Iowans Attempt To Arrest Karl Rove

Four Charged By Police After Trying Citizen's Arrest Of Ex-White House Aide For Election Fraud, Conspiracy

(AP)  Des Moines police arrested four people Friday who attempted a citizen's arrest of former White House adviser Karl Rove.

Rove was in Des Moines to speak at a fundraiser.

A news release says a retired minister and three members of the Des Moines Catholic Workers community were cited for trespassing and released.

The four accused Rove of election fraud and conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud the United States in the time before the Iraq war.

The arrest complaint also says they accused Rove of treason, sedition and subversive activities for fraudulent acts leading to the deaths of 300,000 Iraqi civilians and 4,000 U.S. Military personnel.

Kirk Brown and Mona Shaw, two of the four arrested Friday, attempted a similar arrest last March when Rove spoke at the University of Iowa.

[rosieod4prez]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


Stupid, far left, idiots. Hope they get their heads straight in jail. Who''s your DADDY now, putz!

[grahampoor]

Rove has refused a supean and is in comtempt of Congress. Any US Citizen would be a jail for the same acs.
Will we prove we are a nation of laws and not men?
God Bless the USA and God Bless you.

[grahampoor]

Rove Ignores Subpoena, Refuses To Testify and therfore is in comtempt of Congress. Any US Citizen would be a jail for the same acts.

Will we prove we are a nation of laws and not men?

God Bless the USA and God Bless you.

[edintex]

Do you really believed the Iraqi people are safer and better off now? If you think that our next battle is invading Cuba to give freedom to them. Or is it really about the oil?
Posted by davidjones11 at 04:34 PM : Jul 27, 2008

No, I believe the Iraqi people would be WAY better off with Saddam Hussain still in power. Gosh I bet they really miss him. Did you see the long line of people praying at his grave every day?
Now the Iraqis have to figure out how to stop that long line of U.S. flagged tankers from stealing all of their oil and taking it to the U.S. Those Americans should not be bemefiting from their stolen oil. Just LOOK at how cheap their gasoline is now.

Yeaahhh...Riiiight...

[rosieod4prez]

davidjones11 - is this your way of saying:

You got my brother, but you didn''t get me!

[deacon20081]

What goes around comes around...Rove and the rest will face War Crimes Trials. Should be interesting.

[ki8911]

To zgomer: Then please tell us what you would do fix the Iraq, plus various other problems that is plaguing this country. Enlighten us.

[pvperson]

"Did you see the long line of people praying at his grave every day?"

If they lined up like that some american soldier would machine gun them. Don''t you think?

[liberalme]

As long as any of the Bush criminals are walking freely--there will be more instances like this.

I commend the people in Iowa who attempted this citizens arrest--whatever the government refuses to handle--the people must.

[gotagrip]

Sounds like the well regulated militia is starting to do its job. Hopefully next time its a thousand instead of four!!

[vranger]

You people who would rather have seen Sadam Hussein continue to kill his fellow Iraqi''s by the tens of thousands make me sick. I''m sure if you been alive during WWII you''d have accused Roosevelt and his staff of "war crimes" for stopping Hitler and winning that war. You''d have wanted to arrest Truman for dropping the A bomb and saving countless lives, both American and Japanese, to finish the conflict in the Pacific Theatre. Sadly, there is no chance you will ever have a clue about anything, but here''s to hoping you fail in your attempts to poison other minds with your naive, venomous lies.

[danstoned]

These four Iowans are heros and should be given the medal of honor for performance of the utmost patriotism, putting country before party, which you will never see a republicon fascist do.

[donbl1]

What idiots.

They let their emotions overload their a****** and they get arrested.

Some people think that only their opinions are important.

[generey]

What or whom was the human waste fundraising for?

[liberalme]

You people who would rather have seen Sadam Hussein continue to kill his fellow Iraqi''''s by the tens of thousands make me sick. I''''m sure if you been alive during WWII you''''d have accused Roosevelt and his staff of "war crimes" for stopping Hitler and winning that war. You''''d have wanted to arrest Truman for dropping the A bomb and saving countless lives, both American and Japanese, to finish the conflict in the Pacific Theatre. Sadly, there is no chance you will ever have a clue about anything, but here''''s to hoping you fail in your attempts to poison other minds with your naive, venomous lies.

Posted by vranger at 05:10 PM : Jul 27, 2008

Do you remember 911????
We were attacked by terrorists from Saudi Arabia---Not Iraq.
Bin Laden was thought to be the mastermind---we knew he was in Afganistan.
Iraq had NO weapons, there were no terrorists or AlQueda in Iraq--none!

