McCain: Obama Wants To Forfeit Iraq War

Republican Suggests Rival Is Willing To Lose In Iraq To Win Election

(AP)  Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who has contended that Barack Obama is willing to lose in Iraq to win the election, on Thursday said his rival would forfeit the war as part of an agenda that also promotes big government and high taxes.

McCain told those gathered for a town hall meeting that Obama is a talented orator with an agenda that could be boiled down to simple policies the Arizona Republican opposes.

"Government is too big, he wants to grow it. Taxes are to high, he wants to raise them," McCain said. "Congress spends too much and he proposes more. We need more energy and he's against producing it. We're finally winning in Iraq, and he wants to forfeit."

McCain's criticism came before he was to travel to Wilmington to discuss possible job losses, as many as 8,000, from the proposed closure of a DHL shipping site, the result of a corporate merger aided by his campaign manager during his work as a lobbyist.

In 2003, McCain campaign manager Rick Davis lobbied Congress to accept a proposal by German-owned DHL to buy Airborne Express, which kept its domestic hub in Wilmington in southwest Ohio.

In announcing a restructuring plan in May, DHL said it planned to hire United Parcel Service to move some of its air packages, sending them through an airport in Louisville, Ky., and putting the Wilmington Air Park out of business.

Davis took a leave of absence from his lobbying practice to work for McCain, a self-styled reformer who asked his campaign staff to disclose all previous lobbying ties and make certain they were no longer registered as lobbyists or foreign agents.

The economy and job losses are important issues in Ohio, a critical swing state that gave President Bush the electoral votes needed for re-election in 2004.

McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said Wednesday that Davis had not worked with DHL since 2005, long before DHL announced plans to move its work out of Wilmington. The companies merged in 2003.

"At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," Rogers said.

McCain, as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, had a role in the deal, too. He urged then-Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted Stevens to abandon proposed legislation that would have prohibited foreign-owned carriers from flying U.S. military equipment or troops, which Airborne Express said was aimed at torpedoing its merger with DHL.

Rogers said McCain opposed the bill because it could have hurt the military's airlift capabilities in a time of war.

The DHL-Airborne deal ultimately went through, despite opposition from competitors UPS and FedEx, which argued that it would violate a ban on foreign control of domestic airlines. DHL is the U.S.-based shipping unit of German postal service Deutsche Post AG.

On Wednesday, Sen. Sherrod Brown, an Ohio Democrat and Obama supporter, called on McCain and Davis to use their past ties to DHL to urge the company not to move jobs out of Wilmington.

"John McCain through this whole thing has said zero about his connection to DHL," Brown said. "We need their help. I'm accusing them of indifference."

A task force of local and federal elected officials as well as business and labor leaders has been working to save the jobs.

"This is worthy of every presidential candidate's attention," Wilmington Mayor David Raizk said. "Whether it's a vote-changing issue or not, I think it might be a little too early to tell. It's a matter of making sure our situation here stays on the front burner."

During a campaign visit last month, Obama discussed the situation with Raizk and other officials and pledged to help if elected.

In a statement Wednesday, Ohio Republican Sen. George Voinovich called the situation "one of the worst job catastrophes that any community in this nation is facing" and said the involvement of both McCain and Obama indicated it merited global attention.

"We are going to need some involvement by the German government," Voinovich said.

DHL declined to comment.

Ohio is a general election battleground state, and rural southwest Ohio, where Wilmington is located, is a Republican stronghold. In 2004, Clinton County - which includes Wilmington - voted for Bush over Democrat John Kerry by more than 2-to-1, even though Bush narrowly won the state.

[actornaught]

Even giving (laughable) credit that the "surge" (escalation) was a good idea that worked, you have to suspend the FACT that it shouldn''t''ve been needed (see: "war lies" and Lying John%u2019s "greeted as liberators"). Then you have to suspend the FACT that this %u201Cgood idea%u201D was 4 YEARS LATE.

