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(CBS/AP)  Hillary Rodham Clinton summoned millions of voters who supported her in the primaries to send Barack Obama to the White House Tuesday night, declaring in a Democratic National Convention speech that the man who defeated her "is my candidate and he must be our president."

"We don't have a moment to lose or a vote to spare," the former first lady added in her prime time address. (Watch Clinton's Speech | Text)

The packed convention floor became a sea of white "Hillary" signs as the New York senator strode to the podium.

While her remarks included a full-throated endorsement of Obama, she did not indicate whether she would have her name placed in nomination or seek a formal roll call of the states when the nomination is awarded by delegates on Wednesday night.

Calling herself a "proud supporter of Barack Obama, she dismissed Republican John McCain with a few choice words.

"No way. No how. No McCain," she said, prompting the hall to erupt in cheers. "We don't need four more years... of the last eight years."

"Hillary Clinton did just about everything she needed to do in this speech to help heal what divisions remain in this party," said CBSNews.com senior poltical editor Vaughn Ververs. "She was unequivocal in her support for Obama and critical in her assessment of John McCain and the Republican Party. Barack Obama couldn't have wanted much more." (Read Ververs' analysis of Clinton's speech)

Like other failed candidates at conventions past, Clinton recalled her own quest for the White House.

"You taught me so much, you made me laugh and... you even made me cry," she said to supporters in the Pepsi Center and millions more watching on nationwide television.

"You allowed me to become part of your lives, and you became part of mine."

Clinton attempted to reach out to those voters who supported her in the primaries but are not sold on Obama. In a CBS News/New York Times poll conducted earlier this month, more than 40 percent of Clinton supporters said they would vote for McCain or were undecided.

"I want you to ask yourselves: Were you in this campaign just for me?" she said. She urged them instead to remember Marines who have served their country, single mothers, families barely getting by on minimum wage and other struggling Americans.

"You haven't worked so hard over the last 18 months, or endured the last eight years, to suffer through more failed leadership,"

Despite some delegates' lingering resentment over Clinton's loss, party chairman Howard Dean said earlier the convention was determined to make Obama the nation's 44th president. "There is not a unity problem. If anyone doubts that, wait till you see Hillary Clinton's speech," he said earlier Tuesday.

Meanwhile, fellow Democrats who spoke to the convention delegates ripped into McCain as indifferent to the working class and cozy with big oil.

"If he's the answer, then the question must be ridiculous," New York Gov. David Paterson said of the Republican presidential candidate.

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You haven't worked so hard over the last 18 months, or endured the last eight years, to suffer through more failed leadership.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
By contrast, Obama will "appeal to us not as Republicans or Democrats, but first and foremost as Americans," former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner said in the convention's keynote address. "We need leaders who see our common ground as sacred ground." (Watch Warner's speech | Text)

"Call the roll!" urged Ted Sorensen, a party elder eager to propel Obama toward the White House as the first black president.

Not yet. Obama's formal nomination was set for Wednesday night.

In contrast to many of Tuesday's earlier speeches delivered out of prime time, Warner's remarks dwelt more on a vision of the post-partisan possibilities of an Obama administration than on criticism of McCain and President Bush.

"I know we're at the Democratic National Convention, but if an idea works, it really doesn't matter if it has an 'R' or 'D' next to it," he said.

As keynoter, Warner's task was the same one that Obama - then an Illinois state lawmaker running for the U.S. Senate - used four years ago to launch his astonishing ascent in national politics.

(AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
Obama, meanwhile, campaigned in Missouri Tuesday, slowly making his way toward the convention city - and wasting no opportunity to continue the attack on his opponent, reported CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic.

"I just don't think he gets it. He is out of touch. I don't think he realizes what ordinary American families are going through," Obama said at an overhaul base for American Airlines in Kansas City, Mo. (Read more on Obama's remarks)

It was more of that sentiment - much more - as a parade of speakers criticized McCain at the convention several hundred miles away.

Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said the Republican has voted against "real sex education, voted against affordable family planning. And if elected, John McCain has vowed to appoint Supreme Court justices who will overturn Roe v. Wade," she said, referring to the landmark 1973 case that affirmed women's right to abortion.

Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland focused on economic issues. "While families are losing sleep tonight trying to figure out some way to make their paycheck stretch through one more day, John McCain is sleeping better than ever," he said, recalling that McCain had recently said Americans were better off because of President Bush's policies.

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by jenny1233-2009 August 26, 2008 6:09 PM EDT





How does it feel to side with red-neck mentality ?

How does it feel to be on the side of anti-abortion and know that your Republican president had the chance to change the laws in the first four years of his administration, before the Democrats took over
Congress and the Senate ?

How does it feel to pay for four dollar gas ?

How does it feel to support a war with the lives of our young men that did not need to be fought ?

How does it feel to now vote For John Mc Cain when we have it from his own lips that he voted 90% of the time with George Bush ? I assume he was voting with his heart and best judgment.

John Mc Cain graduated 845 in a class of 849 from the U.S. Naval Academy. It doesn''t seem as though he learned very much.




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by armydog2 August 26, 2008 6:09 PM EDT
I say take the high road and hit him as hard as you can. SHURCH4TRUTH I agree 100% with what you said, thanks for the post.
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by checkthepast August 26, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
"Dems Divided On How To Attack McCain"

The headline says volumes...
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by rosieod4prez August 26, 2008 6:19 PM EDT
"Dems Divided On How To Attack McCain



Note - they aren''t considering how to run their campaign, they are considering how to attack.





And this was the candidate of "change".


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


Obama likes''em stupid.
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by blamegovt August 26, 2008 6:22 PM EDT
jenny1233 - how does it feel to be fooled by your Boy Obama?

How does it feel to side with a hatred mentality ?

How does it feel to be on the side of the party that has no concrete plans for the futuree ?

How does it feel to make a minimum wage?

How does it feel to support a war (Afghanistan) with the lives of our young men that did not need to be fought ?

How does it feel to now vote For Barack Obama when we attended a Racist Church for 20 Years?

How does it feel to be thrown under the bus (such as Obama pastor)?

Get a clue loser
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by broadwayphi August 26, 2008 6:23 PM EDT
The headline says volumes...
-Posted by checkthepast at 03:15 PM : Aug 26, 2008

Hmm. Try reading the articles. You learn more.


OBAMA 08!
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by broadwayphi August 26, 2008 6:24 PM EDT
Yes, feelings are bruised. But unless you want a president who voted with Bush NINETY FIVE PERCENT of the time, you need to get over it, suck it up and dance with the one who brung ya.

In this case, that would be Barack Obama.

Otherwise, it''s McBush.

Unthinkable.
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by erasmus81 August 26, 2008 6:25 PM EDT
"Dems Divided On How To Attack McCain"

Sometimes you have to get down and dirty, and I don''t think Obama is capable of doing that. Makes you wonder what he''ll be like in times of trouble.
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by Syndicate August 26, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
I think McCain is just waiting for the Democrats to get nasty. Obama has said so many conflicting things and has been involved with some real scum bags. I think the republicans are just waiting for Obama to cross the line then he''s gonna get it. In the infamous words of Bush Bring it on.
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by mbcsmith August 26, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
Posted by rdp842003 at 03:24 PM : Aug 26, 2008



LIBS just don''t get it!
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by blamegovt August 26, 2008 6:34 PM EDT
John McCain surely could not name how many houses he owned, but Barack Obama cannot even mention his POOR brother living in Africa on $1 a day.
That is PATHETIC.
CAN BARACK HELP A BROTHER OUT? Great Bumper Sticker.
Just like Obamas brother, the Stupid Americans voting for this false character will be thrown under the bus also.
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by mbcsmith August 26, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
"Dems Divided On How To Attack McCain"

The headline says volumes...


