LONDON, July 18, 2008

Upcoming Overseas Trip Key For Obama

Democratic Presidential Candidate Has Little Room For Error In Trip To Europe And Mideast

  • Play CBS Video Video High Stakes For Obama

    Barack Obama will soon embark on a trip across the Middle East and Europe. The stakes are high, and any mistake would give his rival the chance to highlight his inexperience. Susan Roberts reports

  • Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama Photo

    Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama  (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

  • In-Depth VP Hot Sheet: Obama

    CBSNews.com ranks the top contenders to be Obama's running mate.

  • Photo Essay Barack Obama

    A look at the life and meteoric rise of the president-elect.

(CBS)  To win votes at home, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is taking to the world stage.

CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar reports the senator's pending whirlwind tour of Europe and the Middle East is a chance for Americans to see how he measures up as a statesman, and a chance for citizens of foreign countries to take a closer look at a man who will make a big impact on their lives if he becomes president.

A 12,000-mile trip in the middle of an election campaign is an unusual choice for any candidate, but for Obama it's an attempt to demonstrate he has the necessary gravitas to maneuver through diplomatic minefields - especially in the volatile Mideast.

He'll head to Iraq, where people are well aware of his proposal to withdraw all U.S. combat troops within 16 months, should he win America's top job.

American presidents have been unpopular in Iraq for almost 20 years, but many Iraqis say they do support the notion of seeing U.S. troops go home.

"I'm for withdrawal now," one Baghdad shopper says. "The Americans have caused all our problems." If Obama's plan is genuine, the shopper says, "we bless it, we need withdrawal today."

Meanwhile, Obama has already angered Palestinians by saying that "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."

President Clinton proposed Jerusalem as the capital of both Israel and Palestine.

Obama has had to backtrack, but Palestinians and Israelis have been left wondering if he really understands the complexity of their situation.

Then, on to Europe, where many are enthusiastic about the young senator's campaign.

However, Germany's chancellor has accused him of over-reaching his status. The Obama campaign's request to speak at the Brandenburg Gate - made an icon of freedom by President Reagan's famous "tear down this wall" speech addressing then Russian leader Mikhail Gorbachev, has been rejected.

That location, the German government says, is reserved for elected presidents.

There's no question that Obama, more than any other recent presidential candidate, excites great interest, even this far away, says MacVicar, but his meetings with presidents and prime ministers will be a little more formal as there is no point in building a very warm relationship if he doesn't end up the inhabitant of the White House next January.

"I don't know the time a challenger has had the focus that Barack Obama has. This is more attention to a foreign trip than even President Bush would get," said political analyst and pollster Frank Luntz of the buzz being generated by Obama's trip.

"They're going to line up by the thousands to get a chance to wave at him. He will get a good response in every country, except Israel," Luntz told CBS' The Early Show.

But Obama has no chance to let his guard down and bask in the glory during this trip, cautions Luntz. "One slip up, one mistake, and John McCain will pounce.

"He's only been a senator for three years," says Luntz. "So, a lot is at stake here."

© MMVIII, CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Candidate Profiles & RSS Feeds


Video and Galleries from The Early Show

Add a Comment See all 139 Comments
by Frisky1989 July 18, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
Maybe we''ll get lucky and he''ll get lost over there!!!
Reply to this comment
by ariel133 July 18, 2008 8:45 AM PDT
You know what''s really getting old? Not those who are bashing Republicans, but those who are supportive of ignorant, unqualified, and naive Liberals and Congress- who have failed America with their grandeous promises. They are inept and disgraceful to call The President a failure, even if he is. They have no respect for their leader even if he is not perfect. If you think Obama is perfect you have a poor sense of reality, and though McCain is not perfect he is far more experianced to lead a country than this boy wonder.
Reply to this comment
by Frisky1989 July 18, 2008 8:51 AM PDT
Ariel: Well said!!!
Reply to this comment
by jmurrieta1 July 18, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
"However, Germany''s chancellor has accused him of over-reaching his status. The Obama campaign''s request to speak at the Brandenburg Gate - made an icon of freedom by President Reagan''s famous "tear down this wall" speech addressing then Russian leader Mikhail Gorbachev, has been rejected.

