Marine Faces Expulsion For Puppy Video

Another Marine Will Be Disciplined For Posting Video Online In Which A Puppy Is Thrown Off A Cliff In Iraq

(AP)  The Marine Corps on Wednesday said it was expelling one Marine and disciplining another for their roles in a video showing a Marine throwing a puppy off a cliff while on patrol in Iraq.

The 17-second video posted on YouTube drew sharp condemnation from animal rights groups when it came to light in March.

The clip shows two Marines joking before one hurls the puppy into a rocky gully. A yelping sound is heard as it flips through the air.

"That's mean. That's mean, Motari," an off-camera Marine is heard telling the Marine who tossed the black and white dog. The off-camera Marine snickered slightly afterward.

Lance Cpl. David Motari, assigned to the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment at Kaneohe Bay, is "being processed for separation" from the Marine Corps, the Marine Corps said in a news release. He also received unspecified "non-judicial punishment."

The Marine Corps didn't say what role Motari played in the clip.

The video was viewed tens of thousands of times before YouTube took it down due to a violation of the site's terms of use.

"The actions seen in the Internet video are contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine and will not be tolerated," Marine Corps Base Hawaii said in a news release. "The vast majority of Marines conduct their duties with honor and compassion that makes American people proud."

The second Marine, Sgt. Crismarvin Banez Encarnacion also received unspecified "non-judicial" punishment.

Encarnacion is assigned to the Weapons and Field Training Battalion, Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego.

First Lt. Binford Strickland, a Marine Corps Base Hawaii spokesman, said the service may not reveal what roles the two men played in the video because that was part of the investigation. He said releasing such information would violate the Privacy Act.

Strickland declined to provide details about the disciplinary measures taken against the men for the same reason.

[dobbershome]

Cold hearted ba$tards! Someone should throw his A$$ into the gully and listen to him yelp on the way down.

[mo005]

I think they should make this sob work in a dog shelter for a year with no pay for being an idiot.

[ralan40]

wow, imagine what punishment they would receive if they had killed a human being...

[wineberry]

Well it has been speculated that it was not a real puppy, and I certainly hope not. However, even if it was a toy that was a deplorable thing to do and unlike anything expected from someone representing the US Marines. I''m glad that the soldier is at least facing expulsion and he should never be allowed into any part of the Military again. What a shameful, very shameful thing to do. If it was a toy this idiot with dung for brains wanted people to think it was a real puppy, and that''s inexcusable. What might he do to a person if he was willing to carry out this stupid act, whether it was a real puppy or toy? He should be locked up and throw away the key.

[u243379]

I think the People have the right to know the punishment these Men received. The were in the military thus our taxes pais their salary and they should have to face that kind of embarresment.

[piercetheval]

Oh yes...the UGLY AMERICAN rears its head!

[rwm2_2000]

I''m glad to finally see the gov''t admit it was a real puppy...The really bad thing is how this story was killed by our gov''t. and I''m surprised to see anymore about it.

[bobnjersey]

[I''''m glad to finally see the gov''''t admit it was a real puppy...The really bad thing is how this story was killed by our gov''''t. and I''''m surprised to see anymore about it.]
[Posted by rwm2_2000 at 01:06 PM : Jun 12, 2008]

where did they admit it was a real puppy? it doesn''t look like they''re admitting anything other than:

"The actions seen in the Internet video are contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine and will not be tolerated," Marine Corps Base Hawaii said in a news release

[pvperson]

wow, imagine what punishment they would receive if they had killed a human being... ........I don''t think any of the soldiers involved in the killings of civilian women and children have been expelled, so I guess we know now that a puppy is more important than an Iraqie child.

[sleepyric]

this is the kind of guy who gets a thrill from killing....what''s next,,,girlfriend?? Serial killer?? freakin'' idiot....kick him out - he apparently doesn''t have a brain or a conscience.

[billchap-2009]

I agree with dobbershome. The idiot should be court martialed and given a dishonorable discharge. He''s a disgrace to the uniform.

[nothappyatall]

GOOD! it''s about time!
Now there''s about half a dozen (at least) of similar videos ALSO filmed over there of US troops abusing animals- including one who shot a dog at close range several times, taking his time while commenting about it to his buddies in a jovial fashion.

[rf35]

wow, imagine what punishment they would receive if they had killed a human being... ........I don''''t think any of the soldiers involved in the killings of civilian women and children have been expelled, so I guess we know now that a puppy is more important than an Iraqie child.

Posted by PVperson at 01:14 PM : Jun 12, 2008

Please send me the documentation/pictures of US military members killing innocent Iraqi civilians. I am in a position to investigate and bring them to justice, but I need to see the proof and be able to identify the service members involved.

The reason the puppy video draws so much outrage is because most dogs do not fire on our forces. If the insurgents could do no more than bite us, we might have a different attitude towards them, as well. Whatever your feelings in regards to the species of the victim, regulations prohibit handling stray animals anywhere in the Middle-East Theater. Therefore, these Marines were in violation whether they threw the puppy off a cliff or stopped to pet it.

