NEW YORK, Aug. 25, 2008

Woman Stabbed To Death As Neighbors Dawdle

21-Year-Old New Yorker's Screams Unheeded For 30 Minutes; Later Found In Pool Of Blood

  • Segundo Penafiel, 25, is the ex-boyfriend of stabbing victim Ebony Garcia. Photo

    Segundo Penafiel, 25, is the ex-boyfriend of stabbing victim Ebony Garcia.  (NY Police Dept)

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(AP)  New York City investigators wonder why neighbors waited more than a half hour before calling police after hearing the screams for help from a woman who was stabbed to death at a Queens apartment.

Police found Ebony Garcia, 21, lying in a pool of blood at about 2:10 a.m Saturday. She was stabbed about a dozen times and died two hours later at a local hospital.

Witnesses say neighbors ignored the woman's screams for more than 30 minutes before someone called the police. One neighbor said she ignored the cries because she thought the victim had been drinking.

"She was screaming, 'Help, help, he stabbed me on the neck, I'm bleeding from the neck," the neighbor told the New York Daily News.

A police source told the newspaper that Garcia had been out drinking at a local bar when she ran into her ex-boyfriend, Segundo Penafiel, 25, against whom she had obtained a restraining order.

"She was in a bad situation. She was a young girl, a good girl," the victim's cousin told the Daily News.

Garcia was the mother of a 2-year-old daughter, the newspaper reports.

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by haoli25 August 25, 2008 9:10 AM PDT
*************! It''s New Yawk!
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by bob5ford August 25, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
The neighbors ignored her because of her ethnic heritage. If she head been a white girl in the Hamptons the SWAT team would have been there in seconds.
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by berniepeders August 25, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
The neighbors ignored her because of her ethnic heritage. If she head been a white girl in the Hamptons the SWAT team would have been there in seconds.

Posted by Bob5ford

Oh, bite me! They ignored her screams because they have become used to hearing drunks and druggies disturbing the peace almost 24/7. Quit trying to blame white people for all the "bad things" that happen to non-whites. Get over yourself!
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by csmith1948 August 25, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
"Its her fault. Had she kept christian hours she would have been safe at home in bed. Nothing good ever happens after midnight." Posted by gop_forever
Just like a true do-gooder. Is that what you learn in church? I wonder which "god" you worship? Blame the victim.
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by deacon20081 August 25, 2008 9:29 AM PDT
Its her fault. Had she kept christian hours she would have been safe at home in bed. Nothing good ever happens after midnight.
Posted by gop_forever
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Another totally Ignorant Post by Gop_forever
You never fail to post rediculas garbage. We have to say you are consistent.
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by dagrandma August 25, 2008 9:30 AM PDT
gop_forever: I don''t know, have you ever seen the Perseids? Ever had a baby in the middle of the night? Ever held your mother''s hand as she took her last breath at 4 in the morning? Ever get off the internet?
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by kennedy7955 August 25, 2008 9:31 AM PDT
The article headline is misleading which is all to often the case. The neighbors probably hear screaming all the time and did not know the seriousness of the problem. Anything to selling newspapers or space on the internet.
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by observer2020 August 25, 2008 9:37 AM PDT
gop_forever: What this woman was doing is NONE of your business--some people are naturally nocturnal. What the story is about is that no one did anything for an hour after hearing her scream! I suppose you would turn your Christian nose up in the air and do nothing like the rest of those people did.

People, we need to watch out for each other...there''s no one else doing it (including the police), so we need to take action and take care of ourselves and our neighbors. America''s moral compass needs a serious check.
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by berniepeders August 25, 2008 9:46 AM PDT
"People, we need to watch out for each other...there''s no one else doing it (including the police), so we need to take action and take care of ourselves and our neighbors". Posted by observer2020

I agree with you, but how do you define "take action and take care of?" I personally believe that ARMED citizens who are willing to USE their guns are being forced to take the place of police who never seem to be able to get to a crime scene until LONG after the crime has been committed. What good are the police after the perpetrator has been gone for 15 minutes?
Peace
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by jackp32 August 25, 2008 9:48 AM PDT
Way to go New Yorkers! You continue to show your indifference towards your neighbors, friends and relatives. You will never change. May the good Lord bring you to your spiritual justice.
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by cerberusii August 25, 2008 9:49 AM PDT
Its her fault. Had she kept christian hours she would have been safe at home in bed. Nothing good ever happens after midnight.
Posted by gop_forever

*****

What an ignorant S*O*B. Puritan, bible thumper hypocrate - You are the reason why abortion should be legalized, to keep your kind from breeding and roam the planet spreading your idiocy. Only you know what you hide inside that closet that makes you seek refuge in religion and use it as an artificial shelter to avoid the pain of your own reality. If you are not good enough to extend a helping hand to another human being, without regard to external appearances, then you must really look at your existance in the mirror and consider other options.
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by berniepeders August 25, 2008 9:50 AM PDT
"Yes this is what I learn in church and I worship the correct God."Posted by gop_forever

