St. PAUL, Sept. 2, 2008

It's Palin's Party, Not McCain's

The Nation: Republican Platform Lines Up With Positions Held By Bottom Of The Ticket

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Sarah Palin says she is "proud" that her 17-year-old daughter, who is five months pregnant, has made a "decision to have her baby."

Foes of abortion rights are celebrating the decision.

Richard Land, the president of the Southern Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the 16-million-member Southern Baptist Convention, says,
"The Palin family, in making this choice to affirm life and affirm the baby, is giving a pro-life stance."

Referring to Palin's daughter, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, said, "Fortunately, Bristol is following her mother and father's example of choosing life in the midst of a difficult situation."

Interesting words those: "decision," "choice," "choosing."

Palin and her family are being celebrated for making wise and responsible decisions and choices.

Yet, Palin and her party would deny Americans the right to wise and responsible decisions and choices.

The extreme social conservative and religious right activists who have so enthusiastically embraced Palin's candidacy do not like the idea in allowing women - or men, for that matter - to have too much say with regard to how they live their lives. This is made exceptionally clear by the Republican platform that was endorsed by the convention Monday, a document that steers far to the right even of the conservative positions taken by Arizona Senator John McCain.

It is now quite clear that the presumptive presidential nominee rejected his own vice-presidential preferences in order to satisfy the right with the Palin pick.

But it goes deeper than that.

There is simply no question that the GOP that meets in St. Paul to grudgingly nominate John McCain for president is Palin's party.

It is the governor of Alaska who speaks the anti-choice language of the current Republican Party, not just on reproductive rights but on a host of other issues.

The presumptive Republican nominee for vice president is, arguably, the most militant foe of free choice ever to be proposed as a member of a major party ticket.

Palin is not merely opposed to abortion rights.

She said when she entered statewide politics in Alaska that she was as "pro-life as any candidate can be." She takes the militant position of opposing allowing women to choose to terminate pregnancies even in cases where they have been raped. She also opposes allowing abortions in cases of incest.

"I am pro-life," Palin wrote in response to a 2006 questionnaire from the conservative Eagle Forum. "With the exception of a doctor's determination that the mother's life would end if the pregnancy continued. I believe that no matter what mistakes we make as a society, we cannot condone ending an ending an innocent's life."

Palin's anti-choice orthodoxy, like that expressed in the 2008 Republican platform, runs across the issue spectrum.

She opposes embryonic stem-cell research and other scientific initiatives that might give sick people the option of choosing treatments that could cure them or at least allow them to treat their ailments.

She opposes physician-assisted suicide and other procedures that might allow terminally-ill people to make choices about whether to end their suffering.

She opposes same-sex marriage and other protections for loving couples that choose to secure their relationships and legally protect their families. And she has supported efforts to put in place constitutional amendments that narrow the definition of marriage and ban benefits for the same-sex partners of public employees.

She opposes decriminalization of marijuana - although she admits to some toking in her younger years -- and other drug-law reforms that would allow Americans to choose whether to consume recreational drugs.

Palin is a good deal less flexible on the issues than McCain. The Republican presidential candidate has been a steady foe of abortion rights throughout his career, but he favors exceptions allowing abortion in cases of rape, incest or where a mother's life would be in danger. Palin opposes most exceptions. And she is far more likely to take cues from the National Right to Life Committee, while McCain split with the committee and its allies to support campaign-finance reforms that they have militantly opposed. (Anti-choice groups oppose transparency in campaign finance laws because they traditionally have collected large sums of money from back-channel sources to run stealth campaigns on behalf of their favored candidates.)

In 2006, McCain broke with the Bush administration and the Republican right to oppose a constitutional amendment written to ban same-sex marriage. "The constitutional amendment we're debating today strikes me as antithetical in every way to the core philosophy of Republicans," McCain told the Senate. "It usurps from the states a fundamental authority they have always possessed and imposes a federal remedy for a problem that most states do not believe confronts them."

In contrast to Palin, McCain supports science and has said he would reverse the Bush administration's ban on federal funding to develop medical treatments using embryonic stem cells.

At every turn, Palin takes rigidly anti-choice positions that are more in synch with the Republican platform than those of McCain.

The platform, which makes only one passing reference in the preface to McCain (as opposed to dozens of references to President Bush in the 2004 party manifesto), rejects the presumptive presidential nominee's stances on same-sex marriage amendments and stem-cell research, as well as his relative moderation on immigration issues. And, when it comes to abortion rights, the platform echoes Palin's militantly anti-choice orthodoxy.

