CIA Details Pakistan's Ties To Militants

Report: Evidence Shows Pakistan Spy Agency's Deepened Relations With Anti-American Groups

(CBS/ AP)  The CIA has confronted senior Pakistani officials with evidence showing that members of the country's spy service have deepened their ties with some militant groups responsible for a surge of violence in Afghanistan, possibly including the suicide bombing this month of the Indian Embassy in Kabul, The New York Times reported.

A top CIA official traveled to Islamabad this month with new information about ties between Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency and militants operating in Pakistan's tribal areas, the newspaper said on its Web site late Tuesday. Its sources were American military and intelligence officials it did not identify.

The Times said the CIA assessment pointed to links between the ISI and the militant network led by Jalaluddin Haqqani, which American officials believe maintains close ties to senior figures of al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas.

The CIA has depended heavily on the ISI for information about militants in Pakistan despite long-standing concerns about divided loyalties within the Pakistani spy service, which had close relations with the Taliban in Afghanistan before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the U.S.

The visit to Pakistan by the CIA official, Stephen R. Kappes, the agency's deputy director, was described by several American military and intelligence officials in interviews in recent days, the Times said. Some of those who were interviewed made clear that they welcomed the decision by the CIA to take a harder line toward the ISI's dealings with militant groups.

Pakistan's prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, is in Washington meeting with Bush administration officials. In an interview broadcast Tuesday on PBS television show "The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," Gilani said that to say that some in the ISI are "sympathetic to the militants, this is not believable. ... We will not allow that."

CIA spokeswoman Marie Harf refused to comment on the Times report late Tuesday.

A senior American official told the newspaper, "It was a very pointed message saying, ‘Look, we know there’s a connection, not just with Haqqani but also with other bad guys and ISI, and we think you could do more and we want you to do more about it.'"

The newspaper said it was unclear whether CIA officials have concluded that contacts between the ISI and militant groups are blessed at the highest levels of Pakistan's spy service and military or are carried out by rogue elements of Pakistan's security apparatus.

Kappes made his secret visit to Pakistan on July 12, joining Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, for meetings with senior Pakistani civilian and military leaders, the Times said.

The meetings took place days after a suicide bomber attacked the Indian Embassy in Kabul, killing dozens. Afghanistan's government has publicly accused the ISI of having a hand in the attack.

[impeach__w]

Who was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini? If there was no conspiracy, he would have been tried and hung at Nurenberg. Instead he preach Nazi hate to the ME until the 70''s

If you do not know who this is you cannot possibly understand the current issues in the Middle East.
Throughout World War II, al-Husayni worked for the Axis Powers as a broadcaster in propaganda targeting Arab public opinion. He recruited Muslim volunteers for the German armed forces operating in the Balkans. Al-Husayni was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions of the Waffen SS and other units. The largest was the 13th "Handschar" division conducted operations against Communist partisans in the Balkans and Yugoslav Jews. He faced trial at Nuremburg escaped to Egypt and hired by British intelligence due to his influence in Middle East and our strategic need for oil. He was an idol of Arafat and Sadamm He died in 1974 and was active in the regions politics until his death.
At the Nuremberg Trials, Eichmann%u2019s deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified:

The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann%u2019s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures

[impeach__w]

Just because there is-was-has been a gov supported conspiracy with our enemies does not indicate that I am a nut or even a conspiacy nut. Do you think a conspiacy has never happened? If so YOU are nuts or don''t know your history very well...

For example Some iraqi leaders were/ are being executeted for using chemical weapons that we among others provided, trained to use and provided intellegence on when and where to use on iran while we we also traded arms drugs and money during Iran- contra. one example. That sir is a conspiacy where we in one fell swoop WE supported Iraq, Iran, Contras and Hezbolah and other terror groups plus the CIA made lots of secret money which they need for other unacknowledged wars.

we supported many enemy dictators - Stalin, Fidel castro, Manuel noregia, Ho chi minh to name a few. Anyone in africa or south american or SE asia who was not currently supporting communism - almost all of them.

[baldwin2008]

Impeach W,
Yes most of our enemies have been given aide by us at one time or another. Two reasons; we are the most generous country on earth; we use other countries militias to do dirty work for us. No conspiracies there. But, don''t act like it all because of evil ulterior motives. Thats when you get labeled a conspiracy nut.

[baldwin2008]

Nincomp - here is some additional education about the "Palestinians" you might benefit from.
http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm

[baldwin2008]

Nincomp... read a little REAL history. Israel is Israel''s - The Palestinians are not the Philestines they claim they are. The pottery and artifacts are being continually found that PROVE that Israel was the Jews'' since the Davidic Period. It was only after the Jews re-inhabited their homeland of Judea and Samaria, that the fable of an Arab Palestinian nation was created. Arafat himself was born in EGYPT!

Get a clue Nincomp.

