June 13, 2008
McCain Aide: Obama Is No Bill Clinton
Political Players: McCain Adviser Nicolle Wallace Also Says Her Candidate Is The Real Reformer
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Barack Obama wants to protect Americans from amassing more credit card debt, while John McCain derided his plan for leading to higher taxes across the board. Susan Roberts reports.
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CBSNews.com: Taxes and the economy have been the main point of contention between the two candidates since Senator Obama became the nominee. More than 80 percent of the country is dissatisfied with the state of the economy. What is the fundamental difference between how President Bush has managed the economy and how Senator McCain would manage the economy?
Nicolle Wallace: Well, I think McCain has a decades-long record of calling for far greater fiscal discipline and for making some of those tough choices between spending and spending restraint. And I think that sets him apart from a lot of politicians, Democrats and Republicans. I think that's essential to his philosophy that the entire federal government needs fundamental, seismic reforms--to serve the people that it's there to serve in every capacity, not just in terms of the economy.
Even with those first Bush tax cuts. At the time that was a vote in favor of fiscal discipline, not against tax cuts. So I think there's a really big difference between these two.
CBSNews.com: Of course, at the time, Senator McCain argued against the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts not just because of spending cuts that he thought should happen--but because he thought they weren't fair enough. And he criticized the percentage that went to the wealthiest one percent. So what's changed between now and then?
Nicolle Wallace: Well, I think that what the two candidates running for President right now face is the choice between the tax burden on Americans getting bigger or the tax burden on Americans getting smaller.
And what they have to choose between is two men who I think stand proudly on their vision for the future. Barack Obama seems to stand very proudly on a platform of raising taxes for just about every working American family. And John McCain stands very proudly on what is his economic vision for the future which is cutting taxes for a vast majority of working American families.
I mean, they have a huge difference of opinion on the role of the job creators in America. Barack Obama believes in taxing the job creators. John McCain believes that the best way to keep them creating jobs and creating more jobs is to lower the tax burden on the job creators. So it's just a big policy difference and I would hope that the debate remains truthful and respectful.
CBSNews.com: But, as you know, the Democrats are trying to sell a narrative about McCain, which is that he used to be a maverick, he used to be independent. He opposed the Bush tax cuts both times, not just because of fiscal discipline but also because of fairness. And he essentially sold his soul to become the Republican nominee and is now running on the Bush economic policy. What's your response to that?
Nicolle Wallace: We should only be so lucky to have the Obama campaign be stupid enough to depict John McCain as a man who would sell his soul. I mean that's just offensive at every level. He's a man who spent years serving his country. He has a well documented record as a POW who let his fellow soldiers go before him.
That is an offensive political attack that I think the American people will reject, so I'm not even going to dignify it with a response. But I think that the voters and John McCain are both focused on the future, which is a choice between two candidates who have a very different view about the size of the tax burden on the American taxpayer. And I don’t think that the voters will believe for a minute that John McCain is carrying anyone's water other than theirs.
His positions on taxes are rooted in what he thinks is the best thing for the American economy and the American people. And I think we welcome a robust debate, but I think what we will reject loudly is any effort to impugn the motives or what you described as selling one's soul. I just don't think that's true or fair at any level.
CBSNews.com: For the record, I didn't describe it that way. I was characterizing what some Democrats have said for your response.
Nicolle Wallace: I wasn't addressing you. I was addressing the Democrats that said that.
CBSNews.com: Your former boss, President Bush, expressed regret during his trip to Europe this week. He said he should have used "a different tone, a different rhetoric” so that people would see him as a man of peace. You were communications director at the White House. Looking back, what could have been done different about how the President communicated on the war?
Nicolle Wallace: I just saw those comments reported the same way you did. And I think that it's natural and positive and healthy that at this point, he's reflecting on a lot of aspects of his presidency. I think we're all kind of at that point where people are looking back. A lot of people in the media and Democrats are drawing very negative conclusions. Even some Republicans are, I guess.
