Some Shops Reject Same-Sex Wedding Cards

Owners Of Several Idaho Hallmark Stores Won't Sell New Line Catering To Same-Sex Partners

(CBS/AP)  A manager says seven Hallmark greeting card stores in the Treasure Valley will not carry the company's new same-sex marriage cards.

Cassi Jacobsen, an assistant manager for the Jordan's Hallmark store in Nampa's Karcher Mall, says the family that owns the seven area stores has decided against carrying the new line of greeting cards.

She said the owners were out of town and not immediately available for comment.

Hallmark added the cards after California joined Massachusetts as the only U.S. states with legal gay marriage. A handful of other states have recognized same-sex civil unions.

The language inside the cards is neutral, with no mention of wedding or marriage, making them also suitable for a commitment ceremony. Hallmark says the move is a response to consumer demand, not any political pressure.

"It's our goal to be as relevant as possible to as many people as we can," Hallmark spokeswoman Sarah Gronberg Kolell said.

Hallmark says all of its stores can choose whether they want to add the latest offerings.

Reaction to the cards has been mixed.

Idaho Values Alliance Executive Director Bryan Fischer sent out a press release Thursday calling for local-area Hallmark stores not to carry the cards.

"Hallmark, the venerable greeting card company, is doing nationwide what 48 states and the federal government have refused to do, and that is to recognize homosexual marriage," Fischer wrote.

But Delmar Stone of Nampa, executive director of the National Association of Social Workers - Idaho Chapter, called the cards "wonderful."

Jody May-Chang, the Boise editor of the gay rights Web site PrideDEPOT.com, called the decision a bullying tactic.

Hallmark's largest competitor, American Greetings Corp., has no plans to enter the market, saying its current offerings are general enough to speak to a lot of different relationships.

[dmswolves]

MCVet-1

That is very sad to tell your children that people of confused. Apparently you were not brought up to accept EVERYONE!!! no matter who they are. This is why we have problems today, people that have children do not stop judging people how they live. You should tell your children the truth about how the world is round and that they should accept who the person is and not because you do not believe that gay/lesbian people are normal, they pay taxes just like everyone else does, so why not have the same rights as everyone else. All you are doing is keeping your children from living in this world of diverse communities.
Same gender sexual relationships (in my opinion) are confused perverse people with their brains in their pants that either can''''t or won''''t have a normal male/female relationship for who knows what reason (each is individual I''''m sure).

I just tell the kids that some people are confused.

[850Rick]

Whether or not each of us agrees with it is not relevant, rather what is relevant is that these card shops are putting personal belief ahead of what is considered business and a market for that business. Personally I do not agree with same *** marriages, but if it makes them happy and doesn''t infringe on me, I don''t care. If I ran a business that sold cards, to me it would simply be another market I could tap into and make money. I think people need to get over themselves and stop telling others how they should run their lives and concentrate on their own affairs instead.

[truthislife1]

God does''nt change at all. He''s always the same. Your god, however, may sway with everything else.

[fsw3]

If you don''t want to marry a gay person don''t. It''s not your business. Our society is changing, and so is God. Our concepts of God have changed drastically over theyears.

[hologram5]

Every religious group, all of you who are spouting bible...it''''s just so irritating. Do you really believe that the spew is relevant to our existence? No, it isn''''t.

Find your own forum-not here. Knock off the spew.



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Posted by CarlyLaine at 07:05 AM : Aug 27, 2008
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It is called freedom of speech and it is the same thing that lets you speak here. If you don''t like it then you leave...

[carlylaine]

Every religious group, all of you who are spouting bible...it''s just so irritating. Do you really believe that the spew is relevant to our existence? No, it isn''t.

Find your own forum-not here. Knock off the spew.

[longtree-2009]

What''s the big deal, anyway. Marriage is a big joke. If gay marriage is approved in any state, hoping that prostitution will be too!

[andor3]

"Andor3 you are a complete idiot. You know nothing about me and I assure you I am educated and am doing well..."

I repeat: I can see why Hallmarks decision angers gay haters--being marginalized stings, truth hurts. If you choose to be in a group like anti-gay that is small and has little economic clout, then you get the consequences.

It is delightfully ironic to see the anti-gay folks being ignored and marginalized.

[andor3]

"Andor3 you are a complete idiot. You know nothing about me and I assure you I am educated and am doing well..."

I repeat: I can see why Hallmarks decision angers gay haters--being marginalized stings, truth hurts. If you choose to be in a group like anti-gay that is small and has little economic clout, then you get the consequences.

It is delightfully ironic to see the anti-gay folks being ignored and marginalized.

