5 Bomb Attacks Kill Scores In Iraq

Triple Suicide Blasts Kill 28 Shiite Pilgrims In Baghdad, 15 Dead At Kurdish Rally In Kirkuk

(CBS/AP)  Three suicide bombers and a roadside bomb struck Shiite pilgrims taking part in a massive religious procession in Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 28 people and wounding 92, police said.

The attacks occurred in quick succession as tens of thousands of Shiite worshippers streamed toward a shrine in northern Baghdad for an annual event marking the death of an eighth-century saint. The event climaxes on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, officials said at least 15 people had been killed and 54 wounded when a suicide bomber struck a Kurdish rally in the disputed city of Kirkuk in Iraq's north.

Police and hospital officials said the attack occurred as demonstrators gathered to protest a draft provincial elections law that is being debated in parliament. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to release the information.

Kurdish objections over a proposed power-sharing formula on the provincial council in Kirkuk have blocked the law from being passed. Kirkuk is in an oil-rich area and many Kurds consider it to be part of their historical land. The area is home to Kurds, Turkomen, Arabs and smaller groups.

Police said there were indications that the Baghdad suicide bombers were women. At least two children were among the dead, said police officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

The attacks took place in the mainly Shiite Karradah district, which is several miles away from the site of the pilgrimage in Kazimiyah, northern Baghdad. The majority of the dead were women and children, police and health officials said.

Mustapha Abdullah, a 32-year-old man who was injured in the stomach and legs, said the blasts took place when pilgrims from Baghdad's predominantly Shiite neighborhood of Zaafaraniyah reached the district's Kahramanah Square.

"I heard women and children crying and shouting and I saw burned women as dead bodies lay in pools of blood on the street," said Abdullah, speaking at the hospital where he was being treated.

Insurgents have increasingly been using women this year to stage suicide bombings in a bid to avoid security measures. Women are more easily able to hide explosives under their all-encompassing black Islamic robes, or abayas, and they often are not searched at checkpoints.

Security forces have deployed about 200 women volunteers this week to search female pilgrims near the Baghdad district of Kazimiyah, where the Shiite saint is buried in a golden domed shrine.

In other developments:

A platoon of U.S. soldiers sprayed a car full of Iraqi civilians with gunfire and later put out a release riddled with errors, including the false assertion that the victims were criminals who had opened fire on the troops, The New York Times reported Monday. In a statement Sunday night, the U.S. military said of the June 25 incident, "a thorough investigation determined that the driver and passengers were law-abiding citizens of Iraq," but added that the soldiers were not at fault for the killings.

A prison with no prisoners north of Baghdad serves as a chronicle of U.S. government waste, misguided planning and construction shortcuts costing $40 million and stretching back to the American overseers who replaced Saddam Hussein. "It's a bit of a monument in the desert right now because it's not going to be used as a prison," said Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, whose office plans to release a report Monday detailing the litany of problems at the vacant detention center in Khan Bani Saad.

On Sunday, at least seven pilgrims were killed south of Baghdad in an ambush by gunmen near a Sunni town, Madain, south of the capital.

The marchers were commemorating the death in 799 A.D. of Imam Moussa ibn Jaafar al-Kadhim, one of the 12 principle Shiite imams.

Since the 2003 ouster of Saddam Hussein, who was a Sunni, Shiite political parties have encouraged huge turnouts at religious festivals to display the majority sect's power in Iraq. Sunni religious extremists have often targeted the gatherings to foment sectarian war, but that has not stopped the Shiites.

In 2005, at least 1,000 people were killed in a bridge stampede caused by rumors of a suicide bomber in Baghdad during the Kazimiyah pilgrimage.

But recent pilgrimages have been relatively peaceful as a U.S. troop buildup, a Sunni revolt against al Qaeda in Iraq and a Shiite militia cease-fire helped drive violence down to its lowest level in more than four years.

Sunday's ambush occurred in a former al Qaeda in Iraq stronghold that has been touted by the U.S. military as a success story with its streets now patrolled by U.S.-allied Sunni groups known as Awakening Councils.

The main Iraqi military spokesman in Baghdad, Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, on Sunday said 100,000 Iraqi security forces will be deployed along with U.S. reinforcements and air support to protect the ceremonies in kazimiyah.

Vehicles have been banned from the area and most Baghdad bridges would be closed to traffic, al-Moussawi said, adding that pilgrims were banned from carrying weapons or cell phones - rules that have been widely flouted in the past.

The Kazimiyah ceremonies have in the past attracted around 1 million pilgrims. They have often been chaotic, with the task of protecting the pilgrims stretching police resources.

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by smirk5 July 28, 2008 8:20 AM EDT

Imagine someone years ago telling us that we''d invade Iraq, that it would ultimately cost a trillion dollars, that Iran would gain more influence in Iraq, that we''d lose over 4,000 troops, that 150,000-500,000 Iraqi civilians would die, that there would be nearly 2 million Iraqi refugees, that gas would still cost 4 dollars/gallon, and that Al-Qaeda would take the opportunity to rebuild in Afghanistan. And then, they would call it a success and say we had won. Crazy isn''t it?
Well, that''s John McCain''s position right now. He''s said he''d do it again.

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by pirmin3 July 28, 2008 8:47 AM EDT

Gotta love that surge McSame. Go get ''em tiger.