In an Orwellian twist, the document declares that, "Every effort should be made to work with women considering abortion to enable and empower them to choose life."

That line comes a few sentences after an endorsement of a sweeping constitutional amendment -- with no exceptions for rape, incest or threats to the life of the mother -- that would take choice out of the equation by ending the right of women to make decisions about their own lives and their own bodies.

Decision. Choice. Choices.

Sarah Palin and her family embrace them when it comes to their own circumstances.

But she and her party would take them away from other Americans.


By Andy Kroll
Reprinted with permission from The Nation.
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by jmurrieta1 September 2, 2008 8:13 PM PDT
The people of Minnesota, a key Midwest swing state, are not happy that Governor Tim Pawlenty was passed over by John McCain to nominate this nobody from Hicksville.

More people live in the Twin Cities than in the entire state of Alaska. And Minnesota people work for a living, not suck off hush money payments from Big Oil.

Watch for Minnesota to go solid Blue.

Bad Judgment John strikes again. He just flew yet another airplane into the ground.
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by db024024 September 2, 2008 8:15 PM PDT
"although she admits to some toking in her younger years"

Omigodomigod!! She''s brain-damaged just like Obama!!
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by ausus-2009 September 2, 2008 8:50 PM PDT
At least Palin is consistent in her beliefs, right or wrong, unlike the hypocrites in both parties.

That said, there is a case for abortion in some circumstances - rubella, incest and rape, for example. However, I am not in favor of abortion for social convenience. I remember meeting at a party a few years ago a woman with whom I gone to university several years previously. I was told reliably that she had had eight abortions.
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by random_radar September 2, 2008 9:30 PM PDT
Hey, and don''t forget that when McCain drops dead in office, Palin will be the first female President of the United States! I wonder if Hillary Clinton will die of a heart attack?
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by noloyalisti September 2, 2008 9:41 PM PDT
McSame-Failin'' means no more womens rights, war on science and enless Christian Crusades. We will keep on giving our money to the rich, use more oil than ever and global climate change will rapture us. Sounds like a good country for my kids.
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by rational_1 September 2, 2008 10:00 PM PDT
Hey, and don''''t forget that when McCain drops dead in office, Palin will be the first female President of the United States! I wonder if Hillary Clinton will die of a heart attack?
Posted by random_radar at 09:30 PM : Sep 02, 2008

One can only hope... Thanks for the sunny thought.
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by mojuan-2009 September 2, 2008 10:18 PM PDT
, I have always been tired of the GOP using Religion and God to sway voters%u2026.it should simply be about the critical issues and the best leaders to build concensus and implement necessary change to help ALL Americans, not just the faithful. I thought it was hypocritical that Gov. Palin had her poor 17year old daughter holding the 4-month baby with a blanket covering her belly%u2026if she was sooo proud, why were they hiding this? This is so obviously a tactic and it insults educated women like me who can see right thru this risky move. I wonder how the GOP and the media would react if it was a political family that happeed to be Hispanic or black? Would we see it as simply a %u201Ccommon mistake%u201D?! or, would we call it another example of the lack of American values and a baby out of wedlock?!?

Clearly there is a double standard and hypocrisy%u2026Again, it should be about the best candidates and focus on issues.

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by mojuan-2009 September 2, 2008 10:19 PM PDT
, I have always been tired of the GOP using Religion and God to sway voters%u2026.it should simply be about the critical issues and the best leaders to build concensus and implement necessary change to help ALL Americans, not just the faithful. I thought it was hypocritical that Gov. Palin had her poor 17year old daughter holding the 4-month baby with a blanket covering her belly%u2026if she was sooo proud, why were they hiding this? This is so obviously a tactic and it insults educated women like me who can see right thru this risky move. I wonder how the GOP and the media would react if it was a political family that happeed to be Hispanic or black? Would we see it as simply a %u201Ccommon mistake%u201D?! or, would we call it another example of the lack of American values and a baby out of wedlock?!?

Clearly there is a double standard and hypocrisy%u2026Again, it should be about the best candidates and focus on issues.

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by jerr11 September 2, 2008 10:45 PM PDT
It''s not Palin''s party.

It''s Cheney''s and Halliburton''s party!

