MLK "Dream" Speech Memories Burn Brightly

Democratic Delegates Who Heard King Speak 45 Years Ago Look To The Promise of Obama

(CBS/ AP)  Seventy-seven-year-old Josie Johnson vividly remembers being part of the crowd when Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech 45 years ago.

Her group stayed inside a church until it was time to march, and she worried that few people would show.

"We thought, 'Oh, it's going to fail,'" Johnson remembers. "Then, of course, when we came out and started marching, there were all of these people coming from every corner of the country."

Johnson, a Democratic delegate from Minnesota, is among at least a half-dozen witnesses to King's speech who will be on hand Thursday in Denver to see Barack Obama accept his party's nomination for president, a huge milestone in the fulfillment of the dream that King sketched out so long ago.

And while those who attended what was called the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom have seen progress for blacks through the years, Obama's journey from community organizer to U.S. senator to the top of his party's presidential ticket was something they hadn't envisioned - at least not so soon.

It is a coincidence that Obama is accepting his party's nomination on the 45th anniversary King's speech, but one that Democrats have been happy to embrace. Convention officials have made a point of highlighting the anniversary and scheduled a special breakfast Thursday to mark the occasion.

Obama was 2-years-old when doctor king shared his dream. At the 2004 Democratic National Convention, Obama burst onto the national scene with a speech that paid homage to King and those who came before him.

"I stand here knowing that my story is part of the larger American story, that I owe a debt to all of those who came before me, and that, in no other country on earth, is my story even possible."

The nomination of a black man for president is something "I never thought I would live to see," said Henry L. Marsh III, 74, a state senator from Richmond, Va. He was there in Washington for King's speech, and will be on hand for Obama's nomination acceptance speech at Invesco Field at Mile High stadium.

Marsh remembers being mesmerized by all of the speakers that day in 1963, but he said King's speech was the "icing on the cake." Standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, King spoke of his dream that one day the descendants of former slaves and former slave owners "will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood" and that his children would "live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

The speech "gave me a different perspective of the struggle I was in," said Marsh, who had been working as a lawyer in Virginia to desegregate courtrooms. "It made me realize that I was part of something much bigger than what I thought before."

While Marsh thinks some of the struggles King talked about continue today, he's proud of how far he and other blacks have come. He remembers sitting on the black side of the courtroom in the early '60s; now he's chairman of the legislative committee that selects judges in Virginia.

"The American system makes an Obama possible," Marsh said.

Lucy Buckner-Watson, a delegate from Inver Grove Heights, Minn., and Barbara Lee, a delegate from Staunton, Va., were teenagers when they marched and heard King's "Dream" speech.

Lee, 60, was the youngest member of a group from Staunton who made the trip on an old bus. "There was a hole in the bus floor and there was a piece of cardboard on the floor that kept flapping up as we rode," she said. "It was a long trip."

Lee remembers the crowd becoming quiet just before King spoke. "When he said that someday we'll all be one, it just stuck in my mind," said Lee, a longtime member of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

From the first time she saw Obama speak, Lee said, she could tell he carried a similar message.

She has a button that says "A Legacy of Hope" with pictures of both King and Obama, and wouldn't miss Obama's acceptance speech for anything.

"This is the most important thing that I've done in my entire life," said Lee, who, like most delegates, paid her own way to Denver. "I'm on Social Security, but I just thought, 'I'm going, even if it takes me 10 years to pay it back.'"

Buckner-Watson (pictured left, with Johnson), who attended the '63 march with a friend while living in Ohio, said she also felt lucky to be a convention delegate this year. But while handing Obama the nomination is important, there's still a race to be won, she said.

"When we leave there we are going to have to keep that energy going. We've got to," said Buckner-Watson, 63. She hopes her 86-year-old father, who has terminal cancer, will live long enough to see Obama win.

"I want him to be aware and to be here on this side of heaven and realize a black man being president. Because he shared with us that he had seen a black man hung," Buckner-Watson said.

"I am so very, very proud of my people," she said. "Although I know a lot have suffered way more than we have, it's like having some kind of arriving."


For a transcript of Dr. King's 1963 "I Have a Dream" speech click here.

