McCain: Obama Wants To Forfeit Iraq War

Republican Suggests Rival Is Willing To Lose In Iraq To Win Election

(AP)  Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who has contended that Barack Obama is willing to lose in Iraq to win the election, on Thursday said his rival would forfeit the war as part of an agenda that also promotes big government and high taxes.

McCain told those gathered for a town hall meeting that Obama is a talented orator with an agenda that could be boiled down to simple policies the Arizona Republican opposes.

"Government is too big, he wants to grow it. Taxes are to high, he wants to raise them," McCain said. "Congress spends too much and he proposes more. We need more energy and he's against producing it. We're finally winning in Iraq, and he wants to forfeit."

McCain's criticism came before he was to travel to Wilmington to discuss possible job losses, as many as 8,000, from the proposed closure of a DHL shipping site, the result of a corporate merger aided by his campaign manager during his work as a lobbyist.

In 2003, McCain campaign manager Rick Davis lobbied Congress to accept a proposal by German-owned DHL to buy Airborne Express, which kept its domestic hub in Wilmington in southwest Ohio.

In announcing a restructuring plan in May, DHL said it planned to hire United Parcel Service to move some of its air packages, sending them through an airport in Louisville, Ky., and putting the Wilmington Air Park out of business.

Davis took a leave of absence from his lobbying practice to work for McCain, a self-styled reformer who asked his campaign staff to disclose all previous lobbying ties and make certain they were no longer registered as lobbyists or foreign agents.

The economy and job losses are important issues in Ohio, a critical swing state that gave President Bush the electoral votes needed for re-election in 2004.

McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said Wednesday that Davis had not worked with DHL since 2005, long before DHL announced plans to move its work out of Wilmington. The companies merged in 2003.

"At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," Rogers said.

McCain, as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, had a role in the deal, too. He urged then-Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted Stevens to abandon proposed legislation that would have prohibited foreign-owned carriers from flying U.S. military equipment or troops, which Airborne Express said was aimed at torpedoing its merger with DHL.

Rogers said McCain opposed the bill because it could have hurt the military's airlift capabilities in a time of war.

The DHL-Airborne deal ultimately went through, despite opposition from competitors UPS and FedEx, which argued that it would violate a ban on foreign control of domestic airlines. DHL is the U.S.-based shipping unit of German postal service Deutsche Post AG.

On Wednesday, Sen. Sherrod Brown, an Ohio Democrat and Obama supporter, called on McCain and Davis to use their past ties to DHL to urge the company not to move jobs out of Wilmington.

"John McCain through this whole thing has said zero about his connection to DHL," Brown said. "We need their help. I'm accusing them of indifference."

A task force of local and federal elected officials as well as business and labor leaders has been working to save the jobs.

"This is worthy of every presidential candidate's attention," Wilmington Mayor David Raizk said. "Whether it's a vote-changing issue or not, I think it might be a little too early to tell. It's a matter of making sure our situation here stays on the front burner."

During a campaign visit last month, Obama discussed the situation with Raizk and other officials and pledged to help if elected.

In a statement Wednesday, Ohio Republican Sen. George Voinovich called the situation "one of the worst job catastrophes that any community in this nation is facing" and said the involvement of both McCain and Obama indicated it merited global attention.

"We are going to need some involvement by the German government," Voinovich said.

DHL declined to comment.

Ohio is a general election battleground state, and rural southwest Ohio, where Wilmington is located, is a Republican stronghold. In 2004, Clinton County - which includes Wilmington - voted for Bush over Democrat John Kerry by more than 2-to-1, even though Bush narrowly won the state.

[anvilofsteel]

nice

[G H M]

Did you notice - McSame now go to places that already having a crowd gathered and as a guest speaker.
Photo opportunity?
As much as McDumb tries He really is not a celebrity.

