WASHINGTON, Sept. 2, 2008

McCain Opposed Funds For Teen Moms-To-Be

GOP Candidate's Record Examined In Wake Of News That VP Pick's Teen Daughter Is Pregnant

    • Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, left, smiles after introducing his Vice Presidential running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, in Dayton, Ohio., Aug. 29, 2008. Photo

      Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, left, smiles after introducing his Vice Presidential running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, in Dayton, Ohio., Aug. 29, 2008.  (AP Photo/Stephan Savoia)

    • Bristol Palin, 17, at the campaign rally where Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., introduced Bristol's mom, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, as his vice presidential running mate in Dayton, Ohio, Friday, Aug. 29, 2008. Photo

      Bristol Palin, 17, at the campaign rally where Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., introduced Bristol's mom, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, as his vice presidential running mate in Dayton, Ohio, Friday, Aug. 29, 2008.  (AP)

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(AP)  Republican John McCain, whose running mate disclosed that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, has opposed proposals to spend federal money on teen-pregnancy prevention programs and voted to require poor teen mothers to stay in school or lose their benefits.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's announcement Monday about her daughter, Bristol, was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter's. Palin said her daughter intends to raise her child and marry the baby's father, who was identified only by his first name, Levi. The baby is due in late December.

McCain's record on issues surrounding teen pregnancy and contraceptives during his more than two decades in the Senate indicates that he and Palin have similar views. Until Monday, when the subject surfaced in a deeply personal manner, teen pregnancy and sex education were not issues in the national political campaign.

Palin herself said she opposes funding sexual-education programs in Alaska.

"The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," she wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates.

McCain's position on contraceptives and teen pregnancy issues has been difficult to judge on the campaign trail, as he appears uncomfortable discussing such topics. Reporters asked the presumptive GOP presidential nominee in November 2007 whether he supported grants for sex education in the United States, whether such programs should include directions for using contraceptives and whether he supports President Bush's policy of promoting abstinence.

"Ahhh, I think I support the president's policy," McCain said.

When reporters pressed McCain whether the government should provide contraceptives or counseling on contraceptives, he replied, "You've stumped me." McCain said later that he was sure he opposed government spending on contraceptives.

The McCain campaign on Monday did not respond to repeated requests for information.

In Senate votes, McCain has opposed some proposals to pay for teen-pregnancy prevention programs. In 2006, McCain joined fellow Republicans in voting against a Senate Democratic proposal to send $100 million to communities for teen-pregnancy prevention programs that would have included sex education about contraceptives.

In 2005, McCain opposed a Senate Democratic proposal that would have spent tens of millions of dollars to pay for pregnancy prevention programs other than abstinence-only education, including education on emergency contraception such as the morning-after pill. The bill also would have required insurance companies that cover Viagra to also pay for prescription contraception.

McCain voted for the Family Support Act in 1988, which passed overwhelmingly in the Senate and required teen mothers who receive public assistance to remain in high school and, in some cases, to live with their parents.

"Young parents who have not completed high school will be required to stay in or return to school to complete the basic education so necessary to a productive life," said President Reagan, as he signed the law in October 1988.

McCain cited abortion, sex education and birth control as some of the issues on which he differed with Joycelyn Elders, former President Clinton's nominee for surgeon general. He quoted Elders as telling lawmakers that abortion has had positive health effects, including reducing the number of children "afflicted with severe defects."

"As a father of a number of young children, including an adopted daughter who was born with a birth defect, I am deeply, deeply troubled by these views," McCain said in a 1993 speech opposing Elders' confirmation.

Palin's fifth child, a son named Trig, was born in April with Down syndrome, a genetic abnormality that impedes physical, intellectual and language development. Conservatives supportive of Palin as McCain's running mate have praised her choice to deliver Trig even after the family learned about his condition during prenatal testing.

McCain said the country unarguably had a problem with teen pregnancy, but said Elders' approach would only make it worse. He said Elders started a program to distribute condoms in schools, but the rate of teen pregnancy actually rose in those counties. When it turned out many of the condoms were defective, Elders decided to continue the program rather than halt it or inform the public of the risk, McCain added.




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by rushliberal September 2, 2008 9:49 AM PDT
Of Course he did - GOD FORBID a Republican actually help an American!
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by tscc2 September 2, 2008 9:50 AM PDT
Please enlighten me. What has McCain done for women through out his career? All of you McCain supports please provide list. This is just a political stunt; of course McCain is a complete contradiction. Every Republican is since their party lost their way.
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by September 2, 2008 9:52 AM PDT
Well..it looks like we''re going to have our first black president....that or our country will have a vice president who has a *** for a daughter......what a mess our country is in and going to stay in...
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by richnj1 September 2, 2008 10:00 AM PDT
Just another example of how nothing good for the GOP will come from having chosen Palin.