[libsluv2spit]

"may a man be voted as president based on his character AND NOT BY THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN"

[barbaraf4]

"It is a coincidence that Obama is accepting his party''s nomination on the 45th anniversary King''s speech, but one that Democrats have been happy to embrace."
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It is not a coincidence. It was planned down to the smallest detail. It is a PR dream come true.

[u-r-right]

Meanwhile, King''s kids are battling each other for da MONEY!

[fsw3]

Barack Obama has more character than just about anyone in this nation. It is a tribute to the work of Dr. King that such a good and decent man can now be president of the United States. Imagine all the good men who could have been president in the past but were denied because of the color of their skin. This is a day to rejoice!

"may a ""person"" be voted on his/her ability to lead and not based on his/her color or character.....

[libsluv2spit]

underall this funfare and fireworks..i forgot..

"why is barack a better president again?"

[libsluv2spit]

Imagine all the good men who could have been president in the past but were denied because of the color of their skin. This is a day to rejoice!

Posted by FSW3 at 09:17 AM : Aug 28, 2008
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the last black man to run for president was al shaprton..what was it again you said about denial??

[u-r-right]

I''m amazed, you never hear about Obama''s white side. Obama himself hardly ever references it. Yet, it was his white side that raised him, fed him, gave him a good home.

Obama''s going to make history! Even though it''s a watered down version, right?

[fsw3]

There were many men besides Al Sharpton who have run for president but there were men who never got on the ballot. Imagine Frederick Douglas, W.E.B. Dubois, A.Phillip Randolph, Paul Robeson, Thurgood Marshall, Barbara Jordan, and countless others. All never considered due to the color of their skin. Would George W. Bush have been considered if he were not the white son of a wealthy former president?

[u-r-right]

Imagine all the good men who could have been president in the past but were denied because of the color of their skin. This is a day to rejoice!

Posted by FSW3 at 09:17 AM : Aug 28, 2008

HA-HA! You must be joking. If Sharpton or Jackson became president, we''d all be in painted faces and loin cloths right now, dancing around a fire to summon the gods for prosperity and food.

[fsw3]

It appears on this great anniversary, and one this historic day, that we have not defeated racism. The talk of loin cloths and dancing around fires shows that some are still creatures of the horrid and racist past. Such a shame. Africans were mighty rulers when many Europeans lived in caves. White skin does not make one superior and dark skin does not make one inferior. Do I really have to say this in the eighth year of the 21st century?

[u-r-right]

It appears on this great anniversary, and one this historic day, that we have not defeated racism. The talk of loin cloths and dancing around fires shows that some are still creatures of the horrid and racist past. Such a shame. Africans were mighty rulers when many Europeans lived in caves. White skin does not make one superior and dark skin does not make one inferior. Do I really have to say this in the eighth year of the 21st century?

Posted by FSW3 at 09:48 AM : Aug 28, 2008

Lighten up. It''s all black and white to you. As long as the black proudly comes first, right?

As far as the loin cloth comment. You''re right, not everyone would be dancing around the fire. Sharpton and/or Jackson wouldn''t be. They would be living in the finest palace, sitting on a golden throne while the rest of us danced.

[valhalla14]

MLK the carpet bagger did nothing for my people, just a mouthpiece for the uneducated and lazy.

January 15 is now JER Day.

[barbaraf4]

"It is a tribute to the work of Dr. King that such a good and decent man can now be president of the United States. Imagine all the good men who could have been president in the past but were denied because of the color of their skin."
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No, it is a tribute to his white mother, white grandparents and extended white family who loved, raised, fed, sheltered and educated him. This is the same family he rarely mentions; however his week in Hawaii was spent visiting.

[jackdems]

HEARS A FUTURE GLIMPSE OF LORD OBAMA PRESIDENCY.



Someone needs to tell Obama we have freedom of speech still in america, he isnt president yet!


%u201CHaving failed in its attempts to get our legal, factual and fully-supported ad off the air, Barack Obama%u2019s campaign now wants to put our donors in prison for exercising their right to free speech," said Ed Martin, American Issues Project%u2019s president. %u201CThese over-the-top bullying tactics are reminiscent of the kind of censorship one would see in a Stalinist dictatorship, with the only difference being that those guys generally had to wait until they were in power to throw people who disagreed with them into jail.%u201D

In addition to two letters sent to the Department of Justice asking the government to investigate American Issues Project, its officers, board of directors, and donors, the Obama campaign has been contacting stations running American Issues Project%u2019s ad in an unsuccessful attempt to compel them to pull the spot. With no success on either front, the campaign has also begun running its own ad in response. Notably, this ad fails to dispute a single fact in the American Issues Project%u2019s initial ad.

