Army Deserter To Be Deported From Canada

U.S. Soldier Called Iraq War Immoral And Illegal, Sought Refugee Status For His Family

(AP)  One of the first U.S. Army deserters from Iraq to seek refugee status in Canada has been ordered deported.

Jeremy Hinzman said Wednesday he was ordered out of the country by Sept. 23 by Canada's Border Services Agency.

Hinzman deserted the Army from Fort Bragg, N.C., in 2004 after learning his unit was to be deployed to Iraq. He refused to participate in what he calls an immoral and illegal war

Hinzman, 29, fled to Canada with his wife and son after he was ordered to deploy to Iraq with the 82nd Airborne Division in December 2003. He likely faces military charges in the U.S.

"I'm disappointed, but I think that every soldier that has refused to fight in Iraq has done a good thing and I'm not ashamed," Hinzman said moments after learning of the decision.

Hinzman said reasons were given for the decision but he hadn't gone over them yet.

"I don't know how political it was. I had a high profile case," Hinzman said.

The Immigration and Refugee Board rejected his claim in 2005 and the Federal Court of Appeal held that he wouldn't face any serious punishment if returned to the United States.

Hinzman took his pleas to the Supreme Court of Canada, which also refused to hear the case.

Hinzman fled in January 2004. He had served three years in the Army, but had applied for conscientious objector status before his unit was sent to Afghanistan in 2002 where he served in a non-combat position.

Last month, Robin Long became the first resister to the U.S war effort in Iraq to be removed by Canadian authorities.

There are about 200 American deserters believed to have come to Canada trying to avoid service in Iraq. So far, Canadian immigration officials and the courts have rejected efforts to grant them refugee status.

During the Vietnam War, up to 90,000 Americans successfully won refuge in Canada, most of them to avoid the military draft. The majority went home after the United States granted amnesty in the late 1970s. Many also were given permanent residence status in Canada that eventually resulted in citizenship.

Canada's Parliament's lower house passed a nonbinding motion in June allowing U.S. military deserters to stay in Canada, but the Conservative government ignored the vote.

Conservative government party members opposed the motion, not willing to risk straining ties with Washington over the issue or fight rulings already made by the courts and immigrations officials.

[patriot12436]

daffy
Unfortunately because of bush''s actions we cannot afford the trip to the white house.

[libsluv2spit]

"To our Canadian neighbors.
Not all Americans are ill mannered and lack intelligence, unfortunately they seem to be seem and heard thruout the world. I travel extensively and have a high opinion of many countries including Canada. Please do not judge the majority of Americans by the few without manners. Like a bad apple they make the whole barrel look bad."

Thank you. You are a polite well mannered person.


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Posted by daffy64 at 09:34 AM : Aug 14, 2008
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you might want to wipe that *** off the side of your mouth..

[libsluv2spit]

Guy just wanted to stay alive.


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Posted by lazareth at 01:00 AM : Aug 14, 2008
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then he should had thought of that when he decided to be a soldier...a coward and a parasite..

[libsluv2spit]

this moron is a coward and a parasite..he was not drafted..he was not forced..when he joined the military..what did he think the military does for a living??..

again a coward and a parasite

[billorights]

The following information contradicts your assertion. - Posted by brianbwb at 05:33 PM : Aug 13, 2008

I have to wonder how any claim by Hans Blix could contradict anything. Was he not the leader of the weapons inspection team that was denied access to inspect designated sites within Iraqi borders?

I have not asserted that Hussein had been successful in his WMD development. The point was that the US and our allies were not able to confirm that until long after the current conflict began.

Saddam continued his saber rattling well after his defeat in Kuwait, while actively pursuing his goal of WMD development, and repeatedly denying access to UN weapons inspectors. The people working on his development teams were so justifiably terrified of him that they told him only what he wanted to hear. He believed he was progressing in WMD development, and did his best to make the rest of the world believe so, too. What should we have done? Wait for him to succeed?

[whiskyrokkr]

Keep this Puzzy in Canada where he belongs.

[patriot12436]

To our Canadian neighbors.
Not all Americans are ill mannered and lack intelligence, unfortunately they seem to be seem and heard thruout the world. I travel extensively and have a high opinion of many countries including Canada. Please do not judge the majority of Americans by the few without manners. Like a bad apple they make the whole barrel look bad.

[patriot12436]

daffy1799
From the looks of things we need to ask you to do us another favor, burn down the white house again, just make sure bush is there when you do.

[patriot12436]

daffy64
About the Canadian sniper making the longest shot, i am not sure. However we do claim the most difficult kill by an American Marine in Vietnam who killed a north Vietnamese general on his own base and escaped. Now that was a hard act to follow.

