ROSH HANIKRA, Israel, July 16, 2008
Hezbollah Chief Greets Freed Prisoners
Lebanese Militant Group Trades Two Coffins For Five Prisoners In Contentious Deal With Israel
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Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, center, gestures as he stands near released prisoners Samir Kantar, second left, and Maher Kourani, left, during celebrations in Beirut, Lebanon, July 16, 2008. Nasrallah greeted the five Lebanese militants freed by Israel at a massive rally in south Beirut, his first public appearance since January. (AP PHOTO)
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In this photo released by the Israel Prison Authority, Lebanese militant prisoner Samir Kantar, third from right, is seen with three other prisoners from Hezbollah as they stand next to a border police before leaving the Hadarim prison near the Israeli coastal coty of Netanya early July 16, 2008. (AP Photo/Israeli Prison Authority)
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Zvi Regev, father of captured Israeli soldier Eldad Regev, seen in picture in background, stands outside his family's home in Kiryat Motzkin, July 15, 2008. (AP Photo/Tara Todras-Whitehill)
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In this Thursday July 7, 2005 file photo, Samir Kantar, a Lebanese militant serving multiple life terms for a 1979 attack on an Israeli town in which four Israelis were killed, is seen in his cell at Hadarim prison near the town of Tel-Mond, north of Tel Aviv. (AP Photo/Reuven Kastro, File)
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The black-turbaned Nasrallah walked on stage surrounded by bodyguards and shook hands, hugged and kissed each of the five men, who were freed as part of a prisoner exchange.
Nasrallah told tens of thousands of people at Wednesday's rally that the age of defeats is gone and now it is the age of victories.
Since the 2006 war between his group and Israel, Nasrallah has rarely appeared in public. The last time he was seen in public was in January.
Nasrallah said he would address the crowd later from a secret location through a video link.
Lebanon's Hezbollah guerrillas handed over two black coffins Wednesday containing the bodies of two Israeli soldiers and Israel set free the perpetrator of one of the grisliest attacks in its history, part of a dramatic prisoner swap that promised to boost the radical Islamic militia and close a painful chapter from Israel's 2006 war in Lebanon.
Lebanese militant Samir Kantar and four other prisoners crossed into a buffer zone between Lebanon and Israel. The Lebanese were driven in vehicles to the zone, and then drove into Lebanon proper in a Red Cross van.
Family and friends outside the homes of the two captured Israeli soldiers burst into tears early Wednesday when TV images showed Hezbollah guerrillas taking the coffins out of a black GMC van. Though officials had suspected Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev were dead, the sight of the coffins was the first concrete sign of their fate.
The day was fraught with tension and tears in Israel, a sharp contrast to the hero's welcome that awaited Kantar in the homeland he left 29 years ago to set out on his deadly mission.
The swap - mediated by a U.N.-appointed German official who shuttled between the sides for 18 months - is likely to provide a significant boost to Hezbollah, which is trying to rebuild a reputation tarnished when it turned its guns on fellow Lebanese in May.
It also provides a wrenching end to the war for Israel, which launched the fighting in response to the servicemen's capture. The campaign to bring them home had become a national crusade, and Israelis were glued to their televisions and radios Wednesday following every detail of the swap.
Lebanon's Al-Manar TV quoted senior Hezbollah official Wafik Safa at the border as saying the soldiers' bodies were in a "mutilated" shape from injuries they suffered during the July 12, 2006, raid.
Israeli forensic experts examined the remains for several hours, checking dental records among other things, before confirming the soldiers' identities. Israeli generals then went to the families' homes to deliver the news.
The confirmation set the stage for Israel to release Kantar and four other Lebanese prisoners to Hezbollah.
"The military bows its head and lowers its flags and warmly embraces the families, remembering its fighters who fell and were held by the enemy for two years," Brig. Gen. Avi Benayahu, the chief military spokesman, said at the Rosh Hanikra border crossing.
The two soldiers, who were promoted posthumously, are to be buried on Thursday, he said.
The soldiers' Hezbollah captors had withheld any information about them since they were taken, refusing to release pictures or allow the Red Cross to see them. It was not clear if Regev and Goldwasser were killed in the original raid or if they died in captivity.
