TORONTO, Aug. 2, 2008

Decapitation Suspect Allegedly Ate Victim

According To Police Tapes, Officers Observed Attacker Hacking Off Pieces Of Victim, Eating Them

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    "CBS News RAW": An eyewitness describes the brutal killing and decapitation of a seemingly innocent passenger onboard a Greyhound Canada bus traveling between Edmonton, Alta. and Winnipeg, Man

    • Vince Weiguang Li, 40, is led into the Manitoba Provicial Court in Portage La Prairie, Man. on Aug. 1, 2008. Li, accused in the beheading of a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Manitoba, has been charged with second-degree murder.

      Vince Weiguang Li, 40, is led into the Manitoba Provicial Court in Portage La Prairie, Man. on Aug. 1, 2008. Li, accused in the beheading of a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Manitoba, has been charged with second-degree murder.  (AP Photo/Winnipeg Free Press)

    • RCMP officers investigate a fatal stabbing that occured on a Greyhound bus on July 31, 2008.

      RCMP officers investigate a fatal stabbing that occured on a Greyhound bus on July 31, 2008.  (AP PHOTO)

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(CBS/ AP)  A police officer at the scene of a fatal stabbing on a Canadian bus reported seeing the attacker hacking off pieces of the victim's body and eating them, according to a police tape leaked on the Internet Saturday.

In the tape of radio transmissions, officers referred to the attacker, who also beheaded the victim, as "Badger." They said he was armed with a knife and scissors and was "defiling the body."

"Badger's at the back of the bus, hacking off pieces and eating it," an officer with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said on the tape.

The RCMP described the tapes as "operational police communications and, as such, are not meant for public consumption." The tape was posted on YouTube among other Web sites.

The employer of the man who witnesses said stabbed and beheaded his seat mate on a Greyhound bus in Canada said Saturday that he was in shock to learn that his "model employee" has been accused of the grisly attack.

Vincent Augert, an independent contractor who distributes newspapers in Edmonton, Alberta, said that Vince Weiguang Li, was one of his most reliable carriers.

"He was very punctual and always cleanly dressed," Augert told The Associated Press. "He was a very nice, polite guy. We would've had no reason to let him go before all this happened."

Li faces second-degree murder charges for the brutal late Wednesday murder of a 22-year-old man on the bus traveling a desolate stretch of the TransCanada Highway about 12 miles from Portage La Prairie, Manitoba.

Witnesses described a bloody killing that occurred as some passenger were napping and others watching "The Legend of Zorro" on television screens inside the bus. Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said there were 37 passengers on the Winnipeg, Manitoba-bound bus at the time.

Shortly after passengers reboarded following a break, the suspect - for no apparent reason - stabbed the man sitting next to him several dozen times as others fled in horror, witnesses said. He then severed the man's head, displayed it and began hacking at the body.

Li, who was in court Friday, did not reply when the judge asked him whether he was going to get a lawyer, and only nodded slightly when asked whether he was exercising his right not to speak. He was not required to enter a plea.

He shuffled into the courtroom Friday in Portage la Prairie with his head bowed and feet shackled.

The prosecutor asked for a psychiatric assessment, but the judge said he wanted to give Li a chance to meet with his lawyer. Li's next court appearance is scheduled for Tuesday. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said Li has no known criminal record.

Authorities have not released the victim's name but friends identified him as Tim McLean and said he was headed to Winnipeg after working with the carnival in Edmonton.

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Badger's at the back of the bus, hacking off pieces and eating it.

Unnamed officer with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police
William Caron, 23, said McLean was quiet, though he liked to socialize with friends. He was small - about 5-foot-4 and 130 pounds - and tended to stay away from a fight, Caron said.

"All the time I've known Tim, he's never been the type of guy to get into a fight with. He always kept to himself when there's strangers around," Caron said.

Friends started a Facebook group to remember him after news of the attack.

Friends told the Globe and Mail newspaper that a small group gathered Thursday outside the home of McLean's father, also named Tim. They greeted him as he returned home from work, and sat with him as he watched the news at his computer for the first time.
Witness Garnet Caton, who was sitting just one seat in front of the two men on the bus, said the suspect had been on the bus about an hour. He initially did not sit near the victim but changed seats after a rest stop. Caton said he did not hear the two speak to each other before the attack.

"We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly," Caton said.

Caton watched in horror as blood sprayed across the back of the bus, he told The Globe & Mail daily.

"He had a Rambo, hunting knife covered in blood and he just kept going at the guy," Caton said. "He was very calmly killing the guy and the other guy was screaming bloody murder," he added.

"There was no rage or anything. He was just like a robot stabbing the guy," Caton said.

Caton said the driver stopped the bus when he became aware of the attack and passengers raced off. A short while later, Caton said he re-boarded along with the bus driver and a trucker who had stopped to see what was happening.

He said the suspect had the victim on the floor of the bus and "was cutting his head off" with a large hunting knife.

The attacker turned toward them and the three men quickly left the bus, blocking the door as the attacker slashed at them through an opening. Caton said the driver disabled the vehicle after the attacker tried to drive it away.

As the three guarded the door with a crow bar and a hammer, the attacker went back to the body and calmly came to the front of the bus to show off the head, Caton said.