Expect Cheney to guide the McCain Admin to invade Iran in 09.

Crazy you say?

That''s what I thought about the Iraq war too.



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by alohaone1 September 2, 2008 11:13 PM PDT
Who care????Palin may be very conservative , but she is only the VP , Mc Cain will be the main guy and everyone in this country knows that John Mc Cain knows how to handle the social conservatives , that was why they were mad at him all this time . John Mc Cain will not be controlled by the conservatives the way Bush and Cheney were . John Mc Cain may sometimes do things to please conservatives , because like Democrats and independents , conservatives are his constituents as well , but John Mc cain did and WILL say NO to them when they are over the Limit. John Mc CAin is his own man and all in this country know this very well despite the Dems'' effort to paint him as otherwise . When John was crossing the line to work with them , John is alright , When He runs against their nominee , John is SUDDENLY Bush # 3 , come on , we are not blind . The Dems will lose this Nov. for sure , With Palin who has over the years taken on corruptions as Mc Cain running mate and with SEn. Lieberman''s endorsement(the EX-DEMS VP NOMIMEE), Mc Cain''s maverick qualities are on display once again on the grandest scale!
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by alohaone1 September 2, 2008 11:20 PM PDT
Rest assured America, Palin is the VP , she will only help John to clean up Washington as she has done over the years in Alaska . The VP is only the supportive role and the one with the final say is the President. See how it was with Clinton/Gore or Reagan/Bush or any other Presidency since history ,it was the President who has the final say . Even with Bush/cheney now when Cheney is the most Influential VP , Bush still made his own decision and that was obvious when he sacked Rumsfeld and went with the Surge. So, if the Dems want us to believe that Palin will run the show ( with her being Mc Cain junior in both age and experience ) while Mc Cain is around , they are either So Stupid that they do not know enough fact OR they Are SUPER STUPID to think that we will believe them . Mc Cain 08 all the way!
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by ubrew12 September 3, 2008 12:05 AM PDT
alohaone1 said: "Palin... is only the VP , Mc Cain will be the main guy" The primary VP role is the right of succession, we MUST therefore evaluate her on her ability to lead the nation, not just take up the space behind the President.

And in her ability to lead the nation, she''s an atrocious choice. I really respected McCain before this. Now, I just think he must be out to lunch. It smacks of pandering to a group of people that most Americans actually hold considerable animosity towards: the evangelicals.

McCain the independent may have been tolerable to many of us. McCain the evangelical panderer is most definitely not.
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by jmurrieta1 September 3, 2008 7:43 AM PDT
So Palin is glad her daughter "made the decision to have her baby?"

But Palin would force any other woman to bear a child of any pregnancy.

Rape victim--make her bear the child.

Incest victim--make her bear the child.

Teenage girl raped by her father--make her bear the child.

And then Palin has the unmitigated gall to call herself a libertarian.

It looks like she believes in choice for her family, and complete government tyranny for everyone else''s family.
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by helloall34 September 3, 2008 8:20 AM PDT
Who care????Palin may be very conservative , but she is only the VP , Mc Cain will be the main guy

I can''t believe how many people (conservatives and party faithful) I have heard say this. Did you know that over 20% of 43 presidents we have had were unable to complete their terms? John McCain at 72 would be the oldest of all time, and he has had cancer. Heis first thought when picking a running mate should have been, "who would be great president", not "how can I get back into this race". This choice puts our country at can further risk when we can''t afford it. Did you know Gov Palin''s education is a BA in Journalism from the U of Idaho? Is this really who you believe is best for our country? Conservatives values are great, but they alone do not not make a leader. Great leaders don''t do much actual work, they motivate other to do great things. Great leaders give give hope and make those around them believe they are great. Who is the best leader, with wisdom, and common sense to use that wisdom when making decisions?
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by cattlekate September 3, 2008 8:31 AM PDT
Besides abuse of power charges, as well as traitorous AIP secession ideals, Palin has church and pastor problems too.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html
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by oleander8 September 3, 2008 8:35 AM PDT
What''s the matter with you McCain people? Get your heads out of the sand and face reality. Palin has been a questionable governor for 2 years and before that - the mayor of a town of 9,000 souls. A heart-beat away from the presidency? Nay, I say! She would be a manipulating Rove or Cheney dream-come-true.
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by sean5002 September 3, 2008 9:02 AM PDT
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If you dont vote for Republican the terrorist will hide under your bed .

why did americans fall for this in the past 2 elections . For a nation that claim to be tough we sure fall easy for FEAR.