[starleo146]

Mc Same all he talked about in the beginning was Iraq, and the surge over and over, and now he lost that point on energy it is the surge once again, and nuclear power, and drilling over and over. People do not know that drilling will only supply oil in 10 years 7 at the most and what will they do with it, do any of you think they would let us have it when they can make a buck somewhere else, please. I do not trust the oil co. who are in the pocket of Mc Same, and I do not trust a republican Bush and Cheney, and Mc Same has ruined that for any republican.Has anyone in the Mc Same camp told us why do they not tell us why the oil companies do not drill on the 68 acres they have already leased to them, because they see an opening to get it all now, because the Americans want gas to come down they will say anything to get it down, let them answer that question, the day the oil companies help us is the last day on this earth.

[antoniof123]

Someone explain how the fiscal family value party of god is going to explain this one to the people who are without jobs. Ohio, you must have misunderstood when they said asset you must have missed the part where they told you expendable and you have just been expended.

If you sleep with vipers you are either a one or you will get bit.

[jmurrieta1]

Let''s see--the Iraqis want the US out by 2010, and Obama''s 16 months after taking office is--2010.

Seems like only McCain, Bush, and Cheney want the US in Iraq longer.

What''s in it for them--big money for their cronies.

The most corrupt party in US history--the Neocon Republicans.

[jmurrieta1]

""At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," Rogers said. "

When you push to sell American companies to foreigners, you take your chances that the foreigners will move the jobs elsewhere.

Or wasn''t McSame bright enough to figure that out?

[drillusion4u]

boo hoo hoo - Mccain: It''s my war!! You can''t have it...

[bigsk8fan]

mcclone wants the war to last another 100 years. and like george w bush, mcsame wants americans to suffer at least 50,000 dead soldiers to show the same fortitude we showed in vietnam and korea. anything less is apparently a forfeiture.

this guy is in deep space. he thinks he is winning the "energy" debate after being solidly smacked down by paris hilton.

john mccain is as big a loser as our sorry excuse of a president.

[peterp111]

Not that I prefer in any way a racist country- but this country is not evolved to the point where racism is absent- so in effect- this candidate will have major problems now and until he is no longer a candidate.

Generally people are not that bright- and this is why they cannot see through the facade of Mr Obama. McCain is not another Bush, you and many others have it backwards. It is Obama who is the liar, and if only people were smarter they would open their eyes and see this fact.

[drillusion4u]

Mccain is out of touch, nobody wants to stay in iraq, well only the oil companies!! the same oil companies that give money to the mccain campaign

[drillusion4u]

i got a great idea lets stay in iraq for 100 years, give the oil companies tax breaks, have the lobbyist run the department of defense, and destroy the middle class.

[liberalme]

Does McCain ever read the news? Plans as of today is to be out by 2010----Wasn''t that Obamas plan all along?

He McCain--what will we win if we stay in Iraq?????

Tire gauges????

[drillusion4u]

SOUNDS LIKE MCCAIN IS WHINING

[whitemale08]

John McCain just doesn''t get it.

NO ONE WANTS TO STAY IN IRAQ FOR A 100 YEARS...NO ONE!!!

WE CAN''T AFFORD IT!!! MUNINCIPAL BONDS IN MASSACHUSETTS ARE BEING REJECTED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY!!!

You sir, are not ALL POWERFULL!!!

You cannot reverse the hands of time when you and Hillary so stupidly misled us into war thus destroying our military and our economy!










I''m starting

[jimfinster]

my friends, suuuuuuuuurge !

[smirk5]

McCain says the surge has succeeded. That can only mean that it''s time to come home. There''s nothing to forfeit. A successful surge means that Iraq has it''s oil sharing agreements in place, it''s provincial elections completed, and Iraqi soldiers can now stand up. Otherwise, the surge was a failure.

[observantx]

Why doesn''t McGrumpy just declare Karl Rove his VP? It''s apparent from the increasing river of slime and scare tactics from his campaign that Rove''s really in charge.

Just what we need, 4 more years of Turdblossom and the continual stinking up of the White House.

[coryellco]

I don"t think any of you are smart enough too see what is what.......their all on the take.....both sides......both parties!!!!!!

