U.S. Told To Halt Executions Of 5 Mexicans
World Court Says Condemned Prisoners In Texas Were Denied Help From Their Consulate
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In this June 19, 2008 file photo, U.S. legal advisor John Bellinger, left, stands behind the lectern as he addresses the World Court as Mexico's delegation is seen, bottom left corner, in the Great Hall of Justice at the Peace Palace in The Hague, Netherlands. (AP Photo/Peter Dejong)
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The Bush administration has unsuccessfully tried to get Texas courts to review the cases and said it expected the World Court's order to have little impact.
The World Court told U.S. authorities in 2004 to review the cases of 51 Mexicans sentenced to death by state courts after finding they had been denied the right to seek help from consular officials.
The World Court has no enforcement powers but President George W. Bush issued a directive to the Texas courts to abide by the 2004 ruling. The state courts refused to review the cases and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in March that the president cannot compel the state courts to comply.
Mexico turned again to the U.N. court in The Hague last month, arguing that the United States was defying the 2004 World Court order and asking the judges to issue an emergency injunction to stop the killings of five men whose executions were imminent.
Chief State Department advocate John B. Bellinger III argued that the World Court, the U.N.'s judicial arm for resolving disputes among nations, lacked jurisdiction because the Bush administration agreed with Mexico and there was no dispute.
"It almost never happens that the federal government enters an appearance in state court proceedings," he said, calling the Bush administration's intervention "highly unusual."
Mexico's chief advocate Juan Manuel Gomez-Robledo told the court the U.S. was nonetheless "in breach of its international obligations." He said international law applies not only to nations, but to their component states and asked the court to clarify its earlier ruling and in the meantime intercede with the U.S. authorities to halt the schedule of executions.
The U.N. judges ruled 7-5 Wednesday that it would consider Mexico's case and also try to stop the executions.
The World Court acknowledged that the U.S. federal government "has been taking many diverse and insistent measures" to persuade Texas not to carry out the execution of any of the 51 Mexicans covered by the original 2004 ruling.
Bellinger said that the World Court has limited powers over U.S. states or federal authorities in Washington.
"It does not have technical legal effect in the United States that would ... have a direct impact either on the United States or on Texas itself," he said.
Federal authorities were still discussing the case "constructively" with Texas, Bellinger said, and "Texas does take this all very seriously."
Mexico's ambassador to the Netherlands, Jorge Lomonaco Tonda, said he was satisfied with the result.
"We have full confidence that the ruling will be applied," he added.
The first of the Mexicans, Jose Medellin, is scheduled to be killed by lethal injection on Aug. 5 for taking part in the gang rape and murder of two teenage girls 15 years ago.
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- they come here to commit crimes now arrogant mexico takes us to a un court how messed up is that insult to injury now were are giving them 1 billion dollars so they can fight crime my god beem up scottie
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- If people want to commit crimes in the U. S., then they should be punished under U. S. laws. Mexico''s
citizens in this country, and anyone in this country
legally or illegally should be punished for their crimes under U. S. law; no exceptions. If the punishment means the death penalty, then so be it. - Reply to this comment
- There isn''t one of those globalist court tards sitting in The Hague whose thoughts can approach our Founding Fathers''. And the first one of our SC Justices, and I care not which one, to start quoting "the WC this and the WC that",......blow the dust of the Treason Books and start building the gallows. Want to make sure they get a speedy trial,.....while we''re still mad that is.
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- 1. They were in Texas illegally.
2. They committed rape and murder.
3. States rights. Who cares about international courts?
Posted by gladetryst at 05:38 PM : Jul 16, 2008
Am I missing something here I can find nowhere that states that these 51 people were here illegally. Are you all just assuming this to be the case?
P.S. please forgive the prior post. - Reply to this comment
- 1. They were in Texas illegally.
2. They committed rape and murder.
3. States rights. Who cares about international courts?
Posted by gladetryst at 05:38 PM : Jul 16, 2008 - Reply to this comment
- edintex
I think the people of Texas have taken a stand and said they are fed up with criminals and will not stand for them any longer. I am proud they have taken the stand they have. - Reply to this comment
- diatreme
Well said about bush. I agree totally. And he claims to be a Texan (not). - Reply to this comment
- mgeg1
Would you state what you are omplying about Texas. I find your question to vague to give a resoponse. Thank you. - Reply to this comment
- nolanlou
I live in Thailand and i see that the laws are upheld and applied very fairly to everyone here. - Reply to this comment
- it_oldtimer
I lived in Texas and i disagree with your opinion. I know many Mexicans, legal and illegal who are good people and work very hard at an honest living. I do not see Texas picking onany particular race when it comes to execution. I think they apply thelaw rationaly and justly. - Reply to this comment
- These people came here either legally or illegally, thus subjecting them to the jurisdiction of our laws. They were charged, tried, sentenced in accordance with these laws and no on e has the right to interfere with our carrying out a just sentence. We must remain strong under our constitution and our laws. They have had all avenues of appeals made available to them under our laws.
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- Posted by edintex at 09:31 PM : Jul 16, 2008--- The World Court knows exactly what they did. The issue is a power (authority) struggle for our national sovereignty that our globalist leaders from either party have been slowly ceding away year after year. I agree with your comment my friend. Us "America Firsters" MUST stick together in this before its too late.
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- If the world knew what these Mexican Nationals did to the two teen girls, Pena & Ertman, they couldnt POSSIBLY open their mouths about FAIRNESS. These "people", the murderers, are not even human in most eyes here.
I wish they would have every one of the executions on PPV. They would make a historic amount of money. I just wish they could execute them in a way that is at least a LITTLE painful.
To the rest of the world outside of Texas...STAY OUT OF OUR BUSINESS! We the Texas people overwhelmingly elected to KILL our murderers in this state. Its a tradition that goes way back to the beginning.
Its REAL SIMPLE. IF YOU WANT TO COMMIT CRIMES, DONT COME TO TEXAS. - Reply to this comment
- If Mexicans don''t want to die for killing US Citzens, I suggest they stay in their own country.
When I go to Mexico, I live by their laws. - Reply to this comment
- I think if the mexican government wishes for us to stop killing their illegal alien citizens for murder in the US of A they need to keep them home we do not want them here any way and if they kill up here they die up here.
When their government (El Presidenty) starts to send us remittance for the food, free housing, schools and medical care we give to the anchor kids and their parents (they do not get married up here in America, they just bred like rats for us to take care of as they have no man in the house and claim to be single moms with children, about 6 or 7 kids that is, I think they then can ask us to do things fot them.
Otherwise I would tell them all to-go-tohell.
Frank Bowers - Reply to this comment
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Well, it is only hours later because I have been at work. What makes you think I''m a turkey?
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Posted by Barocalto at 06:50 PM : Jul 16, 2008
It would only be a matter of time, before these pro-Israeli farts begin fouling up the boards, no matter the subject matter being discussed. - Reply to this comment
- He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents list Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam.
His third grade teacher, Fermina Katarina Sinaga, now 67, asked her class to write an essay titled "My dream: What I want to be in the future." Obama wrote "I want to be a President," she said.
All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.
He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.
In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."
The evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such."
Obama''''''''''''''''s half-sister, Maya, recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events," and "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." - Reply to this comment
- He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents list Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam.
His third grade teacher, Fermina Katarina Sinaga, now 67, asked her class to write an essay titled "My dream: What I want to be in the future." Obama wrote "I want to be a President," she said.
All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.
He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.
In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."
The evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such."
Obama''''''''''''''''s half-sister, Maya, recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events," and "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." - Reply to this comment
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