If McCain is still happy that he picked Palin, then his bad judgment is compounded by his stubbornness.
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by ofbyfor2 September 2, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
The human body does not come supplied with an owner''s manual. It is the height of irresponsibility to deny young people who are approaching puberty with at least the basic knowledge and understanding of reproductive health. While, ideally, the parents should take on this role, there are too many who won''t or can''t.Kids need to be taught basic ***-ed prior to puberty and abstinence-only programs have been shown to have an abysmal failure rate. Unfortunately, Bristol Palin is an example of this. Best wishes to her; it won''t be easy.
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by superdem September 2, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
Hi, I''m Bristol Palin, and I''m here to tell you that Abstinence Only works ! BWAHAHAHAHHAAH!!! Are you kidding me ? I love "fly fishing", if you know what I mean !!! Can''t get enough of that "trouser trout" and Levi knows what I mean ! He''s a self-proclaimed redneck, and he only rides "bare-back" so God will take care of whatever happens. Just think, my baby and my new little brother will be best friends ! So all you Democrats with your *** education and your choice *** can just stuff it ! Gotta go now, Levi wants more, and so do I. It''s none of your business what I do - at least I''m not GAY !!!!
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by jonsid2 September 2, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
Can someone tell me why she would have prenatal testing done if she was against abortion and would have kept the baby no matter what?
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by talkingham September 2, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
Well of course he opposed it, because most of these teen moms are black. Period. Do as I say, not as I do.
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by ddaryl1 September 2, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
yes lets deny new born babaies and infants a chance at a helathy life in those early years. God knows a teenage mother doesn''t need any financial health.

Which is why we must denounce contraceptions, and abortion, because it is very obvious this country is very willing to do whatever it takes to make sure these new borns have everything they need to become great additions to our society.

republicans have their heads way up their *****
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by blazercoach1 September 2, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
Was this article written by the Obama campaign? I can''t believe the author wrote in McCain''s expression of "Ahhhh" before he answered. Does CBS also include Obama pausing for 5-6 seconds after every third word?

The bias is obvious for anyone who looks to see what IS rather than what they want to see.
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by blazercoach1 September 2, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
Was this article written by the Obama campaign? I can''t believe the author wrote in McCain''s expression of "Ahhhh" before he answered. Does CBS also include Obama pausing for 5-6 seconds after every third word?

The bias is obvious for anyone who looks to see what IS rather than what they want to see.
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by jtdev1 September 2, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
blazercoach1 - Are we whining? - Again???

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by hachidori September 2, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
Bush just tried to get put out an executive ''change'' to the law that would have had all birth control classified as abortion. Is this really what we want? It''s not just teenagers who use birthcontrol, lots of married couples, adults etc. Do they reallly think that people only have s*X for the purpose of making a baby??? Teenagers should be told to abstain, no one is questioning that, but they should also be educated about their bodies & know about birth control. All the evidence shows that s*x ed programs work, less teen pregnancies etc.
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by shingles1 September 2, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
"Ahhh, I think I support the president''s policy," McCain said.

blazercoach1, so you''re saying they should have cut out the ''Ahhh'' and printed it instead as ''I think I support the president''s policy''?

Does that really make McCain''s response sound all that better? It still sounds like either McCain 1) wasn''t sure what his position was on this issue or 2) has mixed feelings about this issue.
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by likeitis5050 September 2, 2008 10:43 AM PDT
You aren''t going to stop ***, but the government should not be involved in programs providing ''teach me how'' videos or prevention gimmicks like free condoms. Kids know how to have ***...with or without a teacher firing up a CD explaining it. Kids have been swamped with STD warnings and all that can happen because of unprotected ***...so they go oral to stay in the game. President Clinton ushered that little feature into society and made it quite trendy at the same time.

The issue is whether parents of teens who choose to have *** and end up with STDs or pregnancy should have to shoulder the cost or should it be ''society''s problem'' and subject to an expense free ride on the backs of tax payers. I happen to know of parents who raised their children to abstain and guess what...they didn''t and are now kicking in to support the young parent and baby with the help of programs like WIC. If anything has been proven hands down by now to be a complete failure it''s that passing out condoms and making kids feel like playing around with *** is absolutely fine if they simply use a condom. Putting the responsibility of the issue of teen pregnancy back to the parents, who feel helpless when the government is teaching and encouraging and promoting the very thing they don''t want to happen, where it belongs. But the government seems determined to take over that role as well. Welcome to the mind set of the Democrat.
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by bobmarisol September 2, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
McCain Opposed Funds For Teen Moms-To-Be:
GOP Candidate''s Record Examined In Wake Of News That VP Pick''s Teen Daughter Is Pregnant

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So CBS decides to examine John McCain''s record in light of his running mate''s personal family issues.

