SHERMAN, Texas, Aug. 8, 2008

14 Killed In Texas Bus Crash

Investigators Say The Bus Was Not In Compliance With Safety Standards

    • A Sherman, Texas, emergency official stands in front of a bus that crashed while North bound on U.S. 75 early on Aug. 8, 2008, in Sherman, Texas. Photo

      A Sherman, Texas, emergency official stands in front of a bus that crashed while North bound on U.S. 75 early on Aug. 8, 2008, in Sherman, Texas.  (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)

    • Fire trucks and police cars line up at the site of a fatal bus wreck on U.S. Highway 75 in Sherman, Texas early on Aug. 8, 2008. Photo

      Fire trucks and police cars line up at the site of a fatal bus wreck on U.S. Highway 75 in Sherman, Texas early on Aug. 8, 2008.  (AP Photo/Chris Jennings)

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  • Photo Essay Texas Bus Crash

    Charter carrying Vietnamese worshipers on pilgrimage runs off highway overpass, killing 14.

(CBS/ AP)  A charter bus carrying Vietnamese worshippers on a pilgrimage slammed onto its side and off a highway north of Dallas early Friday, killing at least 14 people and injuring more than 40, authorities said.

The bus skidded across a guard rail before sliding off U.S. 75 on the other side of a bridge over a creek. The right front tire of the bus carrying 55 people from Houston to Missouri blew out.

Investigators say the blown tire had been refitted with a new tread in violation of safety standards.

The National Transportation Safety Board also said late Friday that the driver was a 52-year-old who had a commercial license but whose medical certification had expired.

Authorities say the bus was operating illegally earlier in the day when the right front tire blew. The vehicle smashed into a guardrail and tipped over.

"There were people deceased from the front of the bus to the back of the bus," Officer Zachary Flores, one of the first on the scene, told The Dallas Morning News.

Workers were cleaning debris and gathering personal effects, including a blood-soaked pillow, a lone sandal, luggage and scattered pieces of clothing. There were blood spots on grass near where authorities had lined up six white body bags shortly after the accident.

The bus came to rest on its right side, partly on the northbound lane of the freeway and partly on grass. Workers righted the wreckage and loaded it onto a flatbed truck.

"Please pray for us," said Holly Nguyen, 38, a church member who was following behind the bus in a car but didn't see the wreck. She was anxiously waiting for word on whether her father, who was on the bus, was dead or injured.

Fire Chief Jeff Jones said 12 people died on the scene. Another two have died in hospitals. At least six more were hospitalized in critical condition.

"I saw crushing wounds," Jones said, "but there were very few walking wounded."

(AP/ESRI)
The identities or ages of the crash victims weren't immediately available, but police Lt. Steve Ayers said there were children on board.

Investigators have interviewed the bus driver and he is in stable condition, Ayers said. Roads were dry at the time of the tragedy.

National Transportation Safety Board investigators were on the scene. Their investigation could take up to 18 months.

The accident happened less than a mile from the spot where a trucker crossed the median and killed 10 people five years ago.

The injured were rushed by road and air to several hospitals. Northbound traffic on the highway was shut down as ambulances and helicopters used the roadway and median to ferry the injured to hospitals.

Many of those on the bus were from the Vietnamese Martyrs Church of Houston and were on their way to a religious festival in Carthage, Mo.

Mary Nguyen, a member of the church for over 10 years, was at the church because she wanted to be near other parishioners after learning early Friday that a close friend had died.

Nguyen said she actually had planned to meet her friend, who canceled because of the trip. She began sobbing as she described the dream that kept waking her up, in which she was on a trip with the friend then opened a suitcase and saw dead bodies.

"I feel so sorry because she's dead ... she was just a very good person," she said. "The church is like one big family here. We're very close. We stick together."

Tinh Trinh, a church member for 20 years, said he was waiting to hear how one of his wife's friends was doing.

"I myself cried this morning when I heard the news," said Trinh, one of only a few people at the large brick church early Friday.

The Marian Days pilgrimage, which started in the late 1970s in southwest Missouri, attracts thousands of Catholic Vietnamese Americans each year. Many attend a large outdoor mass each day while enjoying entertainment and camping throughout the city at night.

The accident was the worst bus wreck in Texas since 23 people died when a bus carrying nursing home residents fleeing from Hurricane Rita was rocked by several explosions after catching fire on a gridlocked highway near Dallas.