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by smirk5 July 28, 2008 8:56 AM EDT

Now if the enemy has been on the run since last Sept. like Bush told us, and even if they were only running at, say, 5 miles per hour, they still would be way out of Iraq by now. But, lo and behold, boom!, bombs go off in Baghdad again. I''m betting they were never on the run. I bet they live in houses and sleep at night.

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by brianbwb-2009 July 28, 2008 9:07 AM EDT

to Posted by Smirk5

some more objective numbers for you to consider,

"Just Foreign Policy, an independent organisation "dedicated to reforming U.S. foreign policy" offered an updated total of 1,213,716 at the time of this writing.

On Sep. 14, 2007, Opinion Research Business (ORB), an independent polling agency located in London, produced a figure of 1,220,580 deaths as a result of the invasion.

These estimates are above any official figures from Iraq, but they do consider the reported official figures.

Iraqis believe that the authorities are hiding these figures. "The U.S. military benefits from hiding the real totals," said a political analyst who declined to give his name because of the atmosphere of fear within Iraq. "And the Iraqi government is a puppet of the Americans, so their figures are ridiculously low as well."

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by smirk5 July 28, 2008 9:13 AM EDT

brianbwb,

I''m way more apt to believe the higher numbers you mention. Everything is always way worse than this gov''t lets out. Did you see that Paris is way closer to Landstuhl than Berlin is and McCain didn''t visit our wounded troops there in March when he traveled to Paris? I wonder why he didn''t find the time.

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by nextgenman July 28, 2008 9:28 AM EDT

The religion of peace at work again.

Posted by lazareth at 06:24 AM : Jul 28, 2008
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But, but but....I thought the "surge" fixed all of this and McCain could take the credit? You changing your story now?

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by nextgenman July 28, 2008 9:29 AM EDT

Did the bombers cross the border from Pakistan?

Posted by onemoretim at 06:17 AM : Jul 28, 2008
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No, they came from Czechoslovakia.

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by nextgenman July 28, 2008 9:59 AM EDT

Leave it to Anti-Ameican Democrats to place the blame on America. Democrats will come up with any excuse to protect their friends in IRAN and Al Qaeda who do the Genocide. Just like all Democrats and O''''Bama, you never hear a bad word said to the terrorists murders.

Posted by demslie2u at 06:53 AM : Jul 28, 2008
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Tell us how that surge is working again? HAHAHAHA!

Leave it to a desperate "I don''t care how many freckle-faced American kids die for my pride" condoofus to flip-flop like a beached perch when their screeching gets thrown back it their faces.

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by petro49l July 28, 2008 10:32 AM EDT

Another 39 rank and file Arabs killed-off by Bin Laden. Many were simple religious Pilgrims observing the holy day. Osama''s elitist attitude has led to this regional genocide. He feels more powerful when the average people are slain. He becomes solitary, vocal, and dominant.

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by ajaxtheleast July 28, 2008 10:37 AM EDT

WOW!

92 WOUNDED, 28 DEAD,

THREE FEMALE SUICIDE BOMBERS,

ONE CAR BOMB AND A

HERMAPHRODITE PARTRIDGE SUICIDE BOMBER

IN A POMEGRANATE TREE!!!

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by tbweb July 28, 2008 10:38 AM EDT

Did the bombers cross the border from Pakistan?

Posted by onemoretim at 06:17 AM : Jul 28, 2008
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No, they came from Czechoslovakia.

Posted by nextGenMan at 06:29 AM : Jul 28, 2008,,,

McCain is using 1931 maps, so from his perspective Czechoslovakia is still there, hey, maybe McCain knows something we don''t, maybe Czechoslovakia is coming back! We`re about to be lost in the McCain time warp!

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by obama441 July 28, 2008 10:45 AM EDT

I probably did kill women and children in Vietnam posted by patriot12436....libs keep an eye on that coward

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by antoniof123 July 28, 2008 10:47 AM EDT

WHY I ask?

Posted by MyOpinion1 at 07:35 AM : Jul 28, 2008

To show the horrors of war and why it should be avoided and not allowed to be some joke. If you don''t like the pictures don''t complain help get us out of this war for lies and oil sooner rather than later.

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by antoniof123 July 28, 2008 10:47 AM EDT

WHY I ask?

Posted by MyOpinion1 at 07:35 AM : Jul 28, 2008

To show the horrors of war and why it should be avoided and not allowed to be some joke. If you don''t like the pictures don''t complain help get us out of this war for lies and oil sooner rather than later.

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by atxchill July 28, 2008 10:47 AM EDT

Car bomb in the middle east? Why is this news? Just another day at the office for these people. When is the useless American mainstream media gonna figure out that the American people dont care about that *** anymore, especially when we have $4/gallon gas, cant sell/buy a home, food prices thru the roof, little job security, out of control debt, losing our personal liberties, etc. I hope the worthless idiots who run this stupid site/"news" station are paying attention, but I doubt it. All they care about is the money they make off of advertising. Thats why theyre worthless idiots.

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by atxchill July 28, 2008 10:49 AM EDT

Nice to see these people have figured out how to censor the word ***. What a waste this site is.

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by mljohns00 July 28, 2008 10:57 AM EDT

I never thought I''d admit it, but I was wrong. The Surge worked. Now it''s time to leave. Bye.