[patriot12436]

A case of immoral. England just granted asylum to the prime minister and his wife of Thailand. She had been convicted of crimes against the people and was awaiting sentencing. The people of Thailand have been trying to remove him from office. Although i feel it was wrong for England to grant asylum, this was a means to remove him from office without any Thai people losing their lives in a revolution. It seems to be the best ending. The govt seixed 2 billion in assets the prime minsister had and will return them to the Thai treasury. I think this was the best outcome for the Thai people they could hope for.

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meanbiker
I would agree with your assessment if we applied it equally to our politicians.

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generey
I agree. I came back from nam anti war. I believe Afghanastan was necessary but not Iraq. I support our troops totally. I am 100% disabled from nam, my oldest son is 100% disabled from army rangers, my daughter is back from Iraq and will probably be 100% disabled, my youngest son just joined the army. I believe we need to stop trying to dictate what the rest of the world does and take care of the problems at home. Seal our borders and make America for Americans again. Whewn i go to another country i learn their culutres and language. When they coem to the U.S. i expect them to learn english and abide by our laws. I agree we need to seal off our borders.

[bhappy2-2]

Too bad OUR government cannot deport 12 MILLION to 35 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS. Now, THAT would be news!

[newlector]

It really sucks to see, how many people believe, all the garbage the government tell us every single day, and send our kids to fight for the interest of an small group of reach people...myself I haven''t receive any benefit from this stupid war neither my neighbors, ( just read and hear from a bunch of full saying the contrary) but the fact is they are and still look the same to me. But now I am paying more for gas, than before the war began. I have a lot of respect for our soldiers... and I am sorry that most of them don''t have the choice that you and me have when we have to say I don''t give @$%& about this and I won''t do it...I wish I could do more than write this words to help the families of all those under pay soldiers who are risking their lives for a group of stubborn and greedy people.....the good thin is 100 years from now we gonna see who was right when we answer to GOD....lets them have fun for now.......like a credit car....spend and spend, then payment day will come!!!

[generey]

generey, you seem like the only rational person in this discussion.


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Posted by daffy64 at 07:20 PM : Aug 13, 2008

WOW! Thank You Daffy! I don''t hear that very often!!! LOL! BUT, to everyone...I may have my differing opinion on world issue''s, but I fully support the troop''s in service...they are only following order''s.

[babooph]

We never had to deport Bush & Cheney -Cheneys wife got him a deferment & Bushs mother got some weak general to fake his papers,pretending he was not a deserter-now they send our men to their death,with brainwashed weak minded support from the propaganda system.

[generey]

Well this issue is sure to stir up emotions from all sides, & I myself have mixed feelings. I can understand both issues. I never had to go to VietNam but was serving in the Air Force in the early ''70s. The US was withdrawing, and did completely, so I stayed "stateside", BUT, when I enlisted I was fully aware of the possibility, and considered anyone who at that time that enlisted into the National and Coast Guard''s to be draft dodger''s. Alright; this guy was in active duty so yes, that is desertion. That was a decision he made and he will be court martialed, convicted and sentenced to prison for it. I myself believe in proper military conduct and "following order''s", BUT I can understand his decision; I''m one who believes in securing our own border''s and quit "policing" the rest of the world. GENERAL ORDER''S of all military personnel are to protect our nation and constitution. Well, if we secure our border''s, NO-ONE would be a threat to us.
I know this is a can of worm''s but that''s my opinion.

[apprxam]

So now, stop your ******** about an Immoral war and Bush and the republicans. We did what America had to do and that''''s that!!!
Posted By scottdaven.

Oh, I see. I thought you were a cheerleader...but you''re just crazy. That''s just silly. If we were to remove a "bad" man, then why stay and spend so much money and time and American lives to this venture.

Saddam, good, Sir, won. Because posthumously...he f*cked the U.S. government and by extention, the AMerican people. And this is what you''re proud of? That''s just sad.

[apprxam]

Scott, really? THe very inspecters the BuShit administration electronically wired and ignored?

I can remember King George claiming "Yellowcake" and "9/11". You''ve remember what you want, but the facts are not only on the record, but this records is public.

Your friend, George, used every excuse but weapons inspection.

[apprxam]

In a free nation, where people, at least a healthy amount of them, think for themselves and aren''t ascribed immoral orders by immoral politicians and officials.

More servicemen will speak out and against their over-lords. The same men that prodded the unsafisticated private to shoot-first on Iraqi streets, or torment those held in military prison, etc., etc....and then bring them up on Courts Marshal charges and nothing, nothing to the C.O.s and E.Os and Genrals.