[andor3]

"Andor3 you are a complete idiot. You know nothing about me and I assure you I am educated and am doing well..."

I repeat: I can see why Hallmarks decision angers gay haters--being marginalized stings, truth hurts. If you choose to be in a group like anti-gay that is small and has little economic clout, then you get the consequences.

It is delightfully ironic to see the anti-gay folks being ignored and marginalized.

[andor3]

"Andor3 you are a complete idiot. You know nothing about me and I assure you I am educated and am doing well..."

I repeat: I can see why Hallmarks decision angers gay haters--being marginalized stings, truth hurts. If you choose to be in a group like anti-gay that is small and has little economic clout, then you get the consequences.

It is delightfully ironic to see the anti-gay folks being ignored and marginalized.

[truthislife1]

I believe God has been very patient with our nation. Someday that patience may run out. It did for Rome. It will for us if we Christians do not first turn from our own sin, pray and seek His face first, turn from our own wicked ways. He needs to heal our Christian heart first. That is where He will start, with His own kids.

[cheetah-man7]

I think it''s great that Hallmark has recognized gay men and lesbians. Our world can do a bit more with tolerance and love, rather than the bible-belters who love to hate in the name of God. Bravo, Hallmark!

[truthislife1]

It is amazing to me how many people go to church and never intend to give their heart to Him. The doors are open for the gay community. But be fore-warned, God will not leave you there. The Christians do not need to fold just because the culture is changing. God has''nt changed at all. His foundation of love is secure. So is His righteous jugdement on rejecting Him. Read Romans 1 John Chapter 3

[truthislife1]

Me, being a Christian for some 30 or so years, am upset so many Christians are bashing the person and not the lifestyle. The gay community needs to know that the God of the Bible does not hate them, but loves them. The church in Rome in Bible times had many issues with this lifestyle. There were many *** and lesbians attending the churches there. That was a good thing, they belonged in church to hear the good news of Jesus and His payment for our many sins. There will be many a struggle after people become Christians, and there is a lot of baggage in peoples lives (mine included), that hangs on for a long time. But what will happen after someone does accept Jesus is that He is the one that does the cleaning, not us barking Christians. This does not mean that it should be tolerated. Many *** do not know how to get out of this lifestyle. It''s one thing to have tendencies and desires of sin. That lives in all of us. It''s a whole different thing to slap it in God''s face and say to God "You can''t do nothing about it." *** can come to Jesus, and He can do the cleaning. God is big enough. God does not want to tell *** that He does not want them. He does. But He does want them to come to their senses.

[magoo2u1]

"So sad for you. Deny God all you want, but that doesn''''''''t change the fact that "Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord." You will too, but it will likely be too late. Your fate in Hell will be sealed. Torture, day and night, never ceasing, for all of eternity, will be your fate. He doesn''''''''t send you there; you send yourself there by rejecting Jesus.

Man, you cross tossers sure are violent. "torture day and night". Bet the guy that kept his daughter locked up in the basement for 30 years is one of you guys. I don''t see where not wanting to do harm to homosexuals should send anyone to heck anyhow. Where, in the bible , does it demand hunting down homos and hurting them? Denying them anything? Live and let live , if you are right they will get theirs in the end and no skin off your back.

[voidmaster-2009]

Wish you could have been here earlier, SusanHelit. Then again%u2026 those who came to exercise their bigotry most likely were far to%u2026 ummm%u2026 numb? to comprehend that logic.

[voidmaster-2009]

applause

[susanhelit]

It''s just so typical - the facts are unpleasant, so let''s not debate the facts. Let''s change the topic, and reply to that. It is really a simple equation though. Businesses want to make money! There''s a lot of people with money who will buy these cards. So any smart business will make the cards.

The few people so prejudiced as to boycott you because of the cards are likely to make significantly less money and are not likely to be your customers anyway. People with more money (on average - there are outliers of every type) are more likely to appreciate tolerance, even when it is not their particular group - this time - that is being given equal treatment.

It''s sure been true that I''ve seen. I''ve worked inside of many different classes at my different jobs, going through college. The lower class, the less tolerant, the more racist (this applies to lower class minorities as well as whites), the more concerned with sticking their noses into other people''s sexuality to find something to disapprove of, try to control, feel superior about, or condemn. The more educated, the more tolerant a person becomes. And every study shows the same. Look at any study of acceptance of homosexuality mapped against income or education. Same result every time.

[voidmaster-2009]

%u201C%u2026just to finish off this Logic 101 example of how not to debate.%u201D

Posted by SusanHelit
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roflmao - Excellent post.