[nincomp]

From Mahalapril""Do you really believe that? Anyway Israel would be forced to bomb Iran to protect their existence.Iran has repeatedly stated that they will wipe out Israel from the Map.""

I think Iran was referring to the part of Israel that was built on the land forcibly taken from the Palestinians. Iran would be fully justified in that and you should appreciate Iran for working for the oppressed people of Palestine.

[nincomp]

Don''t be fooled by the CIA. It''s the same Republican driven organization that declared there are WMDs in Iraq.

Didn''''t the CIA find no foregin links to these blasts in an article on this very site?
I said it was the ISI and not al-queda! So I told you so!

Now Explain the links between the CIA and ISI and you can see how the CIA is also helping to support terror while at the same time fighting it. It''''''''s
the Same old story, Each one of America''''''''s Enemies was supported by US or our allies and sometimes by the CIA for years or decades.
Name one of our enemies who did not get our aid by one source or another. Go ahead try...

Posted by impeach__w
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And who was it that made that statement ????
Something about "chickens coming home to roost"
Who was that guy... some sort of preacher in Chicago???

[beboldin09]

Crazy Muslims. Wake up before it''s too late.

[impeach__w]

Posted by terrorislamv re: conspiracy nut alert,,,
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Name one of our enemies who did not get our aid by one source or another. Go ahead try...

Couldn''t name one could you?

You weren''t calling me a conspiracy nut when I said the ISI and not al-queda blew up the Indian embassy did ya loser?

[mahalapril]

nmn421 -War in Afghanistan/Pakistan is nothing compared to Iran.Iran is developing nuclear weapons program. It has trained,finance and exported worldwide islamic fanatics.You could read or hear news about these small muslim uprisings all over the world.The one that is well known is Hezbollah who now has veto power in the Lebanese gov''t.Iran wants to convert the world to Islam and that is why they will not give up uranium enrichment which Iran says is for peaceful purposes like electricity.Do you really believe that? Anyway Israel would be forced to bomb Iran to protect their existence.Iran has repeatedly stated that they will wipe out Israel from the Map.

[missingamerica]

Boring, ain''t it?

All the time all that you hear is some country whose leader Bush is friends with is either funding terrorism, working with terrorists, or working for the terrorists.

And when you''re not reading that, you''re all the time reading "Republican So-and-So busted/indicted/something".

lollll...and to think the "Christian right" hooked their star to the Republican wagon...

Hey...wait a minute...maybe the "Christian right" is working for the bad guys, too...or would that be "bad guy"?

[impeach__w]

Didn''t the CIA find no foregin links to these blasts in an article on this very site?
I said it was the ISI and not al-queda! So I told you so!

Now Explain the links between the CIA and ISI and you can see how the CIA is also helping to support terror while at the same time fighting it. It''''s
the Same old story, Each one of America''''s Enemies was supported by US or our allies and sometimes by the CIA for years or decades.
Name one of our enemies who did not get our aid by one source or another. Go ahead try...

[questionnews]

I can''t wait till Obama is Prez & the whole world will surrender their agendas, lay down thier weapons, thier hearts will fill with love, hug thier former enemies, reject terrorism. Yep, when Obama is Prez. there will be a world wide utopia of gum drop raindows & roads made of gold.
It''s gonna be great!!! Vote the big "O"

[randynason]

Is this really any surprise? I think that most of the Middle Eastern countries are extremely suspicious of our motives and fear retaliation from the U.S. if they do not kiss Bush''s arse quickly or passionately enough to please him. No wonder they go to bed with terrorists and militants. To them, it''s all about feeling protected and safe- FROM US!

[vietnam21]

CUT OFF 6 BILLION AND 236 MILLION IN AID RECENTLY....DAMMMMM IT.. AAND BOM THEY NUKE FACILITY.

[whyafghan]

And please note that the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States stated in 2005 that - America''s intelligence community needs fundamental change to successfully confront the threats of the 21st century.
So now based upon much of this same intelligence - that the US will move to Afghanistan. LOL. Is that not grand.

[whyafghan]

Afghanistan should be "the central front of the war on terror mnm421

Good you send your children off to fight that STUPID conflict then. I still stand by BRING THE TROOPS HOME.

[mnm421]

John Mcsame is not commander and chief, he says Iraq is "the central front of the war on terror" but not Afghanistan. Terrorist funded, recruited, and send abroad from Wazziristan to Afghanistan, and other western countries.
Those terrorist is not coming from Iraq to Afghanistan and blowing themselves up. Terror started in Afghanistan, and Wziristan Pakistan. Afghanistan should be "the central front of the war on terror" Not god *** Iraq, it was stupid invasion.

[downsteamjim]

To terrorislamv: Be careful when your say that ''Hussien is no commander in chief''. Most on the left will think you are talking about Saddam and Saddam is one of their true heroes.