McCain, Obama Spar Over Economy

In Dueling Speeches, Candidates Take Shots At Each Others' Economic Recovery Plans

(CBS/ AP)  Barack Obama and John McCain agree on this much: The economy is staggering under the Bush administration, and Americans are hurting. But who's to blame and how best to fix it?

Well, they part ways on that, as they made clear in dueling economic speeches Monday on the issue that has taken center stage in their presidential contest.

Obama said that McCain offers a third term of President Bush's policies.

"John McCain's policies are essentially a repeat, a regurgitation of what we've been hearing from the Republican Party over the last two decades, maybe three," Obama said in St. Louis, where his plane made an unscheduled stop because of mechanical problems that forced him to cancel an appearance in Charlotte, N.C. "It's part of the reason that we're in the situation that we find ourselves in right now."

McCain now supports extending the Bush income tax cuts, even though he once opposed them as too generous to the wealthy, reports CBS News Capitol Hill Correspondent Chip Reid.

Obama's plan is to roll back the Bush tax cuts and use the savings for a middle class tax cut.

A recent study by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center says Obama's plan would give a cut of more than $1,000 dollars to families making between $37,000 and $66,000 a year. Under McCain's plan they'd get just $319, according to the study.

McCain has been forced into a more defensive crouch because his party has held the White House while jobs, home values, stock prices and consumer confidence have tumbled.

While calling Obama's plans expensive and unwise on Monday, he tried to distance himself from President Bush where he could.

"This Congress and this administration have failed to meet their responsibilities to manage the government," McCain said in Denver. "Government has grown by 60 percent in the last eight years. That is simply inexcusable."

He promised to veto "every single bill with wasteful spending."

McCain has said the economy is not his strong suit, and on Monday he seemed eager to show a deeper understanding of the topic, even as he dismissed experts.

"Some economists don't think much of my gas tax holiday," he said of his plan to temporarily suspend the federal levy on motor fuels. "But the American people like it, and so do small business owners."

Obama calls that plan a gimmick that will not lower gasoline prices.

The Democratic senator favors tax cuts for middle-class workers and tax increases for top earners. He calls for substantial government subsidies for health care, college, retirement and alternative energies.

McCain pledges to cut taxes for all and raise them on none. Government should shrink, not grow, he told his audience in Denver.

From a political standpoint, Obama's selling job would seem easier. McCain has linked himself in many ways to the struggling administration, including his call to continue Bush's first-term tax cuts, which he initially opposed.

A recent poll by Democracy Corps, which is run by Democratic strategists, suggests that voters are very much up for grabs on economic issues.

Asked to react to descriptions of the candidates' economic plans, 50 percent said their views more closely resembled McCain's goal of cutting taxes for the middle class and for businesses, simplifying the tax code, maintaining free trade and eliminating government waste.

Forty five percent said their views more closely resembled Obama's goal of cutting taxes for 95 percent of American families, eliminating special tax breaks for big corporations, renegotiating trade treaties, creating jobs by investing in research and education and in new energy sources.

At the same time, 49 percent said their views closely tracked Obama's portrayal of McCain's economic plan as a continuation of "the failed policy of George Bush." Four out of ten said their views were closer to McCain's claims that Obama's plan calls for up to a trillion dollars in new taxes as well as "a massive increase in federal spending, including a federal takeover of health care."

Obama renewed his call Monday for a $50 billion "second stimulus package" that would provide energy rebate checks for many families, a fund to help families avoid foreclosure and increased assistance for states hit especially hard by economic setbacks.

He said he would eliminate income taxes for retirees making less than $50,000 a year. People still working, he said in remarks he had planned to give in Charlotte, would be automatically enrolled "in a workplace pension plan that stays with you from job to job. And for working families who earn under $75,000, we will start that nest egg for you by matching 50 percent of the first $1,000 you save and depositing it directly into your account."

McCain's plans include doubling the child tax deduction from $3,500 to $7,000 "for every dependent." He also cited his plans to cut the estate tax, although Democrats note that it applies to few Americans.

McCain would provide refundable tax credits of $2,500 for individuals, and $5,000 for families, for all those who buy health insurance. Employer contributions toward health insurance would be treated as income, meaning workers would have to pay income taxes on it, but not payroll taxes.

