MEXICO CITY, July 2, 2008

Mexican Police Torture Videos Cause Uproar

Cops Say Practicing Harsh Techniques On Each Other Is Essential Training In Drug War

  • In this video still taken from the web site of the El Heraldo de Leon on Tuesday July 1, 2008, a policeman undergoes a torture session by fellow officers during a training session for an elite unit in the city of Leon, Mexico. Several videos, first obtained by the Heraldo de Leon newspaper, have created an uproar in Mexico as police struggle with recent scandals over abuses. Photo

    In this video still taken from the web site of the El Heraldo de Leon on Tuesday July 1, 2008, a policeman undergoes a torture session by fellow officers during a training session for an elite unit in the city of Leon, Mexico. Several videos, first obtained by the Heraldo de Leon newspaper, have created an uproar in Mexico as police struggle with recent scandals over abuses.  (AP/El Heraldo de Leon)

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(AP)  Videos showing Leon police practicing torture techniques on a fellow officer and dragging another through vomit at the instruction of a U.S. adviser created an uproar Tuesday in Mexico, which has struggled to eliminate torture in law enforcement.

Two of the videos - broadcast by national television networks and displayed on newspaper Internet sites - showed what Leon city Police Chief Carlos Tornero described as training for an elite unit that must face "real-life, high-stress situations," such as kidnapping and torture by organized crime groups.

But many Mexicans saw a sinister side, especially at a moment when police and soldiers across the country are struggling with scandals over alleged abuses.

"They are teaching police ... to torture!" read the headline in the Mexico City newspaper Reforma.

Human rights investigators in Guanajuato state, where Leon is located, are looking into the tapes, and the National Human Rights Commission also expressed concerned.

"It's very worrisome that there may be training courses that teach people to torture," said Raul Plascencia, one of the commission's top inspectors.

One of the videos, first obtained by the newspaper El Heraldo de Leon, shows police appearing to squirt water up a man's nose - a technique once notorious among Mexican police. Then they dunk his head in a hole said to be full of excrement and rats. The man gasps for air and moans repeatedly.

In another video, an unidentified English-speaking trainer has an exhausted agent roll into his own vomit. Other officers then drag him through the mess.

"These are no more than training exercises for certain situations, but I want to stress that we are not showing people how to use these methods," Tornero said.

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These are no more than training exercises for certain situations, but I want to stress that we are not showing people how to use these methods.

Chief Carlos Tornero,
Leon city Police
He said the English-speaking man was part of a private U.S. security company helping to train the agents, but he refused to give details.

A third video transmitted by the Televisa network showed officers jumping on the ribs of a suspect curled into a fetal position in the bed of a pickup truck. Tornero said that the case, which occurred several months earlier, was under investigation and that the officers involved had disappeared.

Mexican police often find themselves in the midst of brutal battles between drug gangs. Officials say that 450 police, soldiers and prosecutors have lost their lives in the fight against organized crime since December 2006.

At the same time, several recent high-profile scandals over alleged thuggery and ineptness have reignited criticism of police conduct. In Mexico City last month, 12 people died in a botched police raid on a disco.

The National Human Rights Commission has documented 634 cases of military abuse since President Felipe Calderon sent more than 20,000 soldiers across the nation to battle drug gangs.

And $400 million in drug-war aid for Mexico that was just signed into law by President Bush doesn't require the U.S. to independently verify that the military has cleaned up its fight, as many American lawmakers and Mexican human rights groups had insisted.

The videos may seem shocking, but training police to withstand being captured is not unusual, said Robert McCue, the director of the private, U.S. firm IES Interactive Training, which provides computer-based training systems in Mexico.

"With the attacks on police and security forces in Mexico that have increased due to the drug cartel wars, I'm not surprised to see this specialized kind of training in resisting and surviving captivity and torture," he said.

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by harpoot July 2, 2008 4:48 AM PDT
They should practice on Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Rumsfeld and Kindasleazy since they think it''s so great.
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by watcher269-2009 July 2, 2008 4:56 AM PDT
This could be you with the New FISA bill being passed.

The U.S. does send people (terrorists) to Mexico too to be tortured. Didn''t you know that?
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by neo267-2009 July 2, 2008 6:12 AM PDT
It''s not torture if you volunteer to have it done to you. And it''s not torture if it doesn''t cause permanent harm.
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by brianbwb-2009 July 2, 2008 6:31 AM PDT
"These are no more than training exercises for certain situations, but I want to stress that we are not showing people how to use these methods," Tornero said."