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Posted by checkthepast at 03:15 PM : Aug 26, 2008




Apparently "Change" meant "change Barry''s mind daily"
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by blamegovt August 26, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
jh6379 - Good Socialist
1. Name Calling
2. Play the Race Card
3. Denial.
It must really suck thinking everyone that does not vote for your boy Obama is a Racist.
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by lawyertom1 August 26, 2008 6:36 PM EDT
This is neither rocket science nor complex. First, on the foreign policy front, simply note that the very policies that Barack has advocated, and for which he was attacked, have been adopted by the Bush Administration and to a large extent by McCain [e.g., more troops for Afganistan, time table for Iraq, negotiating with Iran]. Second, his total disconnect from the average folk; his rich guy, country club orientation [the economy... this I know from nothing]. Third, his numerous flip flops on all kinds of issues [e.g., taxes, immigration, abortion]. Fourth, if you want to show he is an idiot, call up a couple of examples [e.g., restart the draft, don''t know Shia from Sunni, not sure how many houses I have]. Unlike McCann, Barack does not have to lie, cheat, and steal to try and make a point. Just lay out the facts, man, nothing but the facts.
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by jenny1233-2009 August 26, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
How does it feel to side with red-neck mentality ?

How does it feel to be on the side of anti-abortion and know that your Republican president had the chance to change the laws in the first four years of his administration, before the Democrats took over
Congress and the Senate ?

How does it feel to pay for four dollar gas ?

How does it feel to support a war with the lives of our young men that did not need to be fought ?

How does it feel to now vote For John Mc Cain when we have it from his own lips that he voted 90% of the time with George Bush ? I assume he was voting with his heart and best judgment.

John Mc Cain graduated 845 in a class of 849 from the U.S. Naval Academy. It doesn''t seem as though he learned very much.
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by zerato-2009 August 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
The dems have a chance of painting mccain the way they want too on national TV and he is not doing it. When did he decide to take the failed kerry approach to conventions rather than holding mccain accountable for mccains positions on issues..
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by snapper4298 August 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
Dems divided? Wow, really?
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by zerato-2009 August 26, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
Although Bush and McCain have the same position on, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, the %u201Csurge%u201C, talking to Iran, talking to Korea, pro bush tax cuts, failed economic policy, anti GI bill, no Child health care, no health care, immigration, privatizing social security, Columbia free trade, Nafta, Pakistan, offshore drilling, torture, fisa bill, no minimum wage increase, no energy policy, anti pro choice judges, Bush doctrine (attack a country that hasn''t attacked you), no diplomacy for Venezuela and Cuba, do nothing Israel policy, nuclear power, 4 billion dollar fence with Mexico, foreign ownership of ports, no oil policy, mortgage deregulation and amnesty for illegal immigrant, they are not the same. Right ???? Voted bushs way 100% of the time this year
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by mbcsmith August 26, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler

The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No
resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no
understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world
works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real
substance.

He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of
him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African
Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply
proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya. Only a small part of him
is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is
exclusively.

What he isn''t, not a genetic drop of, is ''African-American,'' the descendant
of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn''t a
single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave
owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for
centuries until the British ended it.

Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the
descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.

(cont)
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by zerato-2009 August 26, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
"The fact is that I m different, but the fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush."

John Mccain 2005 - Meet the Press
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by noloyalisti August 26, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
It is time for the Dems to bring out the hammer to crush the Gay Oil Party, the party of death and war and higher (future) taxes.

Expose McCain for his ties to the Keating 5, to industry lobbyists and their ties to fascist regimes. Tie McSame to the fascist United States GOP. Play his speeches of flip-flops. Publicize that he has voted with McBush 95% of the time and they both voted against the GI Bill to support the troops.

AND THEN THEY SHOULD GET REALLY NASTY about the Republicons.
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by mbcsmith August 26, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
"The fact is that I m different, but the fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush."

