Man Decapitated By Seat Mate On Bus

Witnesses Say Victim Was Stabbed 40 To 50 Times And Methodically Carved Into Bits

(AP)  A man aboard a Greyhound bus repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a fellow passenger, witnesses said Thursday.

The man, who was not identified, was arrested for the murder, which occurred Wednesday night aboard a bus traveling from Edmonton, Alberta, to Winnipeg, Manitoba, The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said in a statement.

Authorities also declined to name the victim and provided no other details about the attack.

Passenger Garnet Caton said the victim was stabbed 40 or 50 times by the man sitting next to him. The passenger then allegedly severed the man's head with a large knife and held it up by the door for others to see.

"We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly, like 40 or 50 times," Caton said from a hotel in Brandon, Manitoba, where he and other passengers had been taken to rest.

Caton said the bus stopped and the passengers scrambled to disembark while the suspect allegedly began methodically carving up the man's body.

"When he was attacking him, he was calm ... like he was at the beach," Caton said. "There was no rage or, or anything. He was just like a robot stabbing the guy."

Caton said he, the bus driver and a trucker at the scene re-boarded to see what was happening.

Caton said he saw the suspect had the victim on the floor of the bus and "was cutting his head off and pretty much gutting him."

He said they quickly disembarked and braced themselves against the door to prevent the attacker from leaving while they waited for police to arrive.

"We put our bodies up against the door, waiting for him to come out ... and he went back and brought the head to the front and pretty much displayed it ... and dropped it on the ground in front of us," Caton said.

Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead told Brandon radio station CKLQ that the man "dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up."

Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said 37 passengers and one driver were on the bus.

The victim, who Caton said appeared to be about 19, had been on the bus since Edmonton. He said the attacker boarded the bus around Brandon, Manitoba, about 80 miles west of Portage La Prairie.

The suspect had been on the bus for about an hour and didn't even sit near his victim at first.

"He sat in the front at first, everything was normal," Caton said.

"We went to the next stop and he got off and had a smoke with another young lady there. When he got on the bus again, he came to the back near where I was sitting.

"He put his bags in the overhead compartment. He didn't say a word to anybody. He seemed totally normal. About a half an hour later, we heard this bloodcurdling scream."

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called it a "horrific" incident, but did not discuss details of the attack, saying he did not want to jeopardize the investigation.

"We want to make sure that the process is followed as aggressively as possible, a full legal process, and the perpetrator is definitely dealt with the full force of the law," he said.

Day called it bizarre and extremely rare.

"The horrific nature of it is probably one-of-a-kind in Canadian history," Day said.

[jaycjay]

its funny how the people who read about this are so quick to call the other passengers cowards and that they could've acted out in a moment of heroism but it would be a different case if you were on the bus and saw a man killing some one, your first instinct then would be get away from the crazy man with the knife.

[snowbyrd1]

This is absolutely terrible. My condolences to the family and I pray to God that this man is not released on an insanity plea which is probably going to happen. In that case, I hope someone is on those steps as he is released and takes him out. I strongly believe in CAPITAL PUNISHMENT if they are 100% that the person has taken a life. Society today is making a heck of a mess of humanity and its time that something drastic is done to get us back on track. Once again, the the family, my sincere condolences. To the RCMP ... helloooo... he should have been blown away!!!!

[rmendolia]

Hello,

WE are being attacked from within.

I blame Greyhound, should of had a off-site-remote security systems for rider protection. And A Greyhound bus should have more than one employee-driver on board, obviously.

I feel terrible for this person killed. It could of been my 19 year old.

[tvaughn143]

To the family of the victim, I cannot even imagine your pain. I pray that you find peace and justice.

As for the other passengers, noone can second guess your judgement, as we were not there. No one can determine how they would respond in a moment of horror such as this, and only the idiotic would dare say so.

To all else...
It looks as if the bus system of transportation will have to begin security screening and make passengers check bags that will be stored below. A metal detector prior to boarding, and huge expense to the travel industry. Same goes for trains. But terrorism, whether political or psychopathic cannot be tolerated, as long as we all claim our desire for a peaceful, civilized, lawful, society.