Yet it has still refused to examine Obama''s record in light of the fact that he voted in favor of infanticide while he was with the Illinois Senate. Even when a baby miraculously survives the abortion process, Obama voted to deny it medical care to ensure that it dies.

Interesting what CBS chooses to examine. Obvious evidence of liberal bias.
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by moneymcbush September 2, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
Its getting tough to tell who is more of a Nut, McCain professing his love of war while dolled up in fancy Italian shoes or Palin with her whacko belief that Alaska should be independent from the US.

I have to think greedy boy John is still the bigger Nut since he made the coice of sarah for Vice Nut.
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by caliguy55 September 2, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
The Republican spin machine is an amazing thing to watch, although anyone with a little common sense can readily discern the BS and lies pouring out of this propaganda device. Watching the pious G.O.P. Delegates on TV talking about prayer and respect for the Hurricane Victims and reading the stories about the behind the door parties being thrown by lobbyist and big corporations for the Delegates, one quickly gets a sense of the magnitude of the deranged thinking that fills their minds. Of course, the truth eventually comes out, but it doesn''t seem to bother them as they effortlessly move on to the next bigger and better lie. These people are so hypocritical and stupid that they begin to believe their own lies. And, so it goes from day-to-day that bright and cheerful gathering known as the G.O.P. convention. Obama/Biden 08!!!
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by shingles1 September 2, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
likeitis5050, I agree with you that government shouldn''t be involved in parenting issues. But blaming Clinton is silly - as if BJ''s never existed before Clinton came around.
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by armydog2 September 2, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
bobmarisol
how is this liberal bias, it is the truth.
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by noncommsoc September 2, 2008 10:52 AM PDT
Uncle Sam is not "yo baby''s daddy". This goes for all races and citizens and non-citizens in this country. I can understand someone needing help due to circumstances beyond his or her control. However, education comes first. Kids don''t need *** education to tell them not to do something they are going to do anyway. McCain is right and so is his running mate. He should support teen moms staying in school or losing benefits. He also should support a new idea, one that prevents new mothers who have families from getting a free apartment and a free ride for having a baby. Working in the school system, I see and hear many young women planning to become mothers so they can get out of their parents'' houses. I hear many young fathers to be talking about living in those free apartments with their "girlfriends." These teens are planning their futures based on the governmental assistance meant for emergencies as a part of their future financial plan. If McCain and our Republicans want to spend any money on programs it should be adding courses on learned helplessness and generational poverty and how to avoid or escape these two situations without relying on the government to do it. It is time for folks to stop whining, creating their own problems so we need more and more social services, and do what it takes to be more than a government leach and a barely surviving American. Young folks take the lead and stop living off of grandma and the government.
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by September 2, 2008 10:53 AM PDT
Republicanism:
*** = bad
contraception = bad
under-aged/un-wedded pregnancy = good
providing assistance to above = bad
shotgun wedding for above = good

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by tootall10142 September 2, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
Educate your children in the home or hold classes at the piblic library.The fathers of these children should have thier nuts cut off.If your teen gets pregnant and it is a welfare baby? The parent shpuld be made to give it to adoption.After three or four hundred surrenderings the public will begin to catch on.Then the grandparents get it on the problem.As a teen they would chastised by thier family.Sound cruel.Im tired of paying for other peoples kids .F-kem let them sheeet 20000 and then they can have one at least tthen it will only be food stamps,housing assistance and health insurance we will be patying for.These deadbeat dads need thier testis cut off and i mean the first time a child support payment is missed gather them up and cut them off .Now there a program i can support.
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by bobmarisol September 2, 2008 10:56 AM PDT
how is this liberal bias, it is the truth.

Posted by armydog
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Thanks for your question. It is liberal bias because even if it is true, the bias of CBS causes it to only report CERTAIN ''true'' facts. Why does it choose to examine McCain''s record on teen pregnancy while ignoring Obama''s?? That is the bias.

McCain may have voted against federal funds being given to teen mothers. But Obama voted to kill babies even if they manage to survive the abortion process.

To be fair and neutral, CBS should examine the full picture. It is fine to look into McCAin''s record, but to do so while simultaneously hiding Obama''s infanticide record is clear evidence of liberal bias.
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by missingamerica September 2, 2008 10:56 AM PDT
What can you say about people who oppose teaching their children to know about *** and contraception, even when it results in harm to those who should be nearest and dearest to them?