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by skyk-2009 July 28, 2008 11:02 AM EDT

Why are we in Iraq again? When you are into the 6th year of a 6 month war and people are still killing each other there''s a pretty good bet that things are not what they should be. The Shiite''s have been killing Sunni''s and the other way around for 1500 years. Shouldn''t we be taking care of business, the business of the American People. We were attacked and we entered the Nation who''s government refused to turn over those responsible for that attack so we went into that Country to bring those people to justice. How we ended up in Iraq and near Bankruptcy is a matter of a string of lies as long as your arm.

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by realpatriot1 July 28, 2008 11:21 AM EDT

The surge is working but it''s still tenuous and we can''t leave yet but we''re drawing down troops right now more precipitously(5 brigades this summer vs. 1-2 per month next year)than Obama is proposing. He was wrong and we were right...HUH?

If we had done what Obama had wanted the Iraqi government would have been under more pressure to take control sooner and we would have more of our troops already out of harm''s way.

McBush opposed the original surge at the beginning of the occupation and refuses to acknowledge that he tacitly supported every strategic mistake made by the administration in the conduct of this war of choice.

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 11:30 AM EDT

Which surge is this now?
Sorry I get so confused with this stuff.

Gawd if this keeps up---Bush won''t have any time to invade Iran before he gets out.

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 11:32 AM EDT

No, they came from Czechoslovakia.

Posted by nextGenMan at 06:29 AM : Jul 28, 2008,,,

LOL LOL And McCain knows this for certain!

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 11:33 AM EDT

When you show US stories, you don''''t see that sort of thing? Most of the time it''''s some stupid graphic of a bomb with a lit fuse or a gun graphic with police "no not cross" yellow tape superimposed over it, or at the very least, a picture of a person with their head in their hair with a pained expression. Would you have shown pictures yesterday of the church victims lying in pools of blood? Then why do I need to see this young man''''s bleeding crotch? WHY I ask?


Posted by MyOpinion1 at 07:

Because it''s real, because we never should have gone to Iraq---the blood you see is on Bush''s hands.

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by smirk5 July 28, 2008 11:34 AM EDT

McCain is missing the big picture. Americans are getting sick of neverending war. If things get really stable in Iraq, Americans want out. If things get super bad again in Iraq, Americans want out. McCain has painted himself into the corner of all war all the time.

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by smirk5 July 28, 2008 11:36 AM EDT

Rope a dope. It''s an old boxing trick. The enemy hasn''t gone anywhere. It lives and sleeps in Iraq and isn''t on the run.

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by barbaraf4 July 28, 2008 11:41 AM EDT

I suspect Blackwater creates these little diversions periodically. Cheney and Bush use these to justify the war. Actually, I''m surprised they haven''t taken out another landmark in the US. Fear before elections has proven to be a winning tactic in Karl Rove''s dirty campaign rulebook.

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 11:49 AM EDT

I suspect Blackwater creates these little diversions periodically. Cheney and Bush use these to justify the war. Actually, I''''m surprised they haven''''t taken out another landmark in the US. Fear before elections has proven to be a winning tactic in Karl Rove''''s dirty campaign rulebook.

Posted by barbaraf4

Well right now, the Bush terrorists know we suspect they had something to do with 911--if we are attacked again prior to election we''ll know for sure they did.

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by loncheneyjr July 28, 2008 11:54 AM EDT

John McCain intends to maintain the surge indefinitely. At this time we have a wall around Baghdad and we conduct nearly all official business within that wall. Everywhere else we let the Iraqi army negotiate its existence...and it is all dirty from first to last. To keep things like this, as McCain assumes will take about 300 to 400 billion a year and will require a forced draft of our young people. John McCain will have to be a little more specific about his intentions other than simply naming his intentions without any explanation as to how he will accomplish these objectives....will he draft?

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by loncheneyjr July 28, 2008 12:07 PM EDT

How many more injured will John McCain cause if he decides to draft? MCCAIN INTENDS TO MAINTAIN THIS WAR AD INFINITUM, BUT THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PERSONNEL FOR THIS WAR IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN...SO IN EFFECT MCCAIN IS SAYING HE WILL DRAFT!!! HOW MANY MORE INJURED AND KILLED WILL HE CREATE...ON TOP OF THAT THIS MAN IS TALKING ABOUT STARTING MORE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH RUSSIA!!! IS THIS MAN KIDDING? I HAVE HAD A SERIOUS CHANGE OF MIND ABOUT McCAIN VERY SUDDENLY!! Senator we are pretty much tired of Bush and at this time you dont sound like bush, you sound even worse!!!!

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by missingamerica July 28, 2008 12:12 PM EDT

My nomination for the most hypothetical assumption you will see on CBS today:

"Sunni religious extremists have often targeted the gatherings to foment sectarian violence..."

That must be a difficult call to make, when you have been foolish enough to invade a region of the world where the individual can be sacrificed for religious goals; a region with some neighbors who see the United States remaining in Iraq forever as an ideal outcome; a region where the earth itself yields riches that attracts some who have historically not been averse to using death and destruction as a business tool...

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 12:21 PM EDT

When a Muslim woman walks into a market and detonates a suicide bomb to kill herself and everyone around her, whose fault is it?
Posted by ddhinnyc

Depends, were they doing that BEFORE the US invaded Iraq?

