Man Held For Obama Assassination Threat

Raymond Hunter Geisel Had Gun, Knives, Ammo, Body Armor; Training As Bail Bondsman

(AP)  A man who authorities said was keeping weapons and military-style gear in his hotel room and car appeared in court Thursday on charges he threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, was arrested by the Secret Service on Saturday in Miami and was ordered held at Miami's downtown detention center without bail Thursday by a federal magistrate.

A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."

Obama was most recently in Florida on Aug. 1-2 but did not visit the South Florida area.

Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that "he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president's head," according to the Secret Service.

Geisel denied in a written statement to a Secret Service agent that he ever made those threats, and the documents don't indicate that he ever took steps to carry out any assassination. He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against President Bush.

Geisel's court-appointed attorney declined comment. The charge of threatening a major candidate for president or vice president carries a maximum prison sentence of five years.

The Obama campaign declined comment Thursday on the alleged threat.

In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.

A search of Geisel's 1998 Ford Explorer and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armor-piercing types, body armor, military-style fatigues and a machete. The SUV, which has Maine license plates, was wired with flashing red and yellow emergency lights.

Geisel told the Secret Service he was originally from Bangor, Maine, and had been living recently in a houseboat in the Florida Keys town of Marathon, according to court documents. He said he used the handgun for training for the bail bondsman class, had the knives for protection and used the machete to cut brush in Maine.

Authorities in Maine said Geisel pleaded guilty to a charge of criminal threatening after a 2007 incident and spent 48 hours in a Bangor jail.

Police in Hampden, a town just outside of Bangor, received a complaint from Geisel's brother on Oct. 18, 2007 that Geisel had threatened him with a knife, Hampden police Sgt. Dan Stewart said. Geisel was charged with criminal threatening and terrorizing; the second charge was later dropped.

The Secret Service affidavit said Geisel told agents that he suffered from psychiatric problems including post-traumatic stress disorder, but he couldn't provide the names of any facilities where he sought treatment.

[bigwhtpony]

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[mythoughtsr]

You all think this is news? You should all rent Eddie Murphy''s "Delirious" and watch the part about Jesse Jackson running for president. I can''t stand either one of them but a black man as president? Danger danger to that man. I would NOT want to be him and if I were a secret service agent, I would be retiring early. I wouldn''t take a bullet for him.

[obama8years]

WHO ELSE IS SUPPORTING OBAMA...HAMAS, IRAN.

By Aaron Klein
) 2008 WorldNetDaily


JERUSALEM %u2013 Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama''s campaign.

Donations of this nature would violate election laws, including prohibitions on receiving contributions from foreigners and guidelines against accepting more than $2,300 from one individual during a single election, Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission, told WND in response to a query.

The contributions also raise numerous questions about the Obama campaign''s lax online donation form, which apparently allows for the possibility of foreign contributions.

Last week, the Atlas Shrugs blog outlined a series of donations in 2007 made to Obama''s campaign from two individuals, Monir Edwan and Hosam Edwan, totaling $29,521.54.

[sistatee-2009]

The border is awash with illegals toting guns and shooting anything or anyone that moves, but we can''t do squat about THAT. But let someone MENTION that he MIGHT do something to Obama, and The FBI, Secret Service, ATF, CIA, NSA and God only know what other agencies are breaking down his door and arresting everybody within ten miles of the place. Obama''s got more guns protecting his bony _ss than you can count, and he ain''t even president!

[papabc]

Why didn''t the head line read

"Man held in U.S. on charge of threatening G. W. Bush"

Thought the President (even Bush) was more improtant than Obama or McCain.

[papabc]

FYI in case you miss read this:

Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that "he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president''s head," according to the Secret Service.

[drillusion4u]

Another white trash living in his SUV!!

[rudy654-2009]

I am not at all surprised. I have found the racists on here making similar threats or near threats, saying that they will never permit a black man to become president no matter how the people vote. Rowdy even thought that one such comment I found was wonderful.

[gwagener]

Some people clame to love America, but they hate democracy and threaten to fix democracy''s "mistakes" with guns or bombs. If you truely love America you have to accept that democracy is not going to go your way all the time. There are plenty of legal ways to try to make this country what you think it ought to be.

[iphyt4u]

Obama will be a great President. Bush and his neocon friends will try to assisinate Obama, but once again the Bush administration will fail. What doesn''t kill you will only make you stronger. Obama is on the rise!