That location, the German government says, is reserved for elected presidents."



Yes, Adolph made some very nice appearances at that location.

Adolph is a German''s idea of a REAL leader.

Maybe Bush gave Merkel another backrub in thanks.
Reply to this comment
by fstop100 July 18, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
maybe he can get the whole world to speak spanish
Reply to this comment
by meanbiker July 18, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
Who is paying for this trip? Is there any other reason other then a media opportunity?

I see no change here.. Just another politician milking the system for his/her own benefit..
Reply to this comment
by xlib July 18, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
I understand Bruce Springsteen is the opening act for the big tour what with the big three "anchors" from the msm going with the messiah. Can''t wait to hear those hard hitting questions the empty suit will face.Frankly asking if the messiah thinks the helmet makes his ears look bigger would be one question. Of course perky katie will ask if the cami pants make her butt look big. Oh yea, this will definetly assure the empty suit will have all that much needed foreign policy experience.
Reply to this comment
by xlib July 18, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
And the emoty suit messiah is owned by soros, who owns the dem party. Yep, gotta love the fact that the ordained messiah is nothing more than a Chicago politican with a big mouthed, perpetually angry wife. Why, kinda makes kerry and heinz-kerry look good.
Reply to this comment
by nolalou July 18, 2008 9:15 AM PDT
Sorry, CoffeeGlss, but Ariel''s point may be ''very well said'', but that doesn''t keep it from being wrong! It is NOT disgraceful to call the President a failure! What is it about FREEDOM you do not understand! One of the freedoms we are supposedly fighting for is freedom of speech, and freedom to OPPOSE THE GOVERMENT WHEN THEY ARE WRONG! In fact is is the right and duty of every patriotic American to say so when the President is wrong, and this President has been wrong more than most, in fact HE HAS BEEN A DISASTER! What''s getting old is IDIOTS like you who have no idea what our rights are, and if it was up to you, we wouldn''t have a Bill Of Rights!
Reply to this comment
by monkfellow July 18, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
Yes, Adolph made some very nice appearances at that location.

Adolph is a German''''s idea of a REAL leader.

Maybe Bush gave Merkel another backrub in thanks.
--
uh, that evil right-winger John F. Kennedy spoke in that area in 1962, within touching distance of the Berlin Wall, stating "I am a Berliner" and being one with free Germany and Western ideals of freedom and democracy. No one accused him of being in the pocket of the Nazis. You Bush hating libpigs are something else..
Reply to this comment
by bfjones666 July 18, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
So Dan Rather says a man can''t learn anything in two days. Bullsh*t!!! Maybe Dan can''t learn anything but I sense that he is talking about his own short-comings. We have seen even our dumb-founded congress learn from 1-day hearings with less intensity that sitting down with a world leader. Hell, Bush was able to "see into the soul" of the Russian president in a matter of minutes and knew he could work with Tony Blair after less than a minute. Plenty can be learned over the course of a few days.
Reply to this comment
by dhtigerfan July 18, 2008 9:24 AM PDT
Just a reminder that it was McBush that continually urged Obama to make this trip. Now that he is going he is being raked over the coals for doing so. Face it Repubs, you have nominated an idiot!
Reply to this comment
by rowdywicca July 18, 2008 9:28 AM PDT
To some, it''''s quite obvious, that nothing this man does will be good enough. If only all of you had taken as critical a look at Dubya when he was running for office. Maybe we wouldn''''t need such change.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by Policrypt at 09:03 AM : Jul 18, 2008

I believe the last time I heard this CHANGE ***** it was coming out of Bush''s campaign!