Bush sent more troops into Iraq than Afganistan--why?

This whole thinng so solely about 911--We were GOING TO CATCH THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR 911---Not invade Iraq---NOT to declare democracy in Iraq--we were SUPPOSED to get Bin Laden!!!

Where is he now? Anyone know?? Pakistan? Why is it, everytime our troops have Bin Laden in their sites-they are told by Washington to "back off"?

Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911--Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911--Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911.

911 Was a convenient diversion for Bush to "get" the oil in Iraq---NOT BIn Laden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dougmsbbs]

"Without the Constitution, what are we?

We would be exactly what we are now. Judges making laws up to fit the liberal idea of right and wrong, 80% of what the federals do now is against the constitution, a nanny state where you know you can make bad decisions because someone looking for your vote will hand you whatever you ask for.
Why stop there? How about 100% taxation? A complete socialist state? What, YOU don''t want to pay it, so someone else should and hand it to you? Sure. that will work...
It''s not about parties, it''s about a bunch of babies who want everything handed to them, so they don''t have to work, or even get an education. Both sides will be happy to buy your vote, so don''t tell me about that bunch of ***. They are all corrupt and on an ego trip, Americans are lazy, and it''s always soneone else fault. Who needs a constitution for that?

[liberalme]

We would be exactly what we are now. Judges making laws up to fit the liberal idea of right and wrong, 80% of what the federals do now is against the constitution, a nanny state where you know you can make bad decisions because someone looking for your vote will hand you whatever you ask for.
Why stop there? How about 100% taxation? A complete socialist state? What, YOU don''''t want to pay it, so someone else should and hand it to you? Sure. that will work...
It''''s not about parties, it''''s about a bunch of babies who want everything handed to them, so they don''''t have to work, or even get an education. Both sides will be happy to buy your vote, so don''''t tell me about that bunch of ***. They are all corrupt and on an ego trip, Americans are lazy, and it''''s always soneone else fault. Who needs a constitution for that?

Posted by dougmsbbs at 05:24 PM : Jul 27, 2008

Sorry--it isn''t the liberals who said the Constitution was just a #$%# piece of paper.
If the aqverage citizen had broken the laws the Bush tribals have---they would have thrown un in jail and thrown away the key.

Congress being just as complicit in constantly giving Bush a blank check!

We need to get all these crimnals out--some have been in congress way too long---They shold have no more say on how to run this country--we need new people from the top down!
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[thefactsonly]

In resonse to the following nonsense posted by dougmsbbs (at 5:24 p.m. today): "Judges making laws up to fit the liberal idea of right and wrong, 80% of what the federals do now is against the constitution".

The federal judiciary -- which is much more than the Supreme Court -- is dominated by judges who were appointed by Republican presidents.

Going by years served, starting with Reagan, we''ve had GOP presidents 20 of the past 28 years. That alone backs up what I''m saying.

But don''t take my word for it -- look it up, fool.

After all, these matters are not a question of who yells the loudest (as in your heroes on hate radio), distorts half-truths and makes it seem there is no real truth, only personalities.

BTW: This is the first time I''ve posted on a national news site. Some falsehoods cannot be allowed to stand.

[rob416]

While a little over the top, the actions of the four private citizens are about the frustration people are feeling about the way the Bush Administration has performed. Certainly Karl Rove played a major role in forming polices for President Bush.

I think Bush and Cheney should be charged with crimes against the American people and be led out of The White House in handcuffs. Unfortunately that is not going to happen.

[dougmsbbs]

"Whenever the government refuses to address the people''''s grievances, the people have the right to redress them themselves. /or something like that/declaration of independence"

Absolutly! For years I have argued that we need to convene a constitutional convention and see if the people can take back control. I have changed my mind. The powers in Washington already have the power to force the agenda that would be discussed. In other words, they could, legally, dump the constitution completly.

For the other subject: Judges have for thirty years been making laws instead of interpeting them. That is one reason California has the record for the most over turned descions. Liberal judges.
To be fair, Bush and company have not done the peoples work. They still aren''t, and never will. They have worked for themselfs, and only themselfs.
I take offense not at a party. I direct it at any of the self serving ''public servants'' that bring us to such a state as we now have. The Democrats did it. The Republicans did it. Believe it or not, my partisan friends, both statements are true.
Imagine what would happen if all of us got together and found a way we can all live with to actually SOLVE some problems instead of just throwing things at each other? Think about. Hate''s not getting anyone anywhere...

[kithara1]

Four patriots in the war on terror.