[the74blaster]

Congress spends too much and he proposes more. We need more energy and he''s against producing it. We''re finally winning in Iraq, and he wants to forfeit."

This statement by itself clearly shows McCain is unfit to be commander in chief. If he really believes this it would only be a matter of time before he started world war III with his delusional thoughts.

[suzyku]

Boy am I ever sick and tired of mcsame! blah,blah,blah and "oh yes, I forgot what I just said", more blah,blah,blah. I stopped listening to anything that comes out of his hypocritical, lying mouth!

[amazedd]

This Democrat majority Congress has a lot of nerve. If they had passed a bill allowing companies to drill for oil offshore, before they went on holiday, people could get to work right away. But no, they not only don''t want to work, they dont'' want let anyone else to. At least not in America, anyway.
Obama is the presumptive leader of the Democratic Party, if he can''t show any leadership at this time of need why is he running?

[greatdrivew]

"McCain: Obama Wants To Forfeit Iraq War"

Okay, so Obama might be a say-anything fraud, but at least he''s not a derelict like McCain.

In case McCain doesn''t know it, the Iraq War has been over for a long time. And now, Iraq has turned into nothing more than a pathetic attempt by neo-cons to occupy Iraq and control Iraqi resources.

So sorry John, the war and your planned colonial occupation of Iraq, are both over. Get used to it.

[kissamaarse]

And JukeBox John McCain wants to maintain the status quo, squandering the U.S. treasury and throwing young American lives at defending Big Oil.

[kissamaarse]

Amazedd:
I am amazed you think the offshore drilling issue is anything more than a land grab by Big Oil. Why don''t you ask them why they don''t drill on the millions of acres of free leases of the American taxpayers land they already control.

[canyoutellme-2009]

This Democrat majority Congress has a lot of nerve. If they had passed a bill allowing companies to drill for oil offshore, before they went on holiday, people could get to work right away. But no, they not only don''''t want to work, they dont'''' want let anyone else to. At least not in America, anyway.
Obama is the presumptive leader of the Democratic Party, if he can''''t show any leadership at this time of need why is he running?


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Posted by Amazedd at 06:42 PM : Aug 07, 2008
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This Democrat-majority congress is actually almost HALF republican... they ALL went on vacation. In addition, even if they voted "yes" for offshore drilling, there''s a 5-year wait time due to delays on RIGS! There''s a shortage of oil rigs. It will take 5 years to build even ONE new rig for offshore drilling.

BTW, there are 68 million acres of land that the oil company holds leases for that they''re not drilling on yet. It''s much LESS costly to drill on land than it is in the ocean.

So, you''re wrong on all counts. Have a nice day

[six-six-seis]

Is this the new Confederate states of Republicans Flag in the background?

[amazedd]

Like, drill were Obama says. Then, the oil will come.

[mikelpond]

I''m John McRove and I know how to win an election! Karl explained it to me. "You don''t actually listen to the things you or your surrogates say - that only gets in your way. Say outragous things, it doesn''t matter - the crowd you''ll be working doesn''t need reasons, they need talking points for use in polite company. (this is why they can believe he''s a muslim and believe he sat in Wright''s church all those years).When asked about said statements just push out the next talking point. talk faster and louder and bring up as many murky points as possible - this will get to the thoughtfull types cuasing them to pause. Just keep talking and what ever you do - don''t think, don''t pause, repeat after me.."

[canyoutellme-2009]

So McCain says that Obama is for a HUGE government and wants it even bigger... and that Obama is FOR high oil prices.

McCain, with all due respect (of which you deserve none.. maybe 20 years ago you did.. but not now), it is the REPUBLICANS who have grown this gov''t bigger than it has ever been. It''s the republiCONs who have made the budget deficit bigger than its ever been. It''s the republiCONs who want to bomb bomb bomb Iran. What do you think Bombing Iran would do for oil prices? We will INSTANTLY be paying 10 bux a gallon for gas if you go through with your bombing of Iran... especially since they haven''t provoked us or anyone else.