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by timdgrim July 28, 2008 12:21 PM EDT

John McCain really supports the "Splurge" not the "Surge". The splurge is an open ended jackpot for the Military Industrial Complex to keep making billions. The Military Industrial Complex is on McCain''s side and feed him $$$$$ to keep it going, just like they did and do Dubya DumbA$$.
After all, what are a few hundred thousand sacrificed people when profits are a plenty for Warmongers Incorporated!

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by missingamerica July 28, 2008 12:22 PM EDT

what is wrong with that filthy cult that encourages terrorism and murder of innocents?

Posted by ddhinnyc at 09:15 AM : Jul 28, 2008

I do not know, but perhaps people who use phrases like "filthy cult" on international comment boards help to reinforce the mullahs'' message to their youths that they are involved in a religious war to the death, and Islam''s ultimate survival is at stake?

I am sure that Islam - as daily events publicise - is no better than Christianity at restraining those among them who would sow hate against all others who do not conform to the "proper" belief system.

No doubt somewhere a mullah even now is using words like "filthy cult" to describe Christianity - or Judaism, or Buddhhism, or Shintoism, or Hinduism.

All religions have their share of hate-filled *****.

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 12:27 PM EDT

makes no difference

Posted by jamesm12341 at 09:26 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Well, yes jwind11 it does---this was not going on in Iraq before Bushs'' invasion.

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by beehive21-2009 July 28, 2008 12:28 PM EDT

Time to outlaw that stupid dress code its only used to carry explosives,they believe we are stupid ,and will continue to let them dress in a bomb hiding outfit,ban the robs,the women will be glad you did.

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by missingamerica July 28, 2008 12:30 PM EDT

Time to outlaw that stupid dress code its only used to carry explosives,they believe we are stupid ,and will continue to let them dress in a bomb hiding outfit,ban the robs,the women will be glad you did.

Posted by beehive21 at 09:28 AM : Jul 28, 2008

"..the women will be glad you did."?

lollll...kind of like "the Iraqis will treat us as liberators", and all will be flowers, milk, and honey?

Wow...sometimes my naive fellow Americans, with their provincial outlooks and their bigoted arrogance, embarrass me....

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by whitemale08 July 28, 2008 12:33 PM EDT

The SURGE IS A FAILURE!!!!!!!

When oh when are you Republicans, John McShame, and these idiotic junkyard dogs like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News going to admit it.

Today you people look like CLOWNS after you celebrated all last week about the so called "success" of the Surge.

Obama''s judgement is just to powerfull for you Repubs who are too stubborn to admit that the Iraq war was a complete and utter disaster and that the Surge was a complete FAILURE.

Bush needs to step down and let Obama get us the hell out of Iraq plain and simple before it''s too late!!!

We Americans can''t take anymore of your failures!!!

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 12:35 PM EDT

Time to outlaw that stupid dress code its only used to carry explosives,they believe we are stupid ,and will continue to let them dress in a bomb hiding outfit,ban the robs,the women will be glad you did.

Posted by beehive21 at 09:28 AM : Jul 28, 2008


Yeah--lets have a standard universal dress code, personally I thing the Amish could dress a little better--they all look alike!

Who cares if they have been dressing like they are--for generations.

I''m for it---Universal Dress Code--that should keep the senate busy til November.

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 12:37 PM EDT

um, yes it was....your lame desire to blame Bush for everything in your life has clouded your memory.

Posted by jamesm12341 at 09:29 AM : Jul 28, 2008

My life is fine--what Bush has done to the entire world disgusts me--not only will this country be "better off" once Bush is out---they world just may be a better place---what wonderful contributions have you made to society jwing11?

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by missingamerica July 28, 2008 12:40 PM EDT

We Americans can''t take anymore of your failures!!!

Posted by whitemale08 at 09:33 AM : Jul 28, 2008

The Republicans'' primary problem is arrogance.

Having succeeded in smashing organized labor in the United States through the simple method of offshoring all of the jobs, they now live in a world where their word is law because they have the people who work for them subjugated through economic dependency.

They took that "You are fired!" arrogance and tried to translate it upon the international stage at the point of a gun...

They constantly fail to grasp a simple reality: Just because their sole motive is the accumulation of more money and the very weight of that money allows them to control America and Americans does not mean that all of the peoples of the world are as equally as bound by money.

lolllll...even as that attitude burns us in the Middle East, we ignore the growing strength of China and its acts of political suppression - somehow believing that they will not go "to far" as if China too were ultimately to be constrained by "the golden handcuffs"....

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 12:48 PM EDT

folks, liberalme thinks that suicide bombings didnt happen before Bush was president.

Posted by jamesm12341 at 09:40 AM

Come on now jwind11 I know you love the attention---but I don''t feel like putting up with your stupidity today---the topic of the story is sucide bombing in IRAQ--ok?

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by whitemale08 July 28, 2008 12:53 PM EDT

lolllll...even as that attitude burns us in the Middle East, we ignore the growing strength of China and its acts of political suppression - somehow believing that they will not go "to far" as if China too were ultimately to be constrained by "the golden handcuffs"....


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Posted by ibsteve2u at 09:40 AM : Jul 28, 2008--

What amazes me even more is that these junkyard dogs like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh along with Fox Noise, will use the "over the top" rhetoric that boxes themselves within a cocoon of failure.

It''s always "Pride before a Crash" that these so called Christian Republicans should know about but yet they are bent on crashing themselves in embarrassment because they are too pridefull and arrogant to admit that they are failures!

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by missingamerica July 28, 2008 12:54 PM EDT

Why is every terrorist today a Muslim?

