Daschle Critical Of Anthrax Probe

Says Suicide Of Suspect In 2001 Bioterrorism Attacks Only Further Hampers Investigation

(AP)  Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, whose office was a target of the anthrax attacks in 2001, said Sunday the suicide of the government's main suspect does not mean the case is over.

Daschle said the FBI has not given him any new updates. He also raised questions about the quality of the investigation, noting that the government recently paid out almost $6 million to a former Army scientist, Steven Hatfill, who accused authorities of unfairly targeting him in the anthrax case.

"From the very beginning I've had real concerns about the quality of the investigation," Daschle said in a broadcast interview. "Given the fact that they already paid somebody else $5 million for the mistakes they must have made gives you some indication of the overall caliber and quality of the investigation."

Five people died and 17 others were sickened when anthrax-laced letters began showing up at congressional offices, newsrooms and post offices soon after Sept. 11, 2001.

The case re-emerged in the news this past week as investigators prepared to charge a government scientist Bruce Ivins in the case. Ivins died Tuesday in what has been ruled a suicide.

"Unfortunately, it doesn't bring anything to closure," Daschle said. "This probably further complicates their ability to get to the facts."

He said he did not know if the investigation involving Ivins "is just another false track and a real diversion of where they need to be. We don't know, and they aren't telling us."

Tom Ridge, Bush's Homeland Security secretary at the time of the anthrax attacks, said he did not know what evidence the FBI had uncovered against Ivins.

"But I know that they were relentless, relentless, both domestically and overseas, both with the notion that it could have been a part of a broader terrorist network, but it could also have been the act of a deranged individual or two," Ridge said.

Daschle appeared on "Fox News Sunday," while Ridge was on "This Week" on ABC.

[aeasus]

is there a writing analisys?

[jmurrieta1]

Sounds like the Bushites turned this investigation over to the Monica Goodling crowd--incompetent, but right-wing politically reliable, as well as ready, willing, and able to kiss up, kick down.

And where is the Right Wing Talking Head Brigade on how suspicious this suicide is?

Ever hear of anyone killing themselves with Tylenol?

A thorough investigation, which will likely never be forthcoming, could very lead lead straight back to *** Cheney''s office--a staged attack, Ivin as a cutout for the bad guy, and another phony excuse to invade Iraq.

[ioweign]

is there a writing analisys?

Posted by aeasus at 11:29 AM : Aug 03, 2008

This Administration and writing !!

[creeper00]

"A thorough investigation, which will likely never be forthcoming, could very lead lead straight back to *** Cheney''''s office--a staged attack, Ivin as a cutout for the bad guy, and another phony excuse to invade Iraq."

Posted by jmurrieta1 at 12:12 PM : Aug 03, 2008

There was a time when I would have told you to take off the tin-foil hat. No more. Anything is possible with Cheney.

Coming as they did in the wake of 9/11, the anthrax mailings served perfectly to reinforce the "administration''s" preferred story-line...that we were under siege on all sides from terrorists everywhere. (How they got from there to "attacking Iraq will fix that" is beyond me.)

In any case, Ivins is still innocent no matter how handy his "suicide" is for the real perpetrators of the anthrax mailings.

[samsel3]

Does this sound familiar:

Rumsfeld & Cheney''s Dirty Litlle Spy Secret, they covered it up...........


"One of the most controversial issues surrounding Project MK-ULTRA involved the mysterious death of Dr. Frank Olson, a scientist at Fort Detrick, Maryland, where many of these studies were conducted. According to the government''s version of events, as part of the MK-ULTRA experiments, Olson was dosed with LSD without his knowledge, and he suffered severe paranoia and a nervous breakdown. The CIA sent him to New York to see one of their psychiatrists, who recommended that Olson be placed into a mental institution for recovery. On his last night in New York, Olson allegedly threw himself out his hotel room window, plunging to his death. Skeptics of this story argue that his death may be a murder, pointing to the questionable nature of the research Olson was involved with. A grand jury inquiry of Olson''''s death was approved on April 27,1996 and on the same day former CIA chief William disappeared and his remains were found in a lake." Wikepedia CIA activities in the USA.& NY Times April 1, 2001 " What did the CIA do to Eric Olsons father".

[vnveteran72]

"Unfortunately, it doesn''t bring anything to closure," Daschle said. "This probably further complicates their ability to get to the facts."

