3 Teens Charged In Immigrant Beating Death

The Teens, Who Are White, Allegedly Beat Illegal Immigrant To Death In Pennsylvania

(AP)  Three white teens were charged Friday in what officials said was an epithet-filled fatal beating of an illegal Mexican immigrant in a small northeast Pennsylvania coal town.

Brandon J. Piekarsky, 16, and Colin J. Walsh, 17, were charged as adults with homicide and ethnic intimidation in the July 12 attack on Luis Ramirez.

A third teen, Derrick M. Donchak, 18, was charged with aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation and other offenses. All are from Shenandoah, where the attack occurred.

Ramirez, 25, was beaten to death after an argument with a group of youths that police said included high school football players. Authorities could not immediately say if any of the suspects were members of the team, but they confirmed that all three used ethnic slurs during the fight.

"As a result of this crime, a young man has lost his life. Many other lives have been devastated, and the borough of Shenandoah has been filled with tensions between many ethnic groups," Schuylkill County District Attorney James Goodman said.

"Now that the criminal charges have been filed, we must let this case be handled in the criminal justice system," he said.

Police said as many as six teens were involved in the fight, which ended with Ramirez in convulsions and foaming at the mouth. He died July 14 of head injuries.

Crystal Dillman, the victim's 24-year-old fiancee, who is white and grew up in Shenandoah, has said Ramirez was often called derogatory names, including "dirty Mexican," and told to return to his homeland.

"I plan on moving out of this town as fast as I can. Not because I'm scared. I just don't want to see my children have to deal with what their father dealt with," Dillman said.

Piekarsky and Walsh were being held without bail, while Donchak was held on $75,000 bail.

Lawyers for Piekarsky and Walsh said their clients were not guilty and that there was no evidence to support the homicide charges. They also said they would try to have the case removed to juvenile court.

Donchak declined comment.

[darnedsocks]

SO, WHO STARTED THE FIGHT?

[colonieny]

As horrific as this crime is, it is getting way more press than similar crimes committed by our illegals here against the rest of us.. And there is a cover up. Just try to find the names of the 53 Whites and Asians who were dragged from cars in 1991 LA riots. Can''t on the LA Times Search, as the TOTAL RIOT has been erased . No memorial. No nothining.
Just a few months ago illegals shot up a whole family killing father and two sons, for no reason.
In LA a family got on the "wrong street" and they were shot up , killing a 4 year old girl.
This crime is bad. But, hey let''s get some balance even if the story does not fit the "story line."

[pensacola88]

Some writers on this stream don''t understand that it doesn''t make you a patriot to murder a prostitute, drug dealer, or illegal alien. It makes you a murdrer and you will be charged with a very serious crime and spend a long time wondering why you have less rights than the person you just murdered.

[pensacola88]

Some of you don''t know how easy it is to be an illegal alien in another country. Try this: go to San Diego, California and drive south on I-5. It is that simple. You will see one sign warning that you are about to cross into Mexico and have one chance to exit, but it won''t tell you whether to use the left lane or the right lane. Then 15 seconds later, you are in Mexico.

Did you bring your passport? Do you have Mexican Auto Insurance? If not, you are illegal. Now, that you are an illegal alien in Mexico, are you waiting for Mexican citizens to holler out at you and possibly beat you to death? Think about it. You are illegal there. Turning back to cross back over isn''t easy and will require some extensive navigation and about an hour or two of waiting in line.

You won''t find Mexican citizens or police officers looking for you and trying to throw you out of Mexico. (In fact, some way want a ride with you.)

Violent encounters over legal or illegal alien status only occur in a few places here, where education has been outpaced with sensational and impressionable news media. I wish those three youths had better access to role models who were more level headed. Being charged with murder with the rest of their lives ahead of them, proves we sometimes fail to answer the needs of our youth.

[patriot12436]

elfioso
If you come here legally i welcome you, if you come illegally i want you pursued to full extent of the law, not murdered like this man but with justice.

[elfilosofo7]

Wasn''t this country form by irish and european inmigrants? Maybe you people don''t like the way America is being form by hispanics know. But we are here to stay, the same way the irish, the german and the italians came.

[patriot12436]

rhs648
It isn''t a question of blaming him for his own death. Perhaps he confronted these youth and they attascked him, doesn''t matter, he was illegally here and no matter what their logic was for killing him it was wrong. We need to be above the standards set by criminals. He was a criminal but these youth were even worse than him.