And Canada...As for the death penalty- don''t bother. It doesn''t work in the US as a deterent to wart off violent crime...obviously. Its process of appeal drags out a sentance too long. Now if you can get it done the day after the conviction, whereby the sentance has some teeth- well then fine, line them up and plug them in.

For this monster, feed him to the hogs. Maybe some shark fisherman can use him as chum...

[keithle1]

GO GREYHOUND!

[libsluv2spit]

Posted by Voltaire333 at 12:28 AM : Aug 02, 2008
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who said about ''TEACHING'' that killing is wrong..you cannot stop humanity from doing it..ITS SHOWING THAT killing has a very harsh REPRECUSSION..

typical bleeding heart liberal...

[voltaire333]

The death penalty is supreme hypocrisy. How do we teach that killing is wrong? By taking a life, of course! It is a curious deterent indeed that knows the life it takes but will never know the one it saves. But that''s all just metaphysical mumbo jumbo. The real life practical problem with the death penalty is that there is no inexpensive way to administer it fairly and without taking the lives of innocent people. Simply put, it''s a totally irreversible punishment, so you need to be da*mn sure you get it right. That costs money. Simple fact, it''s cheaper to put people way for life than it is to kill them. When Americans take their heads out of their ***** and get over their irrational need to kill criminals, we''ll all be better off. Killing a murderer is totally unnecessary. Life in prison is cheaper and adequate.

[thylus]

Unfortunately, Canada outlawed the death penalty in 1976.

[mythoughtsr]

Can''t drive (road rage), can''t fly (lunatic muslims), now we can''t take buses (death by decapitation), can''t take cruises (thrown off balcony to your death). What''s left? (I''m joking but I have to write this here for the challenged)

[txgrouch2006]

closethippy1 wrote
After that we''''re all on our own and at the mercy of a savage and unpredicatble world.
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Yes, that''s how it seems. Because that''s how we CHOOSE to make it.

As I wrote below, I used to work for a public school. I watched the school system MAKE criminals out of children. Why?

Because the parents force the school to do it. School personnel live and die by the number of parent complaints they get. Not by the merits of the complaints, not by the nature or if it was true or not. Just RECEIVING the complaint counts against you.

Because parents are paying the bill. Administrators and faculty are geing paid by the public. So the public leads you around by the nose.

And the fact is, the public today WANTS the schools to be criminal factories. And they get their wish.

Is there a solution? YES. But nobody is willing to use it because it would mean giving the public less control of the education system. And people think that would be worse.

[closethippy1]

I''ve always said the human mind is the result of a freak accident of nature that was never meant to be.
A lot of people are walking around with way too many demons in their heads and any kind of chemical inbalance in their brains can make them hurt or kill someone.
And those are just the "crazy" ones. Look at all the wars and mafia killings and torture and crimes of passion and honour around the world that has gone on for tens of thousands of years on a daily basis.
There''s definitely something wrong with the human species.
We''re all lucky to have been born but that''s it. After that we''re all on our own and at the mercy of a savage and unpredicatble world.

[txgrouch2006]

You should have seen his mug shot in the newspaper. He had this look on his face like "Don''''t I get a SECOND CHANCE...?"
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No, wait, I didn''t do justice.

His face was like "I''m REALLY sorry! It was an ACCIDENT! I swear, I''ll NEVER DO IT AGAIN! PLEASE, PLEEEEEZZZE give me a second chance. Give me a break! It was a mistake! Now I realize it was wrong, I would NEVER do that again after what I''ve been through. I feel like I''m older and wiser now, and I''m ready to move on. Hey, wait, why are you locking me in this cell. How many minutes before I can go home. I NEED to go home. I''m supposed to help my Mom with the housework today. For real! Let me go, I PROMISE I won''t do it again..."

[txgrouch2006]

Credibility2 wrote
It''''s also awful that no one on the bus tried to hit the attacker with some type of object
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Sigh! Here we go again.