He said he did not know if the investigation involving Ivins "is just another false track and a real diversion of where they need to be. We don''t know, and they aren''t telling us."

Muddying the water, diversions, false tracks........
This is just more of the same from the Bush/Cheney Crime Cartel. By the time it''s made Public(if it ever is), that they were behind every aspect of 9/11, they''ll be safe in Non-Extradition Locales, guarded by the Private Neocon Mercenary Army of Blackwater, Planning and Implimenting even more elaborate Black Ops designed to keep them in Control and Rolling in Money.
How they must laugh at the Gullible Retardds that voted them into power.......

[samsel3]

Another case of CIA assisted suicide. Years of continuing secrecy, the CIA remains an elite organization with agendas kept beyond the realm of the FBI.

The answer to the Anthrax mystery lies with Bush, Cheney and the CIA strategists who wanted to drum up support for the invasion and regime change of seven countries. Putting the American people in fear of terrorism for their dirty game on the world stage was a disgusting choice. Using a genetically fingerprinted US Army military grade Anthrax was not very smart. They never thought anyone would research the materials genetic fingerprint. Money, power, greed for gain, they all need to be indicted for crimes against humanity in the World Court where justice will be served for all.

[impeach__w]

I still think the The isrealis did it.
Do you know how many of these Fort. D. scientists died/ suicide/ disappeared around retirement or departure time? Not even fort D folks. Many Nationalitys in this field died under very strange circumstances.
It started hopefully with Frank Olsen who was admittedly killed by CIA, and rumsfield and Cheney settled with the family so ther would be no lawsuit.

How did he send the letters for N.J and UK?
They would never let him never this stuff if he was suicidal etc.

This is also not the first AIRBOURNE anthrax outbreak in the US. that had plausible deniability. A wool(?) processing buiding and the one downwind of it in in new england was knocked down and burned brick by brick and buried during he cold war. Another building deemed too dangerous to tear down has been boarded up since the 60''s or 70''s on Fort. D.

This one had deniability too - blaming the terrorists in a not too convincing way.

Those civialian medals usually go to some one who kept their mouth shut. It this guy did it, He could have unleasehed anything. Also why was he working on Anthax for 30 years? A Vaccine? Plausible deniability again....

[samsel3]

Sound familiar?.........

Frank Olson was not, after all a civilian employee of the Army. He was a CIA employee working at Fort Detrick on precursor programs to MK-ULTRA, specializing in anthrax aerosols, possibly for for use in covert assassination.
Olson''s passport, indicates that in the summer of 1953 --only months before his death-- he had visited secret joint American-British testing and research installations near Frankfurt, Germany where he had likely witnessed terminal experiments on expendable prisoners. His misgivings were such that a British intelligence agent who became aware of them recommended that Olson be denied further access to Porton Down, the British chemical-weapons research establishment."

[impeach__w]

Don''t forget Sec. Forrestal had a "nervous breakdown" and flew out of a window when he started talking about UFOS...

[samsel3]

I still think the The isrealis did it.
Posted by impeach__w at 12:29 PM : Aug 03, 2008

The Israeli''s do not have US Army military grade Anthrax. This Anthrax is only traceable to US Army Weapons Facilities.........

[samsel3]

Another case of CIA assisted suicide.......Dr. Ivins joins another Fort Detrick Alumni, Dr. Frank Olson. The dead cannot speak and incriminate their perpetrators.

"While aides to Gerald Ford, Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Cheney helped cover up the background to the death of CIA scientist, Frank Olson who fell from a 10th floor window in 1953, not long after he had been classified as a potential security risk."

"Olson''s son Eric says his father''s conscience was troubled by awareness of Nazi-style CIA experiments on human subjects. "

[rob416]

Should anyone be surprised the FBI messed up the anthrax investigation. It cost the American taxpayers 6 million dollars paid out to Steven Hatfill unfairly accused of sending the anthrax letters.

Prior to 09/11 an FBI Supervisor stopped the investigation of the Middle Eastern student pilot that only wanted to learn to fly the plane, but not land it. We all know what happened after that.

The American public deserves better from their Government. If the FBI can''t perform better then perhaps changes need to be made.

[vnveteran72]

Also it is interesting to note, that Cheney proposed dressing up Navy Seals as Iranians, placing them in Iranian Style PT Boats, and "Attacking" U.S. Naval Warships when they passed through the Straits of Hormuz, to get War with Iran back on the Front Burner.
Cheney has never given up trying to complete his Neocon Wet Dream of Overthrowing the Governments in his Original Plan to Control ALL the Oil in the ME.