[fsw3]

u r right, I have pointed out many others who had dark skin who would have made great presidents and you come back with Sharpton and Jackson. These men had no real chance of being president and ran primarily symbolic campaigns. Meanwhile, the likes of BUSH II, are elevated to the office of president with no other qualification than their privileged birth. How could anyone look at the history of this nation and come up with the conclusion that somehow African-Americans have been in a privileged class?

[credibility2]

I''m sure MLK didn''t have in mind when he gave his speech that equality translates to having unqualified individuals on the same landscape as those who are qualified. True equality is based on criteria of equal proportion, not disproportion, which is now the legacy of the Dems elevating Obama to something he hasn''t any right to have at this time in history. He has great potential, but that isn''t parity with experience and qualifications. Biden strained last evening trying to put out some equalizers on Obama''s puny resume and track record in the US Senate. Obama isn''t the miracle wonder Biden made him out to be in last evening''s speech. Shame on the Dems for perpetuating this hoax and fraud.

[skyk-2009]

How could anyone look at the history of this nation and come up with the conclusion that somehow African-Americans have been in a privileged class?

Posted by FSW3 at 10:00 AM : Aug 28, 2008

Those of us Born and Raised in the South know the answer to that question. It''s RACISM plain and simple. You see here in the South Blacks were treated as second class citizens for as long as anyone could remember. Along came the Civil Rights Act and what looked like a War in our streets when King was Killed. The Blacks had suffered centuries of being denied even a chance at jobs and position that Whites gained at birth. There had to be a solution found, a peace treaty if you will. Some of us who were involved in the Movement felt there should be trials, like the one''s used with the Nazi''s, to right the wrongs. Out of that debate though came what we have today. Now the son''s and daughters of those same whites who denied those blacks even a CHANCE at a fair shake, say they shouldn''t be picked on because their fathers were evil and wicked. Thus the line you posted works and works well.

[fsw3]

Creditbility2, President George W. Bush, was not qualified to be president and stole the election. This is okay with many because he is a rich white man. Talk about affirmitive action.

[u-r-right]

Posted by FSW3 at 10:00 AM : Aug 28, 2008

I completely agree with you on the whole Bush II comment. I believe his daddy never should have became president as well.

It''s a shame that to become president today, you have to have millions upon millions of dollars.

As far as a black president, I believe Sharpton and Jackson ran the most prominent and publicized campaigns out of all the others you have mentioned. And as we both know, these two are a poor representation of the black race.

And again, I must mention. Obama is half white.

[skyk-2009]

HA-HA! You must be joking. If Sharpton or Jackson became president, we''''d all be in painted faces and loin cloths right now, dancing around a fire to summon the gods for prosperity and food.

Posted by u-r-right at 09:45 AM : Aug 28, 2008

I hate to break this to you my friend but we HAVE worst than that in the White House as we speak. HE LIED to our families and Killed Thousands of our best and brightest in a War that meant NOTHING, all the while allowing our enemy to escape into a safe haven HE created?? Even IF you knew what you were talking about, which you don''t, they can''t even come close to Bush... NOT EVEN CLOSE!!

[skyk-2009]

MLK the carpet bagger did nothing for my people, just a mouthpiece for the uneducated and lazy.

January 15 is now JER Day.

Posted by Valhalla14 at 09:54 AM : Aug 28, 2008

Now Sparky I happened to have grown up during that period. EVERY time I walk into a McDonald''s, step in Line behind some Black Person, I realize just how big a LIAR you people are. MY GOD!! Do you have ANY idea what these people were being treated like BEFORE MLK and the Movement he started. It''s so sad to see these ignorant people post... Honestly this poor man hasn''t the intelligence of a first grader!!

[valhalla14]

%u201CHaving failed in its attempts to get our legal, factual and fully-supported ad off the air, Barack Obama%u2019s campaign now wants to put our donors in prison for exercising their right to free speech," said Ed Martin, American Issues Project%u2019s president. %u201CThese over-the-top bullying tactics are reminiscent of the kind of censorship one would see in a Stalinist dictatorship, with the only difference being that those guys generally had to wait until they were in power to throw people who disagreed with them into jail.%u201D

Prime example what this Neo-Marxist is going to do, be careful what you wish for...

