Aug. 29, 2008

Not The Obama We Know

National Review: An effective, Dishonest Speech

  • Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., gives his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention at Invesco Field at Mile High in Denver Thursday, Aug. 28, 2008. Photo

    Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., gives his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention at Invesco Field at Mile High in Denver Thursday, Aug. 28, 2008.  (AP)

(National Review Online)  This column was written by Ramesh Ponnuru.
Everyone knew that Barack Obama can give a good speech, and he did just that tonight. The Obama we heard from was an attractive figure. Too bad he doesn’t exist.

The speech was very well designed to achieve its many political objectives. Obama worked hard to express his identification with ordinary Americans - simultaneously countering the perceptions that he is a vapid celebrity and that he is uncomfortable with conventional patriotism. Obama was very careful on this point. There was no Clintonian (or David Brooksian) talk of himself as a globalized man, no reference to Indonesia or even Hawaii. He wisely declined the opportunity to talk a lot about race; doing so could have led him nowhere helpful. If it had not been the anniversary of the “I Have a Dream” speech, perhaps he would not have alluded to it at all.

He tied McCain to Bush and hit both hard on economics, while (naturally) neglecting to mention the rough edges of his own economic policies: the taxes on small business that his health-care plan entail, for example. He didn’t even mention his tax hikes on the rich. And he presented himself as a unifying moderate on social issues.

If all you knew of Obama was what he presented to you in his speech, you would think of him as a typical Democratic politician improved by the addition of a bit more thoughtfulness and idealism than the average representative of the class. You would be amazed to learn of his extremely close relationship to a radical anti-American preacher; or that he has followed a no-enemies-to-the-left approach to politics that put him in the company of an unrepentant terrorist. You would not suspect that he favors taxpayer-funded abortion or drivers’ licenses for illegal immigrants. You would not realize that he has crossed party lines far less often than McCain. You would not imagine that he had ever voted against funding for troops in war zones. It would not cross your mind that this denouncer of hardball, self-interested politics might be having his campaign intimidate reporters out of looking into his record.

Obama was less successful in making the case for himself on foreign policy, but no less dishonest. He did not acknowledge the success or even the existence of the surge. He presented McCain as the lone holdout against a consensus on withdrawal from Iraq that includes President Bush. If he had had his way, we would have been out of Iraq a long time ago and the country would be in far worse shape - but by presenting a timeline of the Iraq debate that excludes the last two years, he kept all but the most attentive listeners from noticing.

The senator argued that we should be able to disagree on political issues without questioning each other’s character. True. But he concludes that we should therefore ignore the evidence that he has, in fact, adopted the foreign-policy positions he has for political reasons. He acts as though he is being gracious by not leveling a like charge against McCain. But it is no concession to declare off limits an accusation that applies to you and not your opponent.

I am not sure who the real Barack Obama is. I do not believe that I saw him Thursday night.


By Ramesh Ponnuru
Reprinted with permission from National Review Online.



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by rhess45 August 29, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
What a bunch of tripe, Ramesh! You''re not sure of who the real Barack Obama is because you don''t want to know. Just as the Senator said in his speech, it''ll all be about the "little issues" for you and your ilk because you know you have a candidate who can''t possibly inspire the American people to do better and be better as will President Obama and I''m sure that frightens you to death! Can''t wait to see and hear what the Republicans will be promising that will actually help the citizenry of this great country. Methinks their bank account is empty on that score. Bring on the debates!

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by dubya_luvr August 29, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
As usual, the NRO vomits more one-sided garbage. Isn''t it odd they''ve never hit McCain for his flip-flops, dodges and outright lies?
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by horse3farm August 29, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
I got some of the same impressions when watching the speech. rhess45: You think you know the real Obama, but you don''t want to know the real Obama.
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by riterzbloc August 29, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
This article was pitiful. explain Obama''s close relationships...explain McCain''s...

Explain your own, Ramesh.
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by ag006f August 29, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
There was little in last night''s speech that I haven''t heard from Obama previously. This was exactly the Obama I know. Perhaps you haven''t been paying close enough attention over the past year...
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by mrtutto August 29, 2008 10:53 AM PDT
Ramesh the hack.... you just can''t hide your Ultra Conservative bias..... That''s OK because the media has been in the tank for McCain, while pretending to give Obama more coverage. NOT THIS TIME.... people actually witnessed this one, so you can''t rewrite history.
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by ubrew12 August 29, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
Do magazines like ''The Nation'' just not do Opinion pieces anymore?