John Mccain 2005 - Meet the Press


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Posted by zerato at 03:44 PM : Aug 26, 2008



Attaboy john. You tell ''em.
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by broadwayphi August 26, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
Posted by mbcsmith

Guess what, Troll? No cookie for you.

You are damaging the McCbush campaign by demonstrating what idiots his "base" is.

And I do mean base.

No cookie.

Bad troll.

No cookie.
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by zerato-2009 August 26, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
Republican Tax cuts results

Reagan Tax Cut

National debt before Reagan tax Cut $900 Billion
National debt after Reagan Tax Cut $4.5 trillion

Bush tax cuts

National debt before Bush tax cuts $5 trillion
National debt after Bush tax cuts $10 trillion

Mccain/bush tax cuts will add $3 trillion to the national debt according to one Mccain economic adviser. Mccain says he does not know much about economics. Mccain will turn the economy over to phil "A nation of whiners" gramm

Mccain a borrow and spend republican
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by broadwayphi August 26, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
Posted by jh6379

No stealing!

; )))
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by bretster7 August 26, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
Certainly McCon won''''t pick Romney?
I know many who''''d never vote for a mormon

Posted by jh6379



Typical lib hypocricy. The religous bigot was just attacking anyone who dared disagree with Obama as a racist...LOL
Funny no mention on cBS of how a black Obama supporter called a black Hillary supporter an"Uncle Tom"
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by vnveteran72 August 26, 2008 6:48 PM EDT
Pappy is what we call a Target Rich Environment.....
So much to choose from, it''s hard to pick just one....
LMMFAO
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by zerato-2009 August 26, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
Why does McBuzzard always look so angry?

Posted by jh6379

Constipation, not enough fiber in his diet

lol
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by mbcsmith August 26, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
smithy...Rezko doesn''''t mean shiite to me.
Posted by jh6379 at 03:40 PM : Aug 26, 2008



Of course not. LIBS never care about graft and corruption when it''s one of their own.
"cold cash" Jefferson is still in congress.
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by bretster7 August 26, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
poste d by broadwayphi,
You are damaging the McCbush campaign by demonstrating what idiots his "base" is.



Isn''t it "what idiots his base are", not is?
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by broadwayphi August 26, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
Jack Abramoff ring a bell, trolls?

The Obamas BOUGHT TEN FEET OF PROPERTY from Rezko. Dumb? likely.

McCain''s great friend, Jack Abramoff, just raised over a MILLION bucks for his FRIEND, John McCain.

Remember Jack Abramoff? The disgraced G.O.Pee CON MAN and THIEF?

Thought not.
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by zerato-2009 August 26, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
Posted by ddhinnyc at 03:49 PM : Aug 26, 2008

Oh that is comming. barack will look smooth and polished and mccain will look unprepared, constipated, short and will blink 300 times a minute
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by mbcsmith August 26, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
If it comes from Fox Faux News...no one is going to believe it silly neorat!


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Posted by jh6379 at 03:50 PM : Aug 26, 2008



John Edwards does the nasty with some trollip while his wife doies of cancer.


That the kind of Faux news you refer to?
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by broadwayphi August 26, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
Posted by jh6379

TEN!
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by bobnjersey August 26, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
[Note - they aren''''t considering how to run their campaign, they are considering how to attack.]
[Posted by RosieOD4Prez at 03:19 PM : Aug 26, 2008]

they''re considering how to respond to what is nothing but attacks from the right ... which is your specialty.

everyone needs to be good at something.
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by mbcsmith August 26, 2008 6:55 PM EDT

Oh that is comming. barack will look smooth and polished and mccain will look unprepared, constipated, short and will blink 300 times a minute


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Posted by zerato at 03:53 PM : Aug 26, 2008




Funny, Nobama has agreed to ONLY three debates and none of them are town hall settings. Why is Nobama afraid to debate John? Why is he afraid to answer questions from the common man?
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by broadwayphi August 26, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
Posted by jh6379

NO! Not at all.