[credibility2]

To FSW3: Never said Bush was. Why can''t you stay on point? What''s the matter, did my truthful comments hit one of your biased raw nerves? Just because Obama is half a black man doesn''t make him qualified, which is exactly why he is being elevated. When a person doesn''t have the qualifications those around that person will lie to cover-up for that which is lacking. Geraldine Ferraro was correct. Too often those that rely on affirmative action are clueless as to the failings of promoting and elevating those that lack qualifications and experience, which is why there is a chasm between races; one sees entitlement, while the others demands entitlement. That isn''t the way to level the playing field. Again, MLK didn''t envision equality in such a manner as what is transpiring with Obama

[jd2408]

Why is the news media pushing the race card so hard in this election ? Why can''t Senator O''Bama just run for President as any other man would in this country? When the news starts preaching that America is so racist maybe they sould turn the attention on themselves. I know there are racists of all colors in this country but in this day and age maybe O''Bama''s nomination will prove where most of it comes from.

[skyk-2009]

Posted by jackDems at 09:59 AM : Aug 28, 2008

LOL No one is paying any attention to your "HATE him so bad that you will continue the failure we have" line. You have HOURS and then this Brilliant Young Man will step in front of the American People and they will then see you people for the LIAR''s you are. It''s ALWAYS happened to Fascist and it was said by one of the Joe McCarthy Staff before he died, there is NO WAY for fascism to work in America. American''s just will not continue to hate their neighbor because they don''t belong to the "Party". There are people out here who can''t afford to put food on the table and I''m talking about people who were MIDDLE CLASS under Bill Clinton. I just, for some reason, don''t think they are going to fall for your lines anymore. But hey I guess when you have YOUR record you gotta try something huh?

[fsw3]

Credibility2, no you are completely wrong, so is Geraldine Ferraro. Barack Obama is one of the most qualified men ever to be our president. His skin color has nothing to do with it. He has shown intelligence, eloqunce and decency. Scores of lesser men have served, Warren G. Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, certainly Richard Nixon are but a few yet no one would deny them the office because of THEIR skin color. Barack Obama will be a great president and lead our nation to even greater glory and we should all be proud.

[u-r-right]

I hate to break this to you my friend but we HAVE worst than that in the White House as we speak. HE LIED to our families and Killed Thousands of our best and brightest in a War that meant NOTHING, all the while allowing our enemy to escape into a safe haven HE created?? Even IF you knew what you were talking about, which you don''''t, they can''''t even come close to Bush... NOT EVEN CLOSE!!


Posted by skyk at 10:10 AM : Aug 28, 2008

So you''re telling me you have it so bad now you think that if Sharpton or Jackson had become president, you would be better off than you are today?

How did you even send this retort? Via smoke signal?

My case is closed....

[valhalla14]

"Now Sparky I happened to have grown up during that period. EVERY time I walk into a McDonald''''s, step in Line behind some Black Person, I realize just how big a LIAR you people are. MY GOD!! Do you have ANY idea what these people were being treated like BEFORE MLK and the Movement he started. It''''s so sad to see these ignorant people post... Honestly this poor man hasn''''t the intelligence of a first grader!! "

Typical liberal attacks against somebodies education/character. Get some new material will ya?
I don''t care what somebodies past struggles were, every culture and nationality has had horrible issues. Rise above, well some groups just can''t and use it as a crutch, one of the democratic parties ideals. Rob the independently wealthy man who EARNED his money and give it to some lazy SOB who waits for the Govt. Check. Another handout, compliments of the democratic party. Your intellect is showing now there Sambo.

[skyk-2009]

Posted by Credibility2 at 10:07 AM : Aug 28, 2008

I have often wondered, as a student of history, what you fascist think the "Qualifications" for the job of President are. According to our history and according to our Constitution we are supposed to select a President from within our ranks. There is NO requirement that the person have been in the Military.. in fact it''s very specific that the CIVILIAN''S Will retain control of the Military. SO I was just wondering what in your poor fascist mind Disqualifies the fine young senator from the state of Illinois. I mean I have sat here and watched as the Arrogance of the Present Leader has driven away EVERY friend we have. I have watched as we were LIED into a War we didn''t have to fight. I have watched as those who attacked us escaped and rebuilt while that war was fought... IF that''s the Qualifications you refer to... NO THANKS!!