Goldwasser's newlywed wife, Karnit, had traveled the globe over the past two years, meeting with world leaders in a tireless campaign to bring the soldiers home. She and her father, Omri Avni, were at his parents' house when the family was notified.
"After two difficult years, this was the most difficult moment," he said. "Karnit vowed to bring Udi home. Now that this mission has been accomplished, a storm of emotions has erupted. ... We are in a difficult state."
Goldwasser's father, Shlomo, said earlier in the day that the sight of the coffins on TV "was not easy to see, though it didn't come as much of a surprise."
"But coming face-to-face with reality is always tough," he told Israel Radio.
Regev's father, Zvi, said he fell apart the moment he saw Hezbollah take the coffins out of a van and place them on the ground.
"It was horrible to see it," he said, choking back tears. "We were always hoping that Udi and Eldad were alive and that they would come home and we would hug them."
An aunt of Regev's collapsed at the TV footage of the coffins. Some 50 friends, neighbors and family who had gathered outside Zvi Regev's house sobbed, rocked back and forth in prayer, lit candles or tugged at their hair. "Nasrallah, you will pay," several of the mourners vowed, referring to Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah.
Other people in the crowd criticized Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, saying the soldiers died for nothing.
A large, framed photograph of Regev hung at the entrance to his father's house. On the upper left hand side appeared the message, "Eldad, we haven't forgotten, and we're waiting for the day you return home."
Although polls show Israelis solidly endorse the exchange, many see Kantar as the embodiment of evil.
For Moshe Sasson, who barely escaped the wrath of soon-to-be freed Samir Kantar, Wednesday's swap has stirred some very painful memories. Sasson said Tuesday he remembers Kantar's "face, the dark black eyes and murderous gaze," saying he was like "the angel of death."
In the dead of night on April 22, 1979, Kantar and three other gunmen made their way in a rubber dinghy from Lebanon to the sleepy Israeli coastal town of Nahariya, 5 miles south of the Lebanese border. There, in a hail of gunfire and exploding grenades, they killed a policeman who stumbled upon them, then burst into the apartment of Danny Haran, herding him and his 4-year-old daughter out of the house at gunpoint to the beach below, where they were killed.
The attack is seared in Israel's collective consciousness as being especially gruesome because an Israeli court found that Kantar shot Danny Haran in front of his child, then killed her by hitting her head with his rifle butt.
Haran's wife, Smadar, who had fled into a crawl space in the family apartment with her 2-year-old daughter, accidentally smothered the child with her hand while trying to stifle her cries.
Kantar, who acted on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Front, a small faction of the PLO, denies killing the older child and has never expressed remorse for the incident. He said the girl was killed in the crossfire as he battled Israeli police. He was 16 at the time.
Two members of his squad were killed in the raid, and the third, taken alive, was released in a 1985 prisoner swap.
Israel held on to Kantar for decades, hoping to use him as a bargaining chip to win new information about an Israeli airman whose plane crashed in Lebanon in 1986.
But despite dissatisfaction over Hezbollah's report on the aviator, provided over the weekend, and under pressure from the captured soldiers' families to bring them home, Israel's Cabinet voted on Tuesday to release Kantar.
The sorrow that swept across Israel with the images of the coffins contrasted sharply with the festive preparations for the return of Kantar and the four other Lebanese prisoners.
Hezbollah supporters set up a makeshift stage in the coastal town of Naqoura, where a brass band awaited the returning prisoners. On the platform stood a large photograph of a weeping Israeli woman. A nearby sign read, "Israel is shedding tears of pain."
"Lebanon is shedding tears of joy," read another.
A giant red carpet was rolled out along a road in front of the stage, next to dozens of yellow Hezbollah flags whipping in the breeze.
Winning freedom for Kantar was one of the reasons Nasrallah cited at the time for going to war with Israel in 2006.
The exchange is a somber occasion in Israel, where no ceremonies are planned.
In the Gaza Strip, controlled by the violently anti-Israel Hamas group, people handed out sweets to celebrate Kantar's impending release.