[buttonjockey]

: "But I know that they were relentless, relentless, both domestically and
: overseas, both with the notion that it could have been a part of a broader terrorist network

Yeah, Homeland Security seems eager to stick this on terrorist networks. So eager perhaps they are overlooking that maybe someone in our own government did this to beat the "fear terrorism" drum a little harder. The FBI should have been swarming all over the idea that this might have been an inside job. Who''s anthrax was it, anyway? How many people could possibly be involved? This investigation is botched worse than the OJ Simpson investigation.

[vnveteran72]

I still think the The isrealis did it.
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Posted by impeach__w at 12:29 PM : Aug 03, 2008
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The Mossad and Israeli Special Forces Arrested and detained on 9/11 by NYPD, prove they were at the very least aware of the OP ahead of time and at the most, in Complete Control. They surely would have had Coordination inside our own Government to set up vital aspects needed to accomplish it successfully.
The Israelis had definite cross alignment in purpose and Strategic Advantage in Invasion and Occupation of Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc., and would have been involved in the earliest stages of planning. Cheney''s brainchild may have indeed been just a suggestion by Israeli Operatives at how all their dreams and asperations could be realized through a single coordinated plan. Just the suggestion of the $Trillions$ to be made in War Profiteering and Oil Speculation for Cheney and his Pals, would have been enough to seal the deal.

[hermitdave]

If there are any SHRINKS out there please let us know why they don''t have a doctors oath about blabbing stories in public about a patient. This looks like a smear a dead guy for government LIES case. This is sure getting a lot of press by managed news.

[vnveteran72]

If there are any SHRINKS out there please let us know why they don''''t have a doctors oath about blabbing stories in public about a patient. This looks like a smear a dead guy for government LIES case. This is sure getting a lot of press by managed news.


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Posted by hermitdave at 01:43 PM : Aug 03, 2008
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Any Shrinks assigned to monitor behavior of government scientists, especially those working in Bio-Weapons Research, would surely of been Company Operatives. The CIA doesn''t leave such details to chance.

[inventagod2]

This administration is so far out of control, we will only learn the truth about these things when someone blabs on their deathbed.

In the mean time, just be very wary of any government that is famous only for its constant lies.

[vincan-2009]

Our government has a bad habit of very quickly blaming the wrong person and ruining their lives. This is something that should never happen again. Investigate crimes but don''t jump to the wrong conclusions and make a fool of the government and cause unbearable pain and hardship to innocent people.

[wl7bzh]

Suspects? Gee, all you need is take a course in Microbiology 101 and internet access.

Therapists? When did these egomaniacs become credible witnesses? They are not physicians and neither is the tooth fairy or Santa Claus. My apologies to the tooth fairy and Santa Claus for the psych. association.

[samsel3]

Another case of CIA assisted suicide.......Dr. Ivins joins another Fort Detrick Alumni, Dr. Frank Olson. The dead cannot speak and incriminate their perpetrators.

"While aides to Gerald Ford, Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Cheney helped cover up the background to the death of CIA scientist, Frank Olson who fell from a 10th floor window in 1953, not long after he had been classified as a potential security risk."

"Olson''s son Eric says his father''s conscience was troubled by awareness of Nazi-style CIA experiments on human subjects. "

[samsel3]

Sound familiar?.........

Frank Olson was not, after all a civilian employee of the Army. He was a CIA employee working at Fort Detrick on precursor programs to MK-ULTRA, specializing in anthrax aerosols, possibly for for use in covert assassination.
Olson''s passport, indicates that in the summer of 1953 --only months before his death-- he had visited secret joint American-British testing and research installations near Frankfurt, Germany where he had likely witnessed terminal experiments on expendable prisoners. His misgivings were such that a British intelligence agent who became aware of them recommended that Olson be denied further access to Porton Down, the British chemical-weapons research establishment."

[samsel3]

Another case of CIA assisted suicide. Years of continuing secrecy, the CIA remains an elite organization with agendas kept beyond the realm of the FBI.