[skyk-2009]

Why is the news media pushing the race card so hard in this election ? Why can''''t Senator O''''Bama just run for President as any other man would in this country? When the news starts preaching that America is so racist maybe they sould turn the attention on themselves. I know there are racists of all colors in this country but in this day and age maybe O''''Bama''''s nomination will prove where most of it comes from.

Posted by jd2408 at 10:16 AM : Aug 28, 2008

LOL The FIRST Black Man in US HISTORY to be in this position and we shouldn''t talk about it?? LOL Typical Fascist thinking. Sure we did them wrong but you passed a law forcing us to stop so lets just pretend it didn''t happen? LOL In the Lounge at Work this Morning the topic of conversation was just this. Now I hope you haven''t lost so much of your ability to think for yourself that you would think THEY are part of the Media!! LOL Whew do you need to pick up some education... VERY BADLY!!

[valhalla14]

"Credibility2, no you are completely wrong, so is Geraldine Ferraro. Barack Obama is one of the most qualified men ever to be our president. His skin color has nothing to do with it. He has shown intelligence, eloqunce and decency. Scores of lesser men have served, Warren G. Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, certainly Richard Nixon are but a few yet no one would deny them the office because of THEIR skin color. Barack Obama will be a great president and lead our nation to even greater glory and we should all be proud."

Proud? you have to be effing kidding me! This clown is a walking sack of BS. This guy gives ME nothing to be proud of. But again I''m addressing Libs/neo-maxists, you''d follow a sheep if it told you where to go. By the way, since you wanted to bring race into the discussion, I''ll bite. Name one successful BLACK politician. In my opinion amongst many, many others. Blacks can''t hold a position of responsability without *** something up. Just my .02

[skyk-2009]

So you''''re telling me you have it so bad now you think that if Sharpton or Jackson had become president, you would be better off than you are today?

How did you even send this retort? Via smoke signal?

My case is closed....

Posted by u-r-right at 10:19 AM : Aug 28, 2008

PLEASE take a night course or two... LEARN to READ and LEARN TO UNDERSTAND what you have read. THE point you poor 6th grade drop out is that the REPUBLICAN''s and YOU have put something IN OFFICE, HE IS THERE and is THE WORST!! You are the LAST people on this or any other planet to throw stones at ANYONE... Pretending you know what Jackson or anyone else would have done is simply FASCISM at its worse. THEY never became President, are NOT going to become President but you seek to tarnish the Senator from Illinois with them. It''s VERY basic and has been used on uneducated people, especially in the south, for a very long time.

[jd2408]

Why is the news media pushing the race card so hard in this election ? Why can''''''''t Senator O''''''''Bama just run for President as any other man would in this country? When the news starts preaching that America is so racist maybe they sould turn the attention on themselves. I know there are racists of all colors in this country but in this day and age maybe O''''''''Bama''''''''s nomination will prove where most of it comes from.

Posted by jd2408 at 10:16 AM : Aug 28, 2008

LOL The FIRST Black Man in US HISTORY to be in this position and we shouldn''''t talk about it?? LOL Typical Fascist thinking. Sure we did them wrong but you passed a law forcing us to stop so lets just pretend it didn''''t happen? LOL In the Lounge at Work this Morning the topic of conversation was just this. Now I hope you haven''''t lost so much of your ability to think for yourself that you would think THEY are part of the Media!! LOL Whew do you need to pick up some education... VERY BADLY!!
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You are more then welcome to live in the past if you like just as you are welcome to your own opinoin without being called names. I prefer to live in the now and look forward to the future. Sorry this bothers you so much.

[skyk-2009]

Typical liberal attacks against somebodies education/character. Get some new material will ya?
I don''''t care what somebodies past struggles were, every culture and nationality has had horrible issues. Rise above, well some groups just can''''t and use it as a crutch, one of the democratic parties ideals. Rob the independently wealthy man who EARNED his money and give it to some lazy SOB who waits for the Govt. Check. Another handout, compliments of the democratic party. Your intellect is showing now there Sambo.