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by aledes43 September 3, 2008 9:02 AM PDT
I AM APPAULED THAT THE POLLS WOULD LIE AND SAY OBMAH IS UP IN THE POLL%u2019S 50-42, I MEAN COME ON THAT IS ABSOLUTEY FALSE!!!!

THE POLLS HAVE NOT CONTACTED MYSEF, MY FRIENDS OR FAMILY MEMBERS.

OH YEAH BY THE WAY I AM A 24 YEAR OLD BLACK MALE WITH FRIENDS OF ALL ETHNICTITES (AT LEAST A HUNDRED OR MORE) THAT SUPPORT OBAMAH!!!!

THE POLL%u2019S IF ACCURATE WOULD PROBALLY SAY %u201CWELL McCain JUST DOSENT EVEN HAVE A CHANCE IN &&@ TO WIN%u201D

SEE WHAT PEOPLE FAIL TO REALIZE IS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE, SINGEL MOTHERS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, LATINOS, HATIANS, JAMICANS, INDIANS, ASIANS AND OTHER MINORITES WHO DO NOT USALLY SHOW UP AT THE POLLS ARE PISSED OFF WITH THE GOVERMNET AND COME NOVEMBER ARE GOING TO GO TO THE POLLS AND WEAR THEM *** VOTING BOOTHS OUT!!!!!!!!


ANOTHER FACT IS EX-CONS WITH FELONIES IN NEW YORK CITY AND ALL OVER ARE EXCEPT 15 STATES ARE HOLDING A MOVEMENT ACROS AMERICA TO GET THEIR VOTING RIGHTS BACK. WHICH IN A LOT OF STATES IS LEGAL BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN%u2019T KNOW BUT NOW THEY DO.

WHO DO THINK THEY WILL VOTE FOR?

HA HA HA HA HA !!!
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by brownbuilder September 3, 2008 9:33 AM PDT
I do not think the polls want to contact someone that cannot spell,Obama or ethnicities. sweet dreams.
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by brownbuilder September 3, 2008 9:46 AM PDT
Mcain could care less about the United States with his so called patriotism selecting a woman for vp just for woman votes who has 5 kids (one with dow syndrome) and a granchild.Who is going to care for these children while she is running around the world shouting pro life.She also has no respect for herself or other woman. You heard about the radio station she was being interviewed on when the host called then Gov Green of Alaska a *** and cancer victim and all pro life Palin did was laugh laugh laugh. Is this a woman you want as VP no respect for her fellow sister.
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by bread57 September 3, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
If what''s growing in the uterus is not a human being, then it has no human right to live. It''s metabolically alive, but not a person. Abortion, in this view, is morally indistinguishable from having an appendix removed, and should be available on demand everywhere to every woman for whatever reason, no matter how flimsy. But if it IS human, then it has the human right to live, and abortion--for whatever reason--is the intentional killing of a human being. That may only be done to save the life of someone else, in this case, the mother. In this view, the fact that the human being in the womb is the result of rape or incest is irrelevant. You can''t kill someone just because you don''t like the father, or feel bad for the mother.

Palin''s position is actually very consistent with her belief that life begins at conception. It is far MORE consistent than most pro-choice advocates who begrudgingly admit--if only to themselves--that a fetus IS a human being, but think that the mother should still have the %u201Cright to choose%u201D to kill it. The argument for choice is only legitimate if one disbelieves the humanity of the fetus. But if it''s human, allowing it to be killed for any reason other than saving the mother''s life is, pure and simple, first-degree murder.
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by interobserv September 3, 2008 10:09 AM PDT
Does anybody remember former Alaska Governor Walter Hickel? He was Secretary of the Interior during Richard Nixon''s first term. He was an environmetal as well as ethical disaster! He left office in disgrace.
I am not saying Governor Palin has the same issues, but I see valid challenges to McCain''s judgement in his selection and support of her. She has no valid environmental credentials and is a friend of Big Oil, just like Hickel! Obama/Biden are looking real good now!!
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by talkingham September 3, 2008 10:19 AM PDT
If McCain is elected I wouldn''t be surprised to see Palin become President within months of the election. She was vetted by the hardcore rightwing of the party and dictated to McCain with the threat of the conservative base walking out of the convention. They want her to be president so they can have full control, Cheney will still be running things!
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by September 3, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
Wedge issues like abortion, gun-control and gay rights continue to hold this country hostage while our jobs, companies and wealth move to communist nations like China. This year they even ran the best olympics ever and won the most gold medals. There were just too few Moms and Dads like Michael Phelp''s and Shawn Johnson''s who''s sacrifice was enough to propel their kids to the top. The rest were too disracted by mortgage failures, medical expenses,gas prices and educational budget cuts...all problems that grew during two decades of rising corporate profits and tax-cuts. China is growing twice as fast as the US. They did all this by expanding their middle-class with sustained investments in housing, healthcare, education and energy.

