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Study: Minority Students Paddled More

Human Rights Watch Says Black Kids Receive Corporal Punishment Twice As Often

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(CBS/AP)  Paddlings, swats, licks. A quarter of a million schoolchildren got them in 2007 - and blacks, American Indians and kids with disabilities got a disproportionate share of the punishment, according to a study by a human rights group.

Even little kids can be paddled. Heather Porter, who lives in Crockett, Texas, was startled to hear her little boy, then 3, say he'd been spanked at school. Porter was never told, despite a policy at the public preschool that parents be notified.

"We were pretty ticked off, to say the least. The reason he got paddled was because he was untying his shoes and playing with the air conditioner thermostat," Porter said. "He was being a 3-year-old."

In its study, which was being released Wednesday, the group Human Rights Watch used Education Department data to show that, while paddling has been declining, racial disparity persists. Researchers also interviewed students, parents and school personnel in Texas and Mississippi, states that account for 40 percent of kids who were paddled in the 2007 school year.

Porter could have filled out a form telling the school not to paddle her son, if only she had realized he might be paddled.

Yet many parents find that such forms are ignored, the study said.

Widespread paddling can make it unlikely that forms will be checked. A teacher interviewed by Human Rights Watch, Tiffany Bartlett, said that in her Austin, Texas, school, the policy was to lock the classroom doors when the bell rang, leaving stragglers to be paddled by an administrator patrolling the hallways.

And even if schools make a mistake, they are unlikely to face lawsuits. In places where corporal punishment is allowed, teachers and principals generally have legal immunity from assault laws, the study said.

"One of the things we've seen over and over again is that parents have difficulty getting redress, if a child is paddled and severely injured, or paddled in violation of parents' wishes," said Alice Farmer, the study's author.

A majority of states have outlawed it, but corporal punishment remains widespread across the South. Behind Texas and Mississippi were Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Florida and Missouri.

African American students are more than twice as likely to be paddled. The disparity persists even in places with large black populations, the study found. Similarly, Native Americans were more than twice as likely to be paddled, the study found.

The study also found:

  • In states where paddling is most common, black girls were paddled more than twice as often as white girls.

  • Boys are three times as likely to be paddled as girls.

  • Special education kids were more likely to be paddled.

    More than 100 countries worldwide have banned paddling in schools, including all of Europe, Farmer said. "International human rights law puts a pretty strong prohibition on corporal punishment," she said.

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    It perpetuates a cycle of child abuse. It teaches children to hit someone smaller and weaker when angry.

    Jan Harp Domene, National PTA President
    In rural Drew, Miss., Nickolaus Luckett still remembers the paddlings he got in fifth and seventh grades. One happened when he called a teacher by her first name, the other when a classmate said, wrongly, that he threw a spitball.

    "I didn't get any bruises, but they still hurt, and from that point on, I told myself and my parents I wasn't going to take any more paddlings," said Luckett, who is about to be a sophomore at the University of Mississippi.

    It's not an easy choice. In many schools, kids can avoid a paddling if they accept suspension or detention, or for younger kids, if they skip recess. But often, a child opts for the short-term sting of the paddle.

    And sometimes teachers don't have the option of after-school detention, because there are no buses to take kids home later.

    During the three years Evan Couzo taught in the Mississippi Delta, he refused to paddle kids, offering detention instead. But others - teachers, parents, even kids - were accustomed to paddling.

    "Just about everyone at the beginning of the year said, `If he or she gives you any trouble, you can paddle them. You can send them home, and I'll paddle them. Or you can have me come out to the school, and we can both paddle them.'

    "It's really just a part of the culture of the school environment there," Couzo said.

    There is scant research on whether paddling is effective in the classroom. But many studies have shown it doesn't work at home, said Elizabeth Gershoff, a University of Michigan assistant professor of social work.

    "The use of corporal punishment is associated almost overwhelmingly with negative effects, and that it increases children's problem behavior over time," Gershoff said.

    Children may learn to solve problems using aggression, and a sense of resentment might make them act out more, Gershoff said.

    The practice is banned in 29 states, most recently in Delaware and Pennsylvania. While some education groups haven't taken a position on the issue, the national PTA believes paddling should be banned everywhere.

    "We teach our children that violence is wrong, yet corporal punishment teaches children that violence is a way to solve problems," said Jan Harp Domene, the group's president. "It perpetuates a cycle of child abuse. It teaches children to hit someone smaller and weaker when angry."

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    by keithle1 August 21, 2008 9:15 AM EDT
    Black boys/men end up in prison because they commit crimes. It''s not because they forgot to return a few books to the library.