Posted by ddhinnyc at 09:51 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Sure wish you knew - just ONCE - what you were talking about, ddhinnyc...

See http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm

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by missingamerica July 28, 2008 12:57 PM EDT

Why is every terrorist today a Muslim?

Posted by ddhinnyc at 09:51 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Sure wish you knew - just ONCE - what you were talking about, ddhinnyc...

See http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm

Posted by ibsteve2u at 09:54 AM : Jul 28, 2008

lollll...oh, waittttttt...I remember last week you said you had recently been to Israel, and you also mentioned how many people of Jewish origin that you personally knew in New York City who [blah hate blah hate]...

You have a RELIGIOUS motive for targeting the Islamic faith with your hate - a motive based upon your hawkish pro-Israel attitudes, do you not?

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by missingamerica July 28, 2008 1:05 PM EDT

Questions for Democrats: In the last 10 years, how many terrorist attacks have been committed by Muslims? How many have been committed by non-Muslims?

(Watch this. Their heads will be SPINNING LIKE A TOP with this one trying to figure out what to say.)

Posted by ddhinnyc at 10:01 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Oh, shoot...I am an Independent, or else I would refer you (again) to http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm...

But there is no reason to confuse the public and perhaps sidetrack them from your ultimate goal of genocide against all who practices Islam, is there, ddinnyc?

lollll...the shades of Hitler arise in those you would least expect it from...

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 1:08 PM EDT

You have a RELIGIOUS motive for targeting the Islamic faith with your hate - a motive based upon your hawkish pro-Israel attitudes, do you not?

Posted by ibsteve2u at 09:57 AM :

Awww is dhinnyc really Joe LIEberman--the US Republican representative for Israel?

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by liberalme July 28, 2008 1:10 PM EDT

she is not the sharpest knife in drawer folks.

Posted by jamesm12341 at 10:05 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Ya like that one huh jwind11? Not the sharpest knife in the drawer?

Well----you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic---

more stupidity.

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by missingamerica July 28, 2008 1:11 PM EDT

You have a RELIGIOUS motive for targeting the Islamic faith with your hate - a motive based upon your hawkish pro-Israel attitudes, do you not?

Posted by ibsteve2u at 09:57 AM :

Awww is dhinnyc really Joe LIEberman--the US Republican representative for Israel?

Posted by liberalme at 10:08 AM : Jul 28, 2008

lollll...nawww, I doubt it. Lieberman is strictly a puppet - you can see it in his eyes.

I dislike those who attempt to spread hate in general, and those who do it with lies and distortions in particular.

Lieberman, as yet, is fairly careful to stay this side of that line, as it poses a huge risk to "electability".

For instance, could you see someone who preaches hate like "ddinnyc" being elected?

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by concorde5 July 28, 2008 1:13 PM EDT

I didn''t know Timothy McVeigh was a muslim!

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by hotpaulie July 28, 2008 1:13 PM EDT

Surprise?! The "surge" appeared to work for a couple weeks and the Republicans start beating their chests in "victory." This country is a lost cause. Thank you Mr. President.

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by concorde5 July 28, 2008 1:14 PM EDT

I didn''t know Ted Kaczynski was a muslim!

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[smirk5]

Imagine someone years ago telling us that we''d invade Iraq, that it would ultimately cost a trillion dollars, that Iran would gain more influence in Iraq, that we''d lose over 4,000 troops, that 150,000-500,000 Iraqi civilians would die, that there would be nearly 2 million Iraqi refugees, that gas would still cost 4 dollars/gallon, and that Al-Qaeda would take the opportunity to rebuild in Afghanistan. And then, they would call it a success and say we had won. Crazy isn''t it?
Well, that''s John McCain''s position right now. He''s said he''d do it again.

[pirmin3]

Gotta love that surge McSame. Go get ''em tiger.

[smirk5]

Now if the enemy has been on the run since last Sept. like Bush told us, and even if they were only running at, say, 5 miles per hour, they still would be way out of Iraq by now. But, lo and behold, boom!, bombs go off in Baghdad again. I''m betting they were never on the run. I bet they live in houses and sleep at night.

[brianbwb-2009]

to Posted by Smirk5

some more objective numbers for you to consider,

"Just Foreign Policy, an independent organisation "dedicated to reforming U.S. foreign policy" offered an updated total of 1,213,716 at the time of this writing.

On Sep. 14, 2007, Opinion Research Business (ORB), an independent polling agency located in London, produced a figure of 1,220,580 deaths as a result of the invasion.

These estimates are above any official figures from Iraq, but they do consider the reported official figures.

Iraqis believe that the authorities are hiding these figures. "The U.S. military benefits from hiding the real totals," said a political analyst who declined to give his name because of the atmosphere of fear within Iraq. "And the Iraqi government is a puppet of the Americans, so their figures are ridiculously low as well."

[smirk5]

brianbwb,

I''m way more apt to believe the higher numbers you mention. Everything is always way worse than this gov''t lets out. Did you see that Paris is way closer to Landstuhl than Berlin is and McCain didn''t visit our wounded troops there in March when he traveled to Paris? I wonder why he didn''t find the time.

[nextgenman]

The religion of peace at work again.

Posted by lazareth at 06:24 AM : Jul 28, 2008
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But, but but....I thought the "surge" fixed all of this and McCain could take the credit? You changing your story now?