Why an unbroken litany of extreme rightwing trash posing as thought from the NRO? Where''s the balance? Is it supposed to be NPR? (LOL)

I concluded long ago that the owners of NRO aren''t even American, they are so opposed to the furtherance of this country, so anxious to see it bankrupt itself securing other peoples oil-fields. If CBSnews continues to allow them to dominate their opinion pages, I may have to conclude the same of CBSnews.
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by ronjacobs2 August 29, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
Why don''t you make it clear to your readers that the author of this piece (and the magazine it come from) is an ultra-conservative journal that supports George Bush and John McCain. The way it is set up here males it seem like this is from CBS, not the National Review.
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by complexities August 29, 2008 10:59 AM PDT
What a load of bull. If you can''t attack a person on his character, his policies or his judgement, then all that''s left is to deny who he is. What you are saying is that you have no argument left on a substantive level so you come up with the lame argument that you don''t know who he is. It demonstrates that all you have is to grasp at straws. Thankfully, the majority of Americans aren''t so ignorant.
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by hlynn3 August 29, 2008 10:59 AM PDT
Not the obama you know? I wonder, have you looked at his website or watched his speeches or read his books? If you did, it would ALL come back to you. Don''t use your failure to do your due diligence as a platform for claiming, AGAIN, that Obama is some scary changling. More accurately, I think your article should be called "not the kind of politician we are used to." I know its hard but try, really try to move into a new way of thinking. It may hurt your head, but in the end, it will be good for you, and spare the rest of us from having to listen to your wanderings, like a kid in school asking a question the rest of us heard answered 10 minutes ago...
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by tbhallock August 29, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
This is all old news. Get with the times, Ramesh. Also, your subtitle has an error: you should have capitalized "effective." Of course you didn''t get much else right in this piece, so why would you care about grammar?
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by sanjamatt August 29, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
We came to know the real bush and cheney in the last 8 years. So Obama will do just fine. American people want there presidents to be divine like Saint Bush and Saint Cheney dont worry after 8 years when he does all his miracles like Saint Bush and cheney he too will be Saint Obama. Just go vote for him for a change.
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by oshawn3 August 29, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
Laughing here, just like one would expect from the "obamabots", no thought or inclination to really study what he stands for or where he will take you. Absolutely no thought but blind allegiance to what? Pretty words stated so often it becomes a mantra? Change? A new way? Still laughing here, I am not a wildeyed idologue here and BO hasn''t leveled with the American people, he hasn''t given you much but pretty words with no meat. yes, like the commercial for Wendy''s back in 1980, "where''s the beef" BO?
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by Razzl August 29, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
This kind of smear stuff is all the NRO/Murdoch conservatives have left to fight with, so you get treated to the spectacle of Fox "News" rehashing this weatherman/terrorist garbage during broadcasts of the Democratic convention. Obama''s reasonable and plausible explanation that he simply sat on a committee with Ayers should have been the end of it, but when the NRO neocons have no further intellectual cases to make in defense of McCain then sliming Obama is all that men without honor have left in their arsenal...
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by darioch August 29, 2008 11:07 AM PDT
This article is treading thin ice. It is perilously close to being a textbook example of libelous defamation of character. Be careful, Ramesh Ponnuru, or you may end up with more than a few angry Barack fans. You may end up in court.
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKane.
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by traitorbush August 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
HI! I''M GEORGE BUSH. I''M THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA AND I''M A TRAITOR. WHEN DUTY CALLED DURING VIETNAM I CUT AND RAN. JOHN MCCAIN IS MY CANIDATE. HE FOLLOWS LOCK STEP WITH MY LIES LIKE A GOOD SHEEP. HE WILL BE A GOOD PRESIDENT. HE WILL DESTROY THIS COUNTRY AND FINISH THE JOB I COULDN''T DO. TAKE IT FROM A TRAITOR. THIS TRAITOR SUPPORTS SENILE JOHN MCCAIN. ANY REPUBLICAN THAT DOES NOT FOLLOW MY TRAITOR LEAD IS AN IDIOT REPUBLICAN. ALL TRAITORS MUST VOTE FOR MCCAIN.
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by darioch August 29, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
This article is treading thin ice. It is perilously close to being a textbook example of libelous defamation of character. Be careful, Ramesh Ponnuru, or you may end up with more than a few angry Barack fans. You may end up in court.
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by pigsknpontif August 29, 2008 11:10 AM PDT

What rubbish. This is the kind of fear-mongering nonsense that keeps America from debating real issues during a presidential campaign.

The Republican campaign resorts to misinformation and personal slander, because they don''t have enough substance to offer. They have been doing it for so long, they think it is acceptable behavior in a presidential campaign. It is not, and should not be condoned. If McCain was truly honorable, he wouldn''t go along with this.

Why leave your country''s future in the hands of people who don''t care what they do so long as they get elected? They''ll not care what they do when they are in power as well. Case in point. The last 8 years.

The Republicans can''t defend their past. They can''t present a credible argument for the future. I see no reason to put the country in their hands for another 4 years.