Ismail Haniyeh, Gaza's Hamas prime minister, called Kantar an "Arab nationalist hero." He warned Israel that it would also have to "pay the price" for a soldier Hamas has been holding since June 2006 and presumed alive.
"There is a captive Israeli soldier, and thousands of our sons are in prison," Haniyeh said. "Let them answer our demands."
Israeli critics have said that by trading bodies for prisoners, Israel is giving militants little incentive to keep captured soldiers alive. The critics charge that such lopsided swaps only encourage more hostage-taking by militants.
In addition to the five prisoners, Israel was releasing the bodies of 199 Lebanese and Palestinian fighters killed in clashes over the years.
This would not be the first time that Israel has paid a high price to return its troops. On several occasions, it released hundreds or thousands of prisoners in exchange for small numbers of Israeli soldiers, some of them dead.
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See all 172 Comments"These people are nothing but animals. All of them."
Who?
There is evil on both sides - both sides have committed atrocities - Jews and Arab.
The fact that they went to war and achieved nothing but a stalemate with a guerilla group is a defeat for Israel and their way of thinking.
Israel needs to stop throwing temper tantrums like a spoiled brat and get real about how to achieve peace with its Arab neighboors.
"Get real, Israel is a pin prick of land that the Palistinians throw temper tantrums over, if you can call strapping a bomb to yourself and blowing up as many innocent people you can a temper tantrum. Did you mean that Israel, a democracy, should get along with their barbaric Arab neighbors who hate Jew and ban Christianity from their land and kill their people for choosing Christ. Is that the Arabs that you are speaking of. The ones that use a crane to publicly execute 16 year old girls for committing fornication while the male involved looks on with no punishment. Wake up Antisemite because you don''''t know how ignorant you sound."
Actually, you just revealed how "ignorant" you are.
Oh, and why don''t you tell me why the Palestinians want Israel?
Is it because it''s also "their" land or because they simply "hate" all jews?
I know the answer - but I bet you don''t.
Moron.
The fact that they went to war and achieved nothing but a stalemate with a guerilla group is a defeat for Israel and their way of thinking.
Israel needs to stop throwing temper tantrums like a spoiled brat and get real about how to achieve peace with its Arab neighboors.
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Posted by closethippy1 at 06:08 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Excuse me?! Are you forgetting that two soldiers were kidnapped and killed by gorillas? At the time, the Israelis were not interested in an exchange of coffins, they wanted thier soldiers back alive. And, in any event, why would they opt to a prisoner exchange as a first chioce. For two dead bodies, they gave back scores of hezbollah bodies and released convicted killers. And you feel this should have been thier first action?!
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Now its time for all the ignorant people to post things like "If only Israel would return to the 1967 borders there would be peace." Totally ignoring the fact that surrounding Arab countries attacked Israel the moment it declared independence in 1948. If fact, the Arabs were attacking jews even BEFORE Israel declared it independence. For example, consider the Hebron massacre in the late 1920''s and the Mufti''s discussions with Hitler on how to exterminate jews in the 1940''s. But facts don''t matter.
Oh, and lets remember to say "are are anti zionist not anti semites," while using terms "hooked nose zionists" a statement that has been used by anti semites to describe all jews for millenia. And how would zionists develop "hooked noses" from thier philosophies? Obviously, its their Jewishness that is being attacked!
Posted by pointbreak14 at 08:48 AM : Jul 16, 2008
BOTH sides want ALL of the land for themselves. They''re both greedy, intolerant, bigoted, and use their respective religions as the justification to kill those on the "other side".
I say to hell with all of them - pull back our support, funding, arms, ammo, foreign aid, etc, and let them have at it. Eventually one side will win, and then there will be peace.
Posted by demslie2u at 08:41 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Where to you get this garbage?
Gaza ALWAYS belonged to the Palestinians, and Israel should NEVER have taken it away in the first place! And you act like they''re humanitarians because they gave it back?
Fatah and Hamas NEVER declared war on Israel, and in fact they are competing political parties like the DNC and the GOP are - except Fatah prefers peaceful diplomacy and negotiations. They wouldn''t team up to "declare war".
And please post ANY and ALL proof that you have, that the "Arabs have loved genocide for thousands of years"!