[nextgenman]

Did the bombers cross the border from Pakistan?

Posted by onemoretim at 06:17 AM : Jul 28, 2008
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No, they came from Czechoslovakia.

[nextgenman]

Leave it to Anti-Ameican Democrats to place the blame on America. Democrats will come up with any excuse to protect their friends in IRAN and Al Qaeda who do the Genocide. Just like all Democrats and O''''Bama, you never hear a bad word said to the terrorists murders.

Posted by demslie2u at 06:53 AM : Jul 28, 2008
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Tell us how that surge is working again? HAHAHAHA!

Leave it to a desperate "I don''t care how many freckle-faced American kids die for my pride" condoofus to flip-flop like a beached perch when their screeching gets thrown back it their faces.

[petro49l]

Another 39 rank and file Arabs killed-off by Bin Laden. Many were simple religious Pilgrims observing the holy day. Osama''s elitist attitude has led to this regional genocide. He feels more powerful when the average people are slain. He becomes solitary, vocal, and dominant.

[ajaxtheleast]

WOW!

92 WOUNDED, 28 DEAD,

THREE FEMALE SUICIDE BOMBERS,

ONE CAR BOMB AND A

HERMAPHRODITE PARTRIDGE SUICIDE BOMBER

IN A POMEGRANATE TREE!!!

[tbweb]

Did the bombers cross the border from Pakistan?

Posted by onemoretim at 06:17 AM : Jul 28, 2008
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No, they came from Czechoslovakia.

Posted by nextGenMan at 06:29 AM : Jul 28, 2008,,,

McCain is using 1931 maps, so from his perspective Czechoslovakia is still there, hey, maybe McCain knows something we don''t, maybe Czechoslovakia is coming back! We`re about to be lost in the McCain time warp!

[obama441]

I probably did kill women and children in Vietnam posted by patriot12436....libs keep an eye on that coward

[antoniof123]

WHY I ask?

Posted by MyOpinion1 at 07:35 AM : Jul 28, 2008

To show the horrors of war and why it should be avoided and not allowed to be some joke. If you don''t like the pictures don''t complain help get us out of this war for lies and oil sooner rather than later.

[antoniof123]

WHY I ask?

Posted by MyOpinion1 at 07:35 AM : Jul 28, 2008

To show the horrors of war and why it should be avoided and not allowed to be some joke. If you don''t like the pictures don''t complain help get us out of this war for lies and oil sooner rather than later.

[atxchill]

Car bomb in the middle east? Why is this news? Just another day at the office for these people. When is the useless American mainstream media gonna figure out that the American people dont care about that *** anymore, especially when we have $4/gallon gas, cant sell/buy a home, food prices thru the roof, little job security, out of control debt, losing our personal liberties, etc. I hope the worthless idiots who run this stupid site/"news" station are paying attention, but I doubt it. All they care about is the money they make off of advertising. Thats why theyre worthless idiots.

[atxchill]

Nice to see these people have figured out how to censor the word ***. What a waste this site is.

[mljohns00]

I never thought I''d admit it, but I was wrong. The Surge worked. Now it''s time to leave. Bye.

[skyk-2009]

Why are we in Iraq again? When you are into the 6th year of a 6 month war and people are still killing each other there''s a pretty good bet that things are not what they should be. The Shiite''s have been killing Sunni''s and the other way around for 1500 years. Shouldn''t we be taking care of business, the business of the American People. We were attacked and we entered the Nation who''s government refused to turn over those responsible for that attack so we went into that Country to bring those people to justice. How we ended up in Iraq and near Bankruptcy is a matter of a string of lies as long as your arm.

[realpatriot1]

The surge is working but it''s still tenuous and we can''t leave yet but we''re drawing down troops right now more precipitously(5 brigades this summer vs. 1-2 per month next year)than Obama is proposing. He was wrong and we were right...HUH?

If we had done what Obama had wanted the Iraqi government would have been under more pressure to take control sooner and we would have more of our troops already out of harm''s way.

McBush opposed the original surge at the beginning of the occupation and refuses to acknowledge that he tacitly supported every strategic mistake made by the administration in the conduct of this war of choice.

[liberalme]

Which surge is this now?
Sorry I get so confused with this stuff.

Gawd if this keeps up---Bush won''t have any time to invade Iran before he gets out.

[liberalme]

No, they came from Czechoslovakia.

Posted by nextGenMan at 06:29 AM : Jul 28, 2008,,,

LOL LOL And McCain knows this for certain!

[liberalme]

When you show US stories, you don''''t see that sort of thing? Most of the time it''''s some stupid graphic of a bomb with a lit fuse or a gun graphic with police "no not cross" yellow tape superimposed over it, or at the very least, a picture of a person with their head in their hair with a pained expression. Would you have shown pictures yesterday of the church victims lying in pools of blood? Then why do I need to see this young man''''s bleeding crotch? WHY I ask?


Posted by MyOpinion1 at 07:

Because it''s real, because we never should have gone to Iraq---the blood you see is on Bush''s hands.

[smirk5]

McCain is missing the big picture. Americans are getting sick of neverending war. If things get really stable in Iraq, Americans want out. If things get super bad again in Iraq, Americans want out. McCain has painted himself into the corner of all war all the time.

[smirk5]

Rope a dope. It''s an old boxing trick. The enemy hasn''t gone anywhere. It lives and sleeps in Iraq and isn''t on the run.

