Genocide Charges Loom For Sudan President

But Sudan Dismisses ICC Proceedings On Darfur, Reiterates Refusal To Hand Over Suspects

(AP)  Sudan on Friday dismissed an investigation into crimes against humanity in Darfur and refused to deliver any suspects to the International Criminal Court, which is widely expected to go after Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir.

A prosecutor for the court, which is based in The Hague, Netherlands, will present evidence and name one or more new suspects on Monday in his investigation into crimes in the vast western region of Sudan. As many as 300,000 people have been killed since 2003 in fighting between rebels forces and the government and its allied militia fighters.

ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo has made it clear he is going after senior Sudanese government officials. U.N. officials and other experts say al-Bashir is expected to be charged with crimes against humanity and genocide.

A spokesman for the Sudanese president said Friday that the government "doesn't care" about the ICC, which he said has "no authority." Mahjoub Fadul Badry called the ICC prosecutor a "terrorist" whose investigation is based on biased testimony from rebel leaders.

Badry said the government would not hand over any suspects, even rebel leaders.

"Moreno-Ocampo's report depends on verbal testimony of rebel leaders and organizations that work under a humanitarian cover but in fact are branches of the intelligence apparatuses of other countries," Badry told The Associated Press.

"In the end, we don't really care what he says."

The court, the world's first permanent war crimes tribunal, did not say who will be identified as a suspect in the document Monday or give any details of the charges. But U.N. officials and diplomats say Sudan's president is widely expected to be charged.

In a report to the U.N. Security Council in June, Moreno-Ocampo alleged that Sudan's "whole state apparatus" is implicated in crimes against humanity in Darfur.

Sudan's ambassador to the U.N., Abdalmahmood Abdalhaleem Mohamed, warned that issuing an arrest warrant for senior government officials would threaten Sudan's relations with the U.N.

"That step would close the door of dialogue between Sudan and the United Nations," Mohamed was quoted as saying in Friday's Al-Sahafa newspaper.

[randynason]

So, where are the charges for our own dictator Bush? He''s guilty, too- not of genecide, but of kidnapping, torture and attacking a foreign, sovereign nation under the auspice of a pre-emptive strike. That is just as guilty and as important as the charges against Omar al-Bashir- maybe even more so, since the U.S. is supposed to be ''big brother" to the other countries. We don''t set a very good example, at all. And still, Congress does nothing. Nothing-

[randynason]

The American leader (Bush, at the G8 summit) who has been condemned throughout his presidency for failing to tackle climate change, ended a private meeting with the words: "Goodbye from the world''s biggest polluter."

He then punched the air while grinning widely, as the rest of those present including Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy looked on in shock.

GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!!! And this stupid moron thinks THIS is funny? He should be charged with idiocy, at the very least.

[mjm117]

So, where are the charges for our own dictator Bush? He''''s guilty, too- not of genecide, but of kidnapping, torture and attacking a foreign, sovereign nation under the auspice of a pre-emptive strike. That is just as guilty and as important as the charges against Omar al-Bashir- maybe even more so, since the U.S. is supposed to be ''''big brother" to the other countries. We don''''t set a very good example, at all. And still, Congress does nothing. Nothing-


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Posted by RandyNason at 01:36 PM : Jul 11, 2008



WOW. Now I am no Bush fan, but you are nuts. You really can''t compare Bush''s regime to to slaughter of 300,000.

It''s one thing to have an opinion, it''s another to be moronic

[cofmanaaron]

"That step would close the door of dialogue between Sudan and the United Nations," Mohamed was quoted as saying in Friday''s Al-Sahafa newspaper."

Alright, if we attacked Iraq because of Saddam''s humanitarian abuses (the only justifiable reason), then when are Bush and our European allies going to bring this modern-day Hitler to justice? You know, there was a quote in the movie Sahara that reflects to situation of Sudan and Zimbabwe: "This is Africa, noone cares about Africa". Hopefully the nations of the AU realize soon that the rest of the world is starting to see all of them as savages again.

[wardoglrs]

Hmm what about Bush shouldn''t he be in the same room?.
I cant believe what voters in the US think, It makes no since, There so Dumb downed living in fear of the world like the boogie man is coming to get them. They should be ashamed for what they have done 11 wars and counting
not one of them ever won, But they keep going to war and now there waring has caught up to them and they will suffer like no other. there own Federal Reserve will do to then what it was design to do just like the Romans fall of there empire

[libsluv2spit]

Hmm what about Bush shouldn''''t he be in the same room?.
I cant believe what voters in the US think, It makes no since, There so Dumb downed living in fear of the world like the boogie man is coming to get them. They should be ashamed for what they have done 11 wars and counting
not one of them ever won, But they keep going to war and now there waring has caught up to them and they will suffer like no other. there own Federal Reserve will do to then what it was design to do just like the Romans fall of there empire


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Posted by WarDogLRS at 02:54 PM : Jul 11, 2008
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despit of whatever unrelated vomit you just spewed..this great country still has a gorwing problem of people ILLEGALLY trying to taste our way of economics and lifestyle..HENCE STILL THE ENVY OF THE WORLD..something that all anti-american us military soldier spitting flag burning liberal CANNOT ACCEPT

[libsluv2spit]

all liberals failed to understand or refuse to accept that Africa is a huge clusterfu*ck of liberal misguided and incompetent strategy to ''help'' this continent..JUST ASK BONO..

because of these liberal activists..regimes and dictators are well-funded and more brutal..