Your lack of knowledge regarding the whole issue is STUNNING!! How can you possibly comment on something, that you know NOTHING about?
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Posted by emelder at 08:30 AM : Jul 16, 2008
What a toll. Nobama hasn''t got a clue. Had we listened to him, we would not have the major successes in Iraq that we have today.
Bin laden, zawahiri, al-quaeda have all declared Iraq a major front in the war (on terror). Petraeus makes it very clear that this is a major battle in the greater war.
Why doesn''t Obama get it?
Bin laden, zawahiri, al-quaeda have all declared Iraq a major front in the war (on terror). Petraeus makes it very clear that this is a major battle in the greater war.
Why doesn''''t Obama get it?
Posted by mbcsmith at 09:09 AM : Jul 16, 2008
What successes? Prior to March 2003, al Qaeda WAS NOT permitted in Iraq - S. Hussein kept them out. It was only after we "liberated" the terrorists and the insurgents, that the problems started.
By the way, bin Laden made the claim that he hoped to turn Iraq into the central fight of the war on terror, AFTER we invaded Iraq. He said that he hoped that they could do to OUR military, what he did to the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80''s. Keep us there fighting indefinitely, until our country is financially broken. He also said that he tried to suck us into Somalia, but it didn''t work because we left.
In that context, bin Laden is winning the overall war on terror.
In that context, bin Laden is winning the overall war on terror.
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Posted by hungry1968 at 09:18 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Just like a LIB to keep looking backwards. Successes/ 15 of 18 benchmarks established by congress have been met. Violence down 70% year over year. Political reconciliation occurring, oil beginning to flow. It''s today you moron, NOT 5 years ago.
So how did Nobama arrive at a detailed surrender plan having NEVER been in Iraq. NOT MY PRESIDENT!
So how did Nobama arrive at a detailed surrender plan having NEVER been in Iraq. NOT MY PRESIDENT!
Posted by mbcsmith at 09:25 AM : Jul 16, 2008
NONE of the benchmarks were met! Notice that they aren''t saying that Iraq MET THE BENCHMARKS - they''re saying that progress towards meeting the benchmarks is ''satisfactory''.
For example - one "benchmark" is that provincial elections are to be held this fall. They are getting a ''satisfactory'' mark on that "benchmark", because the elections are scheduled to be held on Oct 1. Yet several sources say those elections are likely to be canceled and held next year.
Here''s another: "In the May progress report, one benchmark was deemed to have brought mixed results. The Iraqi army has made satisfactory progress on the goal of fairly enforcing the law, while the nation%u2019s police force remains plagued by sectarianism, according to the administration assessment." In other words, the law is being applied, but only to members of the rival religious sect.
There''s two of your benchmarks shot down. Don''t be such a lemming and ONLY listen to Bush or McCain. Do the research for a change and seek the truth.
Posted by onlythereal at 07:55 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Excuse me, but I come from a Palestinian Christian family who lives in a village half Christian, half Muslim and we''ve never had a problem with our Muslim neighboors.
Not to say everything is perfect in the Arab world but for you to say Arab are barbarics is simply racist and ignorant.
How convenient to pick and choose atrocities committed by any one of the 1.5 billion Muslims around the world as an excuse for Israel to take more of our land.
The only land we own is the 1200 acre olive farm we have, which is a pin prick compared to what Israel is, and hold on to it.
The Jewish settlers nearby are the ones throwing their drunken temper tantrums by uprooting our trees and shooting at our employees when they''re harvesting the olive fruit.
So how did Nobama arrive at a detailed surrender plan having NEVER been in Iraq. NOT MY PRESIDENT!
Posted by mbcsmith at 09:25 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Violence is down, because al Sadr called a cease fire in August - NOT because of the ''surge''. As proof, the ''surge'' is officially over, but the cease fire is still holding. Note the spike in violence in February when the first cease fire ended, and then a week later, he called a new cease fire and the violence died down again.
Please post ANY sign of political reconciliation!! Even Petraeus said that wasn''t happening - HOW CAN YOU?!?!
