Vets Testify On Cold War Toxins

Chemicals Used Decades Ago May Have Sickened U.S. Military

(CBS/ AP)  Lawmakers and veterans of secret Cold War-era chemical and germ tests on military personnel demanded help from the Bush administration Thursday, but they got no satisfaction.

Officials from the Pentagon and Veterans Affairs Department said there was no need for legislation to guarantee health care and benefits to the veterans. Thousands of servicemembers were exposed, sometimes without their knowledge, to real and simulated chemical and biological agents, including sarin and VX.

The tests were conducted at sea and above a half-dozen U.S. states from 1962-1973 to see how U.S. ships would withstand chemical and germ assaults and how such weapons would disperse.

"We were exposed to health hazards almost continuously," retired Navy Reserve Lt. Commander Jack Alderson told the House Veterans Affairs subcommittee on disability assistance.

Veterans who tried to get help from the V.A. were "shown the door," Alderson said, his voice loud and choked with emotion.

Administration officials said there was no definitive link between the tests - called Project 112 and Project SHAD - and illnesses, including cancer and respiratory problems, now afflicting Alderson and others.

CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin reports there was a lot of pressure on the servicemembers not to rock the boat about the tests.

"We were pretty strongly debriefed and said if we ever talk about this we could find ourselves with free room and board at Leavenworth (prison). And everybody kept their mouth shut,'' said Alderson.

When Alderson finally complained, the Pentagon insisted there was no Project SHAD. So Alderson went to his congressman, Martin reports. But Rep. Mike Thompson still didn't get the whole truth from the Pentagon.

"I went to the military and after a couple years of banging on the doors over there they finally admitted there was in fact this project that took place, this Project SHAD,'' said Thompson.

"DOD opposes this legislation. The scientific evidence does not support" it, Michael L. Dominguez, a principal deputy undersecretary of defense, said in written testimony to the panel.

The Pentagon did not send Dominguez or anyone else to testify in person. That aggravated the subcommittee chairman, Rep. John Hall, D-N.Y., who said the Defense Department backed out just last week after initially agreeing to attend.

"The nexus between DOD and V.A. is undeniable," Hall said as the hearing began. "Congress deserves the right to question the appropriate DOD personnel in person, not just in writing."

A Pentagon spokeswoman had no immediate comment on the department's failure to show. In an interview earlier this week, Dr. Michael Kilpatrick, the Pentagon's deputy director for force health protection and readiness, said officials had determined the issue would be more appropriately addressed by the Veterans Affairs Department.

The V.A. witness echoed what DOD had to say. Bradley Mayes, the Veterans Affairs director of compensation and pensions, called legislation unnecessary because the agency was not "aware of evidence linking any disease to participation in project SHAD."

The bill under consideration is patterned after legislation passed in 1991 to help people exposed to Agent Orange, the chemical defoliant use used by U.S. forces in Vietnam that was linked to cancer and other ailments. Written by Reps. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., and Denny Rehberg, R-Mont., it would guarantee coverage and benefits to veterans of Projects 112 and SHAD without requiring them to prove a connection to their military service.

Thompson said it took DOD decades to admit the secret tests actually happened so he put no stock in their refusal to recognize health problems the tests may have caused.

A similar bill is scheduled for a vote in the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee later this month.

[jimedinco]

yes I am very agguinted with operation shad i was on board the uss navarro apa 215 in 63 at pearl harbor where they used us as guinnea pigs and the va is worthless

[impeach_w]

There are an estimated 600,000 to 800,000 people (MARINES AND FAMILIES) exposed to the chemicals tetrachloroethylene and trichloroethylene, known as PCE and TCE, between 1957 and 1985 in the water they drank, bathed in, and cooked with at Camp Lejeune, estimates Frank Bove, senior epidemiologist at the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. Two water treatment centers that served the Marine base were found to be contaminated with "probably some of the highest drinking water exposures ever seen in this country," said Dr. Richard Clapp, a professor at Boston University,

The contaminated wells were shut down in February 1985, but the Marine Corps did not inform all of the exposed residents until they were forced to in the passing of the Camp Lejeune Water Contamination Amendment beginning in 2007. Starting in 1999, the ATSDR contacted the parents of 12,598 eligible children, or 80 percent of the estimated total, who lived at the Marine base between 1968 and 1985, for a study determining the rate of specific birth defects and childhood cancers.