[antoniof123]

You people who would rather have seen Sadam Hussein continue to kill his fellow Iraqi''''''''s

Posted by vranger at 05:10 PM : Jul 27, 2008

Neo con give it a rest I have been trying to get you clowns to listen we do not want a blood bath but it is coming and not much you can do about now.

[kithara1]

Four patriots in the war on terror.

[ubrew12]

I''m glad to see this kind of dedicated citizen action. However, sometimes this encourages darker elements in society who would attempt to dispense justice themselves: exactly the kind of thing the Bush admin is guilty of. I would not like to see a general aura of lawlessness take over the left, just as they are about to triumph at the voting booth, and effect REAL reform of the system there. Unilateral action might encourage a backlash from the public at large, making a substantive move in governance much more difficult and perhaps impossible in the near term. We''ve suffered too long, too hard to let things slip out of control now.

Get radical AFTER Obama is president, make real moves to uncover the Bush misdeeds at that time.

[caldwellptr]

Unending War ..........

[ubrew12]

dougmsbbs said: "Americans are lazy, and it''s always soneone else fault. "

Your comment above strikes at the heart of unAmericanism from the right. If you don''t like America: why don''t you leave? As for me, I''ll continue working alongside the LONGEST WORK WEEK in the developed world and the SHORTEST PAID VACATION TIME, for the LOWEST MINIMUM WAGE. Americans will always be ''lazy'' to people like you; its how people like you and Rush Limbaugh feed on the rest of us.

[ioweign]

In resonse to the following nonsense posted by dougmsbbs (at 5:24 p.m. today): "Judges making laws up to fit the liberal idea of right and wrong, 80% of what the federals do now is against the constitution".

The federal judiciary -- which is much more than the Supreme Court -- is dominated by judges who were appointed by Republican presidents.

Going by years served, starting with Reagan, we''''ve had GOP presidents 20 of the past 28 years. That alone backs up what I''''m saying.

But don''''t take my word for it -- look it up, fool.

After all, these matters are not a question of who yells the loudest (as in your heroes on hate radio), distorts half-truths and makes it seem there is no real truth, only personalities.

BTW: This is the first time I''''ve posted on a national news site. Some falsehoods cannot be allowed to stand.


Posted by TheFactsOnly at 05:41 PM : Jul 27, 2008

Very good post...

[kithara1]

Four patriots in the war on terror.

[vastr-wcon]

.
For anybody wondering why, day after day, the citizens of American are outraged, disgusted and embarrassed by the actions of the CheneyBush government, here''s a key reason: Nancy "Impeachment-is-off-the-table" Pelosi, who unilaterally granted these criminals immunity from prosecution for their high crimes and misdemeanors.

This utterly incompetent political hack will go down in history as the worst Speaker of the House ever. She will live in infamy for openly declaring to the most criminal president and vice president ever that "You can do whatever you want, we in Congress won''t do our constitutional duty and stop your high crimes and misdemeanors. H*ll, we won''t even bother to open a serious impeachment investigation, and we''ll basically ignore Kucinich''s Articles of Impeachment for Cheney and his Articles of Impeachment for Dumbya. So go ahead, destroy the Constitution, abuse the Bill of Rights and make a mockery of the American democracy. We''ll look the other way."

Any rational person will hope and pray and do all they can to ensure that Cindy Sheehan defeats Pelosi in the next election.

/

[stn_sage]

Let this be a warning to Heir Karl Rove and others that in the days ahead they need to think about WHERE they are going to travel within the USA!

Friday it was four people in Iowa, next week maybe a dozen in Cincinnati, after that maybe two dozen in St. Louis! And if these groups start arming themselves as well, and are willing to subdue police who interfere with official business when arresting Rove, then he won''t get away so easily!

And some of those groups may just take a rope along with them to implement a sentence imposed by a citizens'' court who held trial in abstencia against Rove. I''d be careful if I were him!

Congratulations,Iowans. It was a nice try! You did in that one attempt more than our government and judicial systems whose members KNOW Rove is guilty! Well done!

[ubrew12]

dmw1167 said: "When we went to war in Iraq almost every Senator and Representative approved it, otherwise he could not done it. "

1. Congress approved under duress. Elections were a month away and 9-11 had the public in a mob-mood. Those few who voted their conscience got run out of office (and almost lynched). You know this, yet instead of asking: "who would schedule a WAR vote before a general election?" (Answer: someone for whom making political points was literally more important than the American lives hanging on the votes outcome). I can forgive many a (Republican as well as Dem) congressman for voting to save his/her career. I can''t forgive someone who''d casually throw that many American lives away to score a few petty political points (but, then, I can''t forgive Cheney/Rove anyway).