Posted by Valhalla14 at 10:20 AM : Aug 28, 2008

Good grief!! I do wish you 4th grade drop outs would try to find a LITTLE Education. I was simply stating to the poster WHY things are as they are. This is typical of Fascist! When someone brings out the facts of history they can''t address that so they attack the person who dares post the facts. I simply told a person who said that MLK did NOTHING for his race by pointing out to them that today they had rights and privilages that they never had before MLK. PLEASE take a night course or two... learn to read and UNDERSTAND the language. PLEASE!!

[skyk-2009]

Proud? you have to be effing kidding me! This clown is a walking sack of BS. This guy gives ME nothing to be proud of. But again I''''m addressing Libs/neo-maxists, you''''d follow a sheep if it told you where to go. By the way, since you wanted to bring race into the discussion, I''''ll bite. Name one successful BLACK politician. In my opinion amongst many, many others. Blacks can''''t hold a position of responsability without *** something up. Just my .02

Posted by Valhalla14 at 10:28 AM : Aug 28, 2008

I think we''ve already figured out that you are an uneducated bigot... you didn''t have to prove it.

[u-r-right]

Posted by skyk at 10:28 AM : Aug 28, 2008

Debating with somebody like you is like talking to a old Victrola. Your needle is stuck and you keep saying the same buzzwords over and over.

I cannot respond to you anymore. It''s pointless and a waste of time. I''m sure others will be amused to pile on top of your drivel though.

[skyk-2009]

You are more then welcome to live in the past if you like just as you are welcome to your own opinoin without being called names. I prefer to live in the now and look forward to the future. Sorry this bothers you so much.

Posted by jd2408 at 10:30 AM : Aug 28, 2008

Bothers me?? It doesn''t Bother me at all. I was simply explaining to someone who obviously lacks the basic education to READ and UNDERSTAND the events of the day, WHY people were excited about the First Black President. It SADDEN''s me that you aren''t proud that this nation has risen to this point... but it doesn''t "Bother me" what so ever. It''s not MY loss.

[skyk-2009]

Debating with somebody like you is like talking to a old Victrola. Your needle is stuck and you keep saying the same buzzwords over and over.

I cannot respond to you anymore. It''''s pointless and a waste of time. I''''m sure others will be amused to pile on top of your drivel though.

Posted by u-r-right at 10:33 AM : Aug 28, 2008

How''s that? I simply put forth HONEST History. It is what it is! For 30 years I''ve studied the Subject, taught it for over 20 now. I''ve never heard any intelligent person call it "Drivel".

[valhalla14]

Good grief!! I do wish you 4th grade drop outs would try to find a LITTLE Education. I was simply stating to the poster WHY things are as they are. This is typical of Fascist! When someone brings out the facts of history they can''''t address that so they attack the person who dares post the facts. I simply told a person who said that MLK did NOTHING for his race by pointing out to them that today they had rights and privilages that they never had before MLK. PLEASE take a night course or two... learn to read and UNDERSTAND the language. PLEASE!!

Learn to read, thats a good one. You have presented zero facts. More attacks. Don''t you effing morons have anything else? I guess your parents never believed in birth control, its called swallowing!..this is funny, your mindless comments fit right with a word called "Truth" in the liberal lexicon called "Libberish". Below, "truth" to a liberal:

Next post...

[valhalla14]

Truth: Those obvious, self-evident principles known to all Liberals which form the basis of their political views. Above debate, these truths serve as an ever present body of dogma for the secular political religion which is Third Way Sociologist Parliamentary Utopianism. Here are a few examples:

1. All people should love and revere each other. Social ill will must be punished.

2. The plight of the Poor is the number one problem in the whole World. Since Capitalism is the root of all social injustice, its profits should be given to the impoverished masses.

3. The Liberal end justifies the means. The glorious goals of International Feminist Sociology trump any criticism of its tactics. A Liberal may commit any crime in the cause of building a better world.

4. The enemies of the Left aren''t just wrong, they''re evil. The crusade of Liberalism is a pious, holy Struggle; it''s The Good Fight, with the Angels on the Democrats'' side and the devils on the Republican side. Anyone who threatens the march of Leftism must be demonized and destroyed. When an angel kills a devil, the saints of Sociology are pleased.

