Al-Sadr Orders Militia To Disarm

Iraqi Shiite Cleric Will Keep Elite Force Until U.S. Troop Withdrawal Timetable Enacted

(CBS/ AP)  Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered most of his militiamen to disarm but said Friday he will maintain elite fighting units to resist the Americans if a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops is not established.

Also Friday, Iraqi police say at least 16 people have been killed and 20 wounded when a car bomb struck a market in the northern city of Tal Afar.

A senior police official in the nearby city of Mosul says the car was parked when it exploded by the market, crowded with shoppers.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information. The bombing is the latest in a series of deadly attacks by suspected insurgents seeking to chip away at recent security gains.

Al-Sadr's statement - read to worshippers during Friday prayers in Baghdad's former militia stronghold of Sadr City - is in line with details revealed earlier this week and appears to be an extension of plans he announced in June aimed at asserting more control over the militia.

"Weapons are to be exclusively in the hands of one group, the resistance group," while another group called Momahidoun is to focus on social, religious and community work, Sadrist cleric Mudhafar al-Moussawi said.

He said the announcement was particularly aimed at members of al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia, which has been blamed for some of the worst violence against American troops and rival Sunni Arabs.

Thousands of worshippers streamed out into the streets after the Islamic service, burning an American flag and shouting: "No, no to America. No, no to occupation."

The cleric has linked the reorganization of the Mahdi Army to U.S.-Iraqi negotiations over a long-term agreement that would extend the American presence in Iraq after a U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year. Al-Sadr and his followers want the deal to include a timeframe for an American withdrawal and have warned they may not suspend operations without such a clause.

Several cease-fires by al-Sadr have been key to a sharp decline in violence over the past year, along with a Sunni revolt against al Qaeda in Iraq and a U.S. troop buildup. But American officials still consider his militiamen a threat and have backed the Iraqi military in operations to try to oust them from their power bases in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq.

The fighting cells will be "small and limited" and will only launch attacks under direct orders from al-Sadr in case of "dire necessity," the cleric's spokesman Sheik Salah al-Obeidi told The Associated Press in the holy city of Najaf.

He also ruled out attacks on Iraqis and claimed Mahdi Army members had shown interest in making the program a success.

"Now our stance is to watch the political developments and the security agreement. We will see if there will be a withdrawal timetable or not. We will wait for the results. These cells have not yet conducted any operations," he added.

Two Iraqi officials close to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki have said government and U.S. negotiators are near an agreement on all American combat troops leaving Iraq by October 2010, with the last soldiers out three years after that. The officials all spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks are ongoing.

U.S. officials, however, insisted no dates had been agreed.

"It's premature to say what the aspiration goals and time horizons are going to be," and a date for troop withdrawals will not be "plucked out of thin air," White House press secretary Dana Perino said, speaking to reporters in Beijing on Friday where U.S. President George W. Bush is attending the Olympics.

Throughout the conflict, Mr. Bush steadfastly refused to accept any timetable for bringing U.S. troops home. Last month, however, Mr. Bush and al-Maliki agreed to set a "general time horizon" for ending the U.S. mission.

Both Iraqi and American officials agreed that the deal is not final and that a major unresolved issue is the U.S. demand for immunity for U.S. soldiers from prosecution under Iraqi law.

In northern Iraq, Kurdish leader Massoud al-Barzani visited the disputed city of Kirkuk and called for rival Kurds, Turkomen and Sunni Arabs "to have an open dialogue" to resolve their disagreement over sharing control of the oil-rich city.

His appeal came two days after the issue blocked passage of a provincial elections law, casting doubt whether U.S.-backed balloting can be held this year in the country's 18 provinces.

The bill failed because the sides were unable to come to terms on a power-sharing deal for the multiethnic region around the city of Kirkuk, the center of Iraq's northern oil fields.

Kurds consider Kirkuk their ancestral capital and want to incorporate it into their self-ruled region in the north. Most Arabs and Turkomen want Kirkuk to remain under central government control.

In Washington, the State Department expressed irritation that the parliament had gone into summer recess without having reached a compromise on the matter.