Like I''m going to believe another political HACK that says they''re going to CHANGE!!!

Everywhere Obama goes should be about four feet deep in manure! And he needs 30,000 people with shovels to dig himself out of it!
Reply to this comment
by dhtigerfan July 18, 2008 9:30 AM PDT
Just a quick reminder. I seem to remember that McBush is the one that kept urging Obama to make this trip. Now that he is going, all the repubs can do is find fault for him going. You can''t have it both ways! Face it, your party has nominated an aging idiot for the highest office in this country.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 9:34 AM PDT
He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents list Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam.
His third grade teacher, Fermina Katarina Sinaga, now 67, asked her class to write an essay titled "My dream: What I want to be in the future." Obama wrote "I want to be a President," she said.

All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.

He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."
The evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such."
Reply to this comment
by ariel133 July 18, 2008 9:35 AM PDT
Obama''s next dodge will be to talk up diplomacy - that a dialogue with the mullahs can hold Iran at bay. But no negotiations are possible with al-Qaida - and Americans realize that talks with Iran will go nowhere unless we have the leverage of force. His reliance on diplomacy will come off as naive, reinforcing the impression that he''s not ready for the job.


Eventually, he''ll have to say he''s prepared to go back into Iraq if the situation deteriorates. Voters will realize that a nominal troop presence and diplomacy won''t do the job.


That''s when McCain moves in for the kill: "So, isn''t your rigid adherence to withdrawal inviting a third Iraq War?"


He can claim the mantle of the true peace candidate - saying that he''ll stay in Iraq, keep control, build up the Iraqi army and keep US casualties down. Obama''s pullout, he can warn, would mean an inevitable third Iraq war. Obama is stuck seeming either naive - or just as likely to get us into a war as President Bush was.


The success of the surge has created an ideal situation for McCain. What had been the chief Democratic argument against the Republicans can now be their best tool to destroy Obama.

Reply to this comment
by rowdywicca July 18, 2008 9:36 AM PDT
Just a quick reminder. I seem to remember that McBush is the one that kept urging Obama to make this trip. Now that he is going, all the repubs can do is find fault for him going. You can''''t have it both ways! Face it, your party has nominated an aging idiot for the highest office in this country.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by dhtigerfan at 09:30 AM : Jul 18, 2008

Fact it...your party APPOINTED and inexperienced, incompetent twit who happens to be an arrogant JERK!

It''s a shame he and his gas bag wife are so angry and hateful about the country that has allowed them to live the very dream most Americans work for. And it''s a shame they didn''t have to work for it...it was just bought for them buy a bunch of corrupt Muslim backers from Chicago...and oil and energy, telecom, insurance, and sub-prime lending sponsors! I don''t think 143 days is quite long enough for one to deserve the highest position in the free world.
Reply to this comment
by zerato-2009 July 18, 2008 9:37 AM PDT
Who is paying for this trip? Is there any other reason other then a media opportunity?

Posted by MeanBiker

I was so glad you were so interested in the financing of this trip. I wish you were interested in the hundred or so of mccains
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 9:38 AM PDT

Barack Obama was born of Communist activists, mentored by a communist writer and activist, spent his college days hanging around radical activists, worked as a radical community organizer learning the radical tactics of Alinsky, kept contact with radicals through the years, attends a radical church, and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and has radicals working on for his campaign. Marxism
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 9:39 AM PDT
Obama believes in Reparation payments for slavery?

Barrack Obama%u2019s pastor not only spews anti-American rhetoric from the pulpit but favors shaking down U.S. taxpayers for %u201Creparations%u201D for slavery.

After playing a video question submitted by a South Carolina (SC) citizen, CNN''s Anderson Cooper asked, "Senator Obama, [what is] your position on reparations?" Obama said,

"I think the reparation we need right here in South Carolina is investment, for example in our schools.