Which is the bigger lie?

Survey says, (beep!) They both are!
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by patriot12436 July 2, 2008 6:38 AM PDT
ner267
Spoken like a true politician.
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by chad55555 July 2, 2008 7:11 AM PDT
Until each local area sets an investigation system to check out their police,it will get worse.THERE ONLY HUMAN BUT WE TEND TO PUT DOCTORS,RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND POLICE ABOVE THE LAW LIKE THEY CAN DO NO WRONG.YOU CALL THEM AMAMERICA''S FINEST,THAT GIVE THEM THE IDEA THEY CAN DO ANYTHING AND GET BY WITH IT.99% ARE GREAT PEOPLE BUT THAT 1% CAN MAKE THEM ALL LOOK BAD. IT''S THE SAME WORLD WIDE. NEED BETTER SYSTEM FOR CHECKING OUT ABUSE CASES,INTERNAL INVESTIGATION IS LIKE GIVING THE FOX THE JOB OF FINDING OUT WHY NO CHICKENS ARE IN THE CHICKEN HOUSE. STILL NOT AS BAD AS SOME AREAS IN THE WORLD.
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by libh8er July 2, 2008 7:50 AM PDT
Blackwater, no doubt.
Posted by Nancy_Naive at 05:59 AM : Jul 02, 2008

Yeah...and Halliburtin. (Visualize No Liberals)
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by gkc99 July 2, 2008 7:52 AM PDT
"And it''''s not torture if it doesn''''t cause permanent harm. "--Posted by Neo267


So this electric cattle prod we''re going to shove up your a$$ isn''t torture at all! Hope you like it!


Visualize no more Bushit Neocon scum! Typical Fascist.
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by terrorislamo July 2, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
HUSSEIN BELONGED TO A CHURCH THAT DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITE US,,,

HUSSEIN STAFFS HIS CAMPAIGN WITM MEMBERS OF THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY THAT DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN STAFFS HIS CAMPAIGN WITM MEMBERS OF THE NATION OF TERRORISLAM THAT DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN IS A RACIST WHICH DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN IS A BIGOT WHICH DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN IS A ANTI-JEW WHICH DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN IS A ANTI-AMERICAN WHICH DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,
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by terrorislamo July 2, 2008 8:31 AM PDT
FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM IS THE PROBLEM,,,

DEMONIC-RAT HUSSEIN IS NOT THE SOLUTION,,,
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by terrorislamo July 2, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
REAL AMERICAN STORIES

http://www.realamericanstories.com/
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by terrorislamo July 2, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
Posted by curse914 at 08:39 AM : Jul 02, 2008

ummmmm many countries have the death penalty for drug possession,,,
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by faith_in_w July 2, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
curse914, no they wont they will just become legitamate. Just stop doing drugs and they will dissolve.
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by coppertales July 2, 2008 9:14 AM PDT
Once a third world country, always a third world country, except when they forget they used to be a 4th world country....
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by mcvet July 2, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
ummmmm many countries have the death penalty for drug possession,,,

Posted by terrorislamo at 08:42 AM : Jul 02, 2008
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Yeah?? Which of them would YOU like to live in Swastika Breath! Now put on your hood and sheet! Let''s hear ya! SIEG HEIL BUSH!! Come on now, you won''t get that Confederate Flag Pin like that. YOU have to let people KNOW you are a Nazi! SIEG HEIL GRAND WIZARD! thatta boy!!
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by kuei12 July 2, 2008 9:32 AM PDT
Better get used to it. When north america becomes the North American Union this will be standard practice under the NEW WORLD ORDER. Your rights and consitution will be flushed down the toilet as they have been for the past 7 years by the bush administration. There will be no Mexico, Canada or united states as you know it. This will all be flushed away and you will be governed by martial law. Don''t believe it? Educate yourselves on The New World order (NWO) or just sit back and wait for it to happen. The choice is still yours people. Don''t wait for Ted Koppel to bring you the news at dinner time. By then it will be too late.
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by faith_in_w July 2, 2008 9:33 AM PDT
zoe2006, whats wrong? Cant score your drugs now?
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by froztybomb July 2, 2008 9:38 AM PDT
HUSSEIN BELONGED TO A CHURCH THAT DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITE US,,,

