Bush Says It's "Important to Engage" China

Washington Post: President Gives Asian Nation A Mixed Appraisal In Interview On Eve Of Olympics Visit

(Washingtonpost.com)  This story was written by Michael Abramowitz.

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Three days before he is set to arrive in Beijing for the Olympics, President Bush offered a mixed assessment of China's role in the world, praising its efforts to curb the nuclear ambitions of North Korea and Iran, expressing disappointment about its recent move to help scuttle global trade talks, and saying that it is "really hard to tell" whether human rights in China have improved over the past eight years.

Bush said that he speaks candidly with Chinese President Hu Jintao about human rights, particularly religious freedom, and that he has shared his religious beliefs with Hu and Hu's predecessor, Jiang Zemin, urging them to lift restrictions on underground churches.

"My main objective in my discussions on religious freedom is to remind this new generation of leadership that religion is not to be feared but to be welcomed in society," Bush said in an interview. Asked whether he thinks he is making an impact on Hu, he replied: "Oh, I think he listens, absolutely. I think he's interested. . . . He absorbs, he takes in, he listens."

Bush said China must do more to pressure repressive governments in Burma and Sudan, where he suggested Beijing's interest in acquiring raw materials to fuel China's booming economy is conflicting with an interest in stopping the killing in Sudan's Darfur region. But he skirted a question about a pre-Olympics security drive by Chinese authorities that human rights advocates call a crackdown on dissent.

"They're hypersensitive to a potential terrorist attack," Bush said. "And my hope is, of course, that as they have their security in place, that they're mindful of the spirit of the Games, and that if there is a provocation, they handle it in a responsible way without violence."

The president has been criticized by some lawmakers and human rights groups for his decision to attend the Games. He explained his rationale: "One of the reasons I'm going is because I want to show respect to the Chinese people, and this is a proud moment for China."

Bush also grappled with how to gauge openness and freedom in China today. "I mean, this is a closed society in many ways," he said. "The Internet provides interesting opportunities for people to express themselves. Sometimes it's open, sometimes the filters are there. I've talked to the evangelicals who go there who feel like the underground church movement has gotten a few steps forward, a step-and-a-half back. It's really hard to tell."

During a half-hour interview in his private office aboard Air Force One, Bush emphasized that it is "important to engage the Chinese" -- a striking comment for a president who came to office with aides depicting China as a "strategic competitor" and surrounded by hawks who looked suspiciously upon the Chinese government. Even critics of the president say he has emerged as an unexpected diplomat with China, conducting a personal campaign to woo the senior Chinese leadership.

The president was on his way to Alaska for a brief rally with troops before flying to Seoul for the first stop of a seven-day trip to Asia, culminating this weekend with an appearance at the opening ceremonies in Beijing, attendance at athletic events, worship at a Chinese church, and meetings with Hu and other officials.

Bush's planned meeting with Hu at the Olympics this month will be his 15th meeting with a Chinese president. His visit to China will be the fourth of his presidency; no other U.S. president has visited China more than once.

Over the course of his administration, Bush has delivered for China in important and unexpected ways: A president who in his early days made a guarantee to defend Taiwan later warned the island against declaring independence and has established what China experts see as a de facto freeze on arms sales to Taiwan. After angering China by labeling North Korea part of an "axis of evil," Bush led a diplomatic initiative aimed at cooling tensions on the Korean Peninsula. While critical of China on human rights, Bush has not hectored authorities in Beijing.

He and his advisers say his approach has paid off: The United States has secured Chinese help on North Korea and Iran while avoiding a blowup in the Taiwan Strait, despite the intense passions and military buildups on both sides.

Advisers also said they are pleased about China's moves in recent years to allow its currency to rise, making U.S. exports to China cheaper. Bush acknowledged some economic concerns with China, saying that the Chinese appear to be retreating on promises they made to open their agriculture markets to join the World Trade Organization.