"The status of Kirkuk is indeed a sensitive issue that needs to be addressed in a serious fashion, but it is an issue that cannot be solved through the legislative mechanism of the election law," spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos said. "The election law should not be held hostage to that problem."

[beboldin09]

Al-Sadr Orders Militia To Disarm
Iraqi Shiite Cleric Will Keep Elite Force Until U.S. Troop Withdrawal Timetable Enacted


-It appears Al-Sadr is exercising yet another HUDNA. (another deception of ISLAM):

What is being touted as a ''cease-fire'' is something called a ''hudna.'' A hudna [also known as a hudibiyya or khudaibiya] is a tactical cease-fire that allows fundamentalist Muslim Arabs to rebuild their terrorist infrastructure in order to be more effective when the "cease-fire" is called off, and usually broken, by the Muslim militants themselves. HAMAS and Hezbollah use this tactic all the time. So did the PLO and Yasser Arafat.

This is easy research folks.

[armydog2]

ddhinnyc
My son has been in Bagdad since December, funny he hasn''t said anything about coming home earlier than his tour is supposed to run.he won''t be home till the end of February.

[beboldin09]

ddhinnyc
My son has been in Bagdad since December, funny he hasn''''t said anything about coming home earlier than his tour is supposed to run.he won''''t be home till the end of February.


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Posted by armydog2 at 12:46 PM : Aug 08, 2008

Not everyone comes home at the same time

[beboldin09]

You''re pretty liberal with the use of the word "we." You didn''t do anything.
Posted by avoice at 01:00 PM : Aug 08, 2008

It''s called supporting our troops. Maybe you should try it sometime instead of playing the defeatest cry baby role. How do you know who has or hasn''t served in the military anyhow?

[hotpaulie]

ddhinnyc - Yea it doesn''t surprise me al sadr is on the "untouchable" list...he does have control over a lot of fighters

But I don''t want the U.S. to have to go back to Iraq (if we do indeed get out) to fight al Sadr in a decade or so because he is acting up...the U.S. has to deal with al Sadr somehow or it may haunt us like when the first Bush president let Saddam off

[cfin5]

I do not believe this man in anything for one second. Bet he winked when he ordered this. He''s just cooling his heels till after our election. Good time to regroup and rearm,....he''s done it before.

[armydog2]

I know not everyone comes home at the same time, he is claiming his friend''s tour is being cut short of his 15 month rotation. My son has said nothing about his tour or anyone elses being cut.

[notblue]

avoice, explain how your indifference to the attrocities commited by Jihadists and your whining and critisism have helped Americas efforts.

[ajaxtheleast]

"WE CUT AND WON!" Repubs are amazing fellows.

And when OBAMA suggested this they called it???,,,

[TommyCraig]

"You''''re pretty liberal with the use of the word "we." You didn''''t do anything".
Posted by avoice at 01:00 PM : Aug 08, 2008
Sure he did. Unlike many on this board, he probably has shown great support for our US men and women in uniform as opposed to criticizing every effort of the military.

[donbl1]

I guess W is nearly wrapping up his war before he leaves office.

He needs to wrap it up so the next guy can focus on domestic issues.

The Russian/Georgia war starting is not good for our elections..........

[downtowner97]

New rule: You don''t get to call a guy who hasn''t had a shower since birth and runs around in the street wearing pajamas and carrying a greasy knockoff of a Soviet era assault rifle when he''s not herding goats "elite".

[der0419]

New rule: You don''''t get to call a guy who hasn''''t had a shower since birth and runs around in the street wearing pajamas and carrying a greasy knockoff of a Soviet era assault rifle when he''''s not herding goats "elite".


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Took the words right out of my mouth. I read "elite fighting units" and said to myself, "what, so now they fire from the shoulder instead of spraying from the hip and running after 5 shots?"

On a different note: Al-Sadr can not be allowed to dictate U.S. policy in Iraq by threatening renewed attacks if he doesn''t like what he hears coming out of the diplomatic negoatiations. If you don''t like what you hear, man up and use political channels. It may sound paradoxical, but using legions of brainwashed fools running around with Kalashnikovs as your minions in an attempt to bully U.S. policy makers is a cowardly thing to do.