Sherman is about 65 miles north of Dallas.


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by tbweb August 8, 2008 8:31 AM PDT
Ouch! :(
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by DikHagen August 8, 2008 8:33 AM PDT
God bless and keep all these unfortunate folks.
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by DikHagen August 8, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
God bless and keep all these unfortunate folks.
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by jetlizhan August 8, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
how tragic - wonder if the driver dozed off?
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by pensacola88 August 8, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
It''s difficult to accept deaths on a hiway and even harder to accept them in mass.
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by DikHagen August 8, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
God bless and keep all these unfortunate folks.
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by tootall10142 August 8, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
The charter company has bus load of insurance but this wont bring back the dead.Let this be a notice to any one who traels by bus LOOK at the tires of the bus you are about to get on if they look bad they probably are. Wait on the next bus its not worth the chance to die trying to get to your loved ones .
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by aerodog August 8, 2008 9:08 AM PDT
If a tire blew, at least it wasn''t the bus driver''s fault. I feel so very sorry for him. Lord help him.
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by obama441 August 8, 2008 9:30 AM PDT
Truly sad. Prayers and thoughts with the victims and their families. God bless. Posted by seandgreen...same here, prayers for the families.....
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by aaabee-2009 August 8, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
The investigators should check the age of that bus''s tires.

Consumer advocates are trying very hard to get the information out about expiration dates on tires.
Expired tires are extremely dangerous in that the material they are made of decinergrates. New tires, already past their expiration date, are being sold all over America. Too few consumers realize that tires have expiration dates and find out only when they have a blow-out while driving.

If the manufacterers didn''t hide the expiration date on the inside of the tire or hide the information about tires even having an expiration date, less highway deaths would occur in this country.

One man lost his son to a car wreck letting him use the family van for a graduation trip, a van with new tires...tires that had expired.
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by wellhell3 August 8, 2008 9:34 AM PDT
Condolences to these families who lost loved ones...prayers for swift recovery for those injured.

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by haoli25 August 8, 2008 9:38 AM PDT
It was HIS will.
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by usclimey August 8, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
Seems to me that most of these bus/van crashes with numerous fatalities are religious groups of some sort. Why? Condolences to the victime here.
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by pollroller1 August 8, 2008 10:05 AM PDT
What a terrible tragedy. My sincerest condolences to their families.
I also wonder about those tires. My understanding is that they should be used after they are 6 years old.
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by pollroller1 August 8, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
Well I meant to say that the tires should NOT be used after 6 years
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by hbevis August 8, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
Seems to me that most of these bus/van crashes with numerous fatalities are religious groups of some sort. Why? ----------------------------------------
----------------------- Posted by usclimey

Maybe all that singin distracts the bus driver?

Posted by DaVicar2 at 10:16 AM : Aug 08, 2008

I think that these private groups have these bus''s and do not check the thing for safety. I wounder if you are supposed to rotate the tires on a big vehicle?? Does anyone know the answer to that?
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by indivthinker August 8, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
causeway_m,

You are human filth. Get a job. Get a life. Get see a psychologist.

I live in Dallas, and all the news is talking about is this bus crash. It reminds me so much of the Metro-church bus crash about five years ago.

My condolences to the families, and may God bless the survivors that are fighting for their lives, and the doctors who are doing their best for these people.
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by hbevis August 8, 2008 11:03 AM PDT
causeway_m,

You are human filth. Get a job. Get a life. Get see a psychologist.

I live in Dallas, and all the news is talking about is this bus crash. It reminds me so much of the Metro-church bus crash about five years ago.

My condolences to the families, and may God bless the survivors that are fighting for their lives, and the doctors who are doing their best for these people.

Posted by indivthinker at 11:01 AM : Aug 08, 2008

I SAY AMEN TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOVE..
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by rational_1 August 8, 2008 11:40 AM PDT
Seems to me that most of these bus/van crashes with numerous fatalities are religious groups of some sort. Why? Condolences to the victime here.
Posted by usclimey at 10:01 AM : Aug 08, 2008

Because groups of atheists rarely get together for road trips?
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by navyvet77 August 8, 2008 12:12 PM PDT
god is still that angry at texas? look out, arizona.