Obama says that plan would seriously undermine the employer-based system that provides health insurance to about 158 million workers. He would require most employers to provide health care for their workers or pay into a national health care plan.

McCain said Obama's plan would hurt small businesses and hamper job creation.

McCain restated his support of free trade, though acknowledging it "is not a positive for everyone." He promised to retrain workers who lose their jobs to overseas plants.

Obama has said he would revisit major trade pacts such as the North America Free Trade Agreement. He said in Monday's prepared remarks that he believes in free trade, but the cause is not helped "when we pass trade agreements that hand out favors to special interests and do little to help workers who have to watch their factories close down. There is nothing protectionist about demanding that trade spreads the benefits of globalization as broadly as possible."

In Denver, McCain repeated his call to build at least 45 new nuclear plants, which he said "will create over 700,000 good jobs to construct and operate them."

Obama has said he would consider nuclear energy as part of a broader approach to energy production, which would emphasize renewable fuels.

[clovisbuford]

I do not trust someone who has not served his country proudly,in some form or another, or who feels ''''obligated'''' to wear a USA pin ( as opposed to having it on only in question) or to be at a Church that hates Americans for over 20 years. Period.
Posted by Ariel133 at 04:06 PM : Jul 08, 2008
Never mind that serving as a community activist amongst the poor, 8 years in the chicago legislature, doesnt count for you as "service" .Never mind that while you disagree with reverend wright ,he was a marine veteran who actually served on a presidential medical team(america hater that he is) ,never mind I bet you voted against Kerry and his military service. We are living failed republican policies in congress since 1994,In control of all 3 branches for 6 year our national debt has doubled in 8 years.the price of oil is up 700% in 8 years.There are 45 MILLION unisured Americans.Americans dont have the luxury of saying I dont like his looks ,or his name ,we are engaged in a battle for our survival .The plain fact Americans know we might not survive 4 more years of republicans in charge,much less 8 .

[taotxzen]

Just How Ignorant Are American Voters?
By: bluegal @ 1:15 PM - PDT

Bob Edwards Radio.com explores Rick Shenkman%u2019s new book, %u201CJust How Stupid Are We?: Facing the Truth About the American Voter%u201C:

%u2013Only 2 in 5 voters can name the three branches of the federal government.

%u2013Only 1 in 7 can find Iraq on a map.

%u2013Only 1 in 5 know that there are 100 federal senators.

%u2013And 9 in 10 actually know Obama is not a Muslim!

[kansas1946]

A recent study by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center says Obama''s plan would give a cut of more than $1,000 dollars to families making between $37,000 and $66,000 a year. Under McCain''s plan they''d get just $319, according to the study.
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Wouldn''t it be novel that the middle class might get a break for once.

[kansas1946]

(CBS/ AP) Barack Obama and John McCain agree on this much: The economy is staggering under the Bush administration, and Americans are hurting. But who''s to blame and how best to fix it?

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Well it is pretty easy to say who is to blame. For six years the Republicans had control of the house, the senate, and the Whitehouse. They started that six years with the largest surplus in history. They spent like drunken sailors, and spent, and spent, and spent. Republicans are not conservatives, they are big spenders and they will never be able to say anything different. They can''t blame Democrats because for once, they didn''t have to put up with any democrats. They had their chance to prove that they really were the party of fiscal discipline, and they bombed. It was a port feeding frenzy. Like sharks in a chum pool, they just went mad.

[j-whitman]

Ariel133,,, You would rather keep trusting McCain who has lied on every issue including the Wars ??

[ariel133]

I do not trust someone who has not served his country proudly,in some form or another, or who feels ''obligated'' to wear a USA pin ( as opposed to having it on only in question) or to be at a Church that hates Americans for over 20 years. Period.

[zerato-2009]

And if McCain gets in he is going to bribe us with 300.00 cash advances like Bush did. Republicans dont'''' seem to mind using tax dollars to pay billions of dollars in interest to foreign countries.

Posted by truthmatterz

I looked at the economic program of mccain, if we dare call it a economic program, and I see nohitng taht will pay for it. Just another large give away taht the US will have to borrow to pay for.

[sandyu73]

****************** Statistics show that conservatives are more likely to get abortions (they just don''''t have the courage to admit it publicly)


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Posted by truthmatterz at 03:06 PM : Jul 08, 2008



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FACTS ONLY PLEASE!
PLEASE BACK UP YOUR STATISTICS! IM INTERESTED!