[der0419]

New rule: You don''''t get to call a guy who hasn''''t had a shower since birth and runs around in the street wearing pajamas and carrying a greasy knockoff of a Soviet era assault rifle when he''''s not herding goats "elite".


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Took the words right out of my mouth. I read "elite fighting units" and said to myself, "what, so now they fire from the shoulder instead of spraying from the hip and running after 5 shots?"

On a different note: Al-Sadr can not be allowed to dictate U.S. policy in Iraq by threatening renewed attacks if he doesn''t like what he hears coming out of the diplomatic negoatiations. If you don''t like what you hear, man up and use political channels. It may sound paradoxical, but useing legions of brainwashed fools running around with Kalashnikovs as your minions in an attempt to bully U.S. policy makers is a cowardly thing to do.

[lochlan-2009]

How much did we have to pay this guy?

[oneamerican_]

Kind of a moot point for al Sadr to call for his militia to disband - the Iraqi Army has already accomplished this without Sadr''s help.

Now that Sadr has announced his intentions, he should expect the Iraqi government to crack down on him even further.

[kesac4650]

Al-Sadr is caving and trying to put a good face on it. He doesn''t have balls enough to show to return to Iraq. He is hiding in Iran, "studying". Maliki will arrest him and put him on trial just like Saddam the day he returns.
Iraq is wrapping up. Obama, Reid and Pelosi will have to find someone else to surrender to.

[oneamerican_]

"Iraq is wrapping up. Obama, Reid and Pelosi will have to find someone else to surrender to."

Posted by kesac4650 at 04:20 PM : Aug 08, 2008


I agree. Maybe the Dems can surrender to the call of the Republicans to come back to congress and open the debate for energy legislation?

Otherwise the Democrats will continue to sink into their quagmire of "staying the course" on denying American energy alternatives to the public.

[alohaone1]

Who would have thought that it was possible that Al-SAdr agree to disarm a year ago , and the Dems and Obama are still trying to deny the success of the Surge in Iraq , talk about State of Denial..They deny the success of the Surge , they deny the reality of the need to drill our own oil , they deny the emergencies of millions of Americans who are victims of oil speculations all because a country with 300 mil. people who consume most oil has in the last 30 years refused to build new refineries and refused to become independent of Foreign Oil, they deny that drilling our own oil is way better than getting on our knees and beg people to drill for us , they deny the well-being of the American people and SOON , in NOvember , the Americans will one more time deny the DEms of the Presidency , yes , the dems want to talk about State of Denials , they are about to see the Results of such!

[beboldin09]

It''''''''s called supporting our troops. Maybe you should try it sometime instead of playing the defeatest cry baby role. How do you know who has or hasn''''''''t served in the military anyhow?

Posted by BeBoldin09 at 01:03 PM : Aug 08, 2008
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Yeah, putting that magnetic ribbon on your car really paved the way to victory.



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Posted by avoice at 01:09 PM : Aug 08, 2008

Answer the question avoice:

How do you know who has served and who hasn''t served on these forums?

[alohaone1]

How much did we have to pay this guy?


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Posted by lochlan at 04:14 PM : Aug 08, 2008

Do you think this guy can be BOUGHT with our money ??? You must be one of the ignorant LIBS who continue to deny the success of the Surge and to think that the security now in Iraq is not the work of the Surge and of our brave troops but rather a natural process happened on its own when muslim fanatics suddenly feel tired of violence and give up OR it was the results of us giving money to them to give up arms ...My friends , you do not understand Muslim Fanatics, period!. Bin Laden has 300 mil. in the bank when he plan to bomb America , Al-Sadr can get more money from Iran than ever from us and yet , Iranian money does not come with strings attached to Human Rights and Freedom and DEmocracy , so it is the more better. These guys are not short of money and are not in need of sources of money . For us to leave Iraq in Chaos and in their control , they benefit much more from oil and from support from Iran and other Terrorists'' financiers , They do not need and do not want money from us , so , it is quite ignorant of you to even think that these guys are bought out ! They are beaten badly by our genius general and our brave troops and see that there is no other way out for them but to give up and so they DID , simple as that !

