Jumbo Jet Lands Fast With Hole In Fuselage

Flight To Australia From Hong Kong Makes Emergency Landing In Manila, 350 Passengers Safe

(CBS/AP)  The 346 passengers were cruising at 29,000 feet Friday when an explosive bang shook the Qantas jumbo jet. The plane descended rapidly. Oxygen masks dropped from the ceiling as debris flew through the cabin from a hole that had suddenly appeared in the floor.

It wasn't until they were safely on the ground after an emergency landing that they realized how lucky they had been: A hole the size of a small car had been ripped into the Boeing 747-400's metal skin and penetrated the fuselage.

The eerie scene aboard Flight QF 30, captured on a passenger's cell phone video-camera, showed a tense quiet punctuated only by a baby's cries as passengers sat with oxygen masks on their faces. The jerky footage showed a woman holding tightly to the seat in front of her as rapidly approaching land appeared through a window. Loud applause and relieved laughter went up as the plane touched down.

There were no injuries and only a few cases of nausea, airline officials said. An official of the U.S. Transportation Security Administration said initial reports indicated no link to terrorism.

Investigators appeared to be focusing on a structural problem.

"From the pictures that we've seen out of Manila during the course of the day, it would seem that one of the panels to the outer skin of the aircraft has literally come away from the rest of the fuselage," Chris Yates, an aviation expert at Jane's Aviation, told The Associated Press.

"As a consequence of this, the aircraft experienced rapid decompression," he said.

While it is not uncommon for metal panels to be lost from aircraft in flight, he said: "It's relatively rare that when a bit falls off the airplane it causes the sort of instance that we saw in relation to Qantas. In other words that it causes the aircraft cabin to depressurize."

Yates said investigators will examine closely the fracture points that showed up on the skin of the aircraft to determine whether metal fatigue or manufacturing defect caused the panel to peel away.

David Learmount, operations and safety editor of Flight International magazine and an expert on aviation, told CBSNews.com after seeing photos of the Qantas aircraft that the actual hole in the fuselage was much smaller - about one yard across.

Learmount said there were two visible layers of damage to the 747 - a missing exterior layer of light-weight "filleting," which serves only to blend the shape of the fuselage with the base of the wing for aerodynamics, and the smaller area of damage, the hole, in the pressurized fuselage.

"Most of what's missing doesn’t really matter very much," said Learmount, adding that numerous passenger jets have landed safely with far more serious structural damage.

He said the most likely root of the incident was internal damage to the freight bay, caused by the inadvertent action of handlers or by corrosion from a leak that had gone unnoticed.

Learmount indicated to CBSNews.com that there was no evidence to suggest any explosion had occurred inside the plane's cargo hold, but there was "no way I'd rule that out."

Aviation expert Peter Goelz says the passengers are just lucky the tear happened exactly where it did.

"It's a pretty robust area of the plane where the wing connects in through the center wing tank and is really, probably one of the strongest areas of the aircraft," Goelz told CBS News correspondent Nancy Cordes.

Rigorous inspection for metal fatigue and corrosion have been required ever since an Aloha Airlines accident 20 years ago where saltwater corrosion caused the cockpit door and part of the roof to rip off the Boeing 737, killing one and injuring 65, reports Cordes.

The passengers, on a flight from London to Melbourne, had just been served a meal after a stopover in Hong Kong when they described hearing a loud bang, then their ears popping as air rushed out the hole. The pilots put the plane into a quick descent to 10,000 feet, where the atmosphere is still thin but breathable.

The Manila airport authority, quoting pilot John Francis Bartels, said the plane suffered an "explosive decompression."

"One hour into the flight there was a big bang, then the plane started going down," passenger Marina Scaffidi, 39, from Melbourne, told The Associated Press by phone from the airport. "There was wind swirling around the plane and some condensation."

She said a hole extended from the cargo hold into the passenger cabin.

After the pilots' initial rapid descent, "the plane kept going down, not too fast, but it was descending," Scaffidi said, adding the staff informed passengers they were diverting to Manila. TV screens on the backs of seats allowed them to track their route to the Philippine capital.

"No one was very hysterical," she said.

June Kane of Melbourne agreed, telling Australia's ABC radio: "It was absolutely terrifying, but I have to say everyone was very calm."

Amazingly calm, in fact.

Video footage showed people looking almost as if nothing was wrong as they glanced from side to side, their nearly untouched meals still in front of them. The cabin crew continued to work, smiling as they walked down the aisles to reassure nervous passengers.

After the plane touched down safely amid applause, one of the pilots could be heard saying over the intercom: "Fire vehicles and emergency vehicles are going to take a look at us."