2. Congress made it clear that their approval was contingent on Bush''s promise to pursue the war only as a last resort. Bush broke that promise, and spent the ensuing 6 months manufacturing whatever evidence and threatening whatever former ally counciled caution. Its clear to most Americans, if not you, who caused the Iraq War. It wasn''t Congress.

[ioweign]

Citizen''s arrest of "Piglet" ! And they didn''t even have to use FISA...

They should have taken him to the kosher meatpacking and processing plant in Postville...

[stn_sage]

VastR-WCon:

(Comments that Pelosi in incompetent)
Posted by VastR-WCon at 06:57 PM : Jul 27, 2008
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Excellent post! I and many others agree.

[kesac4650]

Those silly twits should read the Fifth Amendment to our Constitution.

[stn_sage]

IOWEIGN:

They should have taken him to the kosher meatpacking and processing plant in Postville...

Posted by IOWEIGN at 07:02 PM : Jul 27, 2008
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True. Is that plant up and running? If not, they probably already removed the dangerous cutting and
ripping implements and tools! ;)

[liberalme]

Funding by a Democratic Congress LOL LOL

Posted by dmw1167

Lest we forget==the congress is about even in number---and don''t forget LIEberman now votes with the Repukes.

[cbsfan73]

They must have been trying to arrest him on a "911"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLugovHiKYE

Episode 106 - Citizen''s Arrest

[stn_sage]

dmw1167:
Posted by dmw1167 at 07:14 PM : Jul 27, 2008
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Your tone is childish at best and causes people to loathe your pathetic attempt at discussion. You''re
certainly NOT taken seriously by most posters!

Mocking ubrew12 who''s merely pointing out the facts doesn''t make what you say credible! The GOP-controlled congress rushed to give Bush the authorization, they did so on his promise that war would be the LAST resort and not the first; he LIED, after getting the authorization, he launched HIS war!

Now those are the facts! You may not like them, but that''s how it is! Your precious fuhrer rushed to war.
Getting mad at ubrew12 or anyone else who points out the facts, isn''t going to change them! So, grow up!

[martin9p2]

I think the courageous citizens accomplished one thing -- to convince Karl Rove that he is not an invincible power broker.

[stn_sage]

andrew_693:

Posted by andrew_693 at 07:21 PM : Jul 27, 2008
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You raise an interesting point, Andrew!
One, that I''ve wondered about myself.

There was a time when if someone outed an intelligence
agent, even if they were not well liked by their fellow agents, that the group as a whole would respond to the perpetrators!

It''s sad isn''t it?! The CIA doesn''t have the guts to get rid of a couple of people who took one of their agents out! They''ve lost their edge!

I imagine when Bush came in many of the best quit and the Bush administration replaced them with political hacks instead of agents who put country and honor first! The CIA is like most of the federal government now, it needs a general ''house-sweeping''!

[randynason]

These four patriots should be given a medal for trying to do what Congress has been unable to do. Bravo and let''s do it again and again until it is an end, unto itself. Rove should be behind bars.

[thefactsonly]

Thanks to IOWEIGN for your kind words about my earlier post on the current federal judiciary being dominated numerically by appointments of GOP presidents over the last 28 years.


(My post was in response to a completely distorted post on the federal bench.)

After all, when opinion in presented as fact here and in far too many other media, aren''t my earlier words the crux of the matter?

"After all, these matters are not a question of who yells the loudest (as in your heroes on hate radio), distorts half-truths and makes it seem there is no real truth, only personalities."

[godseyesore-2009]

Keep trying!! These nazi tyrants must pay.

[babooph]

The police NEVER worked for the people-ONLY for the system -what else is new??Union workers have been imprisoned ,shot ,villified-NEVER HAS An OWNER BEEN !!!

[jw218389]

Was ist das??

Arrest Herr Rove??

He''s just being himself: a rascist, xenophobic, neo-con nutball that thinks the Constitution is toilet paper...

Herr Rove is much more a fan of Mein Kampf!!!

[liberalme]

Oh yes, the news carried it as well. With the liberal media it was probably a 30 second sound bite on CNN, a third page article in the Times, and CBS probably buried it, but I''''m sure there''''s a record out there somewhere.

Posted by clgl_fubar at 08:15 P

Does that change the fact she was outed by a Bush criminal?

[ioweign]

It is about 245 miles from Des Moines to St. Paul and the Republican Convention. This just may turn out to be a fun Labor Day.

Have to warn law enforcement not to turn their backs on these Republicans, look what they did to Plame...

[toolmangler-2009]

Posted by babooph at 08:14 PM : Jul 27, 2008



Well said;

[kithara1]

Four patriots in the war on terror.

[kithara1]

Four patriots in the war on terror.