AMMAN, Jordan, June 13, 2008
U.S.-Iraq Security Talks Hit "Dead End"
Iraqi PM Says U.S. Demands Are Unacceptable And Violate Iraq's Sovereignty
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Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki said Friday of the failed security talks with the United States: The American demands "violate Iraqi sovereignty. At the end, we reached a dead end." (AP)
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Al-Maliki says the talks slumped because each side refused the other's demands.
He says the initial framework agreed upon was to have been an accord "between two completely sovereign states. But he says the U.S. proposals "do not take into consideration Iraq's sovereignty."
The prime minister said Friday "this is not acceptable." The American demands "violate Iraqi sovereignty. At the end, we reached a dead end."
Washington and Baghdad have been negotiating behind closed doors a deal that would give U.S. troops legal grounds for an extended stay in Iraq after a U.N. mandate expires Dec. 31.
In other developments:
Meanwhile, U.S. troops killed five suspected Shiite gunmen and detained two others Friday in a raid south of Baghdad, according to the U.S. military, and Iraqi police said two civilians were killed when they were caught in the crossfire.
The troops responded after coming under attack from small-arms fire and grenades as they approached the residence of a "special groups" leader suspected of "running a criminal enterprise" near Hillah, the military said.
A statement said the main suspect and an associate were detained, five gunmen were killed and several automatic weapons were seized in the raid. The troops were acting on tips from detainees who said the militia leader moved around to avoid capture, it said.
The U.S. military uses the term "special groups" to refer to Shiite militia fighters who are refusing to follow a cease-fire order by anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Capt. Muthanna Khalid, a spokesman for the Babil provincial police, said two civilians, including a woman, were killed and three others wounded during the gunbattle that broke out at about 4 a.m. Hillah is about 60 miles south of Baghdad.
The U.S. military said it had no reports of civilian casualties.
U.S. and Iraqi forces have been cracking down on militias in the oil-rich south. But commanders say most of the senior leadership has fled to Iran.
Iraqi reinforcements arrived in another southern city, Amarah, on Thursday as the military apparently gears up for a new operation following similar offensives in Basra and Baghdad's Sadr City district.
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Well, Al-Maliki, that''s the definition of a US Puppet Regime.
The Shiites are defying Lord Bush
The Sunnis are defying Lord Bush
The Kurds don''t care about Lord Bush
Mission Accomplished.
THIS IS HARDBALL SHE-MALE HILLARY HERE. ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR DISTRACTION ORDERS FOR YOUR 5 YEARS ULTRA EXPENSIVE WAR FAILURE AND FLOPPED NEGOTIATIONS? JUST KEEP DOING THE HELTER SKELTER NON-SENSICAL FLINGING AND YELLING AROUNG TO EVERY CAMERA I SEE, LIKT IVE BEEN DOING THE LAST YEAR?
JUST BUMP MY PAY UP TO $300K PER DAY AND HALVE WHAT I INDEBTED THE US TAXPAYERS WITH: DOUBLE $20M!! SINCE YOU GOT RICE $1/2M SCREW IN TEETH, MAYBE YOU COULD GET ME A BOWLING PIN FAT-SUCKER FOR MY HIPS AND THUNDER THIGHS.
OVER AND OUT ROGER WILCO.
SHE-MALE HILLARY
He says the initial framework agreed upon was to have been an accord "between two completely sovereign states. But he says the U.S. proposals "do not take into consideration Iraq''s sovereignty."
- Puppet Maliki, just do what Liar935Bush tells ya to do! Hahahaha!
Re: "U.S.-Iraq Security Talks Hit "Dead End"
And they say that they never report the good news coming you of Iraq.
Will the Bush regime be hanging on to the $50 billion in ransom money then?
Congratulations Iraqis!
Good luck!
We''ll see now how important Iraqi "freedom" and "self-determination" really is to the Repugniscum power elite.
Not very.
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Posted by LibH8er at 07:56 AM : Jun 13, 2008
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This incoherent babbling brought to you by the "End Times!" Assistance League.
There is not a liberal in this country worthy of kissing Bush''s arse, but the weakest members of the herd run from Bush. Know what I mean, loser?
There is not a liberal in this country worthy of kissing Bush''''s arse, but the weakest members of the herd run from Bush. Know what I mean, loser?