What they found was a stunning sight. A 9-foot-wide hole gaped at the joint where the front of the right wing attaches to the plane. Luggage from the cargo hold strained against the webbing used to keep it from shifting during a flight.

A curved line of rivets was still visible on the plane's body at the front edge where the missing sheet once was; a straight line of rivets was along the other.

Boeing spokeswoman Liz Verdier said it was too soon to determine what caused the hole, but the company was providing technical assistance as part of an investigation led by the National Transportation Safety Board.

"We are dispatching four personnel from Boeing, an investigator and three engineers," who were leaving immediately, she said.

The probe into the 17-year-old aircraft was likely to be lengthy, Verdier said, and the Boeing team expects to interview the crew and examine the structure of the plane, among other things.

Geoff Dixon, the chief executive officer of Qantas, Australia's largest airline, praised the pilots and the rest of the 19-member crew for how they handled Friday's events.

"This was a highly unusual situation and our crew responded with the professionalism that Qantas is known for," he said.

The passengers were taken to several hotels in Manila, then left just before midnight on another plane to Melbourne.

Qantas boasts a strong safety record and has never lost a jet to an accident, although there were crashes of smaller planes, the last in 1951. Since then, there have been no accident-related deaths on any Qantas jets.

However, the airline has had a few scares in recent years.

In February 2008, a Qantas 717 with 84 passengers on board sustained substantial damage in a heavy landing in Darwin, Australia. And the year before, Qantas acknowledged that an unlicensed mechanical engineer had conducted safety checks on more than 1,000 international flights over a 12-month period at Sydney airport.

In September 1999, a Qantas Boeing 747-400 with more than 400 people on board overshot a runway in Bangkok, Thailand, during bad weather.

Union engineers - who have held several strikes this year to demand pay raises - say that safety is being compromised by low wages and overtime work.

As of December 2007, Qantas was operating 216 aircraft flying to 140 destinations in 37 countries, though in recent months it has announced it will retire some aircraft and cancel some routes - as well as cutting 1,500 jobs worldwide - due to skyrocketing fuel prices.

[amazedd]

Born again! Lucky as what. If whatever caused that explosion had been a few feet ahead the wing structure wouldn''t have supported the blast, and the hole would have been twice as large.
Benedict or not, there''s a plane full of new believers!

[heero78-2009]

lol no injuries. just vomit

[amazedd]

Comet?

[irliberal]

Posted by demslie2u at 06:24 AM

Cry more please, you big whiner.

Glad all the passengers are safe! Good job, pilots!

[irliberal]

Statistically speaking, it''s far, far more dangerous to drive your car to work.

But I''m scared to death of sharks in the ocean so I guess my opinion on this topic doesn''t count for too much.

[cfin5]

Posted by MyOpinion1 at 07:38 AM : Jul 25, 2008--- Me too!

[j_flood]

I''ll take a Boeing airframe anytime..........

[mrmazerati]

Seems to not have been intentional, at least at this point. Very glad everyone is safe and kudos to those pilots.

[mrmazerati]

Aren''t you kind of stretching it with the political tie-in? This is an air safety thing, not a political thing.

[mrmazerati]

The demslie2u comment is inappropriate. Nobody said anything political at all in their comment. Yet this person is trying very hard to tie it back to that. Seems like you''re trying to force some kind of argument. Try the political section if you want to have an argument.

[mrmazerati]

Again, no one said anything political until this demslie2u moron brought it up. Ignore him/her/it/whatever. It''s just trying to pick a fight. Idiot.

[creeper00]

I think David Learmount is grandstanding. If a Qantas spokesman is willing to acknowledge a hole two and a half or three yards wide who is Learmount to contradict that with only a photo for reference?

If anyone should be downplaying this it''s Qantas. They seem to be telling the truth. Learmount has no business analyzing the damage without actually viewing it.

[newtagagain]

Did y''all know that QANTAS is the only major airline to never have had a crash! This incident came awful close.

BTW demslie is the BIGGEST isdiot on the poltical boards - I guess it got laughed off one too many times and is now trying to raise hackles over here. Best to ignore it.

[cessna172_]

The pilot and co-pilot did a wonderful job bringing everyone safely down, this was definitley a haines moment !
This is why we have training and procedures .

[nolalou]

ts all George Bush''''s Fault. Its another Republican Conspriacy, Right Democrats?
Posted by demslie2u

I don''t blame Bush for everything! Maybe it was one of those Iraqi ''weapons of mass destruction'' that went off course and hit the Quantas jet!

[iuphockey12]

NO THEIR PROBABLY MORE HAPPY IT WASNT OBAMA B/C HE WOULD HAVE FOUND A BUILDING TO FLY IT INTO

[perceptions5]

Over 70% of Americans want this Do Nothing Democrat Congress to lift the ban on offshore drilling, but they won''t.