Neoconservatives, human rights activists and others who have thrilled to the president's "freedom agenda" in other parts of the world contend that Bush has muted his rhetoric on democracy in the name of friendly ties with China, while accommodating China on Taiwan.

"In terms of effectiveness, the so-called quiet, behind-the-scenes diplomacy so far is a failure," said Bob Fu, founder of the China Aid Association and one of several activists who met with Bush last week at the White House. "On the human rights front, as we approach the Olympics, China really has the worst record and is deteriorating up until today."

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China posed the Bush administration's first foreign policy crisis, when a Chinese fighter jet and a Navy EP-3 reconnaissance plane collided off the coast of China in April 2001. The Chinese pilot vanished, and the hobbled spy plane landed on Hainan island, where the crew was placed in the custody of Chinese authorities. Chinese officials refused to return U.S. phone calls for 24 hours, adding drama to a situation that some officials worried could lead to military conflict.

The crisis was defused by two weeks of tense diplomacy, led by then-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and his deputy, Richard L. Armitage. Bush recounted the incident in the interview: "The lesson of the EP3 was that it's really important to be [in] a position to have quick communications with a nation as large and as important as China," he said.

Officials considered more hawkish on China, such as then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, took some steps after the EP-3 incident, such as limiting military-to-military consultations with China. But the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, shifted the focus of the China hawks, according to many current and former officials. Its eyes on Afghanistan and Iraq, the administration had little interest in a confrontation with China.

U.S. policy toward China, particularly during Bush's second term, has been dominated by pragmatists, including Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr., who set up a high-level economic dialogue with China, and former deputy secretary of state Robert B. Zoellick, who argued publicly that China should become a "responsible stakeholder" in the international system.

The threat of terrorism also helped transform China in the administration's eyes, from a potential adversary to a potential partner in dealing with North Korea and Iran. China also won points by giving the administration a pass on Iraq. During a meeting with Powell in the run-up to the war, then-Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan said that while China opposed an invasion, it would not obstruct U.S. efforts. "They have been studiously silent on Iraq," said Brent Scowcroft, who was national security adviser to President George H.W. Bush.

Current and former advisers also emphasize that Bush came into office with well-developed views on China, a result of the close family association dating to his father's days as a U.S. envoy there in the early 1970s. Bush paid a long visit to his parents in 1975, and in recently published diaries, the elder Bush recalls playing tennis with his son in Beijing and how a Chinese dentist fixed young George's tooth for 60 cents.

Chinese leaders have sought to exploit such family ties. After George W. Bush won the presidency, China sent Yang Jiechi to Washington as ambassador. Yang, now foreign minister, had served as an interpreter for Bush's father during a 1977 tour of China and was nicknamed "Tiger" by the Bush family.

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Bush has also sought to employ his personal diplomacy in soliciting China's help in pressuring North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program. Early on in the administration, Chinese were alarmed by Bush's bellicose rhetoric toward Pyongyang. But the Bush policy has moderated in the second term, and with it Chinese inhibitions about working with the United States through six-party talks.

Early in the administration, Bush invited then-President Jiang Zemin to his Texas ranch and pressed him on North Korea, according to senior officials. When Jiang said North Korea was a U.S. problem, Bush warned that if North Korea went nuclear, Japan might do the same, not a happy outcome from China's perspective.

A few years later, at a White House luncheon for Hu, Bush insisted that he sit next to the Chinese leader instead of his wife, as protocol normally dictates. That allowed for a more relaxed conversation, in which Bush tried to assure the Chinese leader that he was willing to sign a deal with North Korea -- but that he needed Hu's help.

In 2006, when the United States received intelligence that North Korea was about to test a nuclear advice, Bush ordered the intelligence to be shared immediately with the Chinese. After the test, Bush's first phone call was to Hu. According one senior administration official, Bush challenged him: "They have tested. They haven't just defied the United States. They've defied you, too, China."