[valhalla14]

5. Truth is whatever the Democrats want it to be. Since they''re always right and everyone else is always wrong, whatever they say is the truth. Reality is fluid, malleable, with layers and textures just waiting to be explored by the creative Liberal in defense and cover-up of their political (and moral) vigilantism. Language is the tool of choice. Politically correct the language and you politically correct the culture. Taxes become "contributions;" Perjury becomes "misleading the court;" Adulterous activity in the Oval Office itself becomes "ministering to a young person" or an "error in judgment." With the right focus-group research, there is no ugly, negative reality that can''t be creatively distorted into a positive Spin for the Liberal cause. Spin becomes Truth when it''s repeated a thousand times.

[valhalla14]

Proud? you have to be effing kidding me! This clown is a walking sack of BS. This guy gives ME nothing to be proud of. But again I''''''''m addressing Libs/neo-maxists, you''''''''d follow a sheep if it told you where to go. By the way, since you wanted to bring race into the discussion, I''''''''ll bite. Name one successful BLACK politician. In my opinion amongst many, many others. Blacks can''''''''t hold a position of responsability without *** something up. Just my .02

Posted by Valhalla14 at 10:28 AM : Aug 28, 2008

I think we''''ve already figured out that you are an uneducated bigot... you didn''''t have to prove it.

Holy S!..wow your such a good judgement on somebodies educational background/character. So tell me, what are the winning lottery numbers tommorrow? since you know so much..Bigot, thats such a big word for you, you get a little red shiny star for your efforts. No more a bigot than your Neo-Marxist Prophet...

[jd2408]

You are more then welcome to live in the past if you like just as you are welcome to your own opinoin without being called names. I prefer to live in the now and look forward to the future. Sorry this bothers you so much.

Posted by jd2408 at 10:30 AM : Aug 28, 2008

Bothers me?? It doesn''''t Bother me at all. I was simply explaining to someone who obviously lacks the basic education to READ and UNDERSTAND the events of the day, WHY people were excited about the First Black President. It SADDEN''''s me that you aren''''t proud that this nation has risen to this point... but it doesn''''t "Bother me" what so ever. It''''s not MY loss.

Posted by skyk at 10:35 AM : Aug 28, 2008
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skyk, reading over your posts shows me there is at least one person in this country that needs to learn manners and how to voice opinoins without being rude. I know this will come as a shock, but you are not the "know" all of the universe. The past is a tool for lessons learned. I feel, only in my opinion, our country needs to move forward taking these lessons learned with us. They should become a normal part of our everyday life. That is just how I see it. You may have received an A in debate class but I would give you an F in manners. Please look up manners in the dictionary, it may help.

[dopeydoper]

I am not a huge fan of Obama, but I could NOT BE HAPPIER that folks of ALL colors have a solid male role model to follow who is not an athlete or a musician. We can only hope and pray there are many more to come. There might just be hope for our country after all. Way to have the guts to be a MAN, Barack.

[tothestars2]

Truths about MLK and the civil rights movement the democrats want to hide.
1. MLK was a republican.
2. since 1854 the republicans have been the party against slavery and civil rights for blacks.
3. democrats passed the jim crow and black codes laws.
4. democrats have fought the passage of every civil rights law from the 1860''s through the 1950''s and 1960''s. cont.

[tothestars2]

5. Republican president Eisenhower appointed Chief Justice Warren to the supreme court which brought about 1954''s Brown vs the Board of Education.
6. As a senator President Kennedy voted against the 1957 civil rights act as did Al Gores dad.
7. Republica John Randolph organized the 1963 march on washington that was opposed by President Kennedy.
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[tothestars2]

8. Democratic senator Robert Byrd, former member of the KKK started by the democratic party, called King a "trouble maker"
9. Republicans fought for and ammended the constitution, 13th ammendment-freedom, 14th ammendment-citizenship, 15th ammendment-right to vote.
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[jd2408]

As an independent I will vote for O''Bama because I feel he is the best choice of the two.

[tothestars2]

10. Republicans started the NAACP and affirmative action at republican president Richard Nixon''s 1969 Philidelphia plan by republican Art Fletcher. This was done to counter Democratic president Wilson who kicked all blacks out of federal government jobs in 1912.

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