HUSSEIN STAFFS HIS CAMPAIGN WITM MEMBERS OF THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY THAT DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN STAFFS HIS CAMPAIGN WITM MEMBERS OF THE NATION OF TERRORISLAM THAT DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN IS A RACIST WHICH DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN IS A BIGOT WHICH DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN IS A ANTI-JEW WHICH DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

HUSSEIN IS A ANTI-AMERICAN WHICH DIVIDES US RATHER THAN UNITES US,,,

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Posted by terrorislamo


Was there even a point to that post...?
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by faith_in_w July 2, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
zoe2006, this entire story is on Mexico not Somalia. See what drugs do to you? Time to stop, find Jesus, and live the good life.
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by floydzepp2 July 2, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
zoe2006, this entire story is on Mexico not Somalia. See what drugs do to you? Time to stop, find Jesus, and live the good life.

Posted by faith_in_W at 09:53 AM : Jul 02, 2008
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Jesus died and was buried. They found his tomb.
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by floydzepp2 July 2, 2008 9:56 AM PDT
Posted by terrorislamo


Was there even a point to that post...?

Posted by FroztyBomb at 09:38 AM : Jul 02, 2008
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Terror Whamo is a spammer.
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by faith_in_w July 2, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
zoe2006, no Zimbabwae is racial violence where they blacks beat and kill white farmers. I saw a 700 club show recently on this. Pat was really upset. Anyways just say no to drugs from now on, OK?
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by pensacola88 July 2, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
Mexican Police Officers have been the most under-trained, under-armed and under-prepared to fight the narco-terrorists. The video might be disturbing, but it is a reality about what Drug Cartels are exposing to the Mexican citizens who don''t lie or cover for them. Last month, the drug cartels murdered the Chief of Police for Mexico City in plain sight over a retaliation for arresting known drug dealers.
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by faith_in_w July 2, 2008 10:19 AM PDT
zoe2006, he wasnt related to me. Just repeat to yourself "Drugs are bad".
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by faith_in_w July 2, 2008 10:22 AM PDT
zoe2006, two days ago was the last incident.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/144093
Maybe you should watch FOXNews. They are fair and balanced and would report black on white crime.
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by ponco seno July 2, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
BOY! an I tought NAVY SEALS are the toughest folks around, and this guys are just cops.
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by questionnews July 2, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
"Mexican Police Torture Videos Cause Uproar"

Forcing people to watch Telemundu should be banned by the UN!

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by faith_in_w July 2, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
zoe2006, get off the drugs and read the link I posted.
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by lochlan-2009 July 2, 2008 11:37 AM PDT
"and dragging another through vomit at the instruction of a U.S. adviser"

Our government is making us so proud to be American.
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by seis-6-six July 2, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
Looks Like the U.S. Is Training to Torture foreigners in foreign lands. Since it is illegal stateside
theres always a way to get around that,
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by libsluv2spit July 2, 2008 4:12 PM PDT
Our government is making us so proud to be American.


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Posted by lochlan at 11:37 AM : Jul 02, 2008
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you are a typical american hating liberal..btw..when were you ever proud of this country??
"He said the English-speaking man was part of a private U.S. security company helping to train the agents, but he refused to give details."
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by longduck69 July 2, 2008 8:33 PM PDT
Why is everyone in an uproar over this issue of torture? Every country practices torture. Even the Good ''Ole USA practices torture. Get over it! I think we need to evolve more, bring more people into the 21st century and educate the masses. Only then will we stop torturing each other.
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by whiskyrocker July 3, 2008 7:09 AM PDT
Some suspects need tortured.
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by erasmus81 July 3, 2008 12:59 PM PDT
"There will be no Mexico, Canada or united states as you know it. This will all be flushed away and you will be governed by martial law."
Posted by kuei12 at 09:32 AM : Jul 02, 2008

AIN''T going to happen. At least not with Canada. The Canadian people will NOT let that happen.
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by libsluv2spit July 4, 2008 1:41 PM PDT
The Canadian people will NOT let that happen.

Posted by erasmus81 at 12:59 PM : Jul 03, 2008
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canadians cant do sh*t!
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