So far, the ATSDR found at least 100 babies exposed in utero to the contaminated drinking water at Camp Lejeune that suffered from birth defects and cancer, including 29 cases of leukemia or lymphoma and 42 cases of a cleft lip or palate.

Marines living in Jacksonville, NC between 1957 and 1985 need to read this:

http://www.local6.com/health/16457727/detail.html

[impeach_w]

Dad sprayed Agent Orange from a CH-46 and has Skin, bladder and Prostate cancer among others and a never treated PTSD.

It has taken the VA and Governnmet 40 years to admit there was any problem. I see no improvement.

It''s the same story: The VA won''t do anything for about 40 years. When they do, it will have a different name with different diagnostic critera. This is nothing new.
They will wait for you vets to die off before any problem is admitted or addressed.

This makes me Glad I never served. However, the Marine bases in Jacksonville, NC I was born and grew up knew it''s water supply was contamimated with Dry Cleaning Chemicals. They said and did Nothing until decades later when they could not deny they were aware of the chemicals and these were dangerous to humans. The only action was trying to contact those who lived there in the from ''68 on and may have been harmed by miscarrages, cancer etc.. NOTE the EXPOSURE STARTED IN ''57 SEEE BELOW!

SEE BELOW!

[hermitdave]

Tell you what veterans, if you are sick just go to any grade school and ask to testify in front of a third grade class. You will get just as much done about your problem as you will in front of the WIMP congress of this country. These are 535 of the most worthless humans on earth.

[randynason]

Maybe we should use these toxins on Pentagon personnel and their families to see if there is truly any danger. If they say there is no danger, then there should be no problem. Right?!!

[impeach_w]

I bet a vet who tesified to anyone walking into a recruiting center would get some results, especially if we could get a lot of vets at a lot of Recruiting stations. Create publicity. When the prospective recruits start to turn around before walking in, Things will change.

[usmc0231808]

http://www.nti. WBR org/d_newswire/ WBR issues/2007_ WBR 9_5.html# WBR C0469347


Former Marine Claims Illness From Mystery Vaccine - Target 5 News Story - WLWT

A CALL TO ARMS/ANTHRAX VACCINE

technohippie.com/ geeklog anthrax - no toxic toyland

American Gulf War Veterans Association

For anyone interested, another video - of another sick vet - can be found on my video player (attached to my aol profile at [e-mail]). If you know a sick vet, care about one, are married to one, the sibling of one - or just in general someone who cares about them, than you should read these stories and watch the videos. The truth is out there, so maybe someone, will finally pay attention.
Folks, we pay these peoples salaries. It is our responsibility as good Americans, to keep them in check, so if this is scary enough for you - please use your power to make your reps, do the job we put them there to do! Without voices, nothing gets done. The Dept of Defense (and the Dept of Vets Affairs) is just a bunch of dishonest criminals - coming from a vet - combat experienced vet who devoted my life to my country.
If you care - PLEASE - for all of us who served. TAKE A STAND NOW!

[michellem99-2009]

They serve and subject to who knows what and they are kicked in the teeth as it goes. What is the help for them..ye know money what ever..they raised their paw and served..STEP UP TO THE PLATE FOR THEM AMERICA. THEY EARNT IT.

[ubrew12]

Thanks to the Bush administration, they are now storing potent biowarfare agents in Hawaii, right next to a million people on the island of Oahu. Ebola virus, smallpox, etc, its all being stored near Pearl Harbor.

I was in Hawaii last year, and was amazed to listen to state-sponsored advertizements telling people what to do in case of a bird flu epidemic: stay in your house, dont go outside, dont go to work, dont go visit the neighbors, etc. But I knew: this had NOTHING to do with bird flu. THIS was about potential leakage of the horrific bioagents being stored there.

[impeach_w]

Sorry I posted the wrong link:

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/sites/lejeune/index.html

https://clnr.hqi.usmc.mil/clsurvey/

Camp Lejeune Water Study Call Center:
[phone]
e-mail [e-mail]

For more information on the
Camp Lejeune Water Study

Agency for Toxic Substance
and Disease Registry

[dakotaclark]

Hmmm...

