Man Held For Obama Assassination Threat
Raymond Hunter Geisel Had Gun, Knives, Ammo, Body Armor; Training As Bail Bondsman
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Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, was arrested by the Secret Service on Saturday in Miami and was ordered held at Miami's downtown detention center without bail Thursday by a federal magistrate.
A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."
Obama was most recently in Florida on Aug. 1-2 but did not visit the South Florida area.
Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that "he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president's head," according to the Secret Service.
Geisel denied in a written statement to a Secret Service agent that he ever made those threats, and the documents don't indicate that he ever took steps to carry out any assassination. He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against President Bush.
Geisel's court-appointed attorney declined comment. The charge of threatening a major candidate for president or vice president carries a maximum prison sentence of five years.
The Obama campaign declined comment Thursday on the alleged threat.
In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.
A search of Geisel's 1998 Ford Explorer and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armor-piercing types, body armor, military-style fatigues and a machete. The SUV, which has Maine license plates, was wired with flashing red and yellow emergency lights.
Geisel told the Secret Service he was originally from Bangor, Maine, and had been living recently in a houseboat in the Florida Keys town of Marathon, according to court documents. He said he used the handgun for training for the bail bondsman class, had the knives for protection and used the machete to cut brush in Maine.
Authorities in Maine said Geisel pleaded guilty to a charge of criminal threatening after a 2007 incident and spent 48 hours in a Bangor jail.
Police in Hampden, a town just outside of Bangor, received a complaint from Geisel's brother on Oct. 18, 2007 that Geisel had threatened him with a knife, Hampden police Sgt. Dan Stewart said. Geisel was charged with criminal threatening and terrorizing; the second charge was later dropped.
The Secret Service affidavit said Geisel told agents that he suffered from psychiatric problems including post-traumatic stress disorder, but he couldn't provide the names of any facilities where he sought treatment.
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- wellrowdy, i asked a legitmate question, and you didn''t answer it. You''re just not very good at this, no surprise.
And ''berty_1776, YOU are a creep, and an embarassment to your chosen name. - Reply to this comment
- stratmaster
My opinion is that we never seem to get qualified candidates to choose from. The parties put up their candidates and we choose the lesser evil. - Reply to this comment
- shazam
My apologies if i misconstrued what i thought were anti American comments. Ron Paul was also my first choice. - Reply to this comment
- barbaraf4
To hold a position in law enforcement, security or bail bond retrieval agent requiring permit to carry a weapon you cannot have a mental instability incident on your record. Apparrently this man has never been diagnoised or treated for a mental condition. - Reply to this comment
- HAHAHAHA
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- mcvet...are you here..i want to talk to you about your threats...helllllooo?
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- Seeing as there''''s only 2 candidates for POTUS - why don''''t most Repugs like you ever post about why you think McCain is any better ? Then you post about questionable life-long ties ?? Keating 5 mean anything to you ??? or the name ''''Charles R Black'''''''' ???? - Now imagine any and all the names you''''ve heard supporting and clamouring for Obama that you consider despicable and questionable, all of them combined do not come close to the vermin that''''s ''''Charles R. Black'''' - He''''s the face of McCain''''s Campaign and it may surprise you that no one''''''''s making an issue of this just yet. And then, we start with the lobbyists and his extra-marital BS ..... I think you''''ve been badly lied to. I''''d advise anyone to try and get educated. Risky and Unwise ?? ROTFLMAO !Cheers!
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Posted by parrots11 at 11:14 AM : Aug 08, 2008
I can take care of that for ya! McCain has passed a LOT of bipartisan legislation.
McCain will protect this country with all it''s might!
McCain has NO ties to Islamofast bastwards that get their jollies killing Americans! - Reply to this comment
- ...thousands are dying each month.
Posted by obama8years at 04:43 PM : Aug 08, 2008
Source? More than 2 months, at least?
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Posted by actornaught at 05:05 PM : Aug 08, 2008
Guess you didn''t see did ya, when the bastwards bombed the KRAP out of India! Of COURSE you didn''t! - Reply to this comment
- Posted by obama8years at 04:43 PM : Aug 08, 2008
Bigot. - Reply to this comment
- ...thousands are dying each month.
