HOUSTON, June 30, 2008

No Charges For Man Who Killed Burglars

Grand Jury Clears Texas Man Who Shot Two Men Who Allegedly Broke Into His Neighbor's House

    • This undated photo released by Lambright & Lambright law office in Houston, shows Joe Horn who allegedly fatally shot two suspected burglars on Nov. 14, 2007. Horn, 62, was cleared by a grand jury Monday, June 30, 2008, for shooting to death two men he suspected of burglarizing his neighbor's home.

      This undated photo released by Lambright & Lambright law office in Houston, shows Joe Horn who allegedly fatally shot two suspected burglars on Nov. 14, 2007. Horn, 62, was cleared by a grand jury Monday, June 30, 2008, for shooting to death two men he suspected of burglarizing his neighbor's home.  (AP PHOTO)

    • Police outside of crime scene where 911-caller Joe Horn shot two burglary suspects on Nov. 14, 2007.

      Police outside of crime scene where 911-caller Joe Horn shot two burglary suspects on Nov. 14, 2007.  (KHOU)

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(AP)  A suburban Houston homeowner was cleared by a grand jury Monday for shooting to death two men he suspected of burglarizing his neighbor's home.

Joe Horn, 62, shot the two men in November after he saw them crawling out the windows of a neighbor's house in the Houston suburb of Pasadena, carrying bags of the neighbor's possessions.

Horn, a retired grandfather, called 911 and told the dispatcher he had a shotgun and was going to kill them. The dispatcher pleaded with him not to go outside, but Horn confronted the men with a 12-gauge shotgun and shot both in the back.

"The message we're trying to send today is the criminal justice system works," Harris County District Attorney Kenneth Magidson told reporters at the courthouse.

Horn's attorney, Tom Lambright, said his client was relieved by the grand jury's decision and never wanted to hurt anyone.

"He wasn't trying to take matters into his own hands," Lambright said. "He was scared. He was not playing cowboy."

Horn did not speak with reporters on Monday.

A large red sign with the words "No Trespass" on it blocked the path to his front door and a handwritten sign on the door said "Please no media" "No Trespassing" and "Do not knock or ring bell." A couple of neighbors also had signs on their doors asking media to leave them alone.

A few police cars patrolled the area near Horn's home.

Lambright reiterated to reporters that Horn believed the two men had broken into his neighbor's home and that he shot them out of fear for his life when they came into his yard and threatened him.

"He wasn't acting like a vigilante," Lambright said. "He was well within his rights to do what he was doing."

The two suspected burglars, Hernando Riascos Torres, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30, were unemployed illegal immigrants from Colombia. Torres was deported to Colombia in 1999 after a 1994 cocaine-related conviction.

The incident touched off protests from civil rights activists who said the shooting was racially motivated and that Horn took the law into his own hands. Horn's supporters defended his actions, saying he was protecting himself and being a good neighbor to a homeowner who was out of town.

"I understand the concerns of some in the community regarding Mr. Horn's conduct," Magidson said. "The use of deadly force is carefully limited in Texas law to certain circumstances ... In this case, however, the grand jury concluded that Mr. Horn use of deadly force did not rise to a criminal offense."

The city of Pasadena, where protesters and defenders of Horn engaged in counter-demonstrations, pledged to keep its police force staffed enough to protect its citizens.

"The obvious lessons that can be drawn from (the Horn case) are that criminal activities are inherently a dangerous lifestyle, and the prevention and pursuit of those involved in criminal actions are best left to the police," said the statement issued by city spokeswoman Jennifer Banks.

Magidson said nine of the 12 grand jurors would have had to vote in favor of an indictment in order for Horn to be charged.

Grand jurors had to consider two issues: the intentional killing of another person and whether the killing was justified either by self defense or the defense of property, Magidson said.

Horn testified before the grand jury for about 1½ hours last week, Lambright said.

Keith Hampton, a Houston attorney not connected with the case, said he didn't expect Horn to be indicted.

"This is a real conservative county," he said. "A lot of folks in Houston and Harris County are saying this man was doing a good thing."

In the 911 call, a dispatcher urges Horn to stay inside his house and not risk lives

"Don't go outside the house," the 911 operator pleaded. "You're gonna get yourself shot if you go outside that house with a gun. I don't care what you think."

"You wanna make a bet?" Horn answered. "I'm gonna kill 'em."

After the shooting, he redialed 911.

"I had no choice," he said, his voice shaking. "They came in the front yard with me, man. I had no choice. Get somebody over here quick."

Lambright said the 911 call gave the public the wrong impression about Horn and what happened that day.

"It's a very sad thing that occurred," Lambright said of the shootings.

Texas law allows people to use deadly force to protect themselves if it is reasonable to believe they are in mortal danger. In limited circumstances, people also can use deadly force to protect their neighbor's property; for example, if a homeowner asks a neighbor to watch over his property while he's out of town.

It's not clear whether the neighbor whose home was burglarized asked Horn to watch over his house.


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by Meg003 July 2, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
Justice

If one of my sons had chosen to live a lawless, criminal life, I would be devastated to think I brought such a person into the world. I would feel terrible knowing he was living a life detrimental to his community, instead of contributing his strengths or skills to his neighbors with honest labor. I would feel the same way if he wasted his life as a drug addict, and probably, if he were a thief, he would be a substance abuser.