Once again, people within the Bush Administration strike a blow against veterans.

President G. W. Bush will go down in history as being the most veteran unfriendly president - ever - in the history of The U.S.

[mclark151]

My Husband was a part of SHAD. In March he was diagmosed with Lung Cancer. He Never Smoked. So the Doctor said he must of been exposed to something that caused cancer.

[jb01201a]

Everything is George Bush fault - 9/11, tornadoes in the midwest, Katrina, etc. - its amazing how one man can cause soo much trouble !

[homespunlady]

Everything is George Bush fault - 9/11, tornadoes in the midwest, Katrina, etc. - its amazing how one man can cause soo much trouble !
Posted by jb01201a at 11:47 PM : Jun 12, 2008

YEP!! I know you''re being facetious but just THINK...

This NATION IS getting HORRIFIC weather thousands of lightning strikes, hundreds of tornadoes per year, (1,500 this year so far), RECORD FLOODS, DEVASTATING Fires, HEAT WAVES, Drought AND HURRICANES etc. since that man TOOK POWER.

Maybe the EVANGELICALS MIGHT understand THE idea OF "GOD''S WRATH".

Isn''t it BEGINNING TO SOUND like EGYPT and the WARNINGS of MOSES???

Maybe the GREED and SELFISHNESS of the AMERICAN LEADERSHIP and CORPORATE PUPPET-MASTERS HAS triggered some sort of "karma" "wrath" or "natural consequences".

NEXT UP...much of the remaining crops destroyed by MASSIVE "locust cloud" or maybe frighteningly big Earthquake/volcano in the US???

Either way my BETS are on growing FOOD SHORTAGES as a result of all this before next year.

[homespunlady]

The military has been a "captive" guinea pig population and I KNOW since I too have been part of it.

Environmental poisoning happened here in the states as well as places like Vietnam.
DUH - see SUPER-FUND SITES -many are STILL out there and many MORE should have been but WERE NOT listed).
Check out what got "dumped/sprayed" around places like nuclear sites -IF you can.

- then match those "sites" to illness clusters. (BOTH military AND CIVILIAN that have been in those areas)

-you MIGHT be surprised.

[incog-nito]

Everything is George Bush fault - 9/11, tornadoes in the midwest, Katrina, etc. - its amazing how one man can cause soo much trouble !

Posted by jb01201a at 11:47 PM : Jun 12, 2008

You stupid or what? This is about COLD WAR toxins. The Bush administration is of course responsible for this. They''re just denying the help these veterans need. That, combined with opposing the G.I. bill, indefinite stop-loss policy, says a lot about what Bush and McCain think about military personnel.

[incog-nito]

Correction: This is about COLD WAR toxins. The Bush administration is of course NOT responsible for this.

[samrensho]

The US Guvment, since WWII has treated its soldiers as throw away items. If you get injured they don''t wanna hear about it.

[michael0004]

Every day, more and more evidence is revealed that the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is an enemy, not an advocate for veterans. Has the VA conducted any investigations or studies to determine whether Project Shad had any deliterious health affects on U.S. servicmen. I doubt it. But that is typical of the VA. They just announce conclusions that fit in to preconceived notions so as to save a few dollars or cover up politically sensitive information. Take for instance so-called blue water U.S. Navy Vietnam veterans who are afflicted with diseases associated with exposure to Agent Orange. For 11 years after the enactmen of the Agent Orange Act of 1991, the VA granted medical and other benefits to these blue water Navy Vietnam veterans. But in 2002, the VA all of a sudden said that their interpretation of the AO Act of 1991 meant that only those Vietnam veterans who set foot on land in Vietnam were covered by the law. Conduct of combat operations a few hundred feet off shore in Vietnam or being anchored in Vietnam harbors no longer was sufficient to qualify for these benefits. So the blue water Navy veterans are left to die of their conditions. That''s the 21st century VA. More information on this can be obtained at www.bluewaternavy.org.

