Aug. 19, 2008
Candidates Got Advance Look At Questions
Washington Post: Spokesman For Minister Says McCain, Obama Were Told Of Some Topics At Saddleback Forum
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Pastor Rick Warren of the giant Saddleback Church in Calif. has invited Barack Obama and John McCain to speak at a televised forum on evangelical issues. Harry Smith reports.
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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, and Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., left, wave with Pastor Rick Warren during the Saddleback Forum in Lake Forrest, Calif., Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008. (AP)
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Responding to questions about whether Sen. John McCain had an unfair advantage over Sen. Barack Obama at Saturday's forum on faith at the Saddleback Church in California, a spokesman for the Rev. Rick Warren said both candidates had an advance look at a few questions.
Spokesman A. Larry Ross said the candidates had agreed that McCain would not listen to Obama's interview, which came first by a coin-flip agreement. But Ross said Warren gave them both a sense of what to expect.
Warren provided McCain and Obama with the four subject areas, Ross said -- leadership, stewardship, worldview and international compassion -- and provided them a sense of the themes he would ask about, including topics such as energy and taxes.
He also offered three examples of questions he planned to ask: What is your greatest moral failure? What is America's greatest moral failure? Who are the three people you rely on for wise advice?
"He wanted to give them an idea of where he wanted to go with this," Ross said in an interview.
The interviews were billed as frank conversations to which the candidates were offering off-the-cuff answers. Several times during the broadcast, Warren referenced a "cone of silence" for McCain during Obama's interview.
Ross said the mentions came "with a chuckle" and were intended to reflect the basic agreement that McCain would not listen to Obama answering his questions.
"He said that metaphorically," Ross said. "There was no whirring glass bubble like Maxwell Smart or something like that. He was speaking to the integrity of the arrangement."
Ross said a Saddleback employee disconnected the live feed from the television in the green room, where McCain stayed during most of Obama's interview.
"He literally disabled it. Even if someone tried to turn it on, it wouldn't work," Ross said. He added that he was given assurances by McCain's campaign that the senator from Arizona had not listened to the radio during the drive to the church in Lake Forest, Calif., while Obama was beginning his interview.
Despite those assurances, some bloggers raised the question about whether McCain got some notice that Obama did not, demanding to know what McCain knew and when he knew it. NBC political reporter Andrea Mitchell reported Sunday that Obama aides thought McCain "may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama."
That prompted a furious response from the McCain campaign. It issued a blistering letter to the president of NBC News yesterday, accusing the network of bias.
Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, wrote of Mitchell's report that "there is not one shred of evidence that it's true," saying that McCain was driven to the event and then was "in a green room with no broadcast feed" during Obama's appearance.
"We are extremely disappointed to see that the level of objectivity at NBC News has fallen so low that reporters are now giving voice to unsubstantiated, partisan claims in order to undercut John McCain," Davis wrote to Steve Capus, in a letter the campaign released to other members of the media.
Tucker Bounds, a McCain spokesman, said the senator's aides did not watch him and tell the candidate which questions Obama was asked, either. An Obama spokesman declined to comment on the controversy.
The McCain campaign continued to refer to the controversy throughout the day. In an e-mail Monday evening on another topic, Bounds started his statement with the phrase: "After being upstaged at the Saddleback Compassion Forum . . ."
The attack on the media was not unusual for the campaign, which recently blasted the New York Times for not publishing an op-ed article written by McCain on Iraq, after it had published one by Obama. The paper's editors say they objected to how the piece was written but were open to having McCain revise it.
By Perry Bacon Jr. and Michael D. Shear
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Typical lib B$.
Ubama must have been in the ''cone of stupid''.....
By INVESTOR''S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, August 18, 2008 4:20 PM PT
Election ''08: Last weekend''s McCain-Obama protodebate made it clear why Obama won''t keep his promise to debate McCain "anywhere, anytime." McCain, with a robust resume and details at his fingertips, won big
The denials of the McCain campaign mean nothing. They have already shown that they will lie and do anything to win.
will make sure that no changes (improvements) will happen with our economy because the corporate interests don''t want any and are giving him all their donations.