But, without kind of seeing the whole context of that, I don't want to say too much more. I would say that President Bush has admitted mistakes, you know, big ones--at all levels--multiple times. I mean, this is going back to 2005. We talked about mistakes in the military strategy and adjustments that were made. Mistakes in the political strategy in Iraq and adjustments that had been made. And I think it's probably a natural extension of that reflection that he said what he said today. But I don't have any other insights there.
CBSNews.com: Does McCain believe Bush is a great president?
Nicolle Wallace: I don't know. That's a good question to put to him next time Katie gets an interview with him.
CBSNews.com: There's obviously been a lot of Republican criticism of that McCain event last Tuesday night, of the now infamous green backdrop, of McCain's presentation as he gave his speech, and the composition of the crowd, and pretty much everything about the room. How did that happen, and what has the campaign learned from the experience?
Nicolle Wallace: You know, having joined the McCain campaign late--just about six weeks ago, I can brag on them in a way that they can't do on themselves because I joined late. When you walk around the campaign headquarters, what is most stunning to me is just how lean it is. Everything looks like something you and I would have put in our college dorm room--like temporary furniture. They did not spend money they didn't have.
And if you know anyone that's stared down death, you know they have this inspirational kind of gratitude for just being here. And I think there's a little bit of a mentality that they were grappling with right after seizing the nomination where they did not want to spend more than they had. They did not want to ramp up too quickly.
There was this sense to start small and to build slowly. And I think what the media is seeing, and what you're talking about, are just some natural growing pains. And we are now in a position where when we made mistakes, we're under the full glare and scrutiny of the media spotlight, as we should be. But we obviously see what you see and we're making adjustments and we're making corrections.
CBSNews.com: Is there concern in the McCain campaign about the fairness of the mainstream media coverage going forward? Because the Clinton campaign certainly raised a lot of objections to the way Senator Obama was treated, in their view, by the media. Does the McCain campaign share those concerns?
Nicolle Wallace: We are focused on the future and I think we are going to observe very closely and be on the lookout for any disparities. I think John McCain has a decades-long record of being one of the most extraordinarily accessible and one of the most well-liked politicians in America among the public and among the media. He has a famous joke about the press being his base.
So I think we feel that we enjoy, by and large, a very open, very positive, very healthy relationship with the vast majority of the media. But where we see bias or where we see an incomplete story or where we see a story that we think is out of line or unfair, you'll hear from us. Or whatever outlet that carries that story will hear from us.
CBSNews.com: Is there any consideration being given to McCain making a one-term pledge?
Nicolle Wallace: No. Not that I'm aware of. I think that what people will look at in November are two very different candidates. Two men who, I think, represent the best of their parties at this moment, perhaps. Obviously, based on the votes cast by primary voters. And I think they'll make a choice based on big, wide gaping differences on the big policies we're facing.
CBSNews.com: Do you think Michelle Obama is a legitimate issue in the campaign?
Nicolle Wallace: What do you mean?
CBSNews.com: Will the McCain campaign be open to attacking what she has to say, or do you rule out making comments about what a candidate's spouse has to say?
Nicolle Wallace: I would look back among your records, but I believe our candidate has spoken clearly on that. This will be a debate between Barack Obama and John McCain and that would not be the case. But you should check that.
CBSNews.com: The Obama camp is very proud of the fact that soon they will have staff in all 50 states. Is that something that the McCain campaign hopes to match?
Nicolle Wallace: I think there are probably many different schools of thought about the political wisdom of staff in 50 states. I believe that we subscribe to something that will look different. But our political strategy will be one that's born of our view and our perspective of what it takes to win in November.
CBSNews.com: A couple of times this week, Senator McCain said he is not running for President Bush's third term but Senator Obama is running for Jimmy Carter's second. But you have to be in your forties, at least, to remember Jimmy Carter. So is there a concern that that attack is less relevant given how many voters don't particularly remember how President Carter performed in office?