[boatdocster]

all liberals failed to understand or refuse to accept that Africa is a huge clusterfu*ck of liberal misguided and incompetent strategy to ''''help'''' this continent..JUST ASK BONO..

because of these liberal activists..regimes and dictators are well-funded and more brutal..

Posted by libsluv2spit at 03:09 PM : Jul 11, 2008

Yep, that is true; and almost all of them installed by former NEOCON guys who think that might is right...

Plus they get a TWO''FER - they spend billions of our tax dollars to install them, then spend billions or trillions more to get rid them.

[libsluv2spit]

Yep, that is true; and almost all of them installed by former NEOCON guys who think that might is right...

Plus they get a TWO''''FER - they spend billions of our tax dollars to install them, then spend billions or trillions more to get rid them.


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Posted by boatdocster at 03:15 PM : Jul 11, 2008
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i think you are talking about that liberal political strategy of "political correctness" meaning instead of feeling the wrath of the liberal masses..we use proxy armies instead of using the full potential of our own military..BY THE WAY, ARE THE LIBERALS STILL FIGHTING to make sure that these terrorists are not harmed??

[minnick8-2009]

Some day the world is going to learn that sub-sahara is going to always be like this and nothing can be done to change it.

Posted by dmw1167

Can''t we drop a nuclear bomb on it and put them out of their misery?

[libsluv2spit]

Can''''t we drop a nuclear bomb on it and put them out of their misery?


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Posted by minnick8 at 03:20 PM : Jul 11, 2008
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the liberal masses would not allow that..that would put an end to thier yearly live concerts..

[minnick8-2009]

I cant believe what voters in the US think, It makes no since, There so Dumb downed living in fear of the world like the boogie man is coming to get them. They should be ashamed for what they have done 11 wars and counting
not one of them ever won, But they keep going to war and now there waring has caught up to them and they will suffer like no other. there own Federal Reserve will do to then what it was design to do just like the Romans fall of there empire

Posted by WarDogLRS

I''m sorry WarDogLRS. When I read a post where someone is calling other people dumb, as you just called American voters, I can''t resist correcting errors. Your post above has several, and I''ve corrected them herewith.

I can''t believe what voters in the US think--it makes no sense. They are (or they''re) so dumbed down; they live in fear of the world like the boogie man is coming to get them. They should be ashamed for what they have done in 11 wars and counting; not one of them ever won. However, they keep going to war and now their warring has caught up to them--they will suffer like no other. Their own Federal Reserve will do to them what it was designed to do. They will fall just like the Roman Empire.

WarDog,

I have a question, since our warring is going to catch up to us and we will suffer like no other, does that mean that someone is coming to get us? If so, does that make us dumb? Or does that make us accurate?

[questionnews]

They should be ashamed for what they have done 11 wars and counting not one of them ever won.
Posted by WarDogLRS

Define what winning a war is?
When allied forces make Germany sign the Treaty of Versailles?
Is it when Hitler is buring in a ditch?
Is it when Japan signs surrender papers on the deck of a US war ship?
When Schwarzkopf oversees the surrender of Iraqi military.

And where do you get eleven wars?

War Independance (Justified)
Civil War (Who could have prevented that one?)
WW1 (Justified)
WW2 (Justified)
Korea (There would never been M*A*S*H, at least somthing positive came out of it)
Vietnam (Over 50,000 US Soldiers killed- Total botch job)
Gulf #1 (Justified by the majority)
Gulf #2 (???????????????)

If you are including Greneda & Panama, the word War really doesn''t apply.

[sgtrds10-4]

So, where are the charges for our own dictator Bush? He''''s guilty, too- not of genecide, but of kidnapping, torture and attacking a foreign, sovereign nation under the auspice of a pre-emptive strike. That is just as guilty and as important as the charges against Omar al-Bashir- maybe even more so, since the U.S. is supposed to be ''''big brother" to the other countries. We don''''t set a very good example, at all. And still, Congress does nothing. Nothing-

Posted by RandyNason at 01:36 PM : Jul 11, 2008

Congress may not do anything, but I would strongly support Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc being brought in front of an international war crimes tribunal. I think their conviction would be a "slam dunk".

[sgtrds10-4]

War Independance (Justified)
Civil War (Who could have prevented that one?)
WW1 (Justified)
WW2 (Justified)
Korea (There would never been M*A*S*H, at least somthing positive came out of it)
Vietnam (Over 50,000 US Soldiers killed- Total botch job)
Gulf #1 (Justified by the majority)
Gulf #2 (???????????????)