Excuse me?! Are you forgetting that two soldiers were kidnapped and killed by gorillas? At the time, the Israelis were not interested in an exchange of coffins, they wanted thier soldiers back alive. And, in any event, why would they opt to a prisoner exchange as a first chioce. For two dead bodies, they gave back scores of hezbollah bodies and released convicted killers. And you feel this should have been thier first action?!
Posted by ephd at 08:12 AM : Jul 16, 2008
No, sir, that''s what the families of the kidnappes soldiers and the families of the soldiers killed during that war are saying.
Obviously, its their Jewishness that is being attacked!
Posted by ephd at 08:30 AM : Jul 16, 2008
The Zionists never made a formal request to the Arab to make Palestine or portions of it a "Jewish state". They never even pretended to talk to us. Their main and only concern was to expel us out of our land and that they did in 1948.
By the time the Zionist terror groups kicked out 300,000 Palestinians the Arab countries came to our defense. But even so the Zionists were able to expel an additional 500,000 Palestinians.
In 1967 Israel preemptively attacked Egypt and Jordan to take all of Palestine for themselves, expelling another 200,000 Palestinians.
Like the delusional Bush the Israelis then thought thei''re mission was completed.
What a bunch of fools.
Your lack of knowledge regarding the whole issue is STUNNING!! How can you possibly comment on something, that you know NOTHING about?
Posted by hungry1968 at 09:07 AM : Jul 16, 2008
He''s simply a Repug and they''ll post anything as long as they think it furthers their perceived Repug cause. It''s the party or death for most Repugs at this point. Cheers!
1 Jew = 100 Muslims.
Posted by jerr111 at 10:01 AM : Jul 16, 2008
proof of.....????
Israeli''s have parents and children and families that mourn them. Palestinians are soulless terrorists.
Israel is right, even when they''re wrong. Palestinians are wrong even when they''re right.
That about covers it CBS News. All that''s left is cartoon caricatures of Arabs with big noses and rat tails.
Bin laden, zawahiri, al-quaeda have all declared Iraq a major front in the war (on terror). Petraeus makes it very clear that this is a major battle in the greater war.
Why doesn''t Obama get it?
Posted by mbcsmith at 09:09 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Why don''t Repugs seem to get it ? - Then they''d foolishly quote POS terrorists without understanding that these fools should have been killed by now but are being spared by their hero Dumbya - never showing any outrage at why those alq POS are still breathing anywhere but would insult Americans like Obama that want to go after those that attacked us even though it''s been 7years - Dems aren''t trying to forget those that caused 9/11 unlike the Repugs that just talk about never giving up in another man''s land, that we have no buisness being in, in the first place.
A Classic for the majority uneducated Repugs -
Rush Limbaugh, Nov. 3, 1988:
"And now the liberals want to stop President Reagan from selling chemical warfare agents and military equipment to Saddam Hussein, and why? Because Saddam ''''allegedly'''' gassed a few Kurds in his own country. Mark my words. All of this talk of Saddam Hussein being a ''''war criminal'''' or ''''committing crimes against humanity'''' is the same old thing. LIBERAL HATE SPEECH! And speaking of poison gas ...I SAY WE ROUND UP ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS AND GAS THEM."
Just like a LIB to keep looking backwards. Successes/ 15 of 18 benchmarks established by congress have been met. Violence down 70% year over year. Political reconciliation occurring, oil beginning to flow. It''s today you moron, NOT 5 years ago.
So how did Nobama arrive at a detailed surrender plan having NEVER been in Iraq. NOT MY PRESIDENT!
So how did Nobama arrive at a detailed surrender plan having NEVER been in Iraq. NOT MY PRESIDENT!
Posted by mbcsmith at 10:10 AM : Jul 16, 2008
You''re referring to "a satisfactory amount of progress has been made on 15 of 18 benchmarks". They HAVE NOT BEEN MET - they are ONLY MAKING PROGRESS on them!
As of March only THREE benchmarks were met.
But if you have PROOF of the benchmarks BEING MET, by all means feel free to post it.
Just like a LIB to keep looking backwards. Successes/ 15 of 18 benchmarks established by congress have been met. Violence down 70% year over year. Political reconciliation occurring, oil beginning to flow. It''''s today you moron, NOT 5 years ago.