[barbaraf4]

I suspect Blackwater creates these little diversions periodically. Cheney and Bush use these to justify the war. Actually, I''m surprised they haven''t taken out another landmark in the US. Fear before elections has proven to be a winning tactic in Karl Rove''s dirty campaign rulebook.

[liberalme]

I suspect Blackwater creates these little diversions periodically. Cheney and Bush use these to justify the war. Actually, I''''m surprised they haven''''t taken out another landmark in the US. Fear before elections has proven to be a winning tactic in Karl Rove''''s dirty campaign rulebook.

Posted by barbaraf4

Well right now, the Bush terrorists know we suspect they had something to do with 911--if we are attacked again prior to election we''ll know for sure they did.

[loncheneyjr]

John McCain intends to maintain the surge indefinitely. At this time we have a wall around Baghdad and we conduct nearly all official business within that wall. Everywhere else we let the Iraqi army negotiate its existence...and it is all dirty from first to last. To keep things like this, as McCain assumes will take about 300 to 400 billion a year and will require a forced draft of our young people. John McCain will have to be a little more specific about his intentions other than simply naming his intentions without any explanation as to how he will accomplish these objectives....will he draft?

[loncheneyjr]

How many more injured will John McCain cause if he decides to draft? MCCAIN INTENDS TO MAINTAIN THIS WAR AD INFINITUM, BUT THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PERSONNEL FOR THIS WAR IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN...SO IN EFFECT MCCAIN IS SAYING HE WILL DRAFT!!! HOW MANY MORE INJURED AND KILLED WILL HE CREATE...ON TOP OF THAT THIS MAN IS TALKING ABOUT STARTING MORE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH RUSSIA!!! IS THIS MAN KIDDING? I HAVE HAD A SERIOUS CHANGE OF MIND ABOUT McCAIN VERY SUDDENLY!! Senator we are pretty much tired of Bush and at this time you dont sound like bush, you sound even worse!!!!

[missingamerica]

My nomination for the most hypothetical assumption you will see on CBS today:

"Sunni religious extremists have often targeted the gatherings to foment sectarian violence..."

That must be a difficult call to make, when you have been foolish enough to invade a region of the world where the individual can be sacrificed for religious goals; a region with some neighbors who see the United States remaining in Iraq forever as an ideal outcome; a region where the earth itself yields riches that attracts some who have historically not been averse to using death and destruction as a business tool...

[liberalme]

When a Muslim woman walks into a market and detonates a suicide bomb to kill herself and everyone around her, whose fault is it?
Posted by ddhinnyc

Depends, were they doing that BEFORE the US invaded Iraq?

[timdgrim]

John McCain really supports the "Splurge" not the "Surge". The splurge is an open ended jackpot for the Military Industrial Complex to keep making billions. The Military Industrial Complex is on McCain''s side and feed him $$$$$ to keep it going, just like they did and do Dubya DumbA$$.
After all, what are a few hundred thousand sacrificed people when profits are a plenty for Warmongers Incorporated!

[missingamerica]

what is wrong with that filthy cult that encourages terrorism and murder of innocents?

Posted by ddhinnyc at 09:15 AM : Jul 28, 2008

I do not know, but perhaps people who use phrases like "filthy cult" on international comment boards help to reinforce the mullahs'' message to their youths that they are involved in a religious war to the death, and Islam''s ultimate survival is at stake?

I am sure that Islam - as daily events publicise - is no better than Christianity at restraining those among them who would sow hate against all others who do not conform to the "proper" belief system.

No doubt somewhere a mullah even now is using words like "filthy cult" to describe Christianity - or Judaism, or Buddhhism, or Shintoism, or Hinduism.

All religions have their share of hate-filled *****.

[liberalme]

makes no difference

Posted by jamesm12341 at 09:26 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Well, yes jwind11 it does---this was not going on in Iraq before Bushs'' invasion.

[beehive21-2009]

Time to outlaw that stupid dress code its only used to carry explosives,they believe we are stupid ,and will continue to let them dress in a bomb hiding outfit,ban the robs,the women will be glad you did.

[missingamerica]

Time to outlaw that stupid dress code its only used to carry explosives,they believe we are stupid ,and will continue to let them dress in a bomb hiding outfit,ban the robs,the women will be glad you did.

Posted by beehive21 at 09:28 AM : Jul 28, 2008

"..the women will be glad you did."?

lollll...kind of like "the Iraqis will treat us as liberators", and all will be flowers, milk, and honey?

Wow...sometimes my naive fellow Americans, with their provincial outlooks and their bigoted arrogance, embarrass me....

[whitemale08]

The SURGE IS A FAILURE!!!!!!!

When oh when are you Republicans, John McShame, and these idiotic junkyard dogs like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Fox News going to admit it.

Today you people look like CLOWNS after you celebrated all last week about the so called "success" of the Surge.

Obama''s judgement is just to powerfull for you Repubs who are too stubborn to admit that the Iraq war was a complete and utter disaster and that the Surge was a complete FAILURE.

Bush needs to step down and let Obama get us the hell out of Iraq plain and simple before it''s too late!!!

We Americans can''t take anymore of your failures!!!

[liberalme]

Time to outlaw that stupid dress code its only used to carry explosives,they believe we are stupid ,and will continue to let them dress in a bomb hiding outfit,ban the robs,the women will be glad you did.