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Posted by LibH8er at 08:02 AM : Jun 13, 2008
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What a hoot. Everything you RepubliBumpkins touch falls apart. You guys have sure mastered Failure. (insert tears of mitrh here)
I see a lot of very narrow views in this section.
Interns looking after the CBS Web pages again?
Maliki could have easily said all this before his trip to Iran. But now that he made them after his trip to Iran we now know who is really in charged of Iraq.
I''m constantly amazed at how brilliantly Bush''s mind work. He sure knew what he was doing in Iraq.
Not bad for a shrub, eh? The thing is, if Bush is a shrub, that must make ya''ll a weed! LOL
CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE hmm did ya hear that neocons?
Posted by LibH8er
Riiigghhttttt. Until the next big attack.
Posted by rafterman1 at 08:37 AM : Jun 13, 2008
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I read the article. Actually its only two groups, its only reduced, they think they are making progress but its conceded that the problem is far from over.
Its like saying, "The Surge is Working!" - until the next bombing.
A US Air Force Base in Iraq is a strategic location in Middle East theatre of operations.
We lost a strategic location in Iran in 1979 when Iran was overthrown.
Russia and the USA have tried to establish a permanent military base in the region for decades to protect the oil fields.
Why? Because change might be coming. The puppet Al Maliki knows he is a dead man if the troops pull out and he gave away the store to the US without a fight. So now, that Obama may be on the horizon, he is trying to underline the sovereignty which he never had. If Iraq had sovereignty, US mercenaries would never have been allowed to operate there and not face prosecution, nor would other country leaders fly into and out of Iraq without that country''s permission next post
This is what happens when the bully makes out like he really is the good guy and all the people he is hurting are really being "helped" by him. What can we do now? We can force no decision and threatening Al Maliki on what will happen if we withdraw will do no good--Know why? Because they know enough about our politics to know that withdrawal decision will soon NOT be in the hands of Bush anyway and that to align with a fading leader is to fade also. That''s why.
There should be no security deal, no access to oil or oil fields, no American presence at all unless the Iraq people want it--and we do mean the Iraq people, not the few collaborators who have been helping us with no input from the people any more.
Posted by rafterman1 at 08:35 AM : Jun 13, 2008
They want to create that? Reality check: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED-- that hatred and fury was created the minute we started invading and bombing, it is not something we want to do--we''ve already achieved that--and since we can''t replace dead people or reinvent the past--we can''t fix this. Time for us United States Locusts to move on--the hive is calling, like someone else posted--there are other places for us to invade and destroy--our work is done here.
Posted by LibH8er
Riiigghhttttt. Until the next big attack.
Posted by rafterman1 at 08:37 AM : Jun 13, 2008
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I read the article. Actually its only two groups, its only reduced, they think they are making progress but its conceded that the problem is far from over.
Its like saying, "The Surge is Working!" - until the next bombing.
Posted by Floydzeppl at 08:45 AM : Jun 13, 2008
right, we forget, terrorism is not a specific group it is a state of mind followed by heinous actions--a lull, a bout of peace, means nothing, because to start up again, all they have to do is just...start it all up again--they have all the time in the world, and they are not running out of money, they are conserving it--we don''t kill what we don''t know is out there.
Russia and the USA have tried to establish a permanent military base in the region for decades to protect the oil fields.
Posted by Pensacola88 at 08:52 AM : Jun 13, 2008
Two things: The Shah was overthrown, not Iran.
2. And why were we protecting the oil fields? Oh yes--for ourselves, so we could keep the oil affordable and not hamstring our own economy. How''s that working for us, with this war? LMAO
Don''t worry, Nouri al-Maliki -
Shrub-boy and the Cheney Gang will be really busy with impeachment soon...
posted by lib_crusher
lib_crusher, you have facts to back this up? Or is it just wishful thinking.
ZNet looked at five years worth of opinion polls in Iraq and this is what they found:
With similar consistency, Iraqis have voiced strong opposition to the presence of occupation forces. In August 2005, 82 percent were "strongly opposed" to the occupation; in January 2006, 87 percent favored a timeline for withdrawal; a year later, in September 2006, 71 percent wanted a full withdrawal by mid-2007...By August 2007, the percentage "strongly" or "somewhat" opposed to the occupation had stayed more or less the same, increasing slightly to 79 percent.