So how did Nobama arrive at a detailed surrender plan having NEVER been in Iraq. NOT MY PRESIDENT!
Posted by mbcsmith at 10:10 AM : Jul 16, 2008
The reason you''re being ignored is that you seem to spew lies just to get a reaction from those you label Libs - but IMO, i think you need help and it''s not on these boards.
****** Besides, Obama had already been in Iraq and had not gone yet to Afganistan. You''re doing a great disservice to your other Repugs on these boards. Cheers!
BAPTISTS TORTURED BY HAMMAS - CARTER- WHO TAKES MONEY FROM OIL RICH ARABS, IGNORES.
"The Islamic Outreach" (NICE NAME) head- Sheik Abu Saquer on 8 26 07 proclaimed that there was no need to have Christians in GAZA. There were only about 3,000 living there before Israel left.
Now that HAMAS is in control, what has happened to them ?
All Christian Women must wear Muslim dress in public. No Church Services allowed. The YMCAS were burned down, and he directors killed. Beatings and rapes, as expected. for example:
Mr. Rami Ayyad one local leader of the Christians, and Christian book store owner - only one, brave soul, was tortured and murdered by HAMAS police, 10 11 07. His family given refuge in Israel, his book store destroyed. A blazing book burning of Christian Books followed - sounds like NAZIS ?) By the way - to CARTER- Ayyad was a practicing BAPTIST ! Will you ask about what happened to your fellow BAPTIST ? and why ? be strong Pres. Carter. coward.
So said Islamic Outreach . " All Christians engaging in missionary activity in GAZA will be dealt with HARSHLY."
CARTER takes millions of dollars each year from rich ARAB OIL, just to be a traitor to his own people. Why ??
How convenient to pick and choose atrocities committed by any one of the 1.5 billion Muslims around the world as an excuse for Israel to take more of our land.
The only land we own is the 1200 acre olive farm we have, which is a pin prick compared to what Israel is, and hold on to it.
The Jewish settlers nearby are the ones throwing their drunken temper tantrums by uprooting our trees and shooting at our employees when they''''re harvesting the olive fruit.
Posted by closethippy1
Do not blame israel for the prick piece of farm land you have...thank your almighty arafat and the plo for that!
They were the ones not wanting ANY type of peace agreement in exchange for land...and many offers were on the table back then.
Escuse me sir, it''s time to look for solutions in unity instead of keep preaching a brainwashed propaganda of hate
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Posted by parrot123 at 10:15 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Nobama has NEVER been to Iraq. LIB LIES show that they are supporting a Lying candidate.
PLO BARBARIANS- KILL AMERICANS TOO !
After Sirhan Sirhan ( still a hero to ARABs for murdering ROBERT KENNEDY), ARAFAT ordered the kidnapping of STATE DEPT DIPLOMATS CLEO NOEL AND CURTIS MOORE, who were on assignment as officials from Washington.
ARAFAT wanted to exchange them for SIRHAN ! ( was he nuts or what !)
Nixon of course said, no.
ARAFAT then ordered the torture by skinning alive, burning their eyes out, roasting over a fire pit, crushing and cutting off their pppenises, and stuffing them down their throats until they suffocated, and more.. our two men (one was Black the other White Americans). (we could not tell who was who after ARAFAT was done with them) We have this on recorded telephone conversation.
Arafat was big on torture. He also like to direct the torture of young girls, when in Lebanon, cutting off breasts of daughters of Christians who opposed him, and of course raping , and sometimes his signature torture cutting off arms and legs, and dumping the body on the doorstep. ARAFAT gets a peace prize ? Shame.
This is what ARAB terrorism is about. And continues.
And Carter supports these scum ?
Why do you think Bethlehem is now less than 20 % Christian, but had been 60 % before Arafat''s Islamic occupation ?
Posted by mbcsmith at 10:21 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Where''s the proof that you have stating that the 15 of 18 benchmarks have been met?
Dead bodies in exchange for criminal prisioners....hhmmm.... somebody good a good deal out of this one...again.
If you can not say that, you are an idiot.
It is ok to say what is true !