Posted by beehive21 at 09:28 AM : Jul 28, 2008


Yeah--lets have a standard universal dress code, personally I thing the Amish could dress a little better--they all look alike!

Who cares if they have been dressing like they are--for generations.

I''m for it---Universal Dress Code--that should keep the senate busy til November.

[liberalme]

um, yes it was....your lame desire to blame Bush for everything in your life has clouded your memory.

Posted by jamesm12341 at 09:29 AM : Jul 28, 2008

My life is fine--what Bush has done to the entire world disgusts me--not only will this country be "better off" once Bush is out---they world just may be a better place---what wonderful contributions have you made to society jwing11?

[missingamerica]

We Americans can''t take anymore of your failures!!!

Posted by whitemale08 at 09:33 AM : Jul 28, 2008

The Republicans'' primary problem is arrogance.

Having succeeded in smashing organized labor in the United States through the simple method of offshoring all of the jobs, they now live in a world where their word is law because they have the people who work for them subjugated through economic dependency.

They took that "You are fired!" arrogance and tried to translate it upon the international stage at the point of a gun...

They constantly fail to grasp a simple reality: Just because their sole motive is the accumulation of more money and the very weight of that money allows them to control America and Americans does not mean that all of the peoples of the world are as equally as bound by money.

lolllll...even as that attitude burns us in the Middle East, we ignore the growing strength of China and its acts of political suppression - somehow believing that they will not go "to far" as if China too were ultimately to be constrained by "the golden handcuffs"....

[liberalme]

folks, liberalme thinks that suicide bombings didnt happen before Bush was president.

Posted by jamesm12341 at 09:40 AM

Come on now jwind11 I know you love the attention---but I don''t feel like putting up with your stupidity today---the topic of the story is sucide bombing in IRAQ--ok?

[whitemale08]

lolllll...even as that attitude burns us in the Middle East, we ignore the growing strength of China and its acts of political suppression - somehow believing that they will not go "to far" as if China too were ultimately to be constrained by "the golden handcuffs"....


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Posted by ibsteve2u at 09:40 AM : Jul 28, 2008--

What amazes me even more is that these junkyard dogs like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh along with Fox Noise, will use the "over the top" rhetoric that boxes themselves within a cocoon of failure.

It''s always "Pride before a Crash" that these so called Christian Republicans should know about but yet they are bent on crashing themselves in embarrassment because they are too pridefull and arrogant to admit that they are failures!

[missingamerica]

Why is every terrorist today a Muslim?

Posted by ddhinnyc at 09:51 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Sure wish you knew - just ONCE - what you were talking about, ddhinnyc...

See http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm

[missingamerica]

Why is every terrorist today a Muslim?

Posted by ddhinnyc at 09:51 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Sure wish you knew - just ONCE - what you were talking about, ddhinnyc...

See http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm

Posted by ibsteve2u at 09:54 AM : Jul 28, 2008

lollll...oh, waittttttt...I remember last week you said you had recently been to Israel, and you also mentioned how many people of Jewish origin that you personally knew in New York City who [blah hate blah hate]...

You have a RELIGIOUS motive for targeting the Islamic faith with your hate - a motive based upon your hawkish pro-Israel attitudes, do you not?

[missingamerica]

Questions for Democrats: In the last 10 years, how many terrorist attacks have been committed by Muslims? How many have been committed by non-Muslims?

(Watch this. Their heads will be SPINNING LIKE A TOP with this one trying to figure out what to say.)

Posted by ddhinnyc at 10:01 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Oh, shoot...I am an Independent, or else I would refer you (again) to http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm...

But there is no reason to confuse the public and perhaps sidetrack them from your ultimate goal of genocide against all who practices Islam, is there, ddinnyc?

lollll...the shades of Hitler arise in those you would least expect it from...

[liberalme]

You have a RELIGIOUS motive for targeting the Islamic faith with your hate - a motive based upon your hawkish pro-Israel attitudes, do you not?

Posted by ibsteve2u at 09:57 AM :

Awww is dhinnyc really Joe LIEberman--the US Republican representative for Israel?

[liberalme]

she is not the sharpest knife in drawer folks.

Posted by jamesm12341 at 10:05 AM : Jul 28, 2008

Ya like that one huh jwind11? Not the sharpest knife in the drawer?

Well----you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic---

more stupidity.

[missingamerica]

You have a RELIGIOUS motive for targeting the Islamic faith with your hate - a motive based upon your hawkish pro-Israel attitudes, do you not?

Posted by ibsteve2u at 09:57 AM :

Awww is dhinnyc really Joe LIEberman--the US Republican representative for Israel?

Posted by liberalme at 10:08 AM : Jul 28, 2008

lollll...nawww, I doubt it. Lieberman is strictly a puppet - you can see it in his eyes.

I dislike those who attempt to spread hate in general, and those who do it with lies and distortions in particular.

Lieberman, as yet, is fairly careful to stay this side of that line, as it poses a huge risk to "electability".

For instance, could you see someone who preaches hate like "ddinnyc" being elected?

[concorde5]

I didn''t know Timothy McVeigh was a muslim!

[hotpaulie]

Surprise?! The "surge" appeared to work for a couple weeks and the Republicans start beating their chests in "victory." This country is a lost cause. Thank you Mr. President.

[concorde5]

I didn''t know Ted Kaczynski was a muslim!