Calif. Ponders Gay Marriage For Inmates

State's Corrections Department Drafting Guidelines To Conform To New Marriage Laws

(AP)  Now that same-sex couples can get married in California, state prison officials are trying to figure out what that means for gay inmates.

No prisoners so far have sought to arrange weddings with same-sex partners since the state Supreme Court granted same-sex couples the right to wed as of mid-June, according to Michele Kane, spokeswoman for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.

Nonetheless, department lawyers are drafting guidelines to bring the state's 33 adult prisons into compliance with the court's ruling that same-sex couples must be treated the same as opposite-sex couples under the California Constitution, Kane said.

What they have determined so far is that would mean allowing gay inmates to marry someone on the outside, but not a fellow prisoner - the same rules that apply to straight inmates, according to Kane.

"They will have the same marriage rights as other inmates - they will be able to marry non-inmates, but barred from marrying other inmates in prison," she said.

Prison officials were concerned that allowing two men or two women in the same prison to get married would pose novel safety and security concerns, according to Kane.

"For instance, suppose a prisoner finds out another prisoner has money or other assets. They might find themselves coerced into a marriage with a more powerful inmate who might try to lay claim to half their assets," she said.

Department lawyers also are recommending that prison chaplains relinquish the job of performing weddings for inmates once the proposed policies take effect, Kane said. Turning over the rituals to outside officiants would not put chaplains who may oppose same-sex marriage on religious grounds in the position of presiding over some ceremonies and not others, she said.

If approved by the division that oversees adult prisons, the rule prohibiting two inmates from marrying would mirror the prison policy in Massachusetts, the only other U.S. state where same-sex marriage is legal.

Last year, California became the first state to allow conjugal visits and overnight stays for inmates with same-sex partners in the civilian population, Kane said. The department does not keep a tally of how many prisoners have taken advantage of the spousal bonus since then.

The department also does not have a recent count of how many of the 125,000 adults in its custody get married each year. Anecdotally, an average of two weddings each month take place at the medium security prison in Solano that houses just over 6,047 inmates, according to Kane.

Donald Specter, director of the nonprofit Prison Law Office, which monitors the rights of California inmates, said he did not agree that allowing two prisoners of the same sex to marry created special security concerns.

But as long as the guidelines that corrections officials develop apply to all inmates regardless of their sexual orientation, they will be hard to argue with, Specter said.

"The law requires they treat people the same, so that's a good principle to have in mind when they are drafting regulations," he said.

[mensarino]

And every day I hope that we secede from the union----we would be much better off without the back woods mentality of much of the rest of the nation.Better yet,let the south drift away.---proud Californian

[dano_kan]

everyday i hope that california will fall off into the ocean... this is what happens when libs run wild..

[dano_kan]

everyday i hope that california will fall off into the ocean... this is what happens when libs run wild..

[blackyowe]

God help us, this world has gone mad!

[mydiatribe]

swwils == "Love,is love!" ==
Me Thinks Thou don''t know what LOVE is??

[lazareth-2009]

whats going on here

[mjvw2]

Can''t we give California back to Mexico? Please

[swwils]

I guess as long as it doesn''t violate any security within the institutions that there should be no worry.Love,is love!They allow it in the street in California so the inmates shoud have accessability.I have no problem with gay''s in the community.All the people I know that are gay are law biding,productive nice people.Within a penal instituition things might be different.

[mensarino]

All I ever advocated was equal treatment for the inmates---either ALL have the right to marry while in prison or NONE do, period!

[libsluv2spit]

liberals are infamous in catering to the wrong set of people..everytime...

[mensarino]

Lazareth--Well,you''re certainly the expert on prejudice

[lazareth-2009]

mesarino
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Ok, how''s this. They should wipe them all out with extreme prejudice

[mensarino]

Lazareth----You are reprehensible!

[lazareth-2009]

They need to wipe them all out.

[tootall10142]

Chain gangs in texas and oklahoma are made up of well behaved prisoneres , they are given good time credit and all are volunteers.

[tootall10142]

Offical think think this might be a security risk.YOU THINK?

[babooph]

Male female cohabitation stopped in prison,but same *** stuff rampant-must be those Judao Christian values I hear so much about.

[gaye5]

knowhr, I am once again sorry that I miss understood you but perhaps it is the way you put it that is the problem and not me as I didn''t know that you were being cynical... I too am sick of people getting light sentences, we had a case here on OZ where a serial pedophile was not going to be charged because the media had played it up so much that the Judge said that he wouldn''t get a fair trial, and someone rang into a talk back station and said that if he killed this pedophile would he also get let off because there would be much more media coverage on it, which of course was a very good point and of course he would have ended up in jail. Just as one lawyer told me, the law seems to be on the side of the criminal now .... And of course there are pedophile judges and the lawyers know which ones they are and they make sure that their client comes to his court, by delaying it if they don%u2019t get a sympathetic judge. hmmm but of course if you were not a criminal and did something wrong accidently you would end up in jail.. It appears that it is only the criminal that they seem to look after, perhaps because if they get the crim off, the lawyer knows that he will more than likely do it again and the crim will of course come back to the same lawyer and so will all the criminals mates when they get caught, making this lawyer one hell of a packet in the process....

[winslowe1]

Send them to Iran.

[dewbug2]

They should be allowed to be married, with one condition.....that rice must be thrown (at their privates) after the ceremony,just like in a real wedding....but the rice has to be thrown at them with 10 shots each using a double barreled 10 gauge shotgun,replacing the BBs....like to see THAT honeymoon, I would....talk about "tender love", boy!