"Satan is nocturnal."Posted by gop_forever

The CORRECT god? Define correct for us. And CORRECT according to whom? YOU? You are a raving lunatic!
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by berniepeders August 25, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
Oh, by the way gop forever, here''s a news flash for you: There is no proof that there is a god. It doesn''t really exist. You are wasting your time "worshiping" an invisible guy in the sky. Have fun, bozo.
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by berniepeders August 25, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
...."You are the reason why abortion should be legalized, to keep your kind from breeding and roam the planet spreading your idiocy". Posted by cerberusII

I agree with you completely up to a point. The problem is that we don''t know what kind of adult a baby is going to grow into. I propose that we legalize the euthanasia of all people who post the kind of tripe that idiots like gop_forever post.
Peace
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by credibility2 August 25, 2008 10:04 AM PDT
These neighbors should all be charged with complicity to murder. These aren''t humans, they''re worse than animals. It wouldn''t taken any time to dial 911 and explain the urgency of the emergency. These neighbors all made a conscious decision to not become involved and caused her murder.
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by rushliberal August 25, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
Ya know - reading some of these bible thumper responses for and about GOD - is seems to me that America will be haveing a religious war in the future - and where oh where will the people go this time that want freedom of Religion or more to the point FREEDOM FROM RELIGION and these Stupid Religious People that think GOD controls their lives and therefore should control EVERYONE''S lives.


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by NMlost August 25, 2008 10:10 AM PDT

While New York city is supposed to have improved a lot from the ''60s and ''70s, it has apparently forgotten Kitty Genovese. Too sad for New York.
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by questionnews August 25, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
gop_forever

Oh man are you hooking fish today! The rubes are really biting! Fish On!!!
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by cfin5 August 25, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
People are different in New York City or any big town USA. They watch things in life like they do television saying in their minds "that is horrible",.....yet do nothing as one sitting on the couch. I realize wherever your born, that''s where you are and will be shaped by the social environment that your in. But what I just said is a symptom, or branch fed from a darker root called SIN. Didn''t Cain murder his brother Abel because his acts of worship to GOD were in obedience,....and Cain''s were not? Cain wasn''t living in "New Eden City" to get the bad attitude,.....but the greatest garden in the world which still wasn''t good enough to promote peace of heart (drat, I love good gardens too). God counseled Cain''s pouting anger warning that sin was waiting at his door and that he should rule over against it,.....we all know the rest of the story as he didn''t listen to God.......This time of year, My family and my Amish neighbors all got farmers tans bringing in and putting back our winterings. If they heard someone at my house screaming (we never cry wolf), they would come running to help with pitch fork in hand,.....as I would for them with my Colt in hand.
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by libra127 August 25, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
what does pi$$ me off is that your group demand it to be recognized as your own ''''religion with rights'''' which is a complete and utter oxymoron and flatout ridiculous

Posted by sbbm at 10:24 AM : Aug 25, 2008

Wait a minute. Berniepeders was expressing his opinion, which he has every right to do. Atheists are not a "group" and they are not "demanding" anything.

Every person -- atheist, believer, or agnostic -- should be left alone to practice their religion (or not practice any religion) as they see fit. Such is the freedom guaranteed by the US Constitution.
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by toldyouso12 August 25, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
"Witnesses say neighbors ignored the woman''s screams for more than 30 minutes before someone called the police. One neighbor said she ignored the cries because she thought the victim had been drinking. "

The problem is a "witness" means that they were there too. so why didn''t the "witnesses" call the police? There is something not right here--and we can start with the entire group--witnesses, neighbors and hearsay. As for the man--hope he gets the death penalty if they have that in that State.
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by toldyouso12 August 25, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
Anyone who does not realize GOP_forever is a troll making fun of the Neo cons--needs to remove the blinders. To take what GOP says seriously or try to verbally joust with someone makes as much sense as arguing with a tree.
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by toldyouso12 August 25, 2008 10:59 AM PDT
There is no proof that there is a god. It doesn''''t really exist. Posted by berniepeders at 09:55 AM : Aug 25, 2008