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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
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by mike18761 August 29, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
First of all, this is not from CBS. Please read the source before commenting.

Secondly, it states clearly, "Home ; Opinion". This is an opinion. It is followed by, "NRO - America''s Premier Site for Conservative News, Analysis, and Opinion." Analysis, by definition, presupposes neutrality.

Read critically, as that is your responsibility.

Thirdly, the line of "An effective, DISHONEST speech" preamble requires burden of proof. None was given. It is opinion.

Let them know that you are not stupid.

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
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by biswababu August 29, 2008 11:14 AM PDT
I don''t know much about "Ramesh" or cbsnews.com, but it must be one of those WWF type.
Ramesh, don%u2019t think that American people are a bunch of fools and they would believe what YOU take out of the Obama speech. Millions of people watched what Obama had to say yesterday and let their judgments to decide what it was all about. You are a joke
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:14 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
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by gboas August 29, 2008 11:14 AM PDT
Why would CBS News allow such Article? It does not reflect what we saw at all. It is disrepectuful to its readers.

Did you know he wrote the book entitled: "The Party of Death: The Democrats, the Media, the Courts, and the Disregard for Human Life".

Obama speech is everything he stands for and it is consistent with all of his previous ones. It was genuine and powerful. It moved America.

And the article called it dishonest? Get a life Mr. Ramesh.
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by tobyjoyce1 August 29, 2008 11:15 AM PDT
It''s true: this is a load of bull.

When the Republicans attack the Democrats, the corporate media repeat and duplicate the attacks as infinitum. Remember the brainless discussion about the Greek columns earlier this week? How could any serious news outlet repeat that drivel?

But when the Democrats attack the Republicans, the corporate media .... attack the Democrats. Its for being dishonest, mean to poor old John McCain, going the low road etc.

Tune in to the Republican convention next week to hear personal, hateful, hurtful, low remarks about the Democratic candidates. And I promise you they will repeated "in a neutral way" on this page, without calling them what they are. And I promise you the Republican will be presented as clean-living, patriotic, upstanding Americans, without any serious discussion about where they want to take America.
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by m47kt0mpk1n5 August 29, 2008 11:15 AM PDT
Does the National Reviewer agree with McCain''s advisors, that Americans are winers, and that the recession is purely mental, or that the middle class are people that make less than 5 mil a year? Barrak Obama represents the changes that everyday Americans want and deserve. The National Reviewer represents the scared $5 million dollar upper class/the 5% of American that will be paying more taxes. You know exactly who Barrak is! I am not fooled by CBS'' political motivation for this article, but I am disappointed. SHAME ON YOU CBS & SHAME ON NRO.
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
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by darioch August 29, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
This article is treading thin ice. It is perilously close to being a textbook example of libelous defamation of character. Be careful, Ramesh Ponnuru, or you may end up with more than a few angry Barack fans. You may end up in court.
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by mike18761 August 29, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
First of all, this is not from CBS. Please read the source before commenting.

Secondly, it states clearly, "Home ; Opinion". This is an opinion. It is followed by, "NRO - America''s Premier Site for Conservative News, Analysis, and Opinion." Analysis, by definition, presupposes neutrality.

Read critically, as that is your responsibility.

Thirdly, the line of "An effective, DISHONEST speech" preamble requires burden of proof. None was given. It is opinion.

Let them know that you are not stupid.

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
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by PC Fixer August 29, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
Can''t attack Obama''s Character, Policies or Judgement?

I can''t think of another candidate in recent history who is EASIER to attack on all 3 fronts!!

Character: A liar, flip-flopper, willing to throw his own grandmother under the bus for political expediency?

Policies: Further left than Pelosi, Reed, ACLU or NARAL?

Judgement: Friends with unrepentant terrorist? 20 years in Wright''s church? Rezko?

And by the way, IS he eligible to hold office? Didn''t his Indonesian Citizenship (Indonesia did not permit Dual Citizenship) cause him to forfeit his US Citizenship?
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:21 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:22 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
...I have been trying to get this published, but you are temporarily disabled. ''Wonder why?
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by mike18761 August 29, 2008 11:22 AM PDT
Read critically. This is your responsibility.

The NRO is, "America''s Premier Site for Conservative News, Analysis, and OPINION."
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by suryamon August 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
Why should Obama compliment the troop surge when his point is that there was no true reason for this war and hence should end as soon as possible?
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by August 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
It''s amusing that for some reason you argue that Barack is vaccuous with no specific policies or solutions. But when he presents you with specifics and approaches to solve the problems, you some how "know" that all the specifics he laid out were not his positions.