Too bad he looked like he was going to PUKE every time he mentioned a scripture or talked about faith.
Posted by Vincan at 05:09 PM : Aug 19, 2008
You have got to be kidding me! Do you really believe that? OMG
Barack went out on a limb, trying to steal some votes from McCain by going to a forum that had religious overtones.
Barack was ill equipped to do so, due to his policies on all those issues that religious folks care about.
As a result, he spoke in platitudes, as well he should have, as he would have had to lie otherwise.
McCain was able to speak to the point, didn''t have to figure out how to dance around the questions as his platform speaks to the religious.
What is so hard to figure out when asked who would have performed better ?
Duh!
Instead, you feel that McCain MUST have cheated...
pathetic, simply pathetic.
You Dems are just in denial.
Barack was ill equipped to do so, due to his policies on all those issues that religious folks care about.
As a result, he spoke in platitudes, as well he should have, as he would have had to lie otherwise.
McCain was able to speak to the point, didn''''t have to figure out how to dance around the questions as his platform speaks to the religious.
What is so hard to figure out when asked who would have performed better ?
Duh!
Instead, you feel that McCain MUST have cheated...
pathetic, simply pathetic.
You Dems are just in denial.
Posted by RosieOD4Prez at 08:12 PM : Aug 19, 2008
Article Six of our Constitution also states "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States".
A bigger question is "Why are you trying to create a "religious test" ???
Like John Edwards Obama ain''t what he pretends to be.
It just makes McCain''s cheating look worse.
Not being able to walk and chew gum without a prompter is reason enough not to want to debate...even someone as OLD as McCain. Sad day when you can''t out do an old man when it comes to answering simple questions. But then that''s when you throw the red flag and yell ''Foul!!!''...gotta do something to get the focus off your own lack of skills.
He has a serious drug problem himself and repeats himself over and over.
The people on this blog were abused children and unfortunately are continuing the cycle of abuse with their own children. They have never developed adult coping skills and have no other outlet for their bitterness and hatred. They were not raised with decent values and seem proud to display their own ignorance. They are sick in their neurotic need to lie and attack others.
They are not seeking the truth and have no desire to hear it. They are frightened to learn something that doesn''t fit with what they already believe
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Either that or the whole campaign is mentally unstable just like McCain is.
McCain''s group is stupid to deny in this manner. When a person starts out not saying they did not due it, but instead saying people can''t prove it, cuz there no shred of evidence--they did it. Otherwise they would just say that they did not do it.
In other words--when people say something cannot be proved, they are already admitting guilt.
Posted by mr2258 at 09:41 PM : Aug 19, 2008
Bush admitted to cocaine use and Clinton admitted to smoking dope--but claimed he did not inhale--who are these people that would not vote for a former illegal drug user--or do you think that Bush is sooo old, that cocaine was legal when he used it? LOL
Rick Davis, McCain''''s campaign manager, wrote of Mitchell''''s report that "there is not one shred of evidence that it''''s true," saying that McCain was driven to the event and then was "in a green room with no broadcast feed" during Obama''''s appearance.
McCain''''s group is stupid to deny in this manner. When a person starts out not saying they did notDO it, but instead saying people can''''t prove it, BECAUSE there IS no shred of evidence--they ARE ADMITTING THAT THEY DID it. Otherwise they would just say that they did not do it.
In other words--when people say something cannot be proved, they are already admitting guilt.
Posted by toldyouso12 at 10:53 PM : Aug 19, 2008
John McCain left this 50%-Amerifrican wearing his butt for a hat.
Can you only imagine how full of nothing John McCain would have made this left wing pinko NObama look, had this been a real time townhall type debate like President McCain requested.
But, this time you must admit, given this latest puppet candidate for CIC the DNC bosses have installed:
A 50%-Amerifrican with zero leadership track record or provable real world experience....
It''s a stretch even for the most open minded among us.
They are not seeking the truth and have no desire to hear it. They are frightened to learn something that doesn''''t fit with what they already believe
Why would anybody who cares about America support somebody like that to lead this country?
(and please only answer if you are capable of doing it without naming anybody else)
In 1973, a russian author, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, wrote about his time in in the book "The Gulag Archipelago" and relayed exactly the same story. From the book:"As he waited, head down, he felt a presence. Slowly he looked up and saw a skinny old prisoner squat down beside him.