Posted by obama8years at 04:43 PM : Aug 08, 2008
Source? More than 2 months, at least? - Reply to this comment
- Obama has connections to many people. He worked in inner city Chicago, so it''''s not surprising that he would have ties to some people with racist views. He also has many friendships with whites and personas in other ethnic groups that span decades. You may even have some racist friends yourself. Does that necessarily mean that you are also racist? He identifies with African Americans, even though some don''''t accept him because his background doesn''''t include the American slavery experience.
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NICE SPIN, OBAMA has more Radical associates than Arafat did. Obama choose for his Family to Attend the Rev Wright Racist Rants on America. What kind of brainwashing has this done to Obama. - Reply to this comment
- Goes to show you how desparate people are to make sure a Marxist does not get into the Whitehouse. I think its awful that someone would want to assasinate anyone no matter what the cause is. But Islamic Nazis are doing to christians and muslims all over the world. And thousands are dying each month.
BAN MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW!!!! - Reply to this comment
- Listen up,
There''s gonna be a new sheriff in town real soon people. Get use to it. Got it hillbillies?! - Reply to this comment
- What a bunch of racist morons on here today!
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- Whites will lose control of America if Obama wins.
...Posted by usais11 at 10:50 AM : Aug 08, 2008
Why would that be a problem for you or anybody? Whites will be a minority, if they aren''t already. - Reply to this comment
- Except for the obvious racial overtones and his lifelong ties to very racist people. You think his writings qualify him as a president. When one takes a close look at his extremely left policy thoughts, lack of experience, continual flopping of policy positions and ties to some very anti-American people, one must rationallly conclude that Obama would be a risky and unwise choice as representative of ALL American citizens.
Posted by mbcsmith
Seeing as there''s only 2 candidates for POTUS - why don''t most Repugs like you ever post about why you think McCain is any better ? Then you post about questionable life-long ties ?? Keating 5 mean anything to you ??? or the name ''Charles R Black'''' ???? - Now imagine any and all the names you''ve heard supporting and clamouring for Obama that you consider despicable and questionable, all of them combined do not come close to the vermin that''s ''Charles R. Black'' - He''s the face of McCain''s Campaign and it may surprise you that no one''''s making an issue of this just yet. And then, we start with the lobbyists and his extra-marital BS ..... I think you''ve been badly lied to. I''d advise anyone to try and get educated. Risky and Unwise ?? ROTFLMAO !Cheers! - Reply to this comment
- Whites will lose control of America if Obama wins.
Try not to be ''ignorant'' of that. - Reply to this comment
- mbcsmith:
Obama has connections to many people. He worked in inner city Chicago, so it''s not surprising that he would have ties to some people with racist views. He also has many friendships with whites and personas in other ethnic groups that span decades. You may even have some racist friends yourself. Does that necessarily mean that you are also racist? He identifies with African Americans, even though some don''t accept him because his background doesn''t include the American slavery experience.
I don''t suggest that his book alone qualifies him for President. Look also at his accomplishments, his intelligence, the people he chooses for friends, who his advisors are, etc. He''s a he*ll of a lot more qualified than Dubya ever was, although I''ll concede that''s not saying much. IMO he will at least be a good President, and I think he has the potential to be a great President. - Reply to this comment
- Except for the obvious racial overtones and his lifelong ties to very racist people. You think his writings qualify him as a president. When one takes a close look at his extremely left policy thoughts, lack of experience, continual flopping of policy positions and ties to some very anti-American people, one must rationallly conclude that Obama would be a risky and unwise choice as representative of ALL American citizens.
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Posted by mbcsmith
Typical response from a very racist individual. Your racist logic wont allow you to ever believe that a black man can be a president for ALL of the people. You dont have the ABILITY to realize that Obama isnt running for the president of black america ONLY!!!! - Reply to this comment
- A person who reads his book with an open mind will find Obama an intelligent and complex person, and very worthy and capable for the leadership position he is pursuing.
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Posted by flreason at 08:36 AM : Aug 08, 2008
Except for the obvious racial overtones and his lifelong ties to very racist people. You think his writings qualify him as a president. When one takes a close look at his extremely left policy thoughts, lack of experience, continual flopping of policy positions and ties to some very anti-American people, one must rationallly conclude that Obama would be a risky and unwise choice as representative of ALL American citizens. - Reply to this comment

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