Nicolle Wallace: Well, I think that there's a policy point being made. And I'll give the Obama campaign the benefit of the doubt and say that I think what they're trying to make is a policy argument there. We're making a policy argument when we talk about Jimmy Carter's second term. And I think that Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter should be proud to embody each other on many aspects of the policies they seek to advance.
Their national security vision is nearly identical. And their economic policies are most similar. I certainly think it would be illegitimate and wrong to say that he's running for an extension of Bill Clinton's presidency. So we went back to Jimmy Carter's policy vision to find a comparison or an analogy or something to help people understand what kind of America he envisions.
CBSNews.com: Why do you think he's so different from Bill Clinton?
Nicolle Wallace: Well, economists who are much smarter than me can tell you much, much more about this. But I think at his core, his economic vision was different from Obama's in that it favored pro-growth policies more. And, again, you have to talk to an economist to get into the nitty-gritty there. But I think the economic vision that most closely mirrors Obama's is Jimmy Carter's.
CBSNews.com: Early in the campaign, Senator McCain seemed to rule out naming somebody pro-choice to be his running mate. He spoke very frankly about how difficult that would be within his own party. And yet, lately, he's spoken favorably about Governor Ridge and Mayor Bloomberg. So what is his policy about naming somebody who's pro-choice?
Nicolle Wallace: We're not going to have anything to say about the vice presidential selection process or any of the people being considered until we announce our running mate.
CBSNews.com: Finally, let me ask you about the town halls. The first one is happening this week. Presumably, there will be an empty chair there for Senator Obama.
Nicolle Wallace: Aw, that's too bad.
CBSNews.com: Do you think Obama really wants to do these forums or is he just talking about it?
Nicolle Wallace: You'd have to ask them. Everything I've seen and observed about his candidacy, at least the rhetoric, speaks to the deep desire of the American people to see politics done differently, done better. I don't know that there's any proposal on the table right now to accomplish that than Senator McCain's proposal for town halls.
CBSNews.com: And your campaigns have been in touch but no progress has been made on actually scheduling these?
Nicolle Wallace: Right.
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See all 144 Comments2. Bill Clinton didn''t want to destroy America as built, at least until he could extract all the cash he could first. OsamaObama is so liberal the destruction of America as built is his sole focus.
3. Bill Clinton is white. OsamaObama claims he isn''t.
4. Bill Clinton promised you plenty of largess if you voted for him, then kept it for himself. OsamaObama also promises you plenty of largess if you vote for him. I just hope we never get a chance to determine how different he will be than Bill Clinton on this one.
How about these for differences?
ID LOVE TO HEAR OBAMA DEFEND THIS CHOICE IN A TOWN HALL. LOL
McCain is a clown and a joke. It''s time to get all the bushmen out of the White House!!!
1. Keeping the Issues alive...Iraq
2. Keeping the Issues alive...Foreclosures
3. Keeping the Issues alive...Unemployment
4. Keeping the Issues alive...World Peace
5. Keeping the Issues alive...Economics
You republicans...take a pick and lets have a mind-blowing, hardcore discussion. Let''''''''s see what you people are capable of and what brains you have to bring to the table when it comes to "real issues"
I am Fleura and a True Democrat and I approve this message!!!
McCain wants American to take the bill and pay to see our kids dying for an unpopular war, yet refusing them to go to college on returning home from war....what an Idiot and a Clown!
McCain is a clown and a joke. It''''s time to get all the bushmen out of the White House!!!
McCain wants to keep our kids fighting in Iraq, a war started for the "Bush" clan and only to profit the "Bush-McCain" tribe.
McCain wants American to take the bill and pay to see our kids dying for an unpopular war, yet refusing them to go to college on returning home from war....what an Idiot and a Clown!
1. Keeping the Issues alive...Iraq
2. Keeping the Issues alive...Foreclosures
3. Keeping the Issues alive...Unemployment
4. Keeping the Issues alive...World Peace
5. Keeping the Issues alive...Economics
You republicans...take a pick and lets have a mind-blowing, hardcore discussion. Let''''''''''''''''s see what you people are capable of and what brains you have to bring to the table when it comes to "real issues"
I am Fleura and a True Democrat and I approve this message!!!