[endofempire]

alohalone: Yes, the Iraqi militants gave up naturally because they got tired... Of their own people telling them to stop the mayhem, as the only thing they achieved was to bring more infidels to their holy land to show them what a real fight looks like (not the bums they fought for nearly a decade in Iran). No, this turn of events was brought to you courtesy of 82nd Airborne Infantry-style attitude adjustment.

[labrat9999]

I can''t believe that some stupid GOP Republicans still think the surge is responsible for all this! If you think so you need to look at the timeline of the events, and the fact that unlike McSame and his 100 year war talk..the ONLY talk that has decreased the violence is the same talk that Senator Obama said needed to take place.. POLICTICAL TOGETHER WITH THE US AGREEING TO LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY!! Trust me if Dumb Bunny Bush would or McSame would have said NO WE AIN''T LEAV''EN FOR 100 YEARS you would have had more blood shed than you have ever seen before. And in any case, WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE INVADED THEIR COUNTRY..THERE WAS ANY MWD STUPID!!

[stn_sage]

NOW, we know WHERE at least a part of that $8 billion dollars that Bremer and Bush "lost", is going!

Specifically, to buy al-Sadr''s cooperation---at least through the Fall 2008 November elections! How nice!

[endofempire]

Al Gore in 2003: "Nevertheless, Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq%u2019s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power. Moreover, no international law can prevent the United States from taking actions to protect its vital interests, when it is manifestly clear that there is a choice to be made between law and survival"

[alohaone1]

NOW, we know WHERE at least a part of that $8 billion dollars that Bremer and Bush "lost", is going!
Specifically, to buy al-Sadr''''s cooperation--
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Posted by stn_sage at 05:24 PM : Aug 08, 2008

YOU CRACKED ME UP BIG TIME! Do you think this guy can be BOUGHT with our money ??? You must be one of the ignorant LIBS who continue to deny the success of the Surge and to think that the security now in Iraq is not the work of the Surge and of our brave troops but rather a natural process happened on its own when muslim fanatics suddenly feel tired of violence and give up OR it was the results of us giving money to them to give up arms ...My friends , you do not understand Muslim Fanatics, period!. Bin Laden has 300 mil. in the bank when he plan to bomb America , Al-Sadr can get more money from Iran than ever from us and yet , Iranian money does not come with strings attached to Human Rights and Freedom and DEmocracy , so it is the more better. These guys are not short of money and are not in need of sources of money . For us to leave Iraq in Chaos and in their control , they benefit much more from oil and from support from Iran and other Terrorists'''' financiers , They do not need and do not want money from us , so , it is quite ignorant of you to even think that these guys are bought out ! They are beaten badly by our genius general and our brave troops and see that there is no other way out for them but to give up and so they DID , simple as that !

[endofempire]

It is all so easy to criticize after the fact, when the truth is that we all wanted our pound of flesh after 9-11 and any brown looking person wearing a turban was a good target. When it was popular to do so, the gold standard of the Democratic party, Al Gore, Mr. Green himself, pushed for the creation of a coalition and pushed for war.

[alohaone1]

I can''''t believe that some stupid GOP Republicans still think the surge is responsible for all this! If you think so you need to look at the timeline of the events, and the fact that unlike McSame and his 100 year war talk..the ONLY talk that has decreased the violence is the same talk that Senator Obama said needed to take place.. POLICTICAL TOGETHER WITH THE US AGREEING TO LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY!! Trust me if Dumb Bunny Bush would or McSame would have said NO WE AIN''''T LEAV''''EN FOR 100 YEARS you would have had more blood shed than you have ever seen before. And in any case, WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE INVADED THEIR COUNTRY..THERE WAS ANY MWD STUPID!!


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Posted by labrat9999 at 05:19 PM : Aug 08, 2008

I BET you even think that Obama somehow deserve credits for the success of the Surge even though he was ignorantly against it ! Yep , Obama wanted to cut and run and the muslim fanatics were so afraid that if the US follow Obama''s plan , they would be left with the whole country to themselves to run and do what ever they want and the thought of that is so scary that they gave up arms , and that is why Obama should be credited , after all, his cut and run strategy DID scare them ( at least the Libs probably think so ! )

[oneamerican_]

Liberals have clearly lost their War on America - and now it''s all over for them, except for the shouting, but that too will fade soon enough.