The answer to the Anthrax mystery lies with Bush, Cheney and the CIA strategists who wanted to drum up support for the invasion and regime change of seven countries. Putting the American people in fear of terrorism for their dirty game on the world stage was a disgusting choice. Using a genetically fingerprinted US Army military grade Anthrax was not very smart. They never thought anyone would research the materials genetic fingerprint. Money, power, greed for gain, they all need to be indicted for crimes against humanity in the World Court where justice will be served for all.

[vnveteran72]

Mr. Rate: That''s how a conspiracy works. Them boys on the Grassy Knoll they were dead within three hours, buried in the damnned desert, unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Nick Memphis: You know this for a fact?

Mr. Rate: Still got the shovel...

Senator Charles F. Meachum: "This is a country, where the Secretary of Defense can go on T.V., and tell the American public, oh, that "This is about freedom! It''s not about oil!" And nobody questions him, cuz they don''t wanna hear the answer, because it''s a lie! There are only so many places at the table, Gunnie. Now, are you on the INSIDE, or are you on the OUT"?

"There are no sides. There''s no Sunnis and Shiites. There''s no Democrats and Republicans. There''s only HAVES and HAVE-NOTS."



Only the HAVE''S and HAVE-NOTS.........

[impeach__w]

If we had it, Isreal tried to buy it or get it, If they had to, they found a way.
We gave the unweponized Ames strain samples to Iraq too.
There are plenty of Jewish (I''m not racist) scientists in the weponization field and some are or were on Fort. D. Mossad is like the CIA but better and more cunning. Neither are to be trusted to be used on us civialians or each other. It''s too late or us.

I am waiting for Iran to be bombed before I start my popcorn. The timetable is now pushed up to before September?? IS This AUGUST about the 30th or afterish Good for everyone? Where are all those F-117s we "retired" are they being re-fitted for a new payload and mission? Sold to isreal? Who knows?

Who benifited from this anthrax attack anyway?

[vnveteran72]

You forgot to mention the CIA assisted suicide
of Vince Foster during the Clinton regime

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Posted by SpinLiberal at 03:52 PM : Aug 03, 2008
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Spamming of Inane Neocon Gibberish only further degrades your crediblity, supposing you ever had any to begin with......LMMFAO

[clew37]

Who benefited? Why Cheney and his pals at Haliburton. Defense contracts all round because the American public is kept terrified, so we must hound and kill these evil terrorists. Hussein killed several thousand of his people, so we can at least kill over 100,000 and show them the right way to do it. Besides, scandals like these kept peoples minds off the economy and other social problems. "If terrorists can come here and kill our people, you know only we are able to keep you safe. Remember us come election day if you don''t want to die...

[vnveteran72]

"If terrorists can come here and kill our people, you know only we are able to keep you safe. Remember us come election day if you don''''t want to die...


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Posted by clew37 at 04:11 PM : Aug 03, 2008
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And don''t make a Fuss when we Subvert the Constitution and Rule of Law. After all, we''re only doing it for your own good, to keep you safe from Muslims under your bed.......

[marshall_nee]

I am waiting for Iran to be bombed before I start my popcorn. The timetable is now pushed up to before September?? IS This AUGUST about the 30th or afterish Good for everyone? Where are all those F-117s we "retired" are they being re-fitted for a new payload and mission? Sold to isreal? Who knows?

Posted by impeach__W at 03:58 PM : Aug 03, 2008

Yeah once the stock market collapses in around sept/Oct it''ll be bombs away!

[whiskyrokkr]

PATSY

[hermitdave]

I don''t guess any crack managed news reporters will take advantage of all this media attention on this guy by asking hard questions about where he worked. Questions like where did AIDS come from.

[downtowner97]

Why does the GOP attack us? They hate us for our freedom.

[rickstas]

[He said he did not know if the investigation involving Ivins "is just another false track and a real diversion of where they need to be. We don''t know, and they aren''t telling us." ]

Its not only false -- it''intentionally false!!!!

[mtracy9]

The anthrax attacks of October 2001 were obviously carried out by a neocon Black Op team in concert with the team that took down the WTC. The attacks were aimed at two Democratic Senators: Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy who were holding up the "Patriot Act" out of constitutional concerns. Just as bioweapons researcher Bruce Ivins was about to be charged with perpetrating the attacks, he commits suicide. His convenient death prevents any future investigation into the masterminds of the attacks.

[mtracy9]

The "suicide" was another neocon hit made to keep the truth of the neocon inside job from coming out.