Other than they must have monstrous egos, to hold their beliefs to be of greater value than the lives and futures of their own children?

Oh - and I suppose you could say that they are probably Republicans...
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by cyndilu9 September 2, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
Of course he did - that is the Republican philosophy.

It''s funny how God works....and brings truth to the surface. this time at least it is in time for the election!

Go Obama / Biden 2008
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by xmanborg September 2, 2008 11:06 AM PDT
I bet McCain Flip Flops on this issue.

Did anybody see McLame in Mississippi this weekend and his interview about the Hurricane.

Wow What Carizima McLame has. He is so exciting and enthusatic it is to watch him on TV. McLame is a real attention getter McLame is like watching PAINT DRY.
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by xmanborg September 2, 2008 11:08 AM PDT
McCain Opposed Funds For Teen Moms-To-Be

I bet McLame Flip Flops on this Issue.
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by gwagener September 2, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
I would like someone to ask Palin if she will pledge to not get pregnant if elected? And if so, what means will she use? And do not tell me rhythm, because that is how she got the Downs syndrome baby. And do not tell me abstinence, because that is how her daughter got pregnant.
I think meternity leave is fine for most other jobs, but unacceptable for president.
For Palin to get pregnant at 44 was poor judgement. For her to carry a fetus to term who will never be a contributing member of society was irresponsible.
There are not good qualities for a VP or president.
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by zorar-2009 September 2, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
Typical righteous republican party full of gas bags & old f@rts trying to dictate their backward hypocritical attitudes on everyone ... America get off their rat infested ship of fools or sink with these mental midgets of the stone & dark ages!
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by willymack September 2, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
Give it up folks. The Lady was honest about a family problem. Was Bill Clinton honest about his problem, no, was John Edwards honest about his problem, no, They both lied, smiling into the camera. If you are low life enough to lie to you wife, why would anyone believe you won''t lie to the American People, to Israel, to Iran, to Europe etc. Once a liar always a liar. Obama fits well with Clinton and Edwards because he lies.....substituting accomplishments of others for his own faiure to accomplish anything in his short political career.
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by moneymcbush September 2, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
"I''m an Alaskan, not an American. I''ve got no use for America or her damned institutions." - Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaskan Independence Party

What did Palin (former member of AIP along with hubby) say to the AIP Convention earlier this year: "Keep up the good work."

Typical American Family my behind, this lady is a total nutcase.
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by gwagener September 2, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
Sexx education is a state and local issue and the federal gov should not be involved, so this should not be an election issue.
Federal funding for teen contraception is a federal issue and McCain/Palin/Bush/Cheney have the irresponsible position on that issue.
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by ipublius September 2, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
This is a prime example of McCain''s lack of judgement. Did he think it was OK to have children out of wedlock? What kind of values does this Veep candidate have? Did McCain misunderstand what the word "vice" in Vice President meant, or did he just think that one more *** in Washington didn''t matter?
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by ipublius September 2, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
So if the proper english word for a child out of wedlock cannot be printed here, then it must be culturally unacceptable.
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by yongamerica September 2, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
So, then Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin''s daughter, Bristol, is having her second baby?
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by deacon20081 September 2, 2008 11:27 AM PDT
Sexx education is a state and local issue and the federal gov should not be involved, so this should not be an election issue.
Federal funding for teen contraception is a federal issue and McCain/Palin/Bush/Cheney have the irresponsible position on that issue.
Posted by gwagener

John McCain has made it an election issue. The history of his votes in the Senate are public knowledge. "His I support the President''s view" is unacceptable. He changes his tune every time he is questioned on anything of substance, hence the name John McSame.
Let''s not forget his running mate is being investigated by her own State for "Trooper gate"
and has a possible Impeachment coming...perfect huh?
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by gwagener September 2, 2008 11:27 AM PDT
So, then Alaska Gov. Sarah Palins daughter, Bristol, is having her second baby?
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Posted by yongamerica at 11:18 AM : Sep 02, 2008

They claim Bristol is due in Dec, so she was pregnant when Trig was born in April. Unless some part of the preceeding sentence turns out to be a lie, Trig cannot be Bristols son.
Besides, a Downs sydrome baby is almost unheard of for a 17-year-old mother, but very common for a 44-year-old mother. Which means it was very irresponsible for Palin to get pregnant at 44.
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by gop_forever September 2, 2008 11:30 AM PDT
You know, there was a time long long ago when we God fearing republicans would be embarrassed by all of this scandal.
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by gwagener September 2, 2008 11:31 AM PDT
his running mate is being investigated by her own State for "Trooper gate" and has a possible Impeachment coming...perfect huh?
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Posted by deacon20081 at 11:27 AM : Sep 02, 2008

It is too soon to speculate on the "trooper gate" scandal, but since when do you get impeached for anything when the legislature and governor are both the same party?
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by gop_forever September 2, 2008 11:31 AM PDT
Besides, a Downs sydrome baby is almost unheard of for a 17-year-old mother, but very common for a 44-year-old mother. Which means it was very irresponsible for Palin to get pregnant at 44.