And they won''t because they are being PAID by the environmental lobby not to.

My fellow Americans we cannot HOPE for lower energy prices.

We have to VOTE for lower energy prices.

Vote REPUBLICAN on November 4th and lets send these Do Nothing Democrats home for looking after the interests of their special interest group, Enviro''s instead of looking after the interests of the American people.

Enough is Enough with the Democrats and their blocking of "domestic" development and production of OUR natural resources.

This Party, the Democrats are 100% responsible for the suffering of millions of Americans.

.............CROOKS!

[newsjunky5]

"or by corrosion from a leak that had gone unnoticed."
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Even in something as complicated as a 747, ya gotta check the bilge once in a while.

As for the size of the hole, check out the 3rd photo, which has 2 men standing next to it.

[iuphockey12]

LOL I LIKE HOW NO MATTER WHAT IS IN THE NEWS PEOPLE RELATE IT BACK TO THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!! HAHA THATS GREAT!

[xmanborg]

I was on a Delta 737-800 from Kansas City to Atlanta. The plane was on approach to land in Atlanta and our plane crossed the WAKE of another jet in front of us. We must have dropped 50 feet and then it was like hitting a cement floor. It was the worst turbulance I have ever felt on a plane. It knocked open some of the baggage compartments above and stuff fell on some people. The drop was so sudden and severe if you would have not had your seat on you would have been hurt. One of the flight attendants was tossed in the air and hit the floor but she was ok.

[bobpcoll--2008]

The passengers will be given hotel accommodation while the aircraft is being repaired, said Alfonso Cusi, the airport''s general manager.

Repaired???? Can you, literally, say: " put me on a slow boat to Cjina"?

[donevis-2009]

I''ll bet the atheist on that flight remembered how to pray. Hope there were enough flight sickness bags to go around after the new practice of lightening the plane weight. :-)

[donevis-2009]

This Party, the Democrats are 100% responsible for the suffering of millions of Americans.
.............CROOKS!

Posted by perceptions5 at 09:48 AM : Jul 25, 2008

My oh My, won''t you be in for a rude awaking in November. That is if the Republicans don''t have Dibold steal the elections again. Ever notice how the right wingers start name calling when they have nothing else intelligent to add? "God Speed USA"

[sistatee-2009]

"That part of the plane wasn''t necessary anyway. We just put it there to add to the cost."

[talkingham]

Did you hear McCain had to cancel his photo-op at an offshore drilling site this week because they had an oil spill? It''s true, and they do spill oil.

[libsluv2spit]

the neocons have to breathe, and share the same polluted air and water the libs live in too!


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Posted by zoe2006 at 11:11 AM : Jul 25, 2008
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and goes that a liberal ALSO has to do his fair share in keeping the planet green..you cannot simply whine about it then drive away on an SUV just like al gore...

[libsluv2spit]

musta been one hell of a ride...350 people vomited...
and all that garbage just ''floating'' around while people bang around each other..NICE

[gramto7]

You guys are GREAT!

A hunk a metal falls off of an airplane, and you waste no time at all getting to Bush bashing and drilling for oil Posted by DaVicar2 at 11:25 AM : Jul 25, 2008

If you will look back, you will find that a Rrepublican started the argument about oil!

[zorar-2009]

Ya right "He said the most likely root of the incident was internal damage to the freight bay, caused by the inadvertent action of handlers or by corrosion from a leak that had gone unnoticed."

Can anybody spell "ACME BOMB" just ask "Wiley Cuyote"!

[zorar-2009]

You guys are GREAT!

A hunk a metal falls off of an airplane, and you waste no time at all getting to Bush bashing and drilling for oil!


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Posted by DaVicar2 at 11:25 AM : Jul 25, 2008

Since Bush has been in office Terroism has jumped 780%
who else are you going to blame "Drunk Wallstreet"

[zorar-2009]

Ya right "He said the most likely root of the incident was internal damage to the freight bay, caused by the inadvertent action of handlers or by corrosion from a leak that had gone unnoticed."

Can anybody spell "ACME BOMB" just ask "Wiley Coyote"!

[nothappyatall]

Flying is 100 times safer than driving ----------------------------------------
------- Posted by demslie2u

EXCEPT, you are at the mercy of someone else''s mechanical checks and someone else''s health and mental status who is flying the thing.
Once strapped in you are there for the duration, and if the pilot decides he is suiciding that day, you and your fellow suckers are going down with him!

If your engine machanic had a bad day and didn''t tighten something up right and the engline blows, you are gone too.