The man said nothing. Instead, he used a stick to trace in the dirt the sign of the Cross.
The man then got back up and returned to his work. As Solzhenitsyn stared at the Cross drawn in the dirt his entire perspective changed. He knew he was only one man against the all-powerful Soviet empire. Yet he knew there was something greater than the evil he saw in the prison camp, something greater than the Soviet Union. He knew that hope for all people was represented by that simple Cross.
Through the power of the Cross, anything was possible. And there is a nice long excerpt from John McCain''s book "Hard Call: The Art of Great Decisions " released in 2005, reprinted in the NY Sun, about what a big fan he is of Alexander Solzhenitsyn
In 1973 McCain wrote a very detailed 12,000 word account of his time in Vietnam that was published in US News and world reports and wouldn''t you know it, no mention of the cross in the sand...
Hmm%u2026. Guess McCain didn%u2019t think of it until after he read it in Solzhenitsyns book.
Posted by truthmatterz at 11:59 PM : Aug 19, 2008
Is that a surprise, he has been lying about his war record or lack of war record for a while.
Posted by truthmatterz at 11:59 PM : Aug 19, 2008
Is that a surprise, he has been lying about his war record or lack of war record for a while.
Posted by zerato at 01:31 AM : Aug 20, 2008
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No surprise that he lies and cheats, there is plenty of documented evidence there. But surprised that the right wingers are so willing to prop up another shallow and insecure, dimwitted, tough talking weakling to represent them.
Posted by truthmatterz at 08:06 AM : Aug 20, 2008
I do not advocate either John McCain or Barock Obama for President of these fine United States. However, being a former US military member, You stated that he lied about his military career. Can you please list your references to this information. Please don''t use the slanted blog''s for your information source. By doing this, you will possibly gain more credibility. If not, then your just another lying piece of trash.
As he has been running his campaign - I truly doubt that he was able to maintain any integrity regarding this issue. From this article - it sounds far too convenient for him to have had access to Obama''s interview prior to his own especially if he was on his way to the interview and Obama''s was broadcast on the radio...
Please don''t expect anyone with any objectivity and any knowledge as to how this "game" has been played so far - to be so naive as to believe he was able to contain his "curiosity" and whatever integrity he may personally possess.
Why would anybody who cares about America support somebody like that to lead this country?
(and please only answer if you are capable of doing it without naming anybody else)
Posted by truthmatterz at 11:37 PM : Aug 19, 2008
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You wear this screen name, yet every post you offer these board is such classic left wing pinko lip service founded on nothing more than pure emotions.
BTW: You and your boy, the 50%-Amerifrican, Sen. NObama, don''t get to define the discussion, much as we all know how much you hyphenated-American could.
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I did? Where?
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How long are we going to patronize this self-styled patriot? Does anyone in the media have the guts to ask what John McCain was doing dropping bombs on civilians in Hanoi?
Think about how Americans felt about 911 and then put yourself in the mindset of the Vietnamese who suffered MILLIONS of civilian casualty thanks to the John McCains of this world.
I%u2019m sure they were plenty angry at these pilots, who never really saw the people they were killing. So yes, I%u2019m sure they mistreated prisoners. Clearly the US mistreats prisoners of the war of terror as well.
The Vietnamese created a museum documenting the atrocities they suffered.
Have you heard one word of contrition or remorse from this professional patriot who apparently was less than a standup prisoner, a lousy pilot, an extremely poor student at the Naval Academy and a total phony. His plane was shot down into a lake. They rescued him.
There was another choice.
Of coursw we all know polls don''t matter....unless Obama is in thelead LOL.
Now we all know why Obama doest not want to do town hall style debates......What were his words now about debating McCain "Any time, any place"? Yeah right.
The American people are finally starting to realize what an empty suit Obama really is. November can''t arrive too soon. The complete meltdown by the left will be highly entertaining. What will be the excuse then I wonder?
What a crock of liberal B$~!
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Posted by truthmatterz at 11:07 AM : Aug 20, 2008
My apologies, it wasn''t you.