[rhs648]

Posted by rhs648
"American is not suppose to be a lawless third world country."
But is that not what we become when we allow others to break our laws and then sit by saying it''''s alright, you mean well?
Murder has NO excuses. These boys deserve what they get. No question.
But.
If I had gone running through the middle of the million man march shouting the N word, I would have got beat up, maybe killed. Would it have been right? No. But I would have brought it on myself. Illegals are putting themselfs in that kind of situation, and they are taking Hispanic Americans down with them.
We need to return to the rule of law, and enforce it. And then we need to welcome anyone who decides the American dream is worth pursuing enough to follow the law and do it right.
It''''s not the right wing way. It''''s not the Left''''s either. It''''s the AMERICAN way.

Posted by dougmsbbs

These are all points on which we can agree.

[dougmsbbs]

Posted by rhs648
"American is not suppose to be a lawless third world country."
But is that not what we become when we allow others to break our laws and then sit by saying it''s alright, you mean well?
Murder has NO excuses. These boys deserve what they get. No question.
But.
If I had gone running through the middle of the million man march shouting the N word, I would have got beat up, maybe killed. Would it have been right? No. But I would have brought it on myself. Illegals are putting themselfs in that kind of situation, and they are taking Hispanic Americans down with them.
We need to return to the rule of law, and enforce it. And then we need to welcome anyone who decides the American dream is worth pursuing enough to follow the law and do it right.
It''s not the right wing way. It''s not the Left''s either. It''s the AMERICAN way.

[bhappy2-2]

We need to teach our younger citizens to use a better criteria for their judgement and refrain from violent encounters over senseless reasons.


Posted by Pensacola88

We need to get the ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS out of our country. If our government would do the job we hired them to do the ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS would not be here for our young people to victimize.

[rhs648]

Pennsacloa well said.If this young man had stayed in his country and was supporting his government by joining his military he would not have been in the U.S and this would not have occurred on him .There is a great number of mexican people who come to the states in the legal system and are productive people.Wether this man was productive or not he is not suppose to be here on U.S. soil.

Posted by tootall1014

This sounds like another "blame the victim" for his own death. American is not suppose to be a lawless third world country. Whether here legally or illegally, there is no justification for murder. These boys should hsave kept their feet and hands to themselves. Let their fate be a lesson for others who would do the same. Perhaps the best justice would be to send these youths to the victim''s country of origin for punishment.

[keithle1]

That being said, find me a poor black or white American that wants to pick fruit & vegetables in the hot sun day after day for very low pay. No one is chomping at the bit to do those jobs. When was the last time people who weren''t from south of the border
did these agricultural jobs?

Are Hispanic men taking away construction jobs from black/white American men? Maybe. You could make an argument for that.

Hispanic women do most of the housekeeping/janitorial work in offices, hotels, etc. Do poor white/black women want to do these jobs at the pay level that Hispanic women will do it?

If your job doesn''t require fluency in English & is a low-paying, physical job then maybe you should worry about illegals.

[keithle1]

Until the economies of Mexico & Central America improve dramatically & I don''t see that happening any time soon, we''re going to have an endless stream of illegals.

They''ll find a way to get here. One way or the other. Because things are so much better here in the USA than where they come from.

If the problem was an easy one, we would have solved it by now.

[obamaiscool]

we need more great american heros like these 3 fine boys. since the government cant defend our borders, it is left to the citizens to defend themselves. its too bad they didnt find him before he had those two anchor babies with that trashy woman

[patriot12436]

obama441
he is jealous because he didn''t get to participate in the killing. Something like this is his specialty, when the person is outnumbered.

[pensacola88]

This news is evidence that young people can be polarized by strong personalities what do nothing to de-escalated anger and violence.

When a war endures over a long period of time, citizens far away from the war front can loose their focus and discipline and pursue an unhealthy hunt for victims of their personal differences.

Mexican citizens have enlisted into our military and fought along side of our own citizens in Iraq and Afghanistan. I have personally met them and respect them as our own.

Mexican Military are fighting narco-terrorists in Mexico who have destablized many areas of our countries. I have personally met and spoken to them in Acapulco, Mexico this past week. They work hard to identify their own villans who are their citizens and look just like their own brothers.

We need to teach our younger citizens to use a better criteria for their judgement and refrain from violent encounters over senseless reasons.

[obama441]

tootall1014 he,he truth hurts huh? see the pic of Ramirez? cowards like you did that NEXT....

[patriot12436]

obma441
I don''t need to say it you are the epitimy of the word.

[patriot12436]

obama441
How do you expect obama to win with someone like you suporting him. You have to be able to read and punch the ballot to vote. Your too illeterate and stupid to do either.

[grammawhamma]

obama441: You really need to get a life. I don''t think Barack would be very proud of you. Shame, shame.