It''s back to the fringe margins of society for you, liberals.

[endofempire]

The beauty of the written record is that we can always go back to it and compare our corrupt politicians both then and now... Here is the cornerstone of Democrats in Congress, Pelosi, back in ''02: "Pelosi categorically declared on NBC%u2019s Meet the Press that %u201CSaddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There%u2019s no question about that"
Here is the full article in a very "Progressive" news source: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0122-08.htm

[ioweign]

The beauty of the written record is that we can always go back to it and compare our corrupt politicians both then and now... Here is the cornerstone of Democrats in Congress, Pelosi, back in ''''02: "Pelosi categorically declared on NBC%u2019s Meet the Press that %u201CSaddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There%u2019s no question about that"
Here is the full article in a very "Progressive" news source: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0122
-08.htm

Posted by endofempire at 05:49 PM : Aug 08, 2008

Pelosi is/was not the "Decider" - just maybe you should be looking at the source(s) of intel that fueled remarks from her and "others". There were 935 that are well documented...

[kesac4650]

Al-Sad''r is caving. Trying to save face but caving in as he hides in Iran, afraid to return, and be indicted by the Maliki government.

[firststate]

IOWEIGN
They don''t want to be bothered by the facts about the sources of the intel any more than the administration wanted to be bothered by the facts about the defunct WMD programs. They ordered the intel they wanted and they got it. There was a real division of labor in the intelligence community. The real intelligence operatives were questioning the administration''s assertions as fast as the intelligence forgers could create the new "made-to-order" evidence for the administration.

[libsluv2spit]

Pelosi is/was not the "Decider" - just maybe you should be looking at the source(s) of intel that fueled remarks from her and "others". There were 935 that are well documented...


Posted by IOWEIGN at 06:19 PM : Aug 08, 2008
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935 lies..and yet YOU MORONS CANNOT IMPEACH???????

your right..I rather have bush than someone who share your weak minded..all whinney..conspiracy theory having liberal mindset..

[libsluv2spit]

To win to this war, all we need to do is stop listening to these weak minded liberals..without that support, Muqtada al-Sadr si helpless..just like how nancy pelosi and Barack Obama and the DNC lost interest in Iraq...Muqtada al-Sadr knows it..and he knows its time to change strategy...

[michtop]

The U.S. should of killed sadr many years ago. Nothing more then a dumb dune ****.Democrats will eventually destroy this country.

[stevex47]

Wow, there''s lots of kool aid drinkers on tonite. Salivating on how your gestapo did that Mayor and his wife?

boosh''s success in Iraq rests entirely on Al Sadr. If he tells his militia to stop, they stop and vice, versa.

boosh and co. opened the door for civil war, and those folks are tired of killing themselves because of what boosh started.

Now, get back to your kool aid reich wingers....

[yankeerebel7]

Well the good news just keeps coming in. Positive developments in Iraq seem like almost a daily occurence now days.

[yankeerebel7]

This is also a huge blow to Iran, which has been using the Mahdi Army as a vehicle to increase its influence in the country.

[ubrew12]

Excellent news! Our troops are needed in Georgia...

[hungry1968]

To win to this war, all we need to do is stop listening to these weak minded liberals..without that support, Muqtada al-Sadr si helpless..just like how nancy pelosi and Barack Obama and the DNC lost interest in Iraq...Muqtada al-Sadr knows it..and he knows its time to change strategy...

Posted by libsluv2spit at 09:59 PM : Aug 08, 2008






Considering that the "weak minded liberals" have been ignored in the first 5 years of the Iraq war, how can you possibly blame them for "not winning"?