Black or White or Black and White. You, Barack Obama represent "US" the American people and value our heritage and can bring "Unity" here in the States as well as Abroad.
Barack Obama Rules!!!
ROTFLMGTBO!!!!
ID LOVE TO HEAR OBAMA DEFEND THIS CHOICE IN A TOWN HALL. LOL
Posted by jack3213 at 11:32 AM : Jun 13, 2008
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I would, too. No one should rot in prison because some bounty hunter fingered them with no evidence. Or even with mistaken evidence.
How would you like to be grabbed by some foreign government and held for years with no trial?
Many of the gitmo prisoners are believed to be innocent, in case you haven''t heard.
This entire episode is a terrible stain on the honor of the US.
Posted by Beastof70 at 11:07 AM : Jun 13, 2008
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Other than the apparent racism and the juvenile name-calling, do you have a point?
McCain Aide: Obama Is No Bill Clinton - That is the best compliment McCain could pay to Barack -
Richard Dumas,San Diego,CA
Kept his pants on? I don''t think so... not when you ask Larry Sinclair! So, don''t even go there.
As for the economy, only a smart Clinton can be a smart Clinton.
On to the issues:
The Supreme court ruled this week, 5-4, to allow prisoners the right to be charged with a crime. The lead ruling by Justice Kennedy was 70 pages, in defense of habeas corpus.
Vote for Obama, since McCain does not support the ruling or habeas corpus and two of the Judges are retiring in the next couple of years, and one is 88. In fact, not only is McCain not willing to allow habeas corpus in the courts, McCain sides with the CIA to allow torture of prisoners by waterboarding and undisclosed means, which torture is against the Geneva Convention for treatment of prisoners and against our Constitution which does not allow persons to be made to testify against themselves, precisely so they will not be tortured.
Sen Obama says in his stump speeches, "I will restore habeas corpus". Sen McCain doesnt. Sen Clinton doesnt.
Vote to have Obama select the new judges on the Supreme Court who value the Constitution. They will rule for women''s rights, sexual rights, prisoners rights. Or, choose McFearmonger, and lose the Constitution, and civil rights and rights of scientists, for a generation.
We can''t adequately protect our borders so we attempt to defile the constitution in the name of fighting terrorism? Why didn''t this come up when Oklahoma City was bombed by domestic terrorists? They are as equally dangerous as any other hate group. Why? Opportunism by the Bush cabal.
As between President Clinton and President Bush, I choose President Clinton.
If Senator Clinton were the VP nominee, she has some good networking buddies who already know how to get things done. She could be a very valuable resource.
When I look at John McCain, I see a man who will keep in place all the huge tax cuts for the super rich and do nothing to alleviate the burdens of low and middle class Americans.
John McCain will keep the Patriot Act intact and that act is unconstitutional because it permits any of us U.S. Citizens to be plucked off the street without probable cause and be held without knowing what the charges against us are.
Senator Obama understands constitutional law better than Senator McCain. I believe that Senator Obama would restore civil liberties to the people of this country.
As between Senator Obama and Senator McCain, I believe Senator Obama is the least lousy solution. Sometimes in politics, that is the best you can get.
With respect to experience, since when did an experienced politician really wow anyone? Usually experienced politicians are trying ways to wear two faces to their constituents while he/she is figuring out how to win over the big corporate contributions to keep the re-election machine going. America has had in experienced presidents in the past. And I don''t see a great correlation between effectiveness and experienced..although we all think that experience will mitigate any risk, but it''s not assured. The risk with McCain is his age. We all remember that Reagan suffered from Alzheimer''s even as president. And the running joke was that Nancy was running the show. In this dangerous world today, we need someone who is not stuck in the past and can communicate a hopeful vision for all Americans, not just the wealthy and connected. And we need someone who isn''t bound by too many political favors, like experienced politicians would be. McCain used to impress me, but after McCain joined the Bush camp with respect to Iraq, McCain lost all my respect.
