike is going to HAMMER the USA. Its about time Miami gets hit by a Cat 4 so get packed up and ready to evacuate Miami your turn is coming.
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by sly_64 September 3, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
It''s a bunch of fun living in S Florida. You get real used to the weekly hurricanes. Most don''t do that much damage.
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by sleepyric September 3, 2008 10:33 AM EDT
geez...they''re lined up like bowling balls!
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by keithle1 September 3, 2008 12:49 AM EDT
Stay where y''all are. We''ll let you know when you can come back home. Maybe at the end of the month. Columbus Day at the latest.

Must be fun to live in Louisiana & Florida.
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by lewiston14 September 2, 2008 11:35 PM EDT
"Hurricanes are natures ways of releasing excessive heat that builds up in the tropical regions of the Earth and are a normal part of the complex inner workings of our planet.

Posted by noaanhc

Good insite and so very true air and water need to be stirred like a pot of boiling water so as not to burn.
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by lovesamerica September 2, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
I am betting on Joesephine being the bad storm. Lot''s of miles and water to cross and she already is awful big
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by gce65 September 2, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
Looks like God is a little slow to respond to Dobson and the religious whackos who prayed for rain to disrupt the Dems. Or maybe God has better timing.
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by sistatee-2009 September 2, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
Evacuate the evacuees again No, bring them home Bring them home in order to evacuate them...or...evacuate them in order to bring them home. Just put ''em on a bus from to somewhere from somewhere, and then take their pictures to show they''re on a bus.
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by haoli25 September 2, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
I''m putting 5 bucks down on IKE.
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by pensacola98 September 2, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
Josephine is the most southern of all the present storms and is forming in the famous "Cape Verde" area, known for killer storms. This one will be the one to worry about.

Hanna will be a rain-maker for the Carolinas and contribute to significan recharging of the aquifers and watershed in the North Carolina, Northern Georgia, and Eastern Tennessee.

Ike is more likely to spin itself out in the ocean and become extra-tropical.

The La-Niqa weather patterns offer hurricanes while the El-Niqo weather patterns don''t. This is because the El Niqo patterns have the sheering winds at 24,000 feet that literally slice off the the tops of the thunderstorm formations that attempt to mature and form hurricanes.
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by yongamerica September 2, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
Notice hurricanes hit the evangelical belt?
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by timdgrim September 2, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
Did Dobson''s Focus on Fascism group miss their timing by a week or so?
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by noaanhc September 2, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
Hurricanes are natures ways of releasing excessive heat that builds up in the tropical regions of the Earth and are a normal part of the complex inner workings of our planet.
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by corndog644 September 2, 2008 6:06 PM EDT
Are we having fun yet?
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by displeased September 2, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
Those storms are so far out to sea, the media as$holes and liberal freedom haters are salivating that these will end the world if it could, screw all you liberal freaks!
Posted by zgomer

Actually, it''s you neocon religious types that are hoping for the end of the world due to you dwelling on your bible''s prophecies.
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by sly_64 September 2, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
We''re used to the weekly hurricanes here in S Florida.
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by vastr-wcon September 2, 2008 4:38 PM EDT

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We report, you decide:

"A little blow and a lot of hot air."

1. Hurricane Gustav, or
2. sweetie hussein and plagiarist-joe.

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