[peterp111]

And this is just the beginging. Why, if any, are people surprised? Not that I prefer in any way a racist country- but this country is not evolved to the point where racism is absent- so in effect- this candidate will have major problems now and until he is no longer a candidate.

Generally people are not that bright- and this is why they cannot see through the facade of Mr Obama. McCain is not another Bush, you and many others have it backwards. It is Obama who is the liar, and if only people were smarter they would open their eyes and see this fact.

[gwagener]

Thought the President (even Bush) was more improtant than Obama or McCain.

Posted by papabc at 05:05 PM : Aug 07, 2008

Perhaps there was not enough evidence of threats against president Bush. The article quotes only one person making that claim.

[kazoodan]

I think because he is a sitting U.S. Senator it is considered assassination. Just a guess.

[papabc]

Sound to me like the liberal nuts on the board and the (AP) could care less about anyone or anything but 1 agenda.

The over throw of the American way of life, as it is today, and the down fall of the Government.

They see Socialism & Marxism as the way to go.

[irliberal]

"Man Held For Threat To Assassinate Obama"

Typical republican / rovian neocon.

Kill the innocents.

[beboldin09]

Typical republican / rovian neocon.

Kill the innocents.


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Posted by IRLiberal at 05:22 PM : Aug 07, 2008


You are beyond ignorant.

[causeway_m]

No surprise to find that the would be assasin was a dumb piece of southern white trailer trash

[causeway_m]

McCain is not another Bush,

Posted by Peterp111 at 05:18 PM : Aug 07, 2008"

Yeah - it''s possible that he may be even dumber than Bush

[smashwl7]

Rush, Sean, Karl Rove and Fox News are to blame! Anti-American Scum bags!

[papabc]

Posted by gwagener
Perhaps there was not enough evidence of threats against president Bush. The article quotes only one person making that claim.
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Thought 1 person mentioning an attempt against a President would have been enough to at least investigate?

If, today, one person mentioned a new plot to fly planes into building shouldn''t that be enough to look into the matter?

Of 48 people I wonder how many heard both threats.

" Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class. "

[excoachken]

Just another Loyal Limbaugh Bigot doing what he is told.

[cbsfan73]

"No surprise to find that the would be assasin was a dumb piece of southern white trailer trash"

"Geisel told the Secret Service he was originally from Bangor, Maine"

Are you in Canada or just geographically illiterate?

[irliberal]

There are people in this thread that took offense to the word "assassination", which is usually meant in reference to a political leader. The would-be neocon shooter said that "if Obama gets elected", meaning that "assassination" would be a proper term. Even though Obama isn''t elected president yet, the neocons here took offense to the word "assassination" because, to them, it infers that Obama will become president. And that made their hearts tremble and their undies wet.

These are the people with the guns. These are the angry bigots who see all not like them with pure hatred. These are the traitors, not worth of being called "American".

[iphyt4u]

Mcbush will be more of the same. National defense dollars going to friends, a terrible economy, feds reading your emails, and listening to your phone calls. Mcbush will be more of the same.

[papabc]

Just another Loyal Limbaugh Bigot doing what he is told.

Posted by excoachken
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Did you read..
This guy threatened both a Republican and a Socialist-Marxist (I mean Democrat).

[gwagener]

Thought 1 person mentioning an attempt against a President would have been enough to at least investigate?

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Posted by papabc at 05:30 PM : Aug 07, 2008

Investigation is one thing. Charging the guy and taking him into custody is another. I am just saying they think there is enough evidence to get a conviction on the Obama threat and there is not enough evidence on the Bush threat.

[kazoodan]

If, today, one person mentioned a new plot to fly planes into building shouldn''''t that be enough to look into the matter?

Posted by papabc at 05:30 PM : Aug 07, 2008

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Not if Bush is in charge.

[skyk-2009]

Did you read..
This guy threatened both a Republican and a Socialist-Marxist (I mean Democrat).

Posted by Papabc at 05:35 PM : Aug 07, 2008

You people are so sad!! After Joe McCarthy it would appear we wouldn''t have people like this around. I mean it''s embarrassing to have people with Intelligence read a post like this... people who actually KNOW what a Marxist is. This graduate of the 6th grade hasn''t a clue, he''s just a Republican grabbing for any straw he can find!