EVERY legitimate expert recommended a political solution (real conservatives, too). If Obama%u2019s judgment had been respected, it would%u2019ve saved hundreds of thousands of lives, and $3 trillion, and who knows what else.

%u201CI know how to win wars%u201D??? John McCain is a Lying POS.

[tbweb]

Its just a matter of time before someone finds out where McCains latest misstress (and lobbyist) Vicki Iseman has been hiding and she spills the beans on her affair with Magoo. The McCain Campaign sent her into hiding to protect him but she''''ll pop up, like McCain on Viagra, soon enough.

Posted by MoneyMcBush at 04:01 PM : Aug 08, 2008,,,

ROTFLMAO!!

[actornaught]

Lying John has no grasp of anything he says or has done. He can''t even define his favorite word, "surge". So it''s no surprise he can''t relate anything BO says.

Or John''s just a pathological liar. No difference, in the end.

[johnbush2-2009]

"He was referring to the fact that he didn''t come into the race with the history of others," Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said Thursday. "It is not about race."

Sen. Barack Obama''s chief strategist, David Axelrod, acknowledged on "Good Morning America" Friday that the Democratic presidential candidate was referring to his race when he said Republicans were trying to scare voters by suggesting Obama "doesn''t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

ABC news

That fraud Obama was playing the "race card" after all. This admission came after many lengthy denials by Obama himself that he was playing the "race card".

Obama is a fraud and we have had enough of his BS.

[meanbiker]

where are thos limy dogs today? Casual and Shazam.. Well ladies.. here is a video for you to watch.. then tell me your not jealous of America today..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQOUi6ec

Oh and Pi$$ OFF...

[starleo146]

sorry typo there meant 16 months not 186 forgive that

[starleo146]

well before Obama went overeas Mc Same was saying we have to stay if it takes 100 yrs we have to protect what we and our troops did and not pull out, Obama goes to Iraq and says what he would like to do in 186 months in Iraq and leave a residual force to keep conflict down and guess what they are writing a proposal right now to the withdrawl of Us troops. Who here is more into doing what is right . Mc Same hated the adulation Obama received is still talking about it with his harley friends, but Obama would never ask Michelle to enter a topless contest. This is a man that goes to strip joints he is the wrong choice,we have to get America back, and stop this power hungry republicans.

[armydog2]

The iraqi government wants US Militery out by 2010. mccain better get things right it that wrinkly white haired head of his!

[tbweb]

`McCain: Obama Wants To Forfeit Iraq War`

The Iraqi government wants the U.S. to leave Iraq and agrees with Sen. Obama`s 16 month timetable. Sen. McCain may want the U.S. to stay in Iraq for 100 more years but his the minority opinion! Sen. McCain wants the U.S. to stay in Iraq even if the Iraqi government wants the U.S. to leave! Sen. McCain wants the U.S. to stay in Iraq with or without Iraq`s permission!

[usais11]

OBAMA = BUSH

MCCAIN = CHANGE

That is REAL.

[hasher471]

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Posted by psy_war at 05:19 AM : Aug 08, 2008 (with modifications)
McCain myths:
1. Maverick? McCain admits on video he%u2019s voted nearly 90% of the time in favor Bush%u2019s %u201CFIRE, READY, AIM%u201D policies.
2. Common man? McCain flits around in his second wife%u2019s private jet, and has his choice of her mansions to relax in. [ There credit card debt is $250,000. How many %u201Ccommon%u201D folks could even effort the minimum payment ]
3. Concern for veterans? Voted against the recent, improved version of the GI Bill in July, 2008. Also voted AGAINST Senate Proposals to increase VA health care funding in 2003, 4, 5 and 6.
4. Experience? McCain has no foreign-service level background. His main claim to fame, that of POW, is tarnished by caving under torture. Many did not. [ plus making propaganda vid%u2019s for the NVC. Additionally, after the NVC found out his daddy was the senior military commander he got preferential treatment ]
5. Intelligence? McCain%u2019s class rank at graduation was 894 of 899. This may explain why he recently described, on Good Morning America, tensions on Iraq/Pakistan border.
6. Fitness, Maturity, Judgment? McCain%u2019s song paradoy ------ %u201CBomb, bomb, bomb %u2026%u2026 bomb, bomb Iran%u201D says it all. [ An %u201Cjoking%u201D that hopefully the Iranians that smoke will die of cancer. ]