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Posted by gwagener
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Actually quite common when the mother is very young or very old.
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by exhausted3 September 2, 2008 11:33 AM PDT
I''ve always loved CBS Morning News, but this morning I was completed disgusted with the way the media is hammering the issue of this child''s pregnancy. The kid made a mistake. She is taking responsibility for her mistake and the media is trying to humiliate her over the issue. Why hasn''t the media hammered Obama''s Muslim roots in this manner? After 911, I would think his background is more threatening to this country than Bristol''s pregancy. Let''s stick to the issues that threaten our country like terrorists. I doubt very seriously if Bristol Palin will receive any welfare benefits from this pregancy. Let''s focus on these teens that are having multiple pregancies to receive welfare. Now that''s an issue to discuss.
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by missingamerica September 2, 2008 11:34 AM PDT
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When Sen. John McCain chose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate, he portrayed her as a strong opponent of wasteful federal spending. Paul Kane reports this morning that when Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, she employed a lobbying firm to get almost $27 million in federal earmarks for that community 6,700.
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http://voices.washington
post.com/dot.comments/2008/09/palin_and_
her_earmarks.html?hpid=topnews
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by gop_forever September 2, 2008 11:35 AM PDT
but since when do you get impeached for anything when the legislature and governor are both the same party?


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Posted by gwagener
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When you are a maverick that has taken on the establishment, so we dont have to worry about that.
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by missingamerica September 2, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
Let''''s focus on these teens that are having multiple pregancies to receive welfare. Now that''''s an issue to discuss.

Posted by exhausted3 at 11:33 AM : Sep 02, 2008

Ya hear that, America''s high school gals?

One is OK with the Republicans...they''ve loosened up the definition of what seperates the "poor, unfortunate girls" from "welfare mommas".
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by walt1944-2009 September 2, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
In 2004, VP Darth Vader Cheney''s daughter came out of the closet and flatly stated she was living with her female lover. This despite the Vader''s, the Great Emperor Bush II''s and the neocon Fascist Nazi Republican party''s stand AGAINST gay rights.

Of course, no neocon will address the issue, despite the fact that since then the Vader''s out-of-the-closet daughter has begun a family with her lover.

Now we have another possible VP who, together the John "DRRRRILLLL" McCain, refuses to spend federal money on "the facts of life" education in school, but expects sympathy for her daughter who, apparently didn''t know the "facts of life"; something you would have expected her mother to tell her about since the educational system couldn''t!!!

In light of all this, it makes John Edward''s "gooody-two-shoes" act look like typical VP material.

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!!
sig heil, "FAMILY VALUES", McCain!!!!
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by warmonger247 September 2, 2008 11:42 AM PDT
wow what a great mom, letting her daughter get pregnant!
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by gop_forever September 2, 2008 11:43 AM PDT
One is OK with the Republicans...they''''ve loosened up the definition of what seperates the "poor, unfortunate girls" from "welfare mommas".


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Posted by ibsteve2u
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SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE HAS "CLASS-ENVY".
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by irliberal September 2, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
Hi, I''m Mrs Palin. I am governor of one of the smallest states in the Union (population wise). I''m under investigate for getting people fired that I don''t like. I won a beauty contest and men like me because I have big bazoombas. My 17 year old daughter is pregnant but I run on an abstinence and morals platform. When 72 year old McSame gets cancer again (for the fifth time) I''ll be pushing the Button at 3:00 AM.

President Palin? YIKES LOL!!! Now THAT''s scary!
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by shouterguy September 2, 2008 11:47 AM PDT
No money for teen Moms? Now THAT''S pro-life!

Here''s another group that Senatot McCain denied funds for, Hurricane Katrina victims:

Though McCain issued a statement the next week (after Katrina) calling on Congress to make sacrifices in order to fund recovery efforts, he was quoted in The New Leader on September 1 [2005] cautioning against over-spending in support of Katrina''s victims. "We also have to be concerned about future generations of Americans," he said. "We''re going to end up with the highest deficit, probably, in the history of this country."
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