Mukasey Says Despite Supreme Court Decision, Gitmo Trials Will Continue
By: Nicole Belle @ 11:30 AM - PDT
AP:
U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey says the Supreme Court%u2019s decision on Guantanamo detainees won%u2019t affect military trials against enemy combatants.
Mukasey, speaking Friday at a Group of Eight meeting of justice and home affairs ministers, said he was disappointed with the decision.
But he told reporters it won%u2019t affect military trials to be held at the U.S. naval facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The Bush administration has been ignoring the concept of equal branches of government and oversight for 7 1/2 years, why stop now? Habeas Corpus? C%u2019mon, that%u2019s not for those swarthy Middle Eastern types.
He came from no where with nothing. He talked his way to the top.
With conditioning mind motivational speeches, catch phrases and slogans, repetition using the media, keeping it everywhere continuous. Telling people they are having hard times, it was bushes fault, the governemts fault. told them what they needed, made stories up to make it look like he could relate to them, like he felt what they felt, pour on some religion, said he gave them hope, told them we can change things, He was the only one who could change things, promised them all they wanted to hear, add more platitudes. He kept telling them over and over again, Yes we can. won over their minds and got thier vote. he''s the one.
What is moving across America is not some one that is going to give you what you need or want. That was just to fill your head to get votes. He said he wanted to Unite America, he divided it instead, he also divided the democratic party. He did Unite the Black community in Solidarity and strength. For he promised them more, He is their Joshua leading them to the promise land.
He promised every American something, promised business and industry, rich and poor. Who is he going to let down, he can not accomplish what he says.
Will he give it to the ones he Divided or to the ones he United?
The American Public wants something Different, if that were not the Case, Hillary Clinton would`ve Won the Nomination on ....
Super Tuesday !!
That Did`nt Happen...Sorry
Bill does have a Son in Australia, that he Fathered by an African American Bordelo Hooker, whose about 21-22 Years Old...
By the name of Danny Williams, by which this Former Prostitute & her Son danny Williams now Live in Australia. Danny Attened Private Schools, Paid by Clinton himself.
All of this will come out, as well as All the Arab Millions, the Clinton''s Qatar, Kuwait & United Arab Emirates Millions, in their Off Shore cayman Island Account.
Bill & Hillary Should Lay Low and then Blow Away...Forever !!
Wouldn''t you like to find out now, before things get out of hand? I''m thinking he is going to let you and me the general public down. Think about it, he has proven himself about the wealthy he needs them, he does not think much about the little guy, in his talks to them. To the UCC he told them we were lonely, walking around going down a road to no where, needing someone to listen. He told the small college towns in Ohio, "Don''t go into corporate American, take jobs as nurses and teachers and factories we need them" Told them in inner city in Cleveland to stay in school go to college become lawyers.
I think you know, but he has his hands on your minds.
Did you see how many times he has lied to us about important things, his family all of his friends, all documented in the media.
Think about it.
McCain voted with BUSH 95% of the time.
He is not reform.
*McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed; to saying gay marriage shouldn%u2019t be allowed.
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as %u201Can agent of intolerance%u201D in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans %u201Cdeserved%u201D the 9/11 attacks.
* McCain used to oppose Bush%u2019s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending %u201Cdirty money%u201D to help finance Bush%u2019s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.
* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.
McCain voted with BUSH 95% of the time.
He is not reform.
* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he%u2019s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty%u2019s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants%u2019 kids who graduate from high school. Now he%u2019s against it.
* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving %u201Cfeedback%u201D on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he now opposes the measure.