This progressive rise in popular hostility toward the US-led occupation is confirmed by another crucial statistic: the percentages of Iraqis who approve of insurgent attacks on occupation forces. In January 2006, 47 percent approved of such attacks; by September 2006, the figure had risen to 61 percent; in August 2007, 57 percent continued to approve of such attacks, including 93 percent of Sunnis. The resentment of ordinary Iraqis toward the US goes a long way toward explaining how a small insurgency numbering fewer than 30,000 Iraqis and 800-2,000 foreigners has successfully prevented US-led and Iraqi government forces (which together total over 600,000) from establishing military dominance in Iraq for almost five years.
In the run-up to the invasion, one of the most senior officials in charge of procurement in the Pentagon objected to a contract potentially worth $7bn that was given to Halliburton, a Texan company which used to be run by *** Cheney before he became vice-president.
Unusually only Halliburton got to bid - and won.
Missing billions
The search for the missing billions also led the programme to a house in Acton in west London where Hazem Shalaan lived until he was appointed to the new Iraqi government as minister of defence in 2004.
He and his associates siphoned an estimated $1.2bn out of the ministry. They bought old military equipment from Poland but claimed for top-class weapons.
Meanwhile they diverted money into their own accounts.
Judge Radhi al-Radhi of Iraq''s Commission for Public Integrity investigated.
He said: "I believe these people are criminals.
"They failed to rebuild the Ministry of Defence, and as a result the violence and the bloodshed went on and on - the murder of Iraqis and foreigners continues and they bear responsibility."
Mr Shalaan was sentenced to two jail terms but he fled the country.
He said he was innocent and that it was all a plot against him by pro-Iranian MPs in the government.
There is an Interpol arrest warrant out for him but he is on the run - using a private jet to move around the globe.
He stills owns commercial properties in the Marble Arch area of London.
Once again America establishes a double standard, one set of rules for them and one set of rules for all other countries. And anyone who thinks Iraq is a sovereign nation is kidding themselves.
BBC uncovers lost Iraq billions
By Jane Corbin
BBC News
A BBC investigation estimates that around $23 billion may have been lost, stolen or just not properly accounted for in Iraq.
The BBC''s Panorama programme has used US and Iraqi government sources to research how much some private contractors have profited from the conflict and rebuilding.
A US gagging order is preventing discussion of the allegations.
The order applies to 70 court cases against some of the top US companies.
War profiteering
While Presdient George W Bush remains in the White House, it is unlikely the gagging orders will be lifted.
To date, no major US contractor faces trial for fraud or mismanagement in Iraq.
The president''s Democratic opponents are keeping up the pressure over war profiteering in Iraq.
Henry Waxman, who chairs the House committee on oversight and government reform, said: "The money that''s gone into waste, fraud and abuse under these contracts is just so outrageous, it''s egregious.
"It may well turn out to be the largest war profiteering in history."
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The prime minister said Friday "this is not acceptable." The American demands "violate Iraqi sovereignty. At the end, we reached a dead end."
Washington and Baghdad have been negotiating behind closed doors a deal that would give U.S. troops legal grounds for an extended stay in Iraq after a U.N. mandate expires Dec. 31.
****** I truly really believed that Bush had looked Al-Maliki in the eye and told us that this was an ally of America - Dumb - I really did. Cheers!
Posted by shingles1 at 09:33 AM : Jun 13, 2008
LOL!!!
Posted by lib_crusher at 09:19 AM : Jun 13, 2008
How is it possible for any sane person to cook up this BS ? You really believe that a liberal insurgency here in the states is causing this deadlock in Iraq ?? Traitorous Left ??? - says who ???? Basically, this is a war against another party for you and not for whats in the best interest of this country - which is why you''re starting to realise the ease at which people simply tune youoff. Cheers!
Posted by toldyouso12 ..it''s over libcrusher pack your bags!!!
you got any proof that the Iraqi people LOVE our presence?
YOU made the statement YOU prove it.
Al-Maliki got the message loud and clear this week from the real source of power in the Shiite world. The supreme ayotollah told him not to sign anything agreeing to an open ended US presense in Iraq.
He knows perfectly well that could lead to disaster for the whole middle east and would like to avoid that scenario.
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