So at your convenience, you either claim to never have been told Barack''s position, or when told his position you suddenly know that it is not his position.
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by nepst-2009 August 29, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
This article is pure garbage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLfsG8XKWfw
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by komment-2009 August 29, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
Is this CBS or FOX ? It is sad we have to turn to BBC and PBS for real news and analysis. I am sick of peoples opinions and innuendo, in lieu of a real journalistic piece.
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by okeif-2009 August 29, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
I want the 5 minutes I wasted on this out-of-touch, conjectur-ish, and CONTEMPTUOUS "Opinion Article" from the NR...
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by lkengelhart August 29, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
"Obama was less successful in making the case for himself on foreign policy, but no less dishonest."
By Ramesh Ponnuru

The word "dishonest" is libelous.
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by komment-2009 August 29, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
Is this CBS or FOX ? It is sad we have to turn to BBC and PBS for real news and analysis. I am sick of peoples opinions and innuendo, in lieu of a real journalistic piece.
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by traitorbush August 29, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
GOOD SHEEP edeldoug!!!! YOU ARE A GOOD TRAITOR AND A GOOD REPUBLICAN. YOU MUST REPEAT THE LIES. KEEP REPEATING THE LIES. THAT IS WHEN THE DEMOCRATS WILL FALL IN LINE LIKE GOOD TRAITOR REPUBLICAN SHEEP! YOU ARE AN ASSET TO ALL TRAITORS! AS COMMANDER-IN-SHEEP I APPLAUD YOU!
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by seebsfuctup August 29, 2008 11:30 AM PDT
Ramesh Ponnuo''reilly, is 100 years of war in Iraq pro-life? You want to talk about voting against troops? You should check out McNuttjob''s record..How about tabling $322m in safety equipment for our troops?

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00376

Did you know McNuttjob missed 10 out 14 votes on Iraq?

Why''d you leave fox news, Ramesh? It''s time wasted on articles like this that I will regret at the end of my life...Give me my time back.
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by guydiep August 29, 2008 11:32 AM PDT
Hey! ''Obamabot'' here... Whether you choose to believe the article or not the fact remains this is an opinion piece that was reported.
That''s the amazing thing about my canidate, he respects your opinion. He may disagree with it, but he doesn''t make up phrases like''McCainbots''...
Lastly, this Ramesh guy managed to my more undetailed, misleading claims in his 548 word opinion than Obama made in his 42 minute speach last night.
Grats Ramesh, I''m sure you think you''ve done us all a service with this bland unfounded attack. I''m looking forward to your follow up of McCain''s speach next week, where I think we can all assume you''ll have been just as moved as us ''Obamabots'' were last night.

-Guy
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:39 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
...I have been trying to get this published, but you are temporarily disabled. ''Wonder why?
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:40 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
...I have been trying to get this published, but you are temporarily disabled. ''Wonder why?
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:42 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
...I have been trying to get this published, but you are temporarily disabled. ''Wonder why?
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by mrcrewcut August 29, 2008 11:43 AM PDT
This country is so screwed.

John McCain spent 5= years in captivity as a POW in North Vietnam. His first-person account of that harrowing ordeal was published in U.S. News in May 1973.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/01/28/john-mccain-prisoner-of-war-a-first-person-account.html?PageNr=1

Not sure if it looks so good in retrospect. Obama is inexperienced, McCain is nuts. your call.
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by iFooBar August 29, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
This article is so full of crud and FUD that it''s laughable.

Mentioning Ayers? Oh my.. Throwing out names like Rezko and Ayers without telling people who they are and what Obama''s actual connection to these people really are (which is not more than going to a party or supporting a bill for elderly housing) is really damaging to the credibility of the writer. It''s the reason why print newspapers are going down the drain.

How funny - when Abraham Lincoln gave his Gettysburg address all the newspapers said it was terrible as well. This is going to go in the same bucket.
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by mediaspy_nv August 29, 2008 11:45 AM PDT
This blatantly bias story by a corporate media puppet is exactly why we cancelled our satellite programming''s network package, ridding us of an expensive commodity we rarely tuned into. I recommend all you who are sick and tired of mainstream media propaganda do the same.
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by kyihaurora August 29, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
Anyone who has followed Obama''s speeches, read his website, watched the debates, knows his history should not have been surprised. Has the reporter been hiding under the "out of touch" Bush/McCain brain.
This article reflects an unawareness and partisanship unmatched even under the recent scenarios. Obviously, obviously, the old ''scare tactics'' are still being used of "who is he". By now if you do not know who Obama is, you are writing your own aritcles in a very closed and quiet room. So be it, that is what has been going on the last 8 years and why we are tunneled in the problems we are having both at home and abroad. I have never been a die hard democrate. I have voted both parties depending on the person. The candidate for now is
Obama. My FEAR is the other...John McKain.
Who is writing your paycheck these days at CBS? That really seems to be what it is about...not the country or the people anymore.
...I have been trying to get this published, but you are temporarily disabled. ''Wonder why?
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