U.S. officials contend that Bush's ability to engage China has been a major reason for the recent breakthrough with North Korea, in which the communist state provided an inventory of its nuclear program in return for being taken off the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism. Other experts said the only reason for the deal has been Bush's willingness to relax his terms with Pyongyang.

Asked whether he thinks North Korea is going to give up its nuclear weapons, Bush replied: "That's to be seen. But I know that there's a structure in place that will make it more likely they will. Because not only do you have the United States speaking out, now you have China speaking out."

Staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.

[rf35]

"Oh, I think he listens, absolutely. I think he''s interested. . . . He absorbs, he takes in, he listens."

No, he%u2019s just staring at you, wondering what on Earth you%u2019re babbling about.

[dnsallday]

Face it, Laura Bush wanted to see the Games this year!

[pr_boxer]

Good! Bush can now find China on the map.... most of the time!

[nextgenman]

Bush Says It''s "Important to Invade" China

[missingamerica]

"Bush Says It''s "Important to Engage" China"

See, world? Ain''t a Republican in America that can''t be bought.

[jtdev1]

"Engage China" - Does this mean WAR?

[greeneyes222]

"Bush Says It''s "Important to Engage" China"

I''m asking myself why. Just as I''m asking myself if Nixon''s trip to "open up" China was good for us and the rest of the world.

Short-term some folks made some money from it, but long-term? I think we awoke a sleeping tiger. At the rate we''re going we''ll wind up like the young lady from Niger, and we''re so preoccupied with our own political dog and pony show we''ll never see it coming.

[foxmulder33]

Nobody cares what Bush thinks or says. Why is this news?

[wdrussell1]

The difference in what the gutless fratboy Bush and he cabal says.
The difference is between a country that has a vast modern military and a nuclear aresnal and countries that don''t.

[walt1944-2009]

The Great Emperor Bush II has said in an interview that it is important to "engage" China and that he has held several talks about human rights with the Chinese president about human rights, particularly the right of "freedom" of religion.

Given the fact that China must OWN at least 60-65% of the USSA already (India and Europe OWN the remaining 35-40%), it is understandable why the Great Emperor is willing to "bow and curtsy" to the Chinese government, especially since the Chinese are, in effect, funding his continuing military "advertures" in Iraq and Afghanistan and adding to the USSA''s huge deficit!

As far as "freedom of religion" in China, the only "religion" the Great Emperor believes in is the kind you can put in a bank or bury in a treasure chest in your back yard. A truly religious man, who followed the doctrine of Jesus Christ, wouldn''t be fighting wars for profit, wouldn''t be curtailing basic freedoms at home, and wouldn''t have been grabbing all the power he could for himself!

Jesus once said: "Blessed are the Meek, for they will inherit the earth".

MEEK, the Great Emperor Bush II and all neocon Fascist Nazis, they are DEFINITELY NOT!!!!!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!!!!!
sig heil, TOTALLY MORE OF THE SAME, "DRRRILLLLL" McCain!!!!

[steeepe]

Of course, China now owns the U.S. economy, thanks to Bush''s huge national debt and so-called free, not fair trade. Gigantic department store chains that force down prices also play a part in China''s rise, at the expense of U. S. jobs, all for a pencil or dish that''s a dime cheaper. In another 50 years, the U.S. will be just another once-great country that had its day and the world will be run by Asian and Middle-Eastern countries where we send all our money and jobs.

[shingles1]

This is news?
Every President since Nixon has said ''it''s important to engage China'' while simultaneously giving lip service criticisms of their human rights record.
As long as they own our debt and we buy their cr*p, nothing will change.

[pvperson]

Makes sense, China is big on counterfeiting and forgery, Bush is going over to get a few pointers.

[Gary Kempf]

"Bush Says It''''s "Important to Engage" China"

So does that mean he will be giving the Bl** jobs or Laura to the Chinese officials?

[vietnam21]

Of course, China now owns the U.S. economy, thanks to Bush''''s huge national debt and so-called free, not fair trade.