Finally, the most telling indication that Obama has a secret addiction to reparations is reflected in those who support him and those whom he supports: the most notorious race-baiter on the Chicago City Council, Alderwoman Dorothy Tillman.

Haven''t heard of Dorothy Tillman? You better learn about Obama''s #1 supporter. And fast. You really should know who she is. Tillman has almost single-handedly made a joke of the City of Chicago in the public finance industry over her preoccupation with slavery and reparations.

Tillman supports Obama and Obama supports Tillman.

Obama has never said he against Reparations for slavery. Never.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 9:41 AM PDT
"A large phone banking effort to the super d''s combined with Obama''s flips and poor presumptive nominee performance, etc have yielded doubts within the super delegates, enough that 3 elected and 5 DNC members have confided that should they have the opportunity to do so, they will vote for Hillary."

Obama is boring, and he likes to preach -- I call him a sanctimonious hypocrite, because by his own accounts in "The Audacity of Hope" he hasn''t exactly been a choir boy (though he''s also not been the biggest Hellraiser on the block, either). I find this obnoxious tendency of his quite annoying and stifling.

I also agree with you that this is the most joyless campaign I''ve ever seen; Walter Mondale had more fun than this in 1984. So did Dukakis, even after Bernard Shaw''s atrocious comment in 1988.

It''s time for Obama to go -- as Evelyn Pringle''s article title has it, "Curtain Time for Barack Obama."
Reply to this comment
by rowdywicca July 18, 2008 9:44 AM PDT
I''m sure they''ll get some nice pictures...maybe he''ll take some with some of his Islamofast buddies...maybe they''ll do a fist bump!

Can''t wait to see Obama in his flack jacket, and bobble head helmet...

Wonder how much this is going to cost us to keep jet fighters in his flying space?
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks, wife of the hateful Rev. Meeks.

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that''''s when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who''''s seen this.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 9:55 AM PDT

''My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you''ll join with
me as we try to change it.''

- Barack Obama

................................

He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents list Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam.
His third grade teacher, Fermina Katarina Sinaga, now 67, asked her class to write an essay titled "My dream: What I want to be in the future." Obama wrote "I want to be a President," she said.

All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.

He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."
The evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such."
Reply to this comment
by peterp111 July 18, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
%u201CThere are many people in South Africa who are rich and who can share those riches with those not so fortunate who have not been able to conquer poverty,%u201D Mandela said.

MANDELLA LIVES COMFORTABLY IN A MANSION AT 90 YRS OLD -WHY DOESN''T HE OFFER HIS RICHES TO THE POOR? ISN''T POVERTY, THEN, REALLY ONLY A STATE OF MIND? IF HE CAN BE PRESIDENT OF HIS COUNTRY WHY CAN''T ANYONE ELSE? OH, THAT''S RIGHT, YOU CAN.. OBAMA IS TRYING. SO ALL IT TAKES IS LOTS OF MONEY, A GOOD PROMISE OR TWO, AND A RACE CARD.
Reply to this comment
by chrisl45 July 18, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
The Democratics were wrong. Up to a year ago, it was the Democratics who fought hard against the Iraqi war. They used this single fact to gain control of congress. They lectured and gave speeches demanding our evacuation from Iraq, our surrender. They gave false promises. The Democrats said they would force the end of the war. The Democratics were wrong. Senator John McCain stood alone in decrying the benefits of putting more troops on the ground in Iraq. It became known as the Surge. John was right, and the Democrats were wrong. The United States is now winding down the war in Iraq. There is no easier way to put it. The Democrats were wrong. Now, a Democratic goes overseas and the media is kicking at his boots. The Democrats have killed American soldiers because of depression and things like that! It has to stop! We can make it stop! Will you please join me in showing your support for America, our troops, and senator John McCain. You can do anything from as simple as saying a silent prayer or making a promise to yourself or by contacting your local McCain office. You count. The truth will protect us.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
Obama is boring, and he likes to preach -- I call him a sanctimonious hypocrite, because by his own accounts in "The Audacity of Hope" he hasn''t exactly been a choir boy (though he''s also not been the biggest Hellraiser on the block, either). I find this obnoxious tendency of his quite annoying and stifling.