[skyk-2009]

Don''''t you have suicide bombing101 class to attend today muslim?

What about your 5 prayers facing mecca, have you squeezed them into your schedule yet today?


Posted by BeBoldin09 at 05:30 PM : Aug 07, 2008

LOL Have YOU been to a Republican Party Rally in the South?? LOL I live in Kentucky and I''m here to tell you the poster is RIGHT on the mark. LOL

[iphyt4u]

Barrack Obama is a skinny kid from the South side of Chicago. He''s a Bears fan, and he''s going to be a great President. Very different than the spoiled frat boy from Texas-Bush.

[six-six-seis]

GoBama.....

McShrub is the same c.rap weve had for 8 miserable years.

[nordeck52]

Barrack Obama is a skinny kid from the South side of Chicago. He''''s a Bears fan, and he''''s going to be a great President. Very different than the spoiled frat boy from Texas-Bush.

Posted by iphyt4u at 05:53 PM : Aug 07, 2008


The Bears? They suck! Go Packers all the way. Aside from the embarrassment Favre is causing all of us GB fans now, though. .

[whitemale08]

How dare this guy raise a finger against the last hope for America!!!

[Syndicate]

Your not suppose to say I will shoot him your suppose to say I would like to see someone shoot him.

[mandalay-bay]

McCain is not another Bush,

Posted by Peterp111 at 05:18 PM : Aug 07, 2008"


Keep telling yourself that if it will make you feel better as you pencil in your vote for FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS C.RAP....

[hunterdon6]

the guy was probably good friends of or hired by the Clintons!

[grammawhamma]

If McCain or Obama die before the Nov election does the next runner up for that party take their place?

[mandalay-bay]

If McCain or Obama die before the Nov election does the next runner up for that party take their place?


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Posted by GrammaWhamma at 06:36 PM : Aug 07, 2008

The Secret Service just officially put you on watch.

[hhroams]

Did you know that Texas Instrument Corporation in Dallas, Tx. is giving Muslims a room to go to when they want to pray to Mecca or if Al Qaeda wants to hold a terrorist training class there also.

They have not set aside a room for Baptists, Catholics, *G*A*Y*S*, beer drinkers, Wiccan witches, Rednecks, KKK, Mormons, Pentecostals, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc but they have for Muslims!!!!

What next?

[republic1776]

This is Bull...
He was "thinking"
1984 has passed.
I take my life in my hands, every time I leave my house.
Oh, no we can''t have Obama, have to deal with life in America, like I do!

[hhroams]

Did you know that Texas Instrument Corporation in Dallas, Tx. is giving Muslims a room to go to when they want to pray to Mecca or if Al Qaeda wants to hold a terrorist training class there also.

They have not set aside a room for Baptists, Catholics, *G*A*Y*S*, beer drinkers, Wiccan witches, Rednecks, KKK, Mormons, Pentecostals, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc but they have for Muslims!!!!

What next?

[republic1776]

Obama is the new Queen of America.
If he farts, someone in the Communist Party has to step up and say; it was their ***.

[micma-2009]

More proof (as if we needed any) that modern conservatism is, in fact, a serious mental illness.


lol!

[republic1776]

HHROAMS,
Vote for Obama, and the Socialist party.

[mr2258]

Democrat Mayor of Detroit-Obama Ally,sent to jail.I hope Obama is next.

[republic1776]

micma,
Mental illness is liberalism.
If you had a daughter, would the same rules apply?
Is your daughter named "Paris"

[rylowe-2009]

"Barrack Obama is a skinny kid from the South side of Chicago. He''''s a Bears fan, and he''''s going to be a great President. Very different than the spoiled frat boy from Texas-Bush."

Actually he is a rich kid from Hawaii and only says he likes the bears because that''s who his constituents like.

[mr2258]

Mark this date down Aug.7,2008.Obama lost election.America would not except socialism.

[foxmulder33]

I don''t understand what folks are attempting to accomplish by spewing garbage and hate in these comment sections. Get off your fat rears and start making improvements in your own neighborhoods. Do something positive instead of wasting space and air. Obama is a lock for the Presidency. Don''t waste the next eight years crying.

[mindlessmissy]

Send him to Guantanamo Bay ... Introduce to him some of that fine "advanced interrogation techniques" we''ve so artfully mastered ...

And then let him kiss President Obama''s feet in January Next year ...