    Ask the black men in prison this question: did you have a mother who cared about you, loved you & made you her number one priority? Heck, ask that question of all the prisoners, white & brown, too. 99.9% are going to say NO.

    Their mother didn''t care about them. In most cases. She was too busy partying, sucking on a crack pipe, sleeping with every man who smiled at her, etc. Doing everything but taking care of her kids. She has no idea where they are most of the time. Whether they pull a gun out in class or drop out of high school is of no concern to her. It''s all about her. She''s too selfish to be a mother.

    If the kids aren''t getting any discipline at home, do you think they''re going to behave in school?

    Teachers in urban high schools don''t have it easy. To say the least. These high schools in the city have to have metal detectors & guards patrolling the halls.

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    by stupidrules3 August 21, 2008 2:10 AM EDT
    downsteamjim,
    I don''t think rmonroe401 is capable of understanding your sarcasm.
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    by stupidrules3 August 21, 2008 2:07 AM EDT
    Posted by Keithle1 at 10:11 PM : Aug 20, 2008

    I strongly disagree with you most of the time but this time I am with you. I also wish that co11bang had that internet feed to actually see what goes on in the classroom. I think most parents would be shocked at the things their precious little monsters are capable of.
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    by co11bang August 21, 2008 1:27 AM EDT
    I use to only worry about teachers molesting our kids. Based on this report and the people defending the practice of smacking other people''s children I''m beggining to think that every classroom should have a live internet feed so we the parents can monitor the situation in the classroom. Unbelieveable!
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    by co11bang August 21, 2008 1:22 AM EDT
    Keithle1: have you heard of Columbine? Maybe we should beat the white kids so they don''t bring guns and bombs to school and systematically massacre their classmates thought of that? Ofcourse you havent thought of that because your busy calling "minority" children brats and monsters. If you were my daughter''s teacher and you hit her I would pack two years of war into two minutes of furry and leave you a bloody mess. Focus on your own *** family buddy!
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    by keithle1 August 21, 2008 1:11 AM EDT
    Maybe the minority kids are acting up more? Could it be? Or is that a racist thing to say?

    You teach these brats & see if you don''t lay a finger on them. Parents let them do whatver they want. "We don''t want to damage Cody''s self-esteem." Kids are in charge. I see it all the time at the mall, supermarket, store, subway, etc. Mother giving "ultimatums" to her little girl. You''re in a public place with other people who don''t think your precious monster is all that cute. Discipline the kid! Play the part of the PARENT for once!
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    by rmonroe401 August 20, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
    downsteamjim :

    "From the tone of the article, it would seem that we should set aside a certain number of white students [especially females] to be ''''whipping boys'''' so that all groups will be punished equally, regardless of who is committing the enfractions.?"

    LOL, and people like you probably believe what you are saying here. I can''t believe this is the mentality of people in this country. The sad part it they get to vote. I just wish they would give IQ tests before voting, and require a score of over 22.
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    by co11bang August 20, 2008 11:44 PM EDT
    I am a two time Infantry war vet and let me be clear...if anyone ever lays a hand on my daughter for ANY reason I will stomp their brains out of their skull like a Haji caught with an IED! Hit your own *** kids, you hit mine and you eat from a straw.