Thank you, my friend.
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by bretster7 August 26, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
McVain...which is it?

6, 7 or 8 houses?


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Posted by jh6379 at 03:52 PM : Aug 26, 2008



Obama Bin Biden,

How many homeless brothers do you have? 1 , 2 ,how amny?
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by bobnjersey August 26, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
[John Edwards does the nasty with some trollip while his wife doies of cancer. That the kind of Faux news you refer to?]
[Posted by mbcsmith at 03:53 PM : Aug 26, 2008]

is john edwards in the running?

didn''t john mccain do the same thing? what about newt gingrich, didn''t he do the same thing? is faux news discussing that?
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by zerato-2009 August 26, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
Posted by mbcsmith at 03:55 PM : Aug 26, 2008


why does mccain want to run obama campaign. Be careful what you wish for, you just migh get it LMAO
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by nolalou August 26, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
How to attack McCain? How about with this quote:
"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief."--John McCain, May 2001
Now John McCain supports the Bush tax give away for the wealthy, and even promised to make them permanent!
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by realpatriot1 August 26, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
NEWS BREAKING... William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright have a higher approval rating than George Bush.

Why did Johm McCain stay in that Party of Hate for 20 years?
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by jenny1233-2009 August 26, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
The New York Times on Sunday had an article about John Mc Cain''s first wife. She waited five years for him while caring for the children and he was in prison. After John returned she was in an horrendous auto accident and thrown into the snow. Subsequent surgery caused her to lose five inches in height.

John Mc Cain was having an affair for nine months before he was divorced or separated. Isn''t he like John Edwards ? Explain why not.

Cindy Mc Cain tells the story of how they met at a reception. John was chasing her around a banquet table and she thought he was strange. Strange maybe, but married, YES.




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by jmurrieta1 August 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
Attack early and attack often--the policies and the man.
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by tothestars2 August 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
The first words of this aricle says it all. Until the democratic party moves back from the devisive nature of the far left they will never succeed in a country that is 70% in the middle.
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by berniew4 August 26, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
To zerato:: You are correct . Obama cannot answer common questions .. Only scripted ones. His fans,followers,adorers know this and cannot ,will not answer that question. Unless scripted Obama will probably say DUH or ''It is above my pay grade "
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by specialty8 August 26, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
Has Nobama figured out how many states we have yet?Since we have 57 now,thats how many he has visited,I guess we will have to make new flags.I also wonder if Mrs. Nobama is still proud of the USA for the first time or was that just a speech?
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by clovisbuford August 26, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
all the democrats have to do is let the republicans run on their record . Mccain voted with Bush 95% of the time , he supports his economic policies . No need to distort ,just let the republicans own what they have done to this country .Doubled the national debt in 8 yrs, made torture an American value , Mccains advisor gramm passed the legislation that made not only enron possible but the sub prime crisis , torture as an american value, gov.corruption ala abramoff ,no bid contracts ,katrina ,etc. I want to see a Mccain /guilliani ticket . Mccain"4 more bush yrs.noun,verb,POW" Rudy "4 more bush yrs.noun,verb,911"
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by cbs4me3 August 26, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
An attack against John McCain is an attack against Hillary Democrats. Hillary, and Biden too, spoke of Obama''s lack of experience and record of accomplishment to be president. Attacks against John work against the democratic party, not for it.
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by clovisbuford August 26, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
who cares if McCain has a hundred houses.... When did it become wrong or illegal to be successful and have investments and be well off? I prefer someone that was successful in the white house
Posted by stick1771 at 04:19 PM : Aug 26, 2008 so marrying a wealthy heiress is now your definitiuon of success ? wow Iwas thinking like warren buffet or Bill gates , the old fashion way , you earn it , not inhereit it or marry it . as for illegal and bad judgement ,,google the Keating 5
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