Never say something does not exist, simply due to lack of proof. No one has ever seen a black hole, gone to the sun or been in the 4th dimension--but Science say these things exist or say how hot the sun is and how many miles away it is--even though there is NO Proof because no one has been there or measured the temperature. Scientists call their nonproof--theories or hypothesis and if they base it on equations or projections it is still not proven. There are a lot of nonproven things in the universe and yet we often claim the info as fact. There is no proof that the world was created in a big bang either--. Just because you personally do not know something does not mean it does not exist. Before the advent of MRI''s and other equipment--asthma was thought to be a psychological disease and know one knew what caused mad cow disease. Now we know that asthma is a severe immunological reaction within the bronchioles and that mad cow appears to be caused by prions--which are smaller than viruses. The point is--before the machines existed--many dismissed the diseases--because there was no proof. It did not mean the diseases did not exist or kill--it meant science was at a disadvantage. Perhaps someday science will prove or disprove God--but until that day--no proof means either we are right--or we lack the tools to confirm--either way--it is unknown.
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by toldyouso12 August 25, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
The problem is all that R.A.P. music!!!
All day, all night, all week, all month, all year, year after year, they keep hearing how women are B-s and ho-s, and B-s and ho-s, and B-s and ho-s, and B-s and ho-s, and B-s and ho-s . . .
Not the kind of person you would care about, even if she were screaming for her life!!!

Posted by DaVicar2 at 10:55 AM : Aug 25, 2008


Speak for yourself. Most people are not defined or brainwashed by rap music, rock or anything else. A human is a human and pain is pain. Someone should have called for help. Before rap, there were murders with neighbors ignoring it also. The real deal is that if there was a person witnessing the neighbors ignoring the screams--then that person needs to explain why THEY did not react to the screams--since they too, were there.
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by honestabe8 August 25, 2008 11:30 AM PDT
gop_forever is just a troll trying to get a rise out of you folks. ignore him/her.
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by jennmarikp August 25, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
These days if you involve yourself in what''s going on with your neighbors, they call you "nosy", "busy body" and tell you to mind your own business but on the other side you have someone who really needs help and no one gets involved. My advice to people who feel that their neighbors are "nosy" is be grateful, that nosy person just may make the phone call that saves your life someday. You can''t have it both ways.
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by gopack443 August 25, 2008 11:40 AM PDT
Its her fault. Had she kept christian hours she would have been safe at home in bed. Nothing good ever happens after midnight.


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Posted by gop_forever


I don''t know, I''ve had some GREAT things happen after midnight.
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by beehive21-2009 August 25, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
Neighbors are strange ,these days.It is all disheartening, but true,we no longer care and if you have ,they quickly changed your mind,so,what neighbors ?
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by sistatee-2009 August 25, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
Would you call the police in the middle of Olympic beach volleyball? Can''t miss out on all THAT T&A. Priorities dude!
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by reedtaz73 August 25, 2008 12:20 PM PDT
I wonder what the national average is for crimes against women after obtained a restraining order...must be pretty damm high.
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by berniepeders August 25, 2008 12:23 PM PDT
Wait a minute. Berniepeders was expressing his opinion, which he has every right to do. Atheists are not a "group" and they are not "demanding" anything.

Every person -- atheist, believer, or agnostic -- should be left alone to practice their religion (or not practice any religion) as they see fit. Such is the freedom guaranteed by the US Constitution.

Posted by libra127

Thank you very much libra127.
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by libra127 August 25, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
Never say something does not exist, simply due to lack of proof. No one has ever seen a black hole, gone to the sun or been in the 4th dimension--but Science say these things exist or say how hot the sun is and how many miles away it is--even though there is NO Proof because no one has been there or measured the temperature.

Posted by toldyouso12 at 10:59 AM : Aug 25, 2008

The issue is not "proof", but EVIDENCE. We have evidence the Sun exists because we SEE it and we feel its heat. We don''t have to go there to know it exists, nor to measure its distance from Earth or its temperature. Science has developed methods to measure the distance and temperature remotely.

We know black holes exist because we see their effects on surrounding matter. We don''t have to "see" black holes with our eyes or telescopes to have evidence they exist.

Your knowledge of science and how it operates as a methodology for obtaining knowledge about the Universe is sorely lacking. Please try to educate yourself about science!

Meanwhile, those who claim God exists have the responsibility to provide EVIDENCE of the truth of their claims. If evidence is lacking, you should withhold belief. Believing in something for which there is NO EVIDENCE is NOT a virtue!
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by xlib August 25, 2008 12:42 PM PDT
davicor-your post is worthy of the dailykos or the huffington post. You sound as bitter and angry and vile as a democrat. I''ve taken care of people who had a GBM tumor and they do not live long. You should be ashamed of yourself or join the democratic party.
By the way,the posts from the libs on bob novak, who has the same type of tumor as kennedy were more vile than anything posted by a conservative.
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by hypnotoad72 August 25, 2008 12:43 PM PDT
Every person -- atheist, believer, or agnostic -- should be left alone to practice their religion (or not practice any religion) as they see fit. Such is the freedom guaranteed by the US Constitution.