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    by downsteamjim August 20, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
    To cjw: You have been channeling again. Maybe you need to give your crystal a tune up.
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    by cjw3cma August 20, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
    Beat the cr*p out of them when they do not conform to the NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND guidelines. It''s the best way to deal with the little inbreeds GWB was overheard saying. Besides my daddy beat the holy sh*t out of me and I turned out okay,GWB added.
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    by downsteamjim August 20, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
    From the tone of the article, it would seem that we should set aside a certain number of white students [especially females] to be ''whipping boys'' so that all groups will be punished equally, regardless of who is committing the enfractions.
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    by stupidrules3 August 20, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
    Corporal punishment may be legal in Tennessee but very few schools use it. They are too afraid of lawsuits. I personally believe that if many of these kids were paddled for bad behavior, they might think twice the next time. My mother taught school for 50 years and I''ve heard all the horror stories of how discipline in the classroom has practically disappeared. When I was a kid, if I got in trouble at school, a paddling there was the least of my worries. Since my parents were willing to whip my tail, I figured out that it was not wise to give them reasons to. Hey, I learned that there are immediate, unpleasant, and negative consequences for bad behavior. At my son''s school, the principal knows that if my son misbehaves, all they have to do is call me and the problem will be immediately resolved. My son knows this and he does not make them call me. It tears my heart out on the rare occasions my son earns a spanking but, he does understand that we will go there if necessary. If you are willing to spank your kids, you rarely have to.
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    by afubar69 August 20, 2008 9:26 PM EDT
    I agree with Gatofeo, I too was raised by the paddle, and if you got a paddling in school, you''d get one when you got home. It sure kept me on the straight and narrow. I don''t think I turned out too badly, I''ve managed to raise two children, buy my own home (without once not being able not to make a payment) and am getting ready to retire in a couple of years. Yep, being paddled sure made an impression on me, all good. Thanks to Miss Mary Callahan (teacher who taught me respect and a love of reading) and my parents (who never spared the rod when I needed it).
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    by deacon20081 August 20, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
    When I was a kid the last 5 in the locker room after PE got a swat from the coach. Big deal. It got our attention! Perhaps parents need to look closely at what their kids are doing in school, or not doing.
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    by candy-apple August 20, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
    I always made it very clear to my kids'' teachers that if they were a discipline problem I was to be notified. My kide were more afraid of what would happen when they got home then the punishment thatthey received from school. I''m not talking about beating my kids either, although a good butt whipping never hurt either one of them, they could not stand to be punished. I would also embarass(never sure of the spelling) them at school. If they were wrong I let them know it in front of whoever was there. If they were right I would defend them to the ends of the earth. The school was not there to raise and (physically) discipline my children, that was my job. After all, I had them for the first 5 and 5.5 years of their lives. If they had a behavior problem, shame on me for not doing my job!
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    by gatofeo August 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT
    "... according to a study by a human rights group."

    Oh gee, there''s an objective source!
    The media should never accept such reports from a source that is obviously biased. It violates all the journalistic principles and ethics.

    "The use of corporal punishment is associated almost overwhelmingly with negative effects, and that it increases children''s problem behavior over time," Gershoff said.

    Well, I disagree and I''m a case in point.
    In Junior High, in the late 1960s, I was a good kid but started running with a wild crowd. I was often the fall guy for their pranks and disruptions.
    Finally, one day I was taken out in the hallway and received 8 "hacks" on the butt with a paddle for my insubordination.
    I''ll tell you, it made me get right back on the straight and narrow. And plenty of other kids got straightened out too; I witnessed their turnaround personally.
    Pain and embarassment are good attention-getters when verbal reminders are no longer effective.
    More kids today, especially in school, need a swat on the butt to get their attention.
    I''m not talking about beating a child; I''m saying that when talking no longer works, behavior modificaiton with a swift paddle works!

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    by paganmama August 20, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
    While I believe that there are some kids that need the occasional spanking, I don''t think the people at school should be issuing the swats. I would be on the national news if any at school hit my child.

    Also, I have a hard time accepting the validity of the statistics about minority students being paddle more often. I''m a 44 y.o. African-American (AA) and when I was in school, most of the AA students were very well behaved in class for a very simple reason. . .YOU NEVER WANTED YOUR MAMA TO HAVE TO LEAVE HER JOB AND COME UP TO THE SCHOOL. And if she did, you can best believe it never happened again.
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    by thankfule August 20, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
    Children are intelligent--a swat instead of instruction teaches only one thing--to make sure no one''s looking when you do wrong.
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    by thankfule August 20, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
    "Children learn what they live..." (see poem by Dorothy Law Nolte)--it''s so true! 23 years ago I withdrew my children from a small rural school that used corporal punishment. I was also fired from my teaching position at same school because I refused to use it. Typically, it was applied (a)unfairly & unkindly, with anger, humiliation, prejudice, and favoritism;(b)for minor infractions such as forgetting gym clothes;(c)without parental notice; (d)without witnesses;(e)disregarding state laws. Other children were also pressured to inflict same on the victims. Can you guarantee your child (a)deserved it? (b)received good, not cruel, intentions,attitude,& message? (c)won''t rebel even more because of it?(d)won''t become punishers themselves and develop into physical abusers? In this case the ACLU got an injunction and stopped it and the state now protects children by prohibiting c.p.
    My unpunished children? They became what they were taught they were--not "brats", but loving, responsible, successful people now raising the same.
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    by mandalay-bay August 20, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
    Thirdly, NOBODY would watch ''''The Nanny'''' if it was nothing but black kids week-after-week.


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    Posted by DaVicar2 at 12:10 PM : Aug 20, 2008

    I would. If I wanna bratty white kids i''ll go to Wal-Mart.
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