During the same periood, our two Bush presidents piled on the debt, owed it other countries and blindly de-regualated everything. Today, 3/4th of Fortune 500 companies don''t even pay taxes, yet they pay enormous dividends that get re-invested in foreign shores.

Wake-up America. It was never about Socialism vs. Capitalism. China has both. Its about government policies that help the middle-class help itself and that direct the private sector''s natural profit instinct to help this country rather than stealing from it. Obama''s 29 policy proposals during Democratic convetion are directionally correct. The DEMs may not accomplish more than half of them, but that is vastly better than the GOPs harping over wedge issues.
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by markangeloo September 3, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
Their choice
Shoot first ask questions later.
How wise is that.
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by kazoodan September 3, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
Or just maybe our military has kept al qaeda over there.... hmmmmmm. If billy would have accepted the Sudans offer of bin laden this would not be happening right now, thanks libotards.

Posted by msgtsteve at 10:29 AM : Sep 03, 2008

And there you have it, folks. When you have nothing else, bring up Clinton.
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by photogeezer September 3, 2008 11:03 AM PDT
With a 73 year old president with cancer, I don''t want a VP who thinks we are in a holy war against Islam. I was fed the same *** at a Protestant chaplain''s retreat before I went to Vietnam.
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by kazoodan September 3, 2008 11:06 AM PDT
Oh yeah, one other thing, STEVE. Maybe none of this would be happening right now if the Republican controlled Congress had passed Clintons'' proposed Anti-terrorism legislation back in 95 and 96, much of which resembles today''s Patriot Act. Hmmmmmm?
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by talkingham September 3, 2008 12:01 PM PDT
It''''s clear from photos made in March, one month before Trig Paxson Van Palin was born that Sarah Palin was more concerned about her looks than gaining the proper weight during pregnancy. Her staffers didn''t even know she was pregnant. Weight gain of the mom is crucial to the health of the infant but perhaps Palin was more concerned about her looks and photo shoot with Vogue 3 months before the baby was born. Guess she made an executive decision that may have affected the health of her child.
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by interobserv September 3, 2008 12:39 PM PDT
Ummmm... lets see she ran a town, and now a state, with budgets and decisions and such.
Ummmm.... lets see Noboma has been really busy on his first term not voting in congress, not making any decisions that affect anyone, nor making any change in his party....
ummmm.... very qualified indeed. She will go far.


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Posted by msgtsteve at 10:27 AM : Sep 03, 2008

Hmmmm....She ran a state with less people than any county in New Jersey.
Hmmmm....She abused her power in office by firing a member of the state police involved in a messy divorce from her sister.
Hmmmm....Her and her husband were members of a seccessionist (i.e. treason) group bent on leaving the U.S.

Obama has been a community organizer, elected to WORK as an Illinois legislator and to WORK in the Senate. Respected by colleagues on both sides of the isle.
Very, very qualified indeed!!
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by horse3farm September 3, 2008 12:55 PM PDT
And Bush just released 250,000 gallons from the Strategic Oil Reserve to Citgo, the Venezuelan company, (on CNN.com) because of the Hurricane damage. Now last I checked Venezuela''s president hates Bush. And since Bush would not approve releasing oil from the Reserve for Americans, I guess Bush hates Americans.

I don''t think I''m voting at all. Both choices suck.
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by talkingham September 3, 2008 1:32 PM PDT
Ummmm,let''s see...

She refused to gain weight during her pregnancy as the photos made in March 2008 clearly show she doesn''t appear pregnant...
Posed for the Vogue photo shoot 3 months before the baby was born, ummm couldn''t look pregnant for that....

Flew around the country giving speeches with party hacks while pregnant and the baby due at any time...
uuummm, baby born premature with Down Syndrome, probably not related or Ummmm....