Posted by libra127
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And religion or none, people should be more respectful of others. Agnostics hate it when the religious say they will send "prayers" their way when they are ill. Gee, is it out of religion or genuine care, regardless of that person''s beliefs?


Agnostics have to drop the chip from their shoulder and remove that stick while they''re at it.

So should the uber-religious.

Or why I should care; people are going to be nasty anyway so I''m going to align with whomever I choose.
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by sistatee-2009 August 25, 2008 1:01 PM PDT
...as another example of terrible behavior..

For all of the decent conservative Republicans and Democrats out there who really do stand up for family and moral values...it''''''''s a shame that people like those below, who claim to stand with you, would make such remarks about a human being who is dying from brain cancer....
Posted by SHURCH4TRUTH at 12:34 PM : Aug 25, 2008

Let''s leave it up to Mary Jo, then. Oh..I forgot..she''s at the bottom of the river.
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by dana417 August 25, 2008 1:03 PM PDT

Typical of New Yorkers. 10 % of them are good, the rest are money grabbing, rotten apples with obnoxious accents.

If 911 would have happened elsewhere, the New York people (not from Upstate, of course) would not have given a *** nor rallied to help.

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by hunterdon6 August 25, 2008 1:07 PM PDT
I have neighbors calling the police because another neighbor looked crossed eyed at them. Then that neighbor calls the police on the other neighbor for something stupid. And history repeats itself over and over again. I have one neighbor who says he''s going to put a picnic table out front and leave a dozen donuts on it. The police are called to his house so often.
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by brianbwb-2009 August 25, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
I once called the Hollywood police when a burglar was ransacking the house next door. The police arrived, caught the intruder, then beought him to our front door to ask "Is this the guy you called us about?"

Of course he was out the next day, and my guests, visiting from Holland, cut short their stay, afeaid that the criminal was loose, and knew the faces of those who called the cops on him.

It is not inconceivable that those who did not call were concerned that the police often bring more problems than they solve.
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by winslowe1 August 25, 2008 1:56 PM PDT
It''s a surprise anyone bothered to call the police at all ... a woman screaming in NYC is as common as car alarms going off.
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by haoli25 August 25, 2008 2:12 PM PDT
Ms. Garcia may have made a poor dating choice.
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by tootall10142 August 25, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
A twenty one year old mother ran into her ex-boyfriend in a bar.ok what is she doing in a bar in new york ? Living in queens pretty much tells us the income level so the odds are she was on hud and or welfare and the child has health ins. paid by the tax payers.So she supports her local bartender on tax packers momey by proxy or directly with what cash she earns.WRONG PLACE, WRONG TIME,DOING THE WRONG THING WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE. WHAT A RECIPE FOR DISASTER!
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by tootall10142 August 25, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
I FORGOT TO MENTION THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS THIS CHILD WILL RECIEVE FOR THE NEXT 16 YEARS OR AS LONG AS SHE STAYS IN SCHOOL.THE LIVING ONCE MORE PAYING FOR THE STUPIDITY OF THE NOW DEAD.
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by tootall10142 August 25, 2008 2:34 PM PDT
BREEDRS BREEDERS BREEDERS !
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by rushlimpdrug August 25, 2008 2:51 PM PDT

Anyone on here old enough to recall Kitty Genovese?
Posted by Nancy_Naive at 12:53 PM


Who that is?

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by hidegirlgcks August 25, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
gop_forever: Have you ever seen the movie "Carrie"? You remind me of her mother!!!!
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by nolalou August 25, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
Anyone on here old enough to recall Kitty Genovese?
Posted by Nancy_Naive at 12:53 PM

For those who don''t know Kitty Genovese was a 28 year old woman stabbed to death in Kew Gardens queens. It was a famous case because newspapers at the time (1964) reported there were 38 witnesses who saw the crime from their windows and heard her scream for help, but nobody called police until she was already dead. Actually, it came out later that was mostly inaccurate. While she was first approached by the killer in view of the apartment windows, where she was stabbed was out of sight of most of them. There''s in an interesting article about the case here:
http://kewgardenshistory.com/ss-nytimes-3.html?spnCategory=155&spnDomain=2&spnContent=23&spnContent=28&spnID=5515
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by payasyougo August 25, 2008 3:38 PM PDT
Is not NY a sanctuary city?
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by denn034 August 25, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
The indifference towards others that this shows can only get worse with the ascendancy of secularism in America. Shame on those people in New York!
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by payasyougo August 25, 2008 3:46 PM PDT
The citizens of New York would like to remind you to mind your own business.
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by antoniof123 August 25, 2008 3:46 PM PDT
Posted by Xlib at 12:42 PM : Aug 25, 2008

This is not about politics you idiot it is about someone being murdered.
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