[mrlib]

This is a obvious and blatant failure of the Bush administration!

[libsluv2spit]

If you will look back, you will find that a Rrepublican started the argument about oil!


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Posted by gramto11 at 12:29 PM : Jul 25, 2008
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and if you would look now..its the liberals who are still driving thier SUVs to thier proverbial ''no war for oil'' protest..

[libh8er]

Hey, for all you bedwetting libs who feel that this is an appropriate forum to bring up Bush and politics, how about that loverboy Edwards, huh??? LOL
Nailed at 2:30 in the morning with his ''ho''.....cheating on his wife with cancer.

Guess that''s a resume enhancer for democrats, though. Way to go, Johnny......didn''t know you liked girls! :)

[libh8er]

I really, REALLY hope Ubama chooses Edwards as his VP (as some were requesting last week in these forums.) Democrats sure know how to pick winners. LOL

What''s congress'' approval rating these days.....9%???? Lowest in American history, you say? Way to go Nancy & Reid.

[donnie1044]

I never understood why they use rivets anyway. Makes the plane look ugly.

[dinkydog1]

===And McVet and SgtRDS and BrianBWB were sucked out at 20,000 feet. And we all lived happily every after.
Posted by michaelt302 at 12:48 PM : Jul 25, 2008

oh if that were true!!! LOL===
Posted by jamesm12341

You guys wish for death for people who simply disagree with you politically? Sad.



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Posted by rafterman1 at 02:10 PM : Jul 25, 2008

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This is halarious, thier posting thier drivel on a story about airplanes so McVet and BrianBWB won''t give them another mental thrashing. What a hoot!

[vnveteran72]

More of the great benefits to America under Criminal Corporate Control of our Nation.....


"Now you guys remember, we don''t need to look at those joints and rivets THAT hard"....."These Inspections are just Leftist, Lib, Hippy, Nonsense that have no real purpose except to harrass Honest Companies trying to make a buck"......."It''ll be fine, Trust me".....

[donnie1042]

Airbus should make a rivetless plane. Put Boeing under.

[txgrouch2006]

I wonder how many suitcases got sucked out of the hole? Was anybody''s baggage missing?

[toolmangler-2009]

never understood why they use rivets anyway. Makes the plane look ugly.
Posted by donnie1044 at 02:52 PM : Jul 25, 2008



The use of rivets allows the skin of the plane to flex without tearing, Temperature changes inside the plane are different that those outside and the skeleton of the plane shrinks or expands at a different speed than the skin, I prefer rivets as opposed to welding because I don''t like to have pieces of the plane cracking and falling off because they cant slide when heated or cooled.

[rushlimpdrug]

"No one was very hysterical," she said

So some were hysterical?

What degree of hysterical were they?

[rushlimpdrug]

"No one was very hysterical," she said

So some were hysterical?

What degree of hysterical were they?

[libsluv2spit]

You guys wish for death for people who simply disagree with you politically? Sad.



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Posted by rafterman1 at 02:10 PM : Jul 25, 2008

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oh I am sure you know these guys..(McVet and SgtRDS and BrianBWB ) has more colorfull and more sinsiter ways of dealing with those who opposes them..

you should know..dont you guys sit around and watch ''oliver stone'' movies together and give each other cool ''army'' names?

[bubbabear200]

Remember folks,these 747''s are glued together not rivited as they used to be. Someone on the production line was scotch with the glue.

[toolmangler-2009]

Boeing says wrong rivets went into 27 747-400 jets
The Associated Press

Boeing has warned airlines and federal regulators that rivets reinforcing the structure of 27 of its jumbo jets must be replaced, the eighth instance of manufacturing and parts problems Boeing has faced since the start of the year.

A mechanic at Boeing''s Wichita, Kan., plant discovered that as many as 1,000 of the wrong kind of rivets had been installed on each of the 747-400s. Ten of the 27 jets have been delivered and are in service with airlines.



http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000414&slug=4015413

[toolmangler-2009]

Boeing says wrong rivets went into 27 747-400 jets
The Associated Press

Boeing has warned airlines and federal regulators that rivets reinforcing the structure of 27 of its jumbo jets must be replaced, the eighth instance of manufacturing and parts problems Boeing has faced since the start of the year.

A mechanic at Boeing''s Wichita, Kan., plant discovered that as many as 1,000 of the wrong kind of rivets had been installed on each of the 747-400s. Ten of the 27 jets have been delivered and are in service with airlines.



http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000414&slug=4015413

[toolmangler-2009]

Double posted by accident

[rosieod4prez]

Airbus WISHES it could build a plane strong enough to withstand a 9 ft depressurizing hole at 35K ft, and survive to land.