OK, imagine this is you: you''re riding on the bus, suddenly some psycho pulls out a HUGE KNIFE and, without warning, he stabs the person next to him. The person screams and then dies instantly.

Now there you are. The passenger is dead. The killer is now holding a VERY BLOODY huge knife.

GO! GO GET HIM! YOU SHOW HIM WHO DA MAN! KLONK HIM OVER DA HEAD WITH A - UM - WITH A - UMMMM - quick, think of some big heavy thing on a bus that''s not bolted down. I know! How about this water bottle! Or that lady is reading a paperback book. Yah! Maybe THAT would knock out the psychotic killer with the huge bloody knife who just killed a person. Why not just go ahead and try it? What harm could it do?

And the victim is ALREADY DEAD, so it''s TOO LATE TO DO ANY GOOD ANYWAY. But, oh you''d better stop the crazed killer with the huge knife from cutting up that dead body. Yah, THAT''S worth dying for.

OK, ready GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[txgrouch2006]

But if you make it through the school year with less than one second chance per week, next school year starts the count over again and you get another 40 second chances.

After you got through about 100 second chances in one school year, they send you to Alternative School, or whatever they call it in your district. They used to call it "reform school." That''s where the future criminals go. It''s a school where they actuall ENFORCE the rules, and you actually get PUNISHED for things like talking in class or shooting a paper clip at the teacher with a rubber band. You know, like REGULAR SCHOOL USED TO BE when we were kids. Now that''s only for the hardened criminals.

When you graduate from reform school, then THEY PUT YOU RIGHT BACK INTO THE REGULAR CLASSROOM, and you start your 100 second chances all over again.

One of my students went through this whole sequence. Then one day he decided to rob a gas station with a gun. The clerk handed over all the money, then he shot the clerk dead.

You should have seen his mug shot in the newspaper. He had this look on his face like "Don''t I get a SECOND CHANCE...?"

Public schools are criminal factories. They teach nothing but how to be a criminal.

That''s why I quit. I don''t work there anymore.

[txgrouch2006]

lazareth wrote
Because if you keep acting the way you are she will probably come over and give you some swats on the a$$.
tomoanyt wrote
Oh good. I''''m into that sort of thing.
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LOL! Well, I''m glad we''re all friends now.

But in a public school, we''re not allowed to swat mosquitoes or anything else. No, first we send you to the principal. Well, not really, because the principal is too busy with important meetings all day. So we send you to the ASSISTANT principal, who is now called the ASSOCIATE principal because apparently they felt it wasn''t dignified enough to be called assistants.

Then the AP will give you a SECOND CHANCE. They want to give you a second chance to learn how to misbehave without getting caught. Then you go right back to the classroom and do it all over again.

If you get caught again, they''ll give you ANOTHER second chance. And another and another. They want you to keep trying until you figure out how to avoid getting caught.

Then if you use up 40 second chances in one school year (one per week), they will send you to detention. Then when you skip detention, they will suspend you. That means you have to stay home from school. And probably both of your parents have to work, so you get to be home WITH NO ADULT SUPERVISION.

[obama8years]

Someone Tell those Silly Muslims, that you cant Decapitate in Canada only in countries like Jakarta, isnt Obama from Jakarta.

OBAMA NATION NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER

Since the Media doesnt want to tell us who Obama is, will find out from someone who has interviewed and has over 100''''s of FootNotes.

Find out the truths behind Obamas Radical Past!!

Troubling indeed.

[credibility2]

There''s no excuse or explanation for something like this occurring. It''s also awful that no one on the bus tried to hit the attacker with some type of object. Maybe if the driver was armed, they could''ve tried shooting the attacker.

[tomanyt]

lazareth...Oh good. I''m into that sort of thing.

[rf35]

Maybe they victim was babbling inanely on his cell phone. That would justify the attack.

[tomanyt]

tomanyt
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txgrouch is a school teacher. FYI

Posted by lazareth
And why should that matter to me?