I also agree with you that this is the most joyless campaign I''ve ever seen; Walter Mondale had more fun than this in 1984. So did Dukakis, even after Bernard Shaw''s atrocious comment in 1988.

It''s time for Obama to go -- as Evelyn Pringle''s article title has it, "Curtain Time for Barack Obama."

And it''s time for Hillary Clinton to come back into the picture; this is her time and we are her people, precisely because we do think for ourselves. (As a friend of mine said last night to me in a telephone call, the main difference between Clinton supporters and Obama supporters is that we think for ourselves and we argue with each other. Amicably, usually, but we do argue -- we''re not a bunch of Stepford wives and husbands, or as most of us would put it, O-bots.)

We need Hillary R. Clinton; we need her desperately. She must come back into this race for the good of the United States of America. Otherwise, we are doomed.
Reply to this comment
by peterp111 July 18, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
CHRISL45- I''m with ya, man!!!!


MCCAIN 2008-2012
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
I posted this before. With all the news coverage for Obama and none for McCain and also every magazine cover with pictures and articles of Barry and Michelle the guy should be triple digits ahead of McCain. He''s just barely ahead or a dead heat this tells you something. The MSM is in the bag for him and he still can''t get traction. I think buyer remorse is setting in now. Hillary could have beat McCain and they know it.
Reply to this comment
by peterp111 July 18, 2008 10:04 AM PDT
BAROACLOT- WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, CLINTON IS NOT THE ANSWER- SHE IS MORE OF THE SAME PROBLEM, IF NOT WORSE THAN OBAMA- AND IT IS BECAUSE OF HER HUSBAND THAT THEY WILL NEVER SEE THE INSIDE OF THAT WHITEHOUSE AGAIN.
Reply to this comment
by mbcsmith July 18, 2008 10:05 AM PDT
better hope your con racist buddies have an assassination plot cooked up in Iraq they can blame on insurgents


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by ainttaken at 09:55 AM : Jul 18, 2008



HHMMMMM, now that''s a good...Well, no. That would lower us to the LIB level. Good thought though.
Reply to this comment
by redbds July 18, 2008 10:05 AM PDT
For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that''''''''s when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who''''''''s seen this.

Posted by Barocalto at 09:53 AM : Jul 18, 2008

Okay. Let''s see it. Where can we find it? Put your money where your mouth is. Or did you just read aboutit some where?
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
Obama is going to lose the general election. Right now he has a 4% lead over McCain which is nothing. Obama should be up by 18% what with the hate for Bush and all but he is not and that is key. People know who McCain is heck he''s been around since Washington but they are just starting to learn who Obama is and his poll numbers are dropping. No McCain will win in November, Obama will not do very well.

Reply to this comment
by peterp111 July 18, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
That is why Michelle has been forced into the background- she is a complete liability to her husband.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:11 AM PDT
Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks, wife of the hateful Rev. Meeks.

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that''s when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who''s seen this.

The "tape" is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity''s site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

It''s also being reported that ABC-7 news anchors moderated a panel at the Conference that appears to be the one Michelle Obama participated in.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
Obama believes in Reparation payments for slavery?

Barrack Obama%u2019s pastor not only spews anti-American rhetoric from the pulpit but favors shaking down U.S. taxpayers for %u201Creparations%u201D for slavery.

After playing a video question submitted by a South Carolina (SC) citizen, CNN''s Anderson Cooper asked, "Senator Obama, [what is] your position on reparations?" Obama said,

"I think the reparation we need right here in South Carolina is investment, for example in our schools.