Posted by ccfsdca at 11:53 AM : Aug 08, 2008
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You know nothing about Texas and even less about Arizona. But you do seem to know a lot about being a bigot!
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by xxunknown August 8, 2008 1:07 PM PDT
I wonder what GOP_Forver will have to say about this.
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by mollydtt August 8, 2008 1:39 PM PDT
I''m so sorry this happened. My heart goes out to all the families. So sad.
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by dfazio22 August 8, 2008 1:43 PM PDT
I am so sorry to here about the bus crash and about the people that lost there lives and the people that were hurt. I have been in a car wreak where people were hurt in the car i was in and the other car there were 2 people were killed. what i am trying to say how could lot of the people say in there blog what they say we do have some IGNORANT people in this world. WE do have a few very good Americans that gave there condolences. MAY god bess you.
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by avigil2 August 8, 2008 1:55 PM PDT
"It was HIS will" - haoli25

Don''t be a freakin'' idiot. If you think it was God''s will to kill so many innocent people who worshiped him, then people like you are more delusional than the bi-polars. Please!
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by txgrouch2006 August 8, 2008 2:00 PM PDT
HEY, KNOCK IT OFF! This was an illegal company operating an illegal bus, probably the whole operation was run by illegals or in an illegal manner.

So they get A FREE PASS! They''re just struggling immigrants trying to live the American dream.

Of running an illegal business and killing and maiming people. Oh, like white people never do that.

The passengers were from the Vietnamese Martyr Catholic Church. They WANTED to die anyway. Normally they would have to pay extra for that.
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by txgrouch2006 August 8, 2008 2:02 PM PDT
HEY, KNOCK IT OFF! This was an illegal company operating an illegal bus, probably the whole operation was run by illegals or in an illegal manner.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/5932102.html
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by txgrouch2006 August 8, 2008 2:04 PM PDT
The accident happened less than a mile from the spot where a trucker crossed the median and killed 10 people five years ago.
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Oh, gosh! It was WITHIN A MILE of A DANGEROUS SPOT IN THE ROAD. Maybe.

Somebody should sue. From a mile away.
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by mhw1063 August 8, 2008 2:54 PM PDT
SO SAD 14 LIVES GONE BEFORE THEY HAD A CHANCE TO LIVE
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by observer2020 August 8, 2008 2:58 PM PDT
I wonder what GOP_Forver will have to say about this.
Posted by xxunknown
I was wondering the same thing...must be away from the comp today. Woo-Hoo!
My heart goes out to those that were killed and injured and their families. Condolences and well wishes.
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by causeway_m August 8, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
hbevis and indivthinker - or should I say beavis and butthead.......so you don''t like my comments about dead TexASSAns - well TOUGH

I am responding to news on dead TexASSans in the same way as TeXASSans have responded to news on dead Iraqis. If you don''t like what I said maybe you should be more mindful about the comments you post about the people dying in other countries - remember that bit in your buybull about "doing unto others as you would have others do unto you" ?? - oh yeah I forget you just lecture others on following the buybull while you do the exact opposite - tyoical for sanctimonious buybull thumping Christians
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by txgrouch2006 August 8, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
don''''t have to know much about TexASS to know that it''''s a fvcking ******** populated by scumbag hypocritical buybull thumping *** ie TexASSans
Posted by causeway_m at 03:01 PM : Aug 08, 2008

Why don''t you come to Texas and dicuss these ideas with the biggest redneck you can find?

I''m sure he''d find your opinions worthy of a meaningful exchange of views.
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by navyvet77 August 8, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
don''''''''t have to know much about TexASS to know that it''''''''s a fvcking ******** populated by scumbag hypocritical buybull thumping *** ie TexASSans

Posted by causeway_m at 03:01 PM : Aug 08, 2008

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You just proved my point causeway_m. First, you are a bigot which to me is no different then being a racist. Second, when someone says "I don''t have to know...", that usually means they don''t know Jack and to add proof they usually follow that up with vulgarity. I''m from Arizona and I''m proud to have such a fine state as Texas as my neighbor. I would trust a Texan to watch my back way more then I would ever trust the likes of you, you bigot.
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by toolmangler-2009 August 8, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
"It was HIS will" - haoli25


