AMMAN, Jordan, June 13, 2008

U.S.-Iraq Security Talks Hit "Dead End"

Iraqi PM Says U.S. Demands Are Unacceptable And Violate Iraq's Sovereignty

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    Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki said Friday of the failed security talks with the United States: The American demands "violate Iraqi sovereignty. At the end, we reached a dead end."  (AP)

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(CBS/ AP)  Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki says talks with the United States on a long-term security agreement have reached a "dead end."

Al-Maliki says the talks slumped because each side refused the other's demands.

He says the initial framework agreed upon was to have been an accord "between two completely sovereign states. But he says the U.S. proposals "do not take into consideration Iraq's sovereignty."

The prime minister said Friday "this is not acceptable." The American demands "violate Iraqi sovereignty. At the end, we reached a dead end."

Washington and Baghdad have been negotiating behind closed doors a deal that would give U.S. troops legal grounds for an extended stay in Iraq after a U.N. mandate expires Dec. 31.

In other developments:

  • Iraqi cleric Muqtada al-Sadr is calling for restraint in an apparent bid to exert control over his Mahdi Army militia fighters. A statement read after Friday prayers in the holy city of Kufa says the Shiite militia will continue to resist U.S.-led forces in Iraq but fighting should be limited to a select group.

  • U.S. troops also continue to target Sunni insurgents, capturing 18 suspected al Qaeda in Iraq members in a series of raids Thursday and Friday in Baghdad, the northern city of Mosul and surrounding areas, the military said.

    Meanwhile, U.S. troops killed five suspected Shiite gunmen and detained two others Friday in a raid south of Baghdad, according to the U.S. military, and Iraqi police said two civilians were killed when they were caught in the crossfire.

    The troops responded after coming under attack from small-arms fire and grenades as they approached the residence of a "special groups" leader suspected of "running a criminal enterprise" near Hillah, the military said.

    A statement said the main suspect and an associate were detained, five gunmen were killed and several automatic weapons were seized in the raid. The troops were acting on tips from detainees who said the militia leader moved around to avoid capture, it said.

    The U.S. military uses the term "special groups" to refer to Shiite militia fighters who are refusing to follow a cease-fire order by anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

    Capt. Muthanna Khalid, a spokesman for the Babil provincial police, said two civilians, including a woman, were killed and three others wounded during the gunbattle that broke out at about 4 a.m. Hillah is about 60 miles south of Baghdad.

    The U.S. military said it had no reports of civilian casualties.

    U.S. and Iraqi forces have been cracking down on militias in the oil-rich south. But commanders say most of the senior leadership has fled to Iran.

    Iraqi reinforcements arrived in another southern city, Amarah, on Thursday as the military apparently gears up for a new operation following similar offensives in Basra and Baghdad's Sadr City district.

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    by terrorislami June 16, 2008 4:01 AM EDT
    DEMONIC-RATS are evil. Simple as that.

    %u201CThe God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction. That these liberties are the gift of God? The bible is the cornerstone for American liberty.%u201D
    Thomas Jefferson

    %u201CWe have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion.%u201D
    John Adams

    %u201CThe highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.%u201D
    John Quincy Adams

    %u201CWhile the people are virtuous, they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.%u201D
    Samuel Adams

    %u201CWe have staked our future on our ability to follow the 10 Commandments with all our heart.%u201D
    James Madison

    %u201COur country was founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.%u201D
    Patrick Henry

    %u201CThe longer I live, the more convinced I become that God governs in the affairs of men. And have we now forgotten, that powerful friend? Or, do we imagine we no longer need His assistance.%u201D
    Benjamin Franklin

    %u201CYou cannot have national morality apart from religious principle.%u201D
    George Washington
    Reply to this comment
    by nyteryder2 June 15, 2008 11:28 PM EDT
    Ignore terroristislami. He/she is just a troll, a flamer, a baiter.

    As a baiter, he/she is a master.

    Reply to this comment
    by down-ndirty June 15, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
    your posts are very much blindly pro fascist nazi terrorislam,,,
    Posted by terrorislami at 07:18 PM : Jun 15, 2008


    Coming from you, lars/terrorislami, that doesn''t mean *****.

    Your login name terrorislami is very much blindly pro fascist nazi terrorislam...

    What about Reagan and the Hezbollah, islamiterrorist? Did he, or did he not, retaliate?


    ROGLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Reply to this comment
    by terrorislami June 15, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
    Posted by down-ndirty at 06:12 PM : Jun 15, 2008

    your posts are very much blindly pro fascist nazi terrorislam,,,
    Reply to this comment
    by terrorislami June 15, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
    Posted by down-ndirty at 06:40 PM : Jun 15, 2008

    Posted by down-ndirty at 05:28 AM : Jun 14, 2008

    the perians could not pronounce the letter "S" correctly in their native tongue and mispronounced it as "H." Thus, for the ancient Persians, the word "Sindhu" became "Hindu"

    basic Linguistic Lessons. Why people were called Hindus. Basically there is a river called "Sindhu" river mentioned in Vedas, which is now called Indus. The western side of the river, would call the eastern side of the people "Sindhus"

    got it,,, LOL

    hahaha
    Reply to this comment
    by down-ndirty June 15, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
    so haji,,, you are trying to make indians persians now,,, LOL
    hahaha
    is a persian mispronunciation of a sandscipt word sindhu,,, silly perians still cannot pronounce an "S",,, LOL
    hahaha
    Posted by terrorislami at 08:33 PM : Jun 14, 2008
    __________________________________


    "It must be noted here that the term %u2018Hindu%u2019 was first used by Arabs around 2000 years ago and the term Hinduism was coined by European powers that colonized India. ... Before the arrival of foreign powers, Hinduism was known as Sanatana Dharma. Even today, the strict adherents of Hinduism prefer Sanatana Dharma. It must be noted here that the term Hindu or Hinduism is not found in any of ancient scriptures. ... As we dig for the history of Hinduism it only adds to the existing confusion."

    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2007/09/year-of-origin-of-hinduism.html


    haji!!!!! LOL!!!! You crack me up, lars...

    Reply to this comment
    by down-ndirty June 15, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
    stop defending fascist nazi terrorislam,,,
    Posted by terrorislami at 08:34 PM : Jun 14, 2008
    _________________________________

    Nowhere in my posts did I defend fascists, nazis, or terrorists.

    Discussing ideas and opinions with you is like talking to a three-year old with an attitude, except the three-year old is smarter.

    LOL!!! You never did say what Reagan did after the Hezbollah killed 241 U.S. servicemen in Beirut?


    Reply to this comment
    by terrorislami June 15, 2008 10:12 AM EDT
    RACIST CBS PLAYS THE RACE CARD,,,

    CBS Poll: Ready For A Black President?
    Poll Finds That Most Americans Believe The Country Is Ready - And They Didn''t Eight Years Ago
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/04/opinion/polls/main4151937.shtml#ccmm

    ***,,, did we not already have a black president???

    did they not say wet willy kkklowntoon was the first black president???

    hahaha

    are blacks playing the race card on america???

    Obama gets 92 percent of the black vote

    Clyburn Warns Democratic Party: African Americans Matter
    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/25/clyburn_warns_democratic_party.html?hpid=topnews

    POLL: READY FOR A MARXIST PRESIDENT???

    POLL: READY FOR A RACIST PRESIDENT???

    POLL: READY FOR A PRESIDENT THAT BELONGS TO A RACIST ANTI JEW AND ANTI WHITEY CHURCH???

    POLL: READY FOR A PRESIDENT THAT HAD A STAFF MEMBER THAT CONTRIBUTES MONEY TO HAMAS???

    POLL: READY FOR A PRESIDENT THAT HAS HAD MEETINGS WITH HEZBOLLAH???

    POLL: READY FOR A PRESIDENT THAT HAS NATION OF TERRORISLAM MEMBERS ON HIS STAFF???

    POLL: READY FOR A PRO FASCIST NAZI TERRORISLAM PRESIDENT???

    POLL: READY FOR A FOR A PRESIDENT THAT HATES AMERICA???

    POLL: READY FOR A PRESIDENT THAT TOOK THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM PLEDGE TO ONLY REPRESENT AFRICAN AMERICANS???
    Reply to this comment
    by squeezyr-2009 June 15, 2008 7:47 AM EDT
    Comedian George Gobel called himself "Ol'' Lonesome George". It looks like we have another "Ol'' Lonesome George"!!

    With certainty, one could say that the USA is at one (if not the lowest) worst points in its history. George Bush and *** Cheney have simply gone mad with their egomania. They have created the most worthless pile of bad record that anyone could ever amass.

    George''s blatant middle finger at the press, ***''s F... you in the Senate is merely the tip of the iceberg in their inane world. The world is witness.

    America must do something and McBush is not the answer. Perhaps Obama is just ''another'', but he is hope that the Pubbies cannot provide
    Reply to this comment
    by squeezyr-2009 June 15, 2008 7:46 AM EDT
    Comedian George Gobel called himself "Ol'' Lonesome George". It looks like we have another "Ol'' Lonesome George"!!

    With certainty, one could say that the USA is at one (if not the lowest) worst points in its history. George Bush and *** Cheney have simply gone mad with their egomania. They have created the most worthless pile of bad record that anyone could ever amass.

    George''s blatant middle finger at the press, ***''s F... you in the Senate is merely the tip of the iceberg in their inane world. The world is witness.