[mgeg1]

50% of Americans agree with a fiscal policy that benefits 1% of the people harms the other 99%? People are dumb, it''s the major flaw of democracy.

[dnsallday]

C.. Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.

D. In three generations, there will be no Democrats.

***- I love it when a plan comes together.

Posted by sandyu73
******************************************************** Statistics show that conservatives are more likely to get abortions (they just don''t have the courage to admit it publicly)

[dnsallday]

He has been borrowing from japan and china quite a bit. 4.5 trillion.

Posted by Zerato at 02:59 PM : Jul 08, 2008
*********************************************************** And if McCain gets in he is going to bribe us with 300.00 cash advances like Bush did. Republicans dont'' seem to mind using tax dollars to pay billions of dollars in interest to foreign countries.

That is one reason I support Obama. Republicans are too irresponsible. I would like to see some investment in our own country. I would like to see a decrease in the corporate welfare (and let them take a little personal responsibility for a change).

[zerato-2009]

The only reason Bush has been able to get by without visually raising taxes is by cutting domestic programs.
Posted by hotpaulie

He has been borrowing from japan and china quite a bit. 4.5 trillion.

[dnsallday]

mike071067 ......educate yourself and google ''McCain lies'', covering them all will keep you busy for a long, long time.
Unless you have the courage to admit you are supporting a well documented liar and that honesty and integrity on not important to you.

[sandyu73]

The Plan

A.. Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.

B.. Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.

C.. Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.

D. In three generations, there will be no Democrats.

***- I love it when a plan comes together.

[ariel133]

WE honor you, McCain and praise you for your patriotic efforts in serving this country as a true American. There is no better choice than to elect a candidate who has done just this.

[steeepe]

johnmcsame at 01:02 PM --

Thanks for your 18 Hannity, O''Reilly, Limbaugh, Rove talking points. Now how about some facts!

[dnsallday]

The only reason Bush has been able to get by without visually raising taxes is by cutting domestic programs.

Posted by hotpaulie at
********************************************************* They don''t care about making any investment in this country. Republicans could give a fig for this country, all they care about is how fast they can get the wealth from this country into their grimy little hands and holding onto their positions so they can continue to have power over the people.

[hotpaulie]

guess what america? Taxes have to be increased somewhere to compensate for all the money leaving the country and going to Iraq and afghanistan. We have two wars going on and our federal deficit is ridiculous. No matter who is President next, he will have to raise funds somehow. The only reason Bush has been able to get by without visually raising taxes is by cutting domestic programs.

[johnmcsame]

The reason voters will not elect Hussein:

1. They don''''t want a candidate that has been in a twenty year relationship with Reverend Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.
2. They don%u2019t%u2019 want a candidate that has a twenty year relationship with Father Pflaeger as his compass in life
3. They don%u2019t want a candidate that went to a church that supports Louis Farrakhan, an anti Semitic racist.
4. They don''''t want to defend Black Liberation theology.
5. They don%u2019t want a candidate that lies about his relationship with Tony Rezko, the Syrian Criminal that sold his property to Obama and supported his campaign.
6. They don''''t want a candidate that could work with a domestic terrorist, William Ayers.
7. They don%u2019t want a candidate that Hamas supports.
8. They don%u2019t want a candidate that Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam support
9. They don%u2019t want a candidate that has a wife that has just now realized she was proud of our country.
10. They don%u2019t want a candidate that denies Florida and Michigan their voices

[johnmcsame]

11. They don%u2019t want a candidate that mentions 57 states in his speeches. 50 states in the USA and 57 states in the Nation of Islam (IOC website)
12. They don%u2019t want a candidate that fights unfair and steals Michigan delegate votes from his opponent.
13. They don%u2019t want a candidate that feels sorry to leave a church that is anti American and that preaches hatred
14. They don''t want a candidate that is inexperienced.
15. They don%u2019t want a candidate that considers it a loss to not to be able to attend his anti American, racist Church.
16. They don%u2019t want a candidate that has a %u201Cnon practicing%u201D Muslim father, but avoids the entire discussion of his father.
17. They don%u2019t%u2019 want a candidate that won%u2019t debate
18. They don%u2019t want a candidate that has done nothing for humanity except talk about it.