If you are including Greneda & Panama, the word War really doesn''''t apply.

Posted by Questionnews at 04:00 PM : Jul 11, 2008

War of 1812. Spanish-American war. Two Mexican wars. The Indian wars.

[libsluv2spit]

Congress may not do anything, but I would strongly support Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc being brought in front of an international war crimes tribunal. I think their conviction would be a "slam dunk".


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Posted by SgtRDS10-4 at 04:06 PM : Jul 11, 2008
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how does it feel to be betrayed by the DNC? do you know WHY they are not going ahead with the impeachment process DESPITE the fact that the republican sectors are actually daring them? because it will expose the bullsh*t they had you guys eating off thier DNC hands

[hungry1968]

"Genocide Charges Loom For American President
But US Dismisses ICC Proceedings On Iraq, Reiterates Refusal To Hand Over Members of Bush Administration"

[sgtrds10-4]

I have nothing against their self determination, but they (like Haiti) have proven that they are incapable of competent governance.

Posted by diatreme at 04:14 PM : Jul 11, 2008

Considering the morons in the White House right now perhaps the same could be said about us.

[no2zeebas]

Why did this take so long? We should have went after him long before we went after saddam...

[sgtrds10-4]

Touche. If Obama deosn''''t win in the fall, then you would be 100% correct. That being said, I''''m not a big fan of Obama, I just cannot even consider the McSame alternative.

Posted by diatreme at 04:33 PM : Jul 11, 2008

I was orginally an Edwards supporter, so the transition to Barack wasn''t too difficult for me. That said it the McCain of 2000 was running this year I''d have to give him a more serious look. The McCain of 2008 strikes me as a sell out and slightly senile. He''s less then a shadow of the man he was even 4 or 5 years ago.

[hungry1968]

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ow does it feel to be betrayed by the DNC? do you know WHY they are not going ahead with the impeachment process DESPITE the fact that the republican sectors are actually daring them? because it will expose the bullsh*t they had you guys eating off thier DNC hands

Posted by libsluv2spit at 04:13 PM : Jul 11, 2008





The same reason that they have a 9% approval rating - they don''t have a veto proof majority. That alone prevents an impeachment.

The remaining republicans stymie the ENTIRE congress from "doing the right thing" every time.

Not to worry - that will ALL change in November with the "Democratic Sweep".

[pugster]

Yeah that''s right. Let''s bomb Khartoum, kill another 500,000 innocent people, get another 5 million people to flee, spend 2 trillion dollars, and 4,000 troops die, and 20,000 troops injured.

[hungry1968]

The McCain of 2008 strikes me as a sell out and slightly senile. He''''s less then a shadow of the man he was even 4 or 5 years ago.

Posted by SgtRDS10-4 at 04:38 PM : Jul 11, 2008




He has morphed into George W. McCheney.

[libsluv2spit]

The same reason that they have a 9% approval rating - they don''''t have a veto proof majority. That alone prevents an impeachment.

The remaining republicans stymie the ENTIRE congress from "doing the right thing" every time.

Not to worry - that will ALL change in November with the "Democratic Sweep".


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Posted by hungry1968 at 04:47 PM : Jul 11, 2008
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who vetoed the impeachment process??hell it was the Democrats who retracted the on going ''talk'' of impeachment because they cannot launch such action based on allegations and tabloid style evidence..(read up on that). The republicans would had a field day if that process went along..it would mock the very foundation of why you guys voted the DNC in congress..based on hyped up hollywood style bullsh*t

come Novemeber..the DNC will do to you guys what they always been doing..sticking it up your arse without any descency of using a lubricant..dont you guys ever learn??

[sgtrds10-4]

SgtRDS10-4 .. I like the way you ran away from the last news story because you could not answer my question..

Posted by cornbiker at 06:37 PM : Jul 11, 2008

Go back and read my answer punk.

[xalen54]

At least we are finally doing something about Sudan now. However, what about Serbia & Rwanda? Lets at least go after them as well.

[keithle1]

What a shock. Another GREAT African leader. Another screwed-up African country with a civil war & lots of BIG problems. Everything from A to Z.

Can someone give me a list of sub-Saharan African countries that are run well?

Countries that can stand on their own feet. That don''t need endless aid/money from the West to survive. Where the people of the country are not trying their best to kill each other.

[jd2408]

Just think what could have been if those people had our 2nd amendment.

[libsluv2spit]

Just think what could have been if those people had our 2nd amendment.

Posted by jd2408 at 09:06 PM : Jul 12, 2008
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well africa is a liberal''s stepchild..THAT IS WHY..THEY ALWAYS ARM THE WRONG PEOPLE..aint that right mr bono..oh by the way these regimes needs more money for arms..BEG FOR MORE AID..

[babooph]

Only "just" If the bunch in Israel & the White House are charged with him.If only he is charged no justice or guts will be shown.