[wardoglrs]

Your in Danger America and you better wake up fast.
Look at Dr Paul''s writings and then you will know the truth about politics and there lie''s

[cbsfan73]

I''m still trying to figure out if McCain is chewing tobacco... Does anyone know?

[kansas1946]

and a list of dozens of suggested destinations, conveniently broken down into "conservative," "liberal," "moderate" and "other" categories. Just cut and paste."
carry on wellhell 13 enjoy your rewards,but doont expect us to take you serious



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Posted by clovisbuford at 12:46 AM : Aug 08, 2008
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LOL. Old "WellHell" has probably already earned a free trip to Vegas.

[kansas1946]

My Dad served in WWII and he is voting for McCain.They have both earned the right to vote for whom they wish.


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Posted by mr2258 at 12:05 AM : Aug 08, 2008
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Glad to hear you say it. Every American has the right to vote for who they choose without being called a traitor. The Republicans have just about worn this "traitor" business out.

[clovisbuford]

Obscamma doesn''''t give a ***** about Iraq...he just wants to use it as a talking point to get elected! Or should I say use it as another one of his scams.

He knew when played his sounds bites...

I will immediately remove the troops from Iraq...

That it was total bull *****, and that we''''ll need to have a presence in Iraq for a long time to come!
Dirtbag scum!
Posted by WellHell3 at 12:33 AM : Aug 08, 2008
I always woneder about posters like well hell 13 who sounds a lot licke wicca whatever her name was , then I say this washington post article .Question answered
Spread John McCain''s official talking points around the Web -- and you could win valuable prizes!
That, in essence, is the McCain campaign''s pitch to supporters to join its new online effort, one that combines the features of "AstroTurf" campaigning with the sort of customer-loyalty programs offered by airlines, hotel chains, restaurants and the occasional daily newspaper.
On McCain''s Web site, visitors are invited to "Spread the Word" about the presumptive Republican nominee by sending campaign-supplied comments to blogs and Web sites under the visitor''s screen name. The site offers sample comments ("John McCain has a comprehensive economic plan . . .") and a list of dozens of suggested destinations, conveniently broken down into "conservative," "liberal," "moderate" and "other" categories. Just cut and paste."
carry on wellhell 13 enjoy your rewards,but doont expect us to take you serious

[tawpdawg111]

Hey Ohio!

Has anyone there got a job? Is there any....ANY....work left there AT ALL?

Here is an idea! Vote for Democrats who believe in helping the poor and UNEMPLOYED! It will take a while to get the USA Titanic turned but in the meantime you can get you some unemployment bennies!

[wellhell3]

Obscamma doesn''t give a ***** about Iraq...he just wants to use it as a talking point to get elected! Or should I say use it as another one of his scams.

He knew when played his sounds bites...

I will immediately remove the troops from Iraq...

That it was total bull *****, and that we''ll need to have a presence in Iraq for a long time to come!

Dirtbag scum!

[tawpdawg111]

Hey Mr2258 (catchy handle):

If you vote for McBush then YOU will get to serve in WW III.

[clovisbuford]

My Dad served in WWII and he is voting for McCain.They have both earned the right to vote for whom they wish.
Posted by mr2258 at 12:05 AM : Aug 08, 2008
funny pespective on that . A lot of my kin served in the military , all my uncles in WW2 ,my dad, my cousin in korea , my brother in peace time during the late 70s . They vote democrat ,the ones still alive , but they would tell you anyone registered to vote has the right to vote for who they want. republican or democrat ,so I am confused by that remark and what its supposed to mean .