[stn_sage]

alohaone1:
Posted by alohaone1 at 05:29 PM : Aug 08, 2008
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1.I''m glad I amuse you.
2.Yes, he can and has been bought with U.S.money! How long, who knows?
3.Fighting is down,there are many reasons,the surge isn''t the primary one.
4.Security? It''s war torn! Iraq''s in pieces! There''s no security.
5.YES,we give them money to get their cooperation and guns. If you followed the war, you''d know this. It''s been S.O.P. for decades! You don''t know much
about Arab-U.S. history. I''m sorry you''re offended by this, but that''s how it is!
6.Iranians won''t give Iraq money or weapons WITHOUT ''strings attached''.
7.HUH? You think Iran or Iraq is not short of money? Wrong. They showed recent profit but it''s not enough to rebuild their infrastructure and help the public, etc..
8.You say they don''t want our money! They want money from WHOEVER will give it to them!
I suggest you tell your insane money theory to someone from the Bush administration who will promptly laugh in your face!
9.They aren''t beaten---yet.
10.I wouldn''t have Petraeus on my general staff. He lost nearly a quarter million weapons. He''s either an idiot or a gun-runner who''s armed the Middle-East!
11.They haven''t given up. They''re Arabs.

Part1

[stn_sage]

alohaone1:
Posted by alohaone1 at 05:29 PM : Aug 08, 2008
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12.You are incredibly ignorant when it comes to the subject of the Iraq war.

In closing, read more about the war, analyze what you read, see, and hear about it.
Maybe, read a history book about the Mid-East. Stop listening to rightwing spinners, their purpose is to make you ignorant regarding the Iraq war! And, it''s working!!

Part2

[motown67usa]

Sadr is trying to refashion himself as an anti-American politician after the setbacks the government has dealt his militia this year. He said he was going to disarm most of his militia weeks ago. The newest twist that he''ll end his militia entirely if the U.S. leaves is electionerring for the coming provincial elections. The problem is, Sadr can say he''ll disarm if the U.S. leaves, but Maliki can say he is the one that got the to withdraw in the first place, thus outdoing Sadr. For more see: http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2008/08/maliki-hits-campaign-trail.html

[stn_sage]

Considering that the "weak minded liberals" have been ignored in the first 5 years of the Iraq war, how can you possibly blame them for "not winning"?

Posted by hungry1968 at 12:51 AM : Aug 09, 2008
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You''re asking this question of a rightwing nutjob and avid supporter of every mistake Bush & Cheney have made in conducting the Iraq war, and you wonder how they could blame it on liberals?!! C''mon, who else are they going to blame?! THEY aren''t going to accept any responsibility for what THEY DID! SHEESH!

[hermitdave]

This is such a silly song and dance. This guy has to be just part of the system. The BUSH AMERICA invaded his country. They need to be driven from his country. Other wize it is just a silly game.

[stn_sage]

Considering that the "weak minded liberals" have been ignored in the first 5 years of the Iraq war, how can you possibly blame them for "not winning"?

Posted by hungry1968 at 12:51 AM : Aug 09, 2008
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BTW, I do agree with you in the point you''re attempting to make with this person! :)

[acarponzo]

Yes, I really do want world peace!!!!!!

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Get your bops in at

http://www.bop-o-rama.com

Your bops really count!!!!!

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[skyk-2009]

Sadr is trying to refashion himself as an anti-American politician after the setbacks the government has dealt his militia this year. He said he was going to disarm most of his militia weeks ago. The newest twist that he''''ll end his militia entirely if the U.S. leaves is electionerring for the coming provincial elections. The problem is, Sadr can say he''''ll disarm if the U.S. leaves, but Maliki can say he is the one that got the to withdraw in the first place, thus outdoing Sadr. For more see: http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2008/0
8/maliki-hits-campaign-trail.html

Posted by motown67usa at 01:36 AM : Aug 09, 2008

What difference does it make? At least they are getting along long enough to get our troops out of this mess. George W. Bush should be taken out and HORSE WHIPPED for what he did here!!

[latrocinor-2009]

What difference does it make? At least they are getting along long enough to get our troops out of this mess. George W. Bush should be taken out and HORSE WHIPPED for what he did here!!

Posted by skyk
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The reality is the this is just a continuation of a policy formulated and agreements made with the current Iraqi power structure leaders long before President Bush was President.

It''s very comfortable to have a moderate view of history rather than a Moveon.org type of knee-jerk hate based BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome).

The lack of the syndrome allows a person to attend a various social functions without blurting our some type of smear against President Bush.

Be patient - soon you''ll have Obama and a perfect world.