[michael0004]

Also, the VA is accepting comments on their proposal to codify the policy I describe in my previous comment. I encourage everyone, to file comments opposing the VA''s policy by:

1. Copy the following letters and numbers to your computers clipboard memory (highlight it and copy it)

VA-2008-VBA-0014

2. Go to this link: http://www.regulations.gov/search/index.jsp

The comment period ends on Monday, June 16th, so comments must be filed this weekend.

[alphaa10-2009]

Project 112 and SHAD took place decades ago, but epidemiologists understand it takes that long for a pathogen to manifest in disease symptoms.

Sarin and VX certainly can be considered pathogens, making denials from the Pentagon highly suspect.

Moreover, the Pentagon''s lack of transparency over this issue and its overt hostility to medical claims suggests DOD, itself, understands its own culpability is not easily deniable.

The nation''s veterans will continue to demand fair treatment on this issue. Ultimately, a third-party study may be required to bring justice for veterans in the face of Pentagon efforts to escape responsibility.

Not surprisingly, Bush has brought dishonor for himself and his party in his callous disregard for service personnel and their families. Bush treated military families like welfare cases, and veterans, themselves, with grudging afterthought.

In 2004, for example, Bush made an effort to cut $1.5 billion from budgeted funds to military family housing and medical facilities.

In 2007, the Walter Reed hospital scandal demonstrated a dramatic decline in care from an underfunded and overloaded VA. Some VA staffers had caseloads of 125 patients each, and long bureaucratic delays were typical. Some outpatient facilities were found infested with roaches, mice, and/or black mold.

[nothappyatall]

And THIS is the same Govt the repubiCONS support and want in power!

[darnedsocks]

WHY DON''T THEY TRY THESE "EXPERIMENTS" ON THE ENEMY, INSTEAD OF AMERICAN CITIZENS? WHO CARES IF OSAMA BIN LADEN GETS EXPOSED!

[grammawhamma]

My husband thought he survived Vietnam only to find out 34 years later that he didn''t. Agent Orange killed him at age 54.

[danstoned]

My Vietnam Civil War draftee Veteran brother is finally beginning to see that the Republicons that he has voted for since 1970 do not give a *** about US vets. I was so surprised and elated when he recently told me he was voting straight Democrat and Obama in November. He, as many Vietnam vets see Jewn McCain as a *** for his surrendering and collaberation with the North Vietnamese enemy.

[condumbism]

Posted by michael0004
Every day, more and more evidence is revealed that the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is an enemy, not an advocate for veterans.

Vote for self-centered Repiglicants in the White House as GW Bush or Juan (Israel First) McCain and nothing will change. It is past due time for Americans to vote for democrats that support the troops in both combat, and after. It is so obvious that all Republicunts are bought and payed for by greed (Corporate America), nothing more.

[carlylaine]

Some of you idiots just don''t get it. This is not NOT the REPUBLICAN-run government that is at fault by giving no assistance to our veterans. It''s the DUMBOCRAPS, too.

I am not a Repub.

...instead of looking realistically at the government you want to politicize by making this stupidity one side only when it''s all sides. You hate Bush so much you''d rather act like SATHERING lunatics. Well, go ahead with your venom. It certainly looks good on people who should be locked up.

[woodjd42]

Some of you idiots just don''''t get it. This is not NOT the REPUBLICAN-run government that is at fault by giving no assistance to our veterans. It''''s the DUMBOCRAPS, too.

I am not a Repub.

...instead of looking realistically at the government you want to politicize by making this stupidity one side only when it''''s all sides. You hate Bush so much you''''d rather act like SATHERING lunatics. Well, go ahead with your venom. It certainly looks good on people who should be locked up.


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Posted by CarlyLaine

I am a Vietnam Vet, I think bush/chaney are the worst excuse for humans there is. However I agree that the lack of assistance or caring is not a party issue. Both sides are to blame. I myself am so tired of people talking about supporting the troops but that is all they do. How many have done anything other than talk about supporting the troops or vets?

[oneworldusa]

Which half a dozen US States?

This is not going to help recruiting for our ''voluntary'' military forces.