But if he did violate people''s homes and get himself shot or get put in prison after killing someone while DUI, I would not blame anyone but my son.
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by justice_4_u July 2, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
He went outside with the intent on killing. What if it was your seventeen year old white teen stealing an xbox or playstation three? would the grand jury let him slide with that back shooting mad man? and would this forum still feel he''s a hero?
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by edgardebbins July 2, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
Diane Sawyer was whining her way through an inverview with Horn on Good Morning America. She bellyached all she could, but didn''t break his determination. I have absolutely no problem with splattering burglars, but please do what you can to get them to be facing you when you splash em.
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by jboxton July 2, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
I LOVE this guy and this story. Shows how pathetic and ridiculous liberals are in defending CRIMINALS. The more illegal aliens we take out (in my opinion) the better. Innocent or not. As far as this case goes, it''s a no brainer.
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by cepe10-2009 July 2, 2008 3:44 PM EDT
Hope this gutless coward Joe Horn lives in fear the rest of his life. If I am ever in the area I will be sure to defend myself against this lunatic.;)
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by justice_4_u July 2, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
I think we should just iliminate Texas from our union and let those people run thier third world country killing people for stealing. Let them fight with Mexicans while we civilized people move on with the real issues
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by justice_4_u July 2, 2008 3:16 PM EDT
what if the old trigger happy old timer shot your seventeen year old white kid stealing an xbox or playstation out your neighbors house?, would that be justified? Would your attitude of this trigger happy basteerd be the same?
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by whatisit21 July 2, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
Houston and surrounding areas are a hotbed for crime. Everyday somebody in robbed, carjacked, raped and murdered. One day a man is killed for his cell phone outside a crowded restaurant with children as witnesses. The next day, a pregnant woman is carjacked and stabbed to death. Most of the crimes are random. Somebody might stop at a store to get a soda and then get shot and carjacked when they return to their car. How long do people have to live in fear because liberal laws allow criminals the benefit of the doubt while the dead victim''s children grow up without a parent?

Joe Horn did what a lot of Houstonians want to do because they are fed up with the crime. while civil rights groups are on the side of criminals, something has to protect law abiding citizens like the right to keep and bear arms.
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by nothappyatall July 2, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
What if this trigger happy idiot shot two white teen kids just steeling xboxes or playstations?

Posted by Justice_4_U

"JUST" stealing xboxes? JUST??? oh, and so if the shoe was on the other foot and these illegal convicted drug dealers were breaking into *YOUR* house- endangering you and YOUR family I''d bet things would be vastly different!
What if the thugs had broken in and raped/killed the homeowner in the process of their "just stealing"?
How did or would anyone know that maybe someone in the house was asleep home sick with the flu or something when the thugs broke in, was surprised by them and stabbed to death?
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by nothappyatall July 2, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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by patriot12436 July 2, 2008 6:54 AM EDT
I keep noticing how the whiners run away and hide when you confront them with real facts.
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by patriot12436 July 2, 2008 6:52 AM EDT
justice
Just have to play the race card don''t you ? What if he had been black and they had been white, what would you be saying. I don''t care what any of the races were that were involved. He erased two scum from society that shouldn''t be ther inthe first place. Yes times are getting hard and you will see tough justice coming back in the near future.
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by justice_4_u July 2, 2008 5:17 AM EDT
If this old timer racist Texas **** would have shot two seventeen year old white teens, I''m pretty sure this grand jury would have hung this trigger happy ***
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by justice_4_u July 2, 2008 5:07 AM EDT
What if this trigger happy idiot shot two white teen kids just steeling xboxes or playstations?

Would people be calling him a hero. He went outside to kill.

Carma is a ***
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by patriot12436 July 2, 2008 3:36 AM EDT
pensacola
I think Texas sent a clear message to the relatives that their chance of winning a civil suit in Texas is as much likely as a snow ball in hell.
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by pensacola88 July 2, 2008 3:28 AM EDT
A military person with a weapon enters a combat zone. They see an opponent. Our military is required to confirm the hostile intent of the opponent against the military, before justifying use of deadly force against them.

In Texas, a citizen witnesses a crime. It is not a combat zone, and the suspect is not commiting a crime against the witnesses property, but in this case, the witness declared their fear justified their right to use deadly force against two suspects.

The law in Texas practically declared the entire state is a combat zone and every citizen can use deadly force to stop any crime, simply because the citizen has fear.

While the criminals can''t sue the shooter, the neighbor can, and so can the relatives of the shooter. In Texas, the property owner being robbed can be sued by the relatives of the burglars and the relatives have a very winnable case, since the shooter deprived the burglars access to counsel before killing them. The shooter can be sued in civil court and be forced to pay for wrongful death judgement. A civil court won''t extend protection to the shooter as a criminal court would.

I am afraid the shooters problems have not begun to stop over the incident.

He may have stopped the crime, but the problems will haunt him for years. There will be no peace in that man''s life if he has only half a conscience.

The shooter will be more than willing to change places with those wanting to give him a medal.
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by nssherlock1 July 2, 2008 2:23 AM EDT
Clearly he was trying to shoot them in the @ss just like in cartoons. He had no way of knowing that both of them were lead-intolerant. They must have died from an allergic reaction.
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by patriot12436 July 2, 2008 1:44 AM EDT
We had a saying in Nm. Only two kinds of people are not afraid when facing death, fools and liars, don''t want either beside me in a combat situation.
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by patriot12436 July 2, 2008 1:42 AM EDT
sparty088
Have you ever had someone confront you with a weapon ? If not then you cannot say how you will react.
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by carolcape July 2, 2008 1:35 AM EDT
Just a note to say, obviously the law in Texas calls for being able to shoot someone who is attempting to enter or break into your home. I imagine crime was on the rise so badly that this law had to be made. Thank your stars you guys in Texas, at least you can sleep well knowing you are protected in some way from criminals.
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