Thought you should know, Bill Clinton invited the Chinese to WTO and that''s why we lost millions of jobs.

[vietnam21]

Thought you should know, Bill Clinton invited the Chinese to WTO and that''''s why we lost millions of jobs.

[wellhell3]

So, the man wants to show a little respect for the Chinese people. That''s a good thing. A positive thing.

If we live as an example of respect and peace then we will reap what we sow. However we clearly won''t be trod on, or let fanatic idiots get control of weapons they could unleash at will.

Selling ourselves out to China wasn''t really a good deal...frankly I suspect half that debt is for freaking plastic ***** people haul in the front door, then out the back door when they''re done playing with it.

Without all their cheap KRAP, we wouldn''t be able to have so much damned fun.

[harp1963]

What a joke we have as our President. He''s sold us down the road to China so a handful of already materially wealthy families can have more. He''s increased our national debt, which China is buying up like crazy, approximately 320 billion or so since he''s taken office. This guy is the worst President in the history of America.

[hober_mallow]

If it''s "really hard to tell" whether human rights in China have improved over the past eight years, then there''s been no improvement.

If I''m trying to lose weight and it''s really hard to tell if I''ve lost any weight, then I probably haven''t lost any.

[Michael Arnold]

Hopefully he won''t come back.

The worst president ever.

What an idiot.

[byuboy2u]

This clown should have been impeached and indicted before he had the chance to bungle what he hasn''t already on his way out of office.

[hangelle]

Oh God. That moron is out and about in the world again?!

[neoconrcrazy]

bushit wants to engage china....he doesn''t seem to realize there''s no need - we''re way past "engagement" -

china owns us.

[haoli25]

Soooooo, how do you say **** in Chinese? Nobody cares what he thinks.

[steeepe]

Thought you should know, Bill Clinton invited the Chinese to WTO and that''''''''s why we lost millions of jobs.
Posted by vietnam21 at 12:32 PM

Clinton made a big mistake there, but it''s been compounded by the idiotic policies of Bush that have resulted in borrowing billions of dollars from China and wasting billions on interest payments.

[vietnam21]

Oh God. That moron is out and about in the world again?!

Posted by hangelle

Bill Clinton gave N. Korea billions of dollars to shut down their nuclear reactor. They kept the money and didn''t shut down the reactor. So do you think Clinton is a moron?

[timdgrim]

jamesm12341
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Hate it when you''re outnumbered here don''t you ReNazican? Sorry for the juvenile comment..I just can''t help it...I''m a libtard..or whatever you Nazis call free thinkers these days.

[obama441]

bow down Bush,to your Master chow main,who''s your daddy?

[obama441]

best word for you all is "loser" Posted by jamesm12341 is a 19 yr old girl...

[iuphockey12]

CHINA SUCKS

[superdem]

I think I''ll just call up my banker, with whom I have a large mortgage, and give him a lecture on human rights, then I''ll shove my religion on him, and then I''ll tell him how he should vote. I''m sure he''ll listen to me, and agree with every word I say.

[vietnam21]

Oh God. That moron is out and about in the world again?!
Posted by hangelle

The majority of Bush''s and his Cabinet are also well educated, all of them have BS and MS degrees, and you all call them Moron. So what is your degree? I don''t see you running for the White House or do anything for the country.

[nolalou]

Kind of hard not to ''engage China'' when we owe them something like 500 Billion dollars! So in spite of human rights abuses, we engage China, trade with them, attend the Olympic games there, but if I decided I want to go 50 miles off the coast of Florida to visit Cuba , forget it, we can''t be spending our money in that oppressive communist country!!

[timdgrim]

Posted by jamesm12341 is a 19 yr old girl...

Posted by obama441
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OH...So I''m just wasting my time then. Thanks.
I thought it was some kind of nutjob, it''s just a Ditz!

[six-six-seis]

SHRUBBY, you did a fIne JOb of ruining this country......