"Because I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women." [CNN, 9/24/02]
"We%u2019re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we%u2019re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies." [CNN, 9/29/02]
"But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily." [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
"But I believe, Katie, that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators." [NBC, 3/20/03]
"It%u2019s clear that the end is very much in sight." [ABC, 4/9/03]
"There%u2019s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along." [MSNBC, 4/23/03]
"This is a mission accomplished. They know how much influence Saddam Hussein had on the Iraqi people, how much more difficult it made to get their cooperation." [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]
"I%u2019m confident we%u2019re on the right course." [ABC News, 3/7/04]
"I do think that progress is being made in a lot of Iraq. Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course. If I thought we weren%u2019t making progress, I%u2019d be despondent." [The Hill, 12/8/05]
%u201CI%u2019m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.%u201D
and
%u201CThe issue of economics is not something I%u2019ve understood as well as I should,%u201D McCain said. %u201CI%u2019ve got Greenspan%u2019s book.%u201D
"I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda."
"I am not opposed to all wars. I%u2019m opposed to dumb wars."
Barack Obama Oct. 2, 2002
The Rezko trial has uncovered a complex network of cronies, and patronage. and a shockingly large number of them have had relationships on some level with Barack Obama. Do we want the appearance, real or imagined, that these corrosive elements will be influencing our party at the most fundamental levels?
A good number of us already suspect that this has been taking place. Please contact Howard Dean and especially all representatives on the Delegate List in your state and tell them that you strongly oppose this move. Express your concern about the direction of the Democratic Party.
www.clintondems.com
Translation: Obama is now moving to Chicago, because I Hate that Black Woman and can`t Stand Black Americans, though they`ve Fought for this country, in Every War this Country has ever Fought. Rev.Wright Fought for this Country, how about YOU..ttracymorgan
The democrat party is being divided by Black Liberation Theology...
Translation: I don`t want Blacks to Control, the White House, they may send us all back to Europe and we don`t speak any European Languages and we can`t Technically Speak Formal English.
You Fear Mongers Really Think like that...
Its Funny as He!!
Michelle Obama is the most Polarizing Woman in American politics.
Translation: I don`t want a Black Woman as my 1st Lady !!
ttracymorgan: I`m So D@mn Racist, Thats whats So D@mn Polarizing about the Possiblility of Michelle being My 1st Lady !!
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You Scared to Death-White People only in the White House, as President, Fear Mongering the Black Liberation Theology, as if thats going to change Obama`s candidacy, is Funny as He!!.
Liberation speaks of Independence from Others and Self Reliance and Standing on your own Two Feet.
That sounds Great to Me !!!
Translation: Obama is now moving to Chicago, because I Hate that Black Woman and can`t Stand Black Americans, though they`ve Fought for this country, in Every War this Country has ever Fought. Rev.Wright Fought for this Country, how about YOU..ttracymorgan
The democrat party is being divided by Black Liberation Theology...
Translation: I don`t want Blacks to Control, the White House, they may send us all back to Europe and we don`t speak any European Languages and we can`t Technically Speak Formal English.
You Fear Mongers Really Think like that...
Its Funny as He!!
Michelle Obama is the most Polarizing Woman in American politics.
Translation: I don`t want a Black Woman as my 1st Lady !!
ttracymorgan: I`m So D@mn Racist, Thats whats So D@mn Polarizing about the Possiblility of Michelle being My 1st Lady !!
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You Scared to Death-White People only in the White House, as President, Fear Mongering the Black Liberation Theology, as if thats going to change Obama`s candidacy, is Funny as He!!.
Liberation speaks of Independence from Others and Self Reliance and Standing on your own Two Feet.
That sounds Great to Me !!!
Posted by trracymorgan at 09:38 PM : Jun 13, 2008
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And you are the most idiotic poster on this site. Get a life. The time for you hick, snuff-sniff, moonshine making, uneducated, cow-*** kicking, redneck racist has past.
Last, some of the MASONS/FREE MASONS are trying to "FORCE" the SEVENTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON by putting John McCain into office! PROOF: Why did all the %u201CWHITE SUPREMISTS%u201D, in UTAH and IOWA, vote for Barack Obama??? The SEVENTH KINGDOM can NOT be realized. Said MASONS/FREE MASONS can NOT force Ezekiel 39, or acquire the necessary destruction of CHINA in the interim. Only a mess will occur--PERIOD!!!!!!!