[bigsk8fan]

i''ll bet bush wants to wait for ''better science'' on whether the usa army used toxins on its own soldiers. (just like he needed yet more proof on global warming)

[michael0004]

Every day, more and more evidence is revealed that the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is an enemy, not an advocate for veterans. Has the VA conducted any investigations or studies to determine whether Project Shad had any deliterious health affects on U.S. servicmen. I doubt it. But that is typical of the VA. They just announce conclusions that fit in to preconceived notions so as to save a few dollars or cover up politically sensitive information. Take for instance so-called blue water U.S. Navy Vietnam veterans who are afflicted with diseases associated with exposure to Agent Orange. For 11 years after the enactmen of the Agent Orange Act of 1991, the VA granted medical and other benefits to these blue water Navy Vietnam veterans. But in 2002, the VA all of a sudden said that their interpretation of the AO Act of 1991 meant that only those Vietnam veterans who set foot on land in Vietnam were covered by the law. Conduct of combat operations a few hundred feet off shore in Vietnam or being anchored in Vietnam harbors no longer was sufficient to qualify for these benefits. So the blue water Navy veterans are left to die of their conditions. That''''s the 21st century VA. More information on this can be obtained at www.bluewaternavy.org

[omnibus66]

What''s really scary about this is that you can be sure that DOD, CIA, NSA, or some other secret government agency is still carrying out chemical and biological tests.

How many tests have they already done that no one is talking about? Our government is out of control, and it is only getting worse.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country... Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed"

Abraham Lincoln, 11/12/1864

[michael0004]

Also, the VA is accepting comments on their proposal to codify the policy I describe in my previous comment. I encourage everyone, to file comments opposing the VA''''s policy by:

1. Copy the following letters and numbers to your computers clipboard memory (highlight it and copy it)

VA-2008-VBA-0014

2. Go to this link: http://www.regulations.gov/search/index.
jsp

The comment period ends on Monday, June 16th, so comments must be filed this weekend.

[cockapoo11]

Even being a bus driver requires a yearly checkup. Thats all people are talking about with healthcare. Just a checkup, Mr. ThisisVAHealthcare Man. And if America can afford to give hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars away to some foreign country like Iraq, why can''t it afford to pay fer every constituents butttcheek implants too? They''re constituents, and its their money.

[michael0004]

maxify55 you may denigrate VA medicine as being "socialized" all you want, but the fact is that thousands of veterans of current and past wars only opportunity for medical care for their service connected disabilities is the VA''s health care system. So, if given a choice between no health care and what you call "socialized" health care if you were one of these vets, which would you choose?

[michael0004]

%u201CWith malice toward none, with charity for all,
with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right,let us strive on to finish the work we are in,
to bind up the nation%u2019s wounds,to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow, and his orphan . . ." Abraham Lincoln''s 2nd Inaugural Address

[mswolfestock]

michael0004 - you are correct. The VA is NOT the veteran''s friend. The same can be said for Social Security - they go out of their way to deny benefits in the face of glaring disability.

This country is becoming a disgrace - I am a veteran myself (healthy, thank the Lord) and it just breaks my heart to know that the VA has been abandoning this country''s veterans for decades.

We need to stop the war in Iraq, then there would be plenty of money to take care of all of our deserving veterans. In the meantime, somebody needs to clean house and kick some b*u*t*t in the Veterans Administration. The VA should be run by veterans, then maybe they''d get the care and help they deserve.

[michael0004]

In the case of Agent Orange, the VA does not contest whether there is a disability, they just change the rules in such a way as to eliminate coverage for those with undisputed disabilities so as to save a few dollars or protect political interests. They do not do it based on any scientific studies or fact, that just proclaim it to be so. That is why many of us are opposing the VA''s rulemaking to codify its non-scientific based policies to deny Vietnam Veterans who came within hundreds of yards of the Vietnam shore or anchored in Vietnam harbors their disability claims based on exposure to Agent Orange. The VA ignores the scientific evidence of exposutore due wind drift and contanminated sea water that was used to make "fresh" water on board Navy ships. www.bluewaternavy.org has a wealth of info on this. We ask that all citizens file comments with the VA before the June 16th deadline and oppose the VA. To file comments:

1. Copy the following letters and numbers to your computers clipboard memory (highlight it and copy it)

VA-2008-VBA-0014

2. Go to this link: http://www.regulations.gov/search/index.jsp

Also, with respect to Project Shad, everyone should write to their Congressmen and insist that the legislation discussed by this article be passed.