Why is GOD always blamed for things like this, If you believe in GOD, you must believe in the Devil also. He can kill as well as GOD can but nobody ever blames him. Why does blame have to be placed anyway? Because very few people ever accept the blame themselves. It is Human nature to lie about things.
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by no2zeebas August 8, 2008 5:07 PM PDT
So sad...
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by txgrouch2006 August 8, 2008 5:14 PM PDT
What''s REALLY sad is that this was a TOTALLY ILLEGAL BUS OPERATED BY A TOTALLY ILLEGAL BUS COMPANY RUN BY ILLEGALS.

http://www.chron.com/disp/sto
ry.mpl/hotstories/5932102.html

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by lloydbest1 August 8, 2008 5:20 PM PDT
"hbevis and indivthinker - or should I say beavis and butthead..so you don''t like my comments about dead TexASSAns - well TOUGH
I am responding to news on dead TexASSans in the same way as TeXASSans have responded to news on dead Iraqis. If you don''t like what I said maybe you should be more mindful about the comments you post about the people dying in other countries - remember that bit in your buybull about "doing unto others as you would have others do unto you" ?? - oh yeah I forget you just lecture others on following the buybull while you do the exact opposite - tyoical for sanctimonious buybull thumping Christians." Posted by causeway_m at 02:59 PM : Aug 08, 2008

Evidently SOMEone found your original post and the one time-stamped 03:01 PM : Aug 08, 2008 offensive enough to have them both deleted. Congratulations. Even that one trick pony, "terrorislam" hasn''t managed to get two posts scrubbed in the same thread.
I didn''t get a chance to read either before they got axed so I can''t say whether I would be offended, but with a population of nearly 20 million, it''s hard for me to believe that all "TexASSans" are the Neanderthals you apparently portray them to be.
I will not betray my religious convictions but I read the "buybull" occassionally and in it there is a passage about turning the other cheek. To my mind this merely means that stupidity, hostility, or rudeness on one person''s part is no excuse for the same on anyone else''s.
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by lloydbest1 August 8, 2008 5:24 PM PDT
Since I didn''t have room in my last post to do so, I would like to add my condolences to the families who were affected by this horrible accident. I have lost loved ones myself and it is never easy. May you find or be granted the strength to endure.
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by txgrouch2006 August 8, 2008 5:25 PM PDT
To my mind this merely means that stupidity, hostility, or rudeness on one person''''s part is no excuse for the same on anyone else''''s.
Posted by LloydBest1 at 05:20 PM : Aug 08, 2008

The poster you addressed is a known troll. I have invited him (it?) to discuss these opinions with a big redneck in Texas to have a meaningful exchange of views.

Until I see evidence that such an exchange has occurred, I would consider this troll to be worthy of being ignored.
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by txgrouch2006 August 8, 2008 5:26 PM PDT
What''''s REALLY sad is that this was a TOTALLY ILLEGAL BUS OPERATED BY A TOTALLY ILLEGAL BUS COMPANY RUN BY ILLEGALS.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/5932102.html

Still think there''s NO HARM from illegal businesses?
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by causeway_m August 8, 2008 6:59 PM PDT
Why don''''t you come to Texas and dicuss these ideas Posted by txgrouch2006 at 03:17 PM : Aug 08, 2008"

cletus - why don''y you get your fat *** and even fatter yellow belly over to Iraq or Afghanistan and discuss your views on Islam with the AQ or Taliban fellas ??? I''ve noticed your comments and those of your texASSan trailer trash brethren on those fellas but strangely the yellow bellied texASSan redneck trash seem to busy wobbling and scratching their fat yellow bellies to get over to those places
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by causeway_m August 8, 2008 7:02 PM PDT
You just proved my point causeway_m. First, you are a bigot which to me is no different then being a racist. Second, when someone says "I don''''t have to know...", that usually means they don''''t know Jack and to add proof they usually follow that up with vulgarity. I''''m from Arizona and I''''m proud to have such a fine state as Texas as my neighbor. I would trust a Texan to watch my back way more then I would ever trust the likes of you, you bigot.