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by txgrouch2006 August 4, 2008 3:13 PM EDT
Who , even a crazy person, could stomach eating bush ?
Posted by patriot12436 at 10:54 PM : Aug 03, 2008
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I don''t follow the logic of this singlar fixation on Bush, when Congress has an EVEN LOWER approval rating.
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by patriot12436 August 4, 2008 1:54 AM EDT
lactrocinor
Who , even a crazy person, could stomach eating bush ?
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by patriot12436 August 4, 2008 1:49 AM EDT
snowbryd1
Canada has passed its laws the way the majority of the citizens want them, just as we have laws set up for the benefit of the majority. I do not know much about Canadian law so would not prejudge them for their position on what they consider to be the right laws for their people.
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by patriot12436 August 4, 2008 1:46 AM EDT
barbaraf4
The victim was already dead. The perp at that time was not posing a threat to anyone. The law says you may use deadly force in defense of yourself or someone else who is facing a deadly threat. the officer under the law had no justification to use deadly force.
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by patriot12436 August 4, 2008 1:44 AM EDT
Onolan
Now you know why i prefer to carry. Too many crazies no matter what country you are in.
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by yamuttya August 4, 2008 1:24 AM EDT
t took a while to find someone in canada that has big enough balls to deal with this liberal nutjob...


Posted by libsluv2spit at 10:06 PM : Aug 03, 2008

obviously never been to Canada you mental midget.
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by txgrouch2006 August 4, 2008 1:10 AM EDT
The problem with anti-psychotic medications is, the body builds up a resistance to them, and they stop working. The doctors have to keep changing up the medications to keep the psychosis under control.

The change-over of meds is not pretty. The patient usully needs to be hospitalized until he''s stabilized on the new meds.

With the economy the way it is, some folks are just barely making a living. I know of individuals in sales who are postponing medical treatment because they''re afraid of losing income while they''re away from work for treatment. In sales, it''s not just the time you miss. They say any time you take time away from work, it takes an equal amount of time to get your sales rate back up to what it was before you left.

So we might start seeing more medicated psychotics going off their meds because they''re relulctant to take the cure when they know they need to change meds.
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by libsluv2spit August 4, 2008 1:06 AM EDT
How long was this nut case allowed to be with the body on that bus ?


Sheese -

Posted by RosieOD4Prez at 10:02 PM : Aug 03, 2008
+ report abuse

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it took a while to find someone in canada that has big enough balls to deal with this liberal nutjob...

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by rosieod4prez August 4, 2008 1:02 AM EDT
How long was this nut case allowed to be with the body on that bus ?


Sheese -
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by o2bewealthy August 4, 2008 12:31 AM EDT
I have been in situations where I have intervened in domestic disputes, as well as intervened in socially unacceptable behavior. I''d like to think, in a situation where someone is being physically attacked, that I would at least have the sense to organize a whip-@ss gang-up posse. Of course, until it''s happening to you, you just don''t know. What disturbs me most, I think, is this young guy died knowing that no one lifted a finger. Truly - we are alone in the world.
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by o_nolan1 August 4, 2008 12:23 AM EDT
I find it amazing that this demented person has no criminal record. How does one get to the age of 40 and all of a sudden cuts someone''s head off on a bus just out of the blue. Don''t be surprised if they find more skeletons in the closet from this mentally ill person who should never be allowed to mingle with the general population ever again.
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by patriot12436 August 3, 2008 11:59 PM EDT
notmudrose
I find yoru coments to be of the most immature nature on this board. You need to grow up and learn to act in a civil manner or just leave the boards to adults who can.
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by patriot12436 August 3, 2008 11:58 PM EDT
whiskeyrocker
You and i understand because we have the training and the experience to know what we are talking about. The average person is in no way capable of dealing with such a situation. Again until you ave been there you have no idea what action you will take.
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by patriot12436 August 3, 2008 11:51 PM EDT
dartngrist is always on the psychodelic mushrooms.
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by haoli25 August 3, 2008 11:43 PM EDT
Did he have some fava beans and a nice bottle of chianti too?

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by nbaer2 August 3, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
To "Dartngriss"
Are you OK, you sound a little sick to me....
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by broncfan1661 August 3, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
Jeffery Dahmer springs to mind when reading this story. He got his come uppins in prison and I suspect this guy will as well. They aren''t allowed to carry Bowie Knives in there.
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by sociald63 August 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
wouldnt it be better if he ate a lady instead :)
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by nbaer2 August 3, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
Those passengers who were on the bus, when they are dealing with their trauma, will feel guilt. However it is not justified as it is "survivor''s guilt" and common when dealing with Post Traumatic Stress. It is easy for others to judge and to lay blame. No one really knows what they will do in a horrendous situation until they have been there themselves. You do the best that you can do at that moment, and you follow your instincts. I think the passengers on the bus will benefit more from support and help in dealing with the after effects of their ordeal. Blame does not belong here, wheras some compassion would go very far.
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by deepperppl August 3, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
It sounds like this guy is a dissociative personality, and I would question why on earth he had *scissors* on him. Who carries scissors? I think that points to forethought - 1st degree murder. Anyhow, this guy is loony tunes, likely schizophrenic on top of other problems. He''s a danger to others, so he needs to be locked up for our safety - and his. I also wonder how many people on this guy''s delivery route have disappeared under suspicious circumstances. Something to consider.
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