[terrorislami]

THE NATION WILL LIVE TO REGRET WHAT THE COURT HAS DONE TODAY,,,

VOTE DEMONIC-RAT AT YOUR PERIL,,,

DEMONIC-RAT UN-SUPREME COURT JUDGES TRASH THE CONSTITUTION,,,

Scalia asserted that the decision will have dire consequences. He warned that some detainees will be freed and return to war against America: "The nation will live to regret what the court has done today."

Supreme Court maintains post-9/11 course on Gitmo
The Supreme Court''''s 5-4 decision Thursday declaring for the first time that Guantanamo detainees have a constitutional right to a hearing in U.S. courts is a milestone. It also reinforces a familiar court pattern in the post-9/11 world of insisting on judicial review of detainee cases.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/judicial/2008-06-12-court-pattern_N.htm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/12/supremecourt/main4175226.shtml

[michael0004]

You are welcome t_barr. In 1969 - 1971, I was stationed aboard USS Eversole (DD 789). We also spent time on the gun line and anchored in DaNang harbor. Although I have a covered conditioned under the Agent Orange Act, the VA will not approve my disability because I did not set foot on land in the Republic of Vietnam. Unlike many others though, I am fortunate to have private health insurance, so my medical needs are covered by that insurance. A lot of our shipmates are not so fortunate though and the VA''s denial of benefits to them means that they do not have access to adequate medical care and can not afford the necessary medication. They have been quite literally dieing while the VA after losing a court case apealed the decision rather than give them the medical care they need and deserve. I''m glad to hear that you intend to write the VA. Thank you for your support.

[shirereef]

This is just another example of DVA and DOD attempting FURTHER cover ups on saving a penny so the bigwigs and brass can get BIG awards (in cash) for saving that penny. I mean this is totally ludricous bordering on murder. Stop rewriting rules that were put in place by Presidents and congress. I am refering to the DVA attempting to rewrite the ''Definition of Service in the Republic of Vietnam'', against the Blue Water Navy Veterans of Vietnam. We fought there, some of us died there, some of us were imprisoned there and now the DVA is attempting to say we were NOT in the VietNam War but in an"VietNam Era War". Is that what the Blue Water Navy did in the D''Day landings, Anzio, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, Afgahnistan and Iraq???? shirereef

[Latrocinor]

There are no statesmen, just ************.

Posted by globlwarning
.. .. ..
The statesman have been chased off by insanely cursing and screaming citizens.

Now you got telemarketers in a new career.

[terrorislami]

TAKE NO PRISONERS,,,

we have defeated fascist nazi terrorislam before,,,

after america became a country,,, fascist nazi terrorislam demanded that america pay protection money or they would attack americas ships and enslave all on board,,,

thomas jefferson and james madison was having non of that,,, and they sent americas military to kick fascist nazi terrorislams arses in barbary war one and barbary war two,,, why two wars,,, fascist nazi terrorislamists break treaties,,, sound familiar??? can you say iraq,,,

It is a settled policy of America, that as peace is better than war, war is better than tribute. The United States, while they wish for war with no nation, will buy peace with none. President James Madison

[dog7771]

we let the Bund/Nazis flourish here and embraced them. I don''t trust any of our courts, politicians (except Dean/Obama) Now we know Pelosi and others were in on the torture and spying. That is why no impeachment. She and the others will NOT BE REELECTED.

[terrorislami]

Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. ~D.H. Lawrence, Classical American Literature, 1922

[terrorislami]

USA''''s PLEDGE 2 THE WORLD GIVEN BY JFK!!

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961

"Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. The cause of liberty, the cause of American, cannot succeed with any lesser effort."-- President John F. Kennedy, January 29, 1961

One ought never to turn one''''s back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Winston Churchill

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein

All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

[terrorislami]

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein

%u201CAdmittedly there is a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson in history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face--that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight and surrender.%u201D (President Reagan, 1964. Rendezvous with Destiny)

[terrorislami]

I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain. John Adams