Dear God. i really wish he would go sightseeing and
get out of politics already,

[obama441]

best word for you all is "loser"I gotta go do my nails..ta,ta Posted by Miss jamesm12341

[obama441]

six-six-seis callate buey!!

[jlagat]

Of course, China now owns the U.S. economy, thanks to Bush''''''''s huge national debt and so-called free, not fair trade.

Thought you should know, Bill Clinton invited the Chinese to WTO and that''''s why we lost millions of jobs.

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Posted by vietnam21 at 12:28 PM : Aug 05, 2008

And what do Bush and Clinton have in common?
They''re both Southerners.

America keeps on keeps on electing people from a region of the country where they have problems counting how many fingers they have and keeping their full set of teeth when they turn 18.

How can America prosper from presidents who come from a region of the country where shirts without sleeves are considered formal attire?

There''s a lesson here America: when we stop electing officials from the toilet bowl known as the South, then the nation will proser from people that can actually accomplish something rather than being known for sounding like they are constipated.

[bogusbones]

when you owe someone hundreds of billions of dollars, you don''t tell them what to do - they tell you. for gw to give his "assesment" it''s like the 98 lb. weakling trying to tackle adrian peterson. george - nobody''s listening to you and why don''t you just go to your pennsylvania ave. sand box, play with your toys and shut up until Jan 20th 2009. what an imbecile.

[txlakeside]

Un-freaking beliveable! I am ashamed that the SHRUB got us into this world mess and even more ashamed that people have put up with the repub lies for so long!

His brand of democracy is called "freedom selling" (selling america) and is paid with "freedom debt" (putting your kids and their kids in debt) born on the backs of all Americans. Then the repubs will do some "Freedom listening" (eavesdropping) so they can protect your "Freedom" (their friends and themselves pocketbooks and bank accounts with no bid war contracts).

IMPEACH THE SHRUB AND CONVICT HIM OF TREASON AND WAR CRIMES! Supporting the release of undercover agents ID''s is treason and torture is a war crime!

Nov and the nation will dump the repubs and change will come! And you will see more and more repubs put behind bars! Stevens is just the tip of the corruption!

[six-six-seis]

Never Fear, Perrito Republicano is here...

[emelder]

Big deal. The cowboy President says we need to engage China. He''s clueless about what America needs to do internationally. Chances are very good that we will be at war with China in 8 to 12 years. War always follows the money ... or, for Bush and Cheney, the oil. War with China won''t be pretty.

[bogusbones]

i love to read these threads and this one is unusual in that most of the respondants are in agreement. that is this administration has mortgaged our entire nation to chase some phantom enemy for one. secondly, they have allowed wall street and the banks to run rampant over unsuspeciting consumers by not regulating and enforcing laws. for the benefit of a very small percentage that have profited over the past eight years, america will pay in dollars and blood for the blatant sins of this very selfish and small minded administration.

[hungry1962]

Best President in the history of the USA:

George Walker Bush


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[whitemale08]

...you have no other choice.

China is America''s daddy but America is soon be mistreated step child.

[jimfinster]

It is important to engage a new President, ASAP.

[rosieod4prez]

"I think even hard-line Bush supporters (like myself) accept the fact. - copyat5


If as many Obama crack-pots were former Republicans as claim to be, Obama would be the only person claiming to be the original Democratic base besides Hillary and Pelosi...

If you think we believe you were a former Republican - you have got to be nuts.

[leftyintexas]

Best President in the history of the USA:

George Walker Bush

Posted by hungry1962 at 02:51 PM : Aug 05, 2008

Yeah...and you are the smartest man on earth! Hahahahaha!

[leftyintexas]

bush should shut his clap trap up and retire to Crawford where he should have been for the past 8 years. Good riddence!

[sistatee-2009]

it is "really hard to tell" whether human rights in China have improved over the past eight years.

It is? Ask the 7-yr old kids who work 16 hours a day in a Chinese factory, Georgeie Porgie! Georgie no comprehende el slavo labor?