BTW, don''t give me that lie that they said they''d wipe Israel off the face of the map. That was never said either. That was an intentional mistranslation. I''m jewish and i dont like the moron in Iran, but at least i don''t have to LIE to get my point across.

Have a nice day

[amazedd]

Better yet, let''s start drilling ''manana'', just keep procrastinating. And meanwhile, keep filling the coffers of the sheiks. Maybe they''ll build us a bungalow in one of their retarded islands, in appreciation, right?

[drillusion4u]

MCCAIN ACTS LIKE A BABY, CRY ABOUT THIS, CRY ABOUT THAT, OBAMA DOES THIS, OBAMA DOES THAT, MCCAIN STOP WHINING!!

[mr2258]

No matter what is said.The truth is if Obama would have had his way.The Iraq war would have been lost.

[kansas1946]

AP) Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who has contended that Barack Obama is willing to lose in Iraq to win the election, on Thursday said his rival would forfeit the war as part of an agenda that also promotes big government and high taxes.
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Well, so far, this is the biggest lie and the biggest bunch of BS that John McCain has come up with about Obama. Obama has called for a responsible withdrawal which is what the American people have wanted for four years, and is what the Iraqi''s want, and is what the Bush administration is in the middle of. How anyone can trust this man who is obsiously delusional and obsessed to the point of madness with Iraq, is beyond me. I used to really like him and thought his judgement was pretty sound, but now I just think he is dangerous.

[amazedd]

If it''s beyond you, Kansas, why do you nag?

[stormbrew2]

Once the media really focuses on McCain ans stops giving him a free ride, he is going to fold like a cheap tent. He has experience all right, 26 years of these kinds of power mongering inside deals. He has turned negative to deflect attention from him, as much as the feebel attempt to bring Senator Obama down. Eventually the press will have to focus on him. This is the first time in many attempts that he is the candidate and he can no longer get a pass and a chuckle.

[nextgenman]

McCain: I pander to Fear and Failure.

[nextgenman]

Now that we have won the war and are coming home.Obama would like to take credit for it.What a piece of *****.

Posted by mr2258 at 07:14 PM : Aug 07, 2008
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Nice try at saving face over your dismal failure in Iraq.

Found those WMD yet?

[mr2258]

The United States Win Iraq War---Mahdi army lays down arms to be community organizers.

[sleepyric]

Dear Mr. McCain...why don''t you just shut the hell up. Stupid old man..

[nextgenman]

The United States Win Iraq War---Mahdi army lays down arms to be community organizers.

Posted by mr2258 at 07:23 PM : Aug 07, 2008
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Tony Snow''s dead, you can stop the spin. Nobody believes it anymore. We fact check now.

Sorry.

[mr2258]

You will be hearing President McCain alot over the next four years.Get use to it.

[nextgenman]

You will be hearing President McCain alot over the next four years.Get use to it.

Posted by mr2258 at 07:27 PM : Aug 07, 2008
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I know you meant Obama, I''ll correct your mistake for you.

[mr2258]

If you fact check you will see it is a fact.

[ixoye_02]

McCain is showing desperation. Since McCain has no real solutions, McCain has to utter innuendo and lies about Obama to cause confusion. McCain''s tactic might work on stupid people, but I think the American voter is smarter than that. (at least I hope so, after 7.5 years with a true idiot in the White House). In any case, McCain, so far, hasn''t been convincing or really excited about McCain''s own agenda for America. And the policy points that McCain has made is just more Bush policy "clothed" as something new or "maverick". McCain generates no excitement just fear and more depression.

[nextgenman]

Bush is finally forced to admit failure. The Iraqis are forcing him out of Iraq.

[amazedd]

Despair, fiends!

[nextgenman]

If you fact check you will see it is a fact.

Posted by mr2258 at 07:28 PM : Aug 07, 2008
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Why don''t you provide me a link sweetpea.....

[mr2258]

I would not call winning a war and coming home a failure.

[amazedd]

Were you there?

[mr2258]

nexgen--It was on one of the news site this morning.Did not make note of site.I will do better.