Do the Israelis ever believe that they and the Arabs can really make peace, absolutely not. The whole region is one big nightmare. They should all leave.
Olmert once again has made a bad deal. Why would they keep anyone alive, if they know that IS will trade living terrorists for corpses ?
I hope the USA never has such stupid leadership, and weak too.
I hope the USA never has such stupid leadership, and weak too.
Posted by ColonieNY
Colonie, you answered that yourself before...
There is a DIFFERENCE between radical muslims and israelis... you said barbaric...I would say the israelis have moral and principles engraved since they are born...call it what u want.
If you can not say that, you are an idiot.
It is ok to say what is true !
Posted by ColonieNY at 10:24 AM : Jul 16, 2008
No doubt - compared to western society, they are very barbaric.
But then again, so is Israel.
The Hamas spokesman''s statement clearly demonstrates exactly why you should never negotiate with terrorists - it only emboldens them to continue their heinous acts - they should instead be exterminated until the threat completely disappears.
And ABBAS - is celebrating as well, with all the hate Jews slogans as well. Some Partner for peace !
All of this is wishful thinking.
If this was WWII, the whole charade would be unthinkable.
Is, you need a new government.
There is a DIFFERENCE between radical muslims and israelis... you said barbaric...I would say the israelis have moral and principles engraved since they are born...call it what u want.
Posted by factsearcher at 10:29 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Holy cow - "moral and principles engraved since they are born"?
Can you tell us all why Amnesty International regularly condemns the Israeli government for human rights abuses / violations?
Or I suppose you think that bulldozing innocents peoples houses, launching missiles into their neighborhoods, and "walling off" whole neighborhoods turning them into prisons, are "moral and principled", right?
Posted by OneAmerican- at 10:33 AM : Jul 16, 2008
How do you propose to "exterminate them"?
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NGARY 1968 - There was a GAyyy PRIDE parade in Jerusalem a few weeks ago. In what other Middle EAST country could this happen ?
Is is not barbaric, it is the epitome of civilization and tolerance. It gives all the rights to people who are the most intolerant and most hateful on earth. That may be a great weakness as well
Posted by hungry1968 at 10:34 AM : Jul 16, 2008
Can you tell us why Amnesty Internation does not condemn Hamas for human rights abuses / violations?
I can. Amnesty international is a zenophobic far-left organization.
Posted by hungry1968 at 10:36 AM : Jul 16, 2008
They should be hunted down and killed.
Any other brilliant questions?
You are either a moral idiot, one of them or a graduate student.
NGARY 1968 - There was a GAyyy PRIDE parade in Jerusalem a few weeks ago. In what other Middle EAST country could this happen ?
Is is not barbaric, it is the epitome of civilization and tolerance. It gives all the rights to people who are the most intolerant and most hateful on earth. That may be a great weakness as well
Posted by ColonieNY at 10:36 AM : Jul 16, 2008
THAT is your proof of their "humanity"? They had a "g`a`y pride parade"?
How does that compare to this:
"Tens of thousands of Palestinian Arab Bedouin, the indigenous inhabitants of the Negev region, live in informal shanty towns, or %u201Cunrecognized villages,%u201D in the south of Israel. Discriminatory land and planning policies have made it virtually impossible for Bedouin to build legally where they live, and also exclude them from the state%u2019s development plans for the region. The state implements forced evictions, home demolitions, and other punitive measures disproportionately against Bedouin as compared with actions taken regarding structures owned by Jewish Israelis that do not conform to planning law."
I can. Amnesty international is a zenophobic far-left organization.
Posted by OneAmerican- at 10:38 AM : Jul 16, 2008
You can''t even spell xenophobic!! Obviously you don''t know what the word means!!
Funny how ALL of the human rights groups condemn Israel, and you bizarre flakes think that''s perfectly acceptable. But when Iran or North Korea make the list, you psychopaths claim they are the worst people EVER on the face of the earth, and should be exterminated.
Hypocrisy at it''s finest!!!
Posted by hungry1968
Oh come on! Dont be so ignorant!
War is war...or you think we havent ambushed, ramsacked and taken people out of iraq, afghanistan, pakistan...
the only way to treat terrorists is with force...
Nothing else need to be said.
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