Finally, the most telling indication that Obama has a secret addiction to reparations is reflected in those who support him and those whom he supports: the most notorious race-baiter on the Chicago City Council, Alderwoman Dorothy Tillman.

Haven''t heard of Dorothy Tillman? You better learn about Obama''s #1 supporter. And fast. You really should know who she is. Tillman has almost single-handedly made a joke of the City of Chicago in the public finance industry over her preoccupation with slavery and reparations.

Tillman supports Obama and Obama supports Tillman.

Obama has never said he against Reparations for slavery. Never.

Reply to this comment
by berliner89 July 18, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
My difficulty is how a Senator of barely three years can be considered qualified. He has been running for President for 18 months so his experience is equivalent to a recent college graduate running for CEO of GM or Microsoft.
Advocates of %u201Cchange%u201D remind me when Jimmy Carter was running for President. He wanted change and we got it. Many might not remember interest rates running at 18%, inflation running amuck, and a military that couldn%u2019t fight through a paper bag. Change can be good but I want someone that can be persuasive to make the change instead of throwing around just words.
People need to look through the rhetoric and look for substance. Experience means conviction of belief, not a sound bite that is appealing to those that can%u2019t think for themselves.
Reply to this comment
by banders6 July 18, 2008 10:15 AM PDT
The potential leader of the most powerful nation in the world with not debate his opponent. How will he ever debate the best interest of our great nation with foreign leaders, they%u2019ll not be encumbered by something that happened hundreds of years ago and certain words are not allowed to be used. Is he just that much of a slow thinker, would he have to leave the room and then think about an answer, maybe he%u2019ll have a mic in his ear and have an aid think for him and tell him the answer. Do you think that HRC would be afraid to debate McCain, do you think Edwards would be afraid to debate McCain, do you think anyone of presidential backbone would be afraid to debate McCain. And he is a Harvard Law School grad, they must be graduating a bunch of wimps, surely don%u2019t call them to be your lawyer. Who is is he bringing with him on this trip to think for him.
Reply to this comment
by redbds July 18, 2008 10:16 AM PDT
The "tape" is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity''''s site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

It''''s also being reported that ABC-7 news anchors moderated a panel at the Conference that appears to be the one Michelle Obama participated in.

Posted by Barocalto at 10:11 AM : Jul 18, 2008

I am no fan of Obama. But I have not seen or heard of this rant that you are talking about. Have you actually seen it? I think the whole thing is made up. If it were actually out there it would be all over the internet and on the news. It would likely have already been uploaded to Youtube. Since you are the only one talking about it, it is probably BS.
Reply to this comment
by redbds July 18, 2008 10:18 AM PDT
Obama has never said he against Reparations for slavery. Never.

Posted by Barocalto at 10:12 AM : Jul 18, 2008

Nor has any other politician that wants to be elected to any office.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:19 AM PDT
Obama He lectures us that instead of worrying about immigrants learning English, "you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish" %u2014 a language Obama does not speak. He further admonishes us on how "embarrassing" it is that Europeans are multilingual but "we go over to Europe, and all we can say is ''merci beaucoup.'' " Obama speaks no French.

His fluent English does, however, feature many such admonitions, instructions and improvements. His wife assures us that President Obama will be a stern taskmaster: "Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism . . . that you come out of your isolation. . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

For the first few months of the campaign, the question about Obama was: Who is he? The question now is: Who does he think he is?
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
Nor has any other politician that wants to be elected to any office.