It''s well known that premies are much more subject to a wide range of birth defects including cerebral palsy, guess she didn''t take that into account while not feeding herself during pregnancy, executive decision I suppose.
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by vastr-wcon September 3, 2008 1:55 PM PDT
Like rabid dogs, the democrat misogynists are attacking yet another woman with the same savagery they used on Hillary.

It only shows that the loony-left has NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE to OFFER - just smears and hysterical mud-slinging.

The "God D@#! America" crowd is as pathetic as it gets.
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by eggy1620 September 3, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
Talkingham, as I stated to you on another article%u2019s board, Down Syndrome is not caused by anything prenatally. It is caused by a defective egg. Stop grasping at straws that aren%u2019t there. Legit accusation would be that she decided to conceive at an advanced age.
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by bluestardad September 3, 2008 3:51 PM PDT
WONT CARRY 4 STATES!

AMERICA HAS FOUND THEM OUT!
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by talkingham September 3, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
I didn''t say Down syndrome was caused by her obviously inconsiderate prenatal behavior but certainly at this stage while they are calling it Down syndrome the child may have multiple disabilities some of which could be caused by not eating properly, drinking and other insults due to inconsiderate behavior to the child in her womb. I specifically noted that CP is extremely high in premies.

We also have to count on this supposed diagnosis of the child but no access to medical records that demonstrate improper activity during pregnancy. In fact, I wonder if Palin is going to release her medical records like other candidates in line for the presidency. After all, she just had the baby 5 months ago and could be suffering from post partum depression as well. No straws, just wondering aloud, which of course should not be permitted about Republicans of course.

No straws here, only a woman so intent on dominating politics that it seems she may have neglected important aspects of family life including instructing her daughter on preventing unwanted pregnancies while still in high school.
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by im4honesty September 3, 2008 5:12 PM PDT
It''s high time we stopped talking about pro-choice and pro-life and call this what is... an attempt by one element of society to force their beliefs on the rest of the population. The answer is really very simple, if you believe abortion is wrong, DON''T HAVE ONE!! You have absolutely no right, however, to tell others they must also believe as you do. That''s the stuff the Taliban is made of.
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by September 3, 2008 6:15 PM PDT
This is the hypocrisy that is the Republican Party. No one really cares whether the kid plays hockey or uses intemperate language. What one actually laments is that those who tell others how to live and what values to have are living proof of their own lies. We are tired of a system that keeps producing these people election after election. We want something better.
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by dashortround September 3, 2008 7:49 PM PDT

The message from the Christian fundamentalists is loud and clear: it''s okay for kids to have underage, unprotected pre-marital s*e*x*!

If they get knocked up they will instantly be not just forgiven, but lovingly embraced!

In fact, it''s downright cool! If Bristol Palin can do it, and everybody says that''s so wonderful, then it MUST be okay!

Are you listening, young adults? It''s Party Time!!!

Congrats to the Christian fundamentalists for finally moving into the 21st century!
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by ioweign September 3, 2008 10:12 PM PDT
Right, noboma is going to cut taxes and increase programs? Where does the money come from? Oh, maybe he is only going to cut taxes for those on welfare. Lets see, Palin has run a town, and a state, submitting budgets and enforcing ethics; noboma has been really busy on his very first incomplete term not making any decisions nor voting in congress, promises reform yet has not nothing to forward that in his own party, but it makes a pretty speech. Just how can noboma be an effective president with children? Yep very experienced, I hope she goes far.

Posted by msgtsteve at 11:52 AM : Sep 03, 2008

So you want to cut those funds to VA Hospitals...

So lets scuttle the New GI bill...

After all, McCain and Bush didn''t want them anyway...
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by ajmarine111 September 3, 2008 10:38 PM PDT

So lets scuttle the New GI bill...

After all, McCain and Bush didn''''''''t want them anyway...

Posted by IOWEIGN

they havent figured out yet how to get that money to Dubai

Posted by ainttaken at 10:15 PM : Sep 03, 2008



There''s a reason for everything.



Saying he takes "a back seat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans," McCain said Webb''s bill would be a disincentive for service members to become noncommissioned officers, which he called "the backbone of all the services."

"In my life, I have learned more from noncommissioned officers I have known and served with than anyone else outside my family," McCain said at a Memorial Day event in Albuquerque.

"They are very hard to replace. Encouraging people to choose to not become noncommissioned officers would hurt the military and our country very badly."