Currently, the MASONS/FREE MASONS rule the world. Until July 2006, the MASONS/FREE MASONS were the "RIGHT HAND OF THE COUNSEL OF TEN"! The MASONS/FREE MASONS own every major corporation and almost the entire banking system (FEDERAL RESERVE and THE EUROPEAN BANK)! All three (3) branches of GOVERNMENT, within the UNITED STATES, are controlled and ran by the MASONS/FREE MASONS! All of EUPROPE and part of RUSSIA are controlled by the MASONS/FREE MASONS! Currently, CHINA is starting to break away and go rouge! Russia has been controlled to some degree by the MASONS/FREE MASONS, since the CZAR was removed. China was controlled by the MASONS/FREE MASONS, starting after WORLD WAR II.
The MASONS are the clue as to the forehead of the "SPIRITUAL PROSTITUTE" located in REVELATIONS 17. Since the MASONS are of the SIXTH KINGDOM OF BABYLON, there is no longer any MYSTERY (MYSTERY BABYLON)! Furthermore, the only time GOD calls a NATION a "spiritual prostitute" is in the OLD TESTAMENT (NOTHERN and SOUTHERN KINGDOMS OF ISRAEL). GOD used the UNITED STATES, starting during the early part of the 20 CENTURY, to perpetuate the KINGDOM OF GOD. The first time that this occurred was when GOD tried to use ISRAEL to do the job (OLD TESTAMENT)! Therefore, the UNITED STATES is the "SPIRITUAL PROSTITUTE" within REVELATIONS 17! There is additional proof located in REVELATIONS 17 and 18.
During 2006, there was allot of individuals stating that EZEKIEL 38 was about to occur. EZEKIEL 38 could not occur until the UNITED STATES was destroyed. The clue is within EZEKIEL 38:11. EZEKIEL 38:11 shows that ISRAEL is left all alone. The UNITED STATES is the protector of ISRAEL. Therefore, the UNITED STATES is removed prior to EZEKIEL 38. EZEKIEL 39 proves that RUSSIA is the second HORN to be removed (BOOK OF DANIEL Chapter 7)!
When Lucifer fell, ten of the original counsel members fell, including Lucifer. REVELATIONS 13 and 17 prove this. The beast is "DARKNESS" in general. The TEN HORNS are the "COUNSEL OF TEN", established about 2000 years ago, after GOD released the other nine (9) from the abyss.
Bottom line, President Bush was going to invade IRAN during 2006. This was inevitable. The prophecies and the evidence prove this. Furthermore, neither GOD nor the said COUNSEL OF TEN could "delay" judgment (entire OLD TESTAMENT). GOD could only sustain judgment or overturn judgment, given LEGAL or "JUST CAUSE" (BOOK OF JONAH)! The judgment of GOD was changed during July 2006, when GOD''S LAW was changed by GOD. I was there!!!!! GOD used me to change the law based on a prior legal precedent, legal precedent prior to LUCIFER''S fall. I am a COUNSEL MEMBER of the ORIGINAL TWELVE (12).
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!
The other key is from the PAGANS that acquired their information from the immortals. The MAYAN LEGEND states that, when the THIRTEEN SKULLS (representations of the COUNSEL OF 12 and GOD (JESUS CHRIST)) are reunited, the end will not come. The end as to the MAYAN CALENDAR is December 10, 2012. This is completely accurate. Six (6) years after the year of "DARKNESS", the anti-christ will initiate the end with the beginning of the war with China. The year of "DARKNESS" is 2006. The day of "DARKNESS" is June 6, 2006. This means that the FIRST HORN (THE UNITED STATES) had to be removed on or before December 10, 2006. The TRIGGER was IRAN! President Bush was going to invade IRAN with NUCLEAR WEAPONS during 2006!
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