Posted by NAVYVET77 at 03:48 PM : Aug 08, 2008"

*** - I''ve seen your comments about Muslims, blacks Iraqis etc (in fact anyone who soesn''t worship your beloved baboon leader and his chosen successor - the old, grey haired, wrinkly rune McCain) so your coomments about me being bigoted are HILARIOUS......sort of typical of the sanctimonious drivel I have come to expect from you ******* buybull thumping trailer trash

Arizona - that''s a stste full of them Moromon paedophiles isn''t it.....
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by causeway_m August 8, 2008 7:04 PM PDT
Until I see evidence that such an exchange has occurred, I would consider this troll to be worthy of being ignored.



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Posted by txgrouch2006 at 05:25 PM : Aug 08, 2008"

cletus -still to busy wobbling and scratching your fat yellow belly to go over to Iraq and Afghanistan and fight for your beloved murrkkka I see - sort of expected from TexASSans really seeing as TexASS is famously known as the yellow belly state
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by causeway_m August 8, 2008 7:10 PM PDT
it''''s hard for me to believe that all "TexASSans" are the Neanderthals you apparently portray them to be.
I will not betray my religious convictions but I read the "buybull" occassionally and in it there is a passage about turning the other cheek. To my mind this merely means that stupidity, hostility, or rudeness on one person''''s part is no excuse for the same on anyone else''''s.

Posted by LloydBest1 at 05:20 PM : Aug 08, 2008"

As I recall the "buybull" also has this passage about doing unto others what you would have others do unto you........seeing as you buybull thumpers esp. those from texASS found the killings of Iraqis and Afghans to be funny and hilarious, I am shocked shocked I say, that you renown believers in Christianity would be upset at my comments about the TexASSans.

Oh and as for you finding it difficult to believe that all 20m TexASSans are neanderthals.......well let''s just say that you Assmericvnt buybull thumpers referred to all Muslims, Arabs, euriopeans, chinese (indeed anyone) who refused to worship your beloved lord god pretzeldunce baboon as a terrorist.....so why would you be surprised that someone else may find TexASSans to be *** given their *** comments and behaviour

Maybe if those TexASSans don''t like being generalised about they shouldn''t generalise about others - you know follow the words of that buybull *** that they try to ram down everyones throat
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by txgrouch2006 August 8, 2008 7:13 PM PDT
What''s REALLY sad is that this was a TOTALLY ILLEGAL BUS OPERATED BY A TOTALLY ILLEGAL BUS COMPANY RUN BY ILLEGALS.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/5932102.html

Still think there''''s NO HARM from illegal businesses?
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by causeway_m August 8, 2008 7:18 PM PDT
Hey cletus - I see you''re still too busy scratching and wobbling your fat yellow belly to waddle over to Iraq or Afghanistan or even the the texASS / Mexico border to defend TexASS

Guess what they say about TexASSans is true - the only thing bigger than a TexASSan''s talk is his fat yellow belly and the deep yellow streaks down his TexASSan back
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by fabrat1 August 8, 2008 7:18 PM PDT
This happened just 4 blocks from my home. The sound of the crash woke me from a sound sleep. The scene was something you can''t discribe. Stop argueing and pray for these people.
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by zerato-2009 August 8, 2008 11:55 PM PDT
It was a terrible tragedy that happened in my area. It is very sad to hear of so many died and so many injured. My condolences goes out to family.

It is a shame that such a tragedy brings persons to this story that have ulterior motives and begin needless arguments for their own enjoyment
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by demwatcher August 9, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
"Hey cletus - I see you''''re still too busy scratching and wobbling your fat yellow belly to waddle over to Iraq or Afghanistan or even the the texASS / Mexico border to defend TexASS

Guess what they say about TexASSans is true - the only thing bigger than a TexASSan''''s talk is his fat yellow belly and the deep yellow streaks down his TexASSan back.

Posted by causeway_m at 07:18 PM : Aug 08, 2008"

causeway_m MUST be a Democrat. This person just exudes charm and compassion, and is obviously concerned with inclusion, and has not a discriminatory bone in their body.
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by stevenga777 August 9, 2008 12:47 PM PDT
Edwards is rich. Why not just take the paternity test and if it is his child pay child support and be part of the child''s life???
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by fabrat1 August 9, 2008 6:54 PM PDT
lambor59 you''re such an IDIOT!!! You have NO facts on Priests and your comment is rediculous! The fact is EVERY human was created by God and this is a very sad event. At this very moment they are still on the scene trying to collect the remainder of the evidence and I still have to go more than a mile out of my way to get home because of it. This was a very sad scene and one I hope to never see again!
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