McCain, along with Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Richard Burr of North Carolina, has introduced an alternative bill that would increase education benefits on a sliding scale based on an individual''s years of service. McCain argues his bill would have a smaller impact on retention rates than the legislation that the Senate passed.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/26/mccain/
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by dashortround September 4, 2008 12:47 AM PDT

A mere 18 months in her very FIRST State-level (not even Federal-level) office is NOT enough experience for a VP.

Sorry.

Only two years ago Palin was just the Mayor of a tiny little village of 5,000 people in a very remote state.

She got her very first U.S. Passport just last summer -- prior to that she''''s never even traveled outside the U.S.!

Let me repeat that: before last year she had never even traveled outside the US!

To put her in as #2 to the oldest candidate in history, who''''s already fighting cancer, is reckless in the extreme.
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by dashortround September 4, 2008 1:24 AM PDT
Republicans in Palin''s home state, Alaska, had mixed reactions to the news. Alaska State Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican, remarked, "She''s not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?".

Larry Persily, a Palin staffer, and Jim Whitaker, the Republican mayor of Fairbanks, indicated their support of Palin as Governor, but questioned whether she was ready to serve as vice president.

Republican Gail Phillips, a former Speaker in the Alaska House of Representatives, questioned whether McCain had done any vetting of Palin, noting "I started calling around and asking, and I have not been able to find one person [in Alaska] that was called. I called 30 to 40 people, political leaders, business leaders, community leaders. Not one of them had heard."
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by dashortround September 4, 2008 1:47 AM PDT

Palin is just another "pretty face" with absolutely no substance - your typical GOP candidate.

18 months into her very first State-level job - no national or international experience at all.

Two years ago she was just the Mayor of Moosejaw, Alaska (pop. 5,470) and nothing more.
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by dashortround September 4, 2008 2:33 AM PDT


Only 2 years ago, Palin was only the "Mayor" of tiny little Wasilla, Alaska (population 5,470).

If SHE can be VP, then any "Mayor" of any town of 5,000 or more can be the next GOP VP choice!

LOL...
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by carlylaine September 4, 2008 5:12 AM PDT
Palin is just another "pretty face" with absolutely no substance - your typical GOP candidate.

18 months into her very first State-level job - no national or international experience at all.

Two years ago she was just the Mayor of Moosejaw, Alaska (pop. 5,470) and nothing more.


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Posted by DaShortRound at 01:47 AM : Sep 04, 2008
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Thank you for saying the GOP candidate for VP is ''just another pretty face.'' I know you said that from some experience, at least, visually...because them guys on the left like Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, Michael Moore are down-right dog-shat ugly.

Oh there''s substance and lots of it.
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by dashortround September 4, 2008 6:01 AM PDT

Sarah Palin is just as retarded as her daughter''s son "Trig" is.

It just runs in the [female] family genes.



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by kazoodan September 4, 2008 6:09 AM PDT
Oh there''''s substance and lots of it.

Posted by CarlyLaine at 05:12 AM : Sep 04, 2008

And you can probably fill Grandpa Mcain''s Depends with it.
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by dashortround September 4, 2008 6:40 AM PDT
Sarah, why did you let that fat, unemployed seventeen year-old Democratic pig-child bang your kid?

You were never home, Sarah? Were you too busy being too much of a political big-wig? Were you chasing your own power trip, and didn''''t notice who was *s*c*r *e*w*i*n*g your kid?

BAD MOMMA! Stay home! Take care of your own kids before you presume to tell the rest of us how we should take care of ours!

Sarah, you say Govmint should stay out of our business - but Sarah, you want to stick your big fat religious nose in OUR business! What gives with that paradox, Sarah? We can''''t talk about your family, but you can dictate to us about ours? BAD grrl, Sarah! Unfair!, just like Bush and just like McSame.

We just can''''t trust you to be honest anymore Sarah.

Sarah, you are soooo two-faced!
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by petesis September 4, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
I thought her speech had more substance than Giuliani or Romney or Huckaby, but that is not saying alot. She spouted alot of kind of liberal ideas about building roads and infrastructure projects. Of course the people she works for have no intention of letting her enact her ideas. She is just a gimmick trick play to keep the GOP in power. I pray it doesn''t work. Perhaps Sarah can come over to the Democrats. She is certainly a good speaker if only she had something worthwhile to hear.
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