Posted by redbds

LOL................................
Reply to this comment
by peterp111 July 18, 2008 10:20 AM PDT
There something to be said for having Michelle Obama forced into the background- She is a liablity to her husband- and a woman who is also not qualified to be in the WhiteHouse- with her suprising statements about ''finally being proud of the country'' and ''those hateful & bitter white americans''-I think the Obama''s sincerely underestimate the qualifications needed to be in a Presidential position, since they state that his trip to Europe is an ''"Audition"..What Audacity! The sense of entitlement is abundant with Democrats and this why they keep losing and will lose again. Pelosi is taking no responsiblity for her "failures" but blaming Bush, And Congress has failed the public with all there failed promise''s..Hasn''t the American people learned anything from the delusional people who have no sense of honor or respect for the USA?
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
Obama He lectures us that instead of worrying about immigrants learning English, "you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish" %u2014 a language Obama does not speak. He further admonishes us on how "embarrassing" it is that Europeans are multilingual but "we go over to Europe, and all we can say is ''merci beaucoup.'' " Obama speaks no French.

His fluent English does, however, feature many such admonitions, instructions and improvements. His wife assures us that President Obama will be a stern taskmaster: "Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism . . . that you come out of your isolation. . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

For the first few months of the campaign, the question about Obama was: Who is he? The question now is: Who does he think he is?
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
Barack Obama

................................

He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents list Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam.
His third grade teacher, Fermina Katarina Sinaga, now 67, asked her class to write an essay titled "My dream: What I want to be in the future." Obama wrote "I want to be a President," she said.

All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.

He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."
The evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such."

Obama''''''''s half-sister, Maya, recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events," and "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers."
Reply to this comment
by redbds July 18, 2008 10:28 AM PDT
Nor has any other politician that wants to be elected to any office.

Posted by redbds

LOL...........................
.....

Posted by Barocalto at 10:20 AM : Jul 18, 2008

So you can''t say anything except LOL. Look I am with you that Obama is not the right candidate for office. But, you are posting a lot of BS that you can''t back up. You are using a standard that is typically used by liberals. That is to say anything to discredit the candidate and then when you are asked to back it up you duck the question. What you do is exactly what is wrong with the political process in this country.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
redbds

Do you even know what Reparations payments for slavery is?????

Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
Obama believes in Reparation payments for slavery?

Barrack Obama%u2019s pastor not only spews anti-American rhetoric from the pulpit but favors shaking down U.S. taxpayers for %u201Creparations%u201D for slavery.

After playing a video question submitted by a South Carolina (SC) citizen, CNN''s Anderson Cooper asked, "Senator Obama, [what is] your position on reparations?" Obama said,

"I think the reparation we need right here in South Carolina is investment, for example in our schools.

Finally, the most telling indication that Obama has a secret addiction to reparations is reflected in those who support him and those whom he supports: the most notorious race-baiter on the Chicago City Council, Alderwoman Dorothy Tillman.

Haven''t heard of Dorothy Tillman? You better learn about Obama''s #1 supporter. And fast. You really should know who she is. Tillman has almost single-handedly made a joke of the City of Chicago in the public finance industry over her preoccupation with slavery and reparations.

Tillman supports Obama and Obama supports Tillman.

Obama has never said he against Reparations for slavery. Never.
Reply to this comment
by redbds July 18, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
it is further proof the media is cuddling this guy and this is one of the reasons there are so many anti-obama-pro-hillary groups out there today, and new ones forming almost every week.

Posted by fenner at 10:29 AM : Jul 18, 2008

Hillary is no longer relevant to anything in this election. A lot of people are still holding out hope that somehow she will be the candidate, but it just wont happen.
Reply to this comment
by barocalto July 18, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
Obama lectures us that instead of worrying about immigrants learning English, "you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish" %u2014 a language Obama does not speak. He further admonishes us on how "embarrassing" it is that Europeans are multilingual but "we go over to Europe, and all we can say is ''merci beaucoup.'' " Obama speaks no French.

His fluent English does, however, feature many such admonitions, instructions and improvements. His wife assures us that President Obama will be a stern taskmaster: "Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism . . . that you come out of your isolation. . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

For the first few months of the campaign, the question about Obama was: Who is he? The question now is: Who does he think he is?
Reply to this comment
See all 139 Comments
  • MOST POPULAR
  • Viewed
  • Commented
Latest News
Featured Blogs