    America must do something and McBush is not the answer. Perhaps Obama is just ''another'', but he is hope that the Pubbies cannot provide
    Reply to this comment
    by terrorislami June 15, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
    Posted by tryhonesty at 09:53 PM : Jun 14, 2008

    what is so special about iraq???

    why are you not saying,,,

    get out of afghanistan???

    get out of bosnia???

    get out of korea???

    get out of japan???

    get out of germany???

    get out of etc etc etc,,,
    Reply to this comment
    by terrorislami June 15, 2008 1:04 AM EDT
    Posted by down-ndirty at 05:28 AM : Jun 14, 2008

    the perians could not pronounce the letter "S" correctly in their native tongue and mispronounced it as "H." Thus, for the ancient Persians, the word "Sindhu" became "Hindu"

    basic Linguistic Lessons. Why people were called Hindus. Basically there is a river called "Sindhu" river mentioned in Vedas, which is now called Indus. The western side of the river, would call the eastern side of the people "Sindhus"

    got it,,, LOL

    hahaha
    Reply to this comment
    by tryhonesty June 15, 2008 12:53 AM EDT
    Out of Iraq NOW! This war has never been about freedom and liberty. It has been (just like Vietnam) about MONEY. PERIOD. Quit sending our fine men and women in harms way!
    Bush and Cheney were too busy getting drunk and attending college parties, neither served in Vietnam, when Vietnam was fought, no lessons learned.
    Reply to this comment
    by terrorislami June 14, 2008 11:34 PM EDT
    Posted by down-ndirty at 05:52 PM : Jun 14, 2008

    stop defending fascist nazi terrorislam,,,
    Reply to this comment
    by terrorislami June 14, 2008 11:33 PM EDT
    but I do know that "Hindu" is a Persian word
    Posted by down-ndirty at 05:28 AM : Jun 14, 2008

    hahaha

    so haji,,, you are trying to make indians persians now,,, LOL

    hahaha

    is a persian mispronunciation of a sandscipt word sindhu,,, silly perians still cannot pronounce an "S",,, LOL

    hahaha

    and the silliest of them all is mahmoud "monkey boy" ahmadinejad,,,

    hahaha

    Posted by terrorislami at 08:39 AM : Jun 14, 2008

    Posted by down-ndirty at 05:39 PM : Jun 14, 2008

    ummmmmmmmmmmm

    the Indus derives its name from the Sanskrit word, Sindhu

    and persians still cannot pronounce it,,, or an "S",,, LOL

    hahaha
    Reply to this comment
    by down-ndirty June 14, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
    When it comes to someone allowing their wife and children, let alone a country, to be taken hostage through immoral hate racist speeches I think McCain would never let that happen in fact I know he would not, in fact he, McCain proved it he would not.
    Posted by DarkSkyAbove at 05:49 PM : Jun 14, 2008
    ____________________

    What a short memory you have.

    McCain let that exact same scenario happen in 2000. He had beaten Bush in NH by 19 points and, in SC, the Bush Republicans were facing an opponent who was popular for his "straight talk" and Vietnam war record. If McCain won in SC he would probably win the nomination.

    Enter Bush''s campaign slander machine (Rove & company) who used "anonymous push polling" to suggest that McCain''s Bangladeshi born adopted daughter was his illegimate black child.

    "In the conservative, race-conscious South, that''s not a minor charge. We had no idea who made the phone calls, who paid for them, or how many calls were made. Effective and anonymous: the perfect smear campaign."

    The Bob Jones University also had a part in the smear campaign.

    McCain lost in SC and immediately withdrew from the 2000 campaign.

    So much for McCain "never letting that happen."

    Reply to this comment
    by down-ndirty June 14, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
    The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.
    Posted by terrorislami at 04:00 PM : Jun 14, 2008
    ____________________________

    That describes Judaism that existed before and after Christ. Jews had then, and still have now, a "tribal mentality" that all but excludes "outsiders."

    For example, the ten commandments were written by Jews, for Jews, and did not apply to non-Jews.

    It perfectly describes the Puritans and the way they treated anyone, especially the local natives, who didn''t have the same belief system.

    It also describes the christian evangelicals who supported Bush and who now don''t seem to support McCain because he doesn''t believe what they believe.

    Reply to this comment
    by down-ndirty June 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
    What kind of man relies on his wife''''s credit card to get him through campaigns ??? The McCain type.
    Posted by j-whitman at 02:06 PM : Jun 14, 2008
    ___________________________________

    The same kind of man who relied on his wife''s family''s wealth and influencial friends, whick included a man named "Keating", to get him into politics in the first place.

    Keating, as in the "Keating Five." LOL!!!

    Reply to this comment
    by down-ndirty June 14, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
    hahaha
    so haji,,, you are trying to make indians persians now,,, LOL
    hahaha
    Posted by terrorislami at 08:39 AM : Jun 14, 2008
    ____________________________________

    Look up "Indus Valley Civilization" and the regions in which it flourished, including Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, and Iran. You may learn the the Persian word "hindu" is a geographical term that referred to the people inhabiting the area beyond the Indus river. The word "hindu" is not found in early Indian literature, and the word "hinduism" was coined in the 19th century.


    Also, you never commented on the fact that Reagan "lacked courage" to retaliate against the Iranian-backed Hezbollah after they killed 241 U.S. servicemen in Beirut.

    Care to comment?
    Reply to this comment
    by terrorislami June 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
    PATTON

    General Bradley:
    Have you seen the casualty lists?

    Patton:
    Yes, I''ve seen them.

    General Bradley. . .

    . . .it''s time to consider how many
    casualties we''d have. . .

    . . .if we were still crawling on
    that ******* road.

    it is time to consider how much more it will cost if we do not defeat fascist nazi terrorislam,,,
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