[rudy654-2009]

He said he did not know if the investigation involving Ivins "is just another false track and a real diversion of where they need to be. We don''t know, and they aren''t telling us."
************

Well said Daschle. They aren''t telling us! At this point it has all been conveniently packaged and the news sources have bought it without question. Canned news sources, anyone?

[rudy654-2009]

Who is Dashale? oh yeah the bum that got beat a few years ago, the case is closed, he is gone and that is all that matters.


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Posted by zgomer at 08:22 PM

Hey dummy, he was one of the targets, you case you didn''t know it. That puts him in a better place than you behind your computer.

[redwhtblue2]

Daschle said the FBI has not given him any new updates. He also raised questions about the quality of the investigation, noting that the government recently paid out almost $6 million to a former Army scientist, Steven Hatfill, who accused authorities of unfairly targeting him in the anthrax case.


Good one Daschle and the right wingers go duh ha what

Right wingers go what does he mean?

[neoconrcrazy]

we have here, probably, the "suicide" of someone who had absolutely nothing to do with it.... classic !

[redwhtblue2]

Clue #1

Notice how all the Senators that were sent Anthrax letters were Democrats

Clue #2

Republicans President and VP

9/11 invasion rational for invasion into Afgan/Iraq

Clue #3

Bush Admin

Passing laws allowing US Govt to read US citizens, mail, Tap land line and cell phone calls before it was legal

Clue # 4

Fake Bin Laden

Video''s

Clue #5

National Media

Starts Blaming Al Queda right and Bin Laden before tower falls

Clue #6

Cheney tries to keep Daschel and US Senate from creating Indpendent Investigation into 9/11

Another 25 Clues not listed

But you folks get the picture

[redwhtblue2]

we have here, probably, the "suicide" of someone who had absolutely nothing to do with it.... classic !



Posted by neoconRcrazy at 03:37 AM : Aug 04, 2008

Oh but Ken Lay''s autopsy report he had a heart attack LOL

[redwhtblue2]

The anthrax attacks of October 2001 were obviously carried out by a neocon Black Op team in concert with the team that took down the WTC. The attacks were aimed at two Democratic Senators: Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy who were holding up the "Patriot Act" out of constitutional concerns. Just as bioweapons researcher Bruce Ivins was about to be charged with perpetrating the attacks, he commits suicide. His convenient death prevents any future investigation into the masterminds of the attacks.

Posted by mtracy9 at 08:20 PM : Aug 03, 2008

Media talking points

Suicide Of Suspect In 2001 Bioterrorism Attacks

Case closed

Honest I read a story the media is already reporting the case is over.

If Aliens exsist you know they''re just sitting there going Christ these people will kill themsselves and blow up their own planet for green pieces of paper.

We can wait

[marshall_nee]

Daschle Critical Of Anthrax Probe

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Daschle would do well to keep quiet, otherwise, he might be getting another ''letter'' in the not too distant future.

[xlib]

This guy''s still alive?? Geesh, don''t hear from him for years once he''s bounced and here he is, mouth and all.
Sure he doesn''t trust the investigation. Why would he. Most of the guys in the FBI were clinton hold overs.
Can we hear those famous clinton words "vast right wing consipiracy". Yea that''s it.

[neoconrcrazy]

Daschle would do well to keep quiet, otherwise, he might be getting another ''''letter'''' in the not too distant future.


Posted by Marshall_Nee



sick dude - consider yourself reported.

[marshall_nee]

Posted by neoconRcrazy at 07:42 AM : Aug 04, 2008

Sorry I was being cynical perhaps a little too much.

[neoconrcrazy]

try to imagine -

from Sept 11th to Oct 23rd 2001 only 40 days passed

and within those 40 days the anthrax was planned?

seems like very little time .....

So was it planned before 9-11 ?

It is just coincidence it happened shortly after 9-11?

Why did our government immediately accuse iraq?

When we have the knowledge to identify the various strains of anthrax and their production origin?

anyone getting frightened?

[neoconrcrazy]

Sorry I was being cynical perhaps a little too much.

Posted by Marshall_Nee


it''s ok dude - consider yourself not reported.

[jmurrieta1]

And just exactly what was this "new DNA technique" that wasn''t available in 2001 or 2003 or 2005?

Strange how our crusading free press just has never managed to get this information to the public.

It''s almost like the FBI and the Bushite administration made it up to excuse their appalling lack of performance.

Or maybe, just maybe, they don''t want us to know.