[faith_in_w]

wow, imagine what punishment they would receive if they had killed a human being... ........I don''''''''t think any of the soldiers involved in the killings of civilian women and children have been expelled, so I guess we know now that a puppy is more important than an Iraqie child.

Posted by PVperson at 01:14 PM : Jun 12, 2008
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Well you cant say our government has its priorities screwed up. Bravo Bush!

[faith_in_w]

newster1, I dont see anything wrong with that.

[rf35]

faith_in_w

Why the name change? Did GOP_Soccer_Mom get banned? Too bad so many people couldn''t see the satire in those humorous posts. I, for one, got a chuckle out of every post.

[elukacek]

DAVICAR2 someone needs to chop your head off and fee it to a dog. I agree anyone who can harm an animal deserves severe punishment! Anyone who can harm an animal is able to harm another person just the same

[mswolfestock]

I have two dogs of my own, and I was sickened by that video. That poor little puppy KNEW that something bad would happen. Those Marines are a disgrace to The Corps, period. Every twisted sicko back here in the States who viewed that video got the idea that it''s okay to abuse animals because the Marines were doing it. So for that reason those guys should be thrown out - they have tarnished the image of the Marines.

The real point here is we need to stop the war so nobody gets killed by Marines in Iraq.

[omega39-2009]

Iraqi dogs, like Iraqi people, are the ENEMY. All this Marine did was KILL THE ENEMY...

Which, last time I checked, was the JOB of the Marines.

Posted by DaVicar2

Are you out of your friggin mind? It was a poor, dumb animal that had nothing but the misfortune to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when that sadistic SOB happened along. I read they had dropped standards in the armed services to meet their recruitment goals but I never would have believed they dropped them so low.

[taddles3]

"Iraqi dogs, like Iraqi people, are the ENEMY. All this Marine did was KILL THE ENEMY...

Which, last time I checked, was the JOB of the Marines.

This is a sad day indeed, when the USMC fires one of its own for doing what they trained him to do.

Posted by DaVicar2 at 01:12 PM : Jun 12, 2008

[taddles3]

"Iraqi dogs, like Iraqi people, are the ENEMY. All this Marine did was KILL THE ENEMY...

Which, last time I checked, was the JOB of the Marines.

This is a sad day indeed, when the USMC fires one of its own for doing what they trained him to do.

Posted by DaVicar2 at 01:12 PM : Jun 12, 2008"


You''re kidding right? It''s the job of the marine corps to kill civilians and animals? Do you really think that way? I hope you''re being sarcastic and not just stupid.

[taddles3]

"until you''''ve walked in that Marines shoes you can''''t say $hit!!!!


Posted by cornbiker at 02:24 PM : Jun 12, 2008"



Oh please, that''s BS. The marine threw a puppy off a cliff, what shoes do you have to walk in to realize that was a useless, cruel, ignorant thing to do. You really support those kinds of actions from the military? What next, you gonna support them shooting women and children? Guess we have to walk in their shoes to see that killing civilians is wrong too huh.

[sfden]

that''s about as low as you can go, harming an animal or a child, and I''m glad it was taken down before i saw it.
And you can bet a year''s pay he beats his girlfriend or wife.

[jersupporter]

No one ever claimed the Marines were ever that smart anyway. Semper Fi Bad Doggie

[l8c6]

We''re the good guys. They''re the bad guys.

[marbru-2009]

There''s nothing lower in life than someone who harms children, the elderly and helpless animals.

[rational_1]

Good for the Corps in throwing the cretin out. Wearing that uniform is a privilege and an honor. He isn''t good enough (or man enough) to be wearing it.

[skyhawk761]

where did they admit it was a real puppy? it doesn''''t look like they''''re admitting anything other than:

Posted by bobnjersey at 01:13 PM : Jun 12, 2008

(AP) The Marine Corps on Wednesday said it was expelling one Marine and disciplining another for their roles in a video showing a Marine throwing a puppy off a cliff while on patrol in Iraq.

Right there in the first paragraph you idiot.

[jesterbelle]

Good thing I wasn''t there.He would''ve found out how the puppy felt.

[pensacola88]

The USMC never trained their marines to kill or use deadly force against any living thing in the conditions depicted on the video. If this marine had done this in civilian clothes and not given any clues about his employer, USMC, I''m sure they wouldn''t be wasting any time with this issue.

All use of deadly force requires a marine to confirm the opponent''s intention to kill or endanger with deadly force. No puppy depicted in this video displayed any intentions to kill or endanger any marines.

This was a simple act of cruelty and stupidity. The USMC has no use for anyone fitting those descriptions to be employed or issued ammunition or weapons.

[skyhawk761]

The reason the puppy video draws so much outrage is because most dogs do not fire on our forces.

Posted by rf35 at 01:43 PM : Jun 12, 2008

Please tell me of just one time a puppy has ever fired on American forces in our entire history.

[ixoye_02]

What ever happened to the idea of serving one''s country honorably? Certainly, the military will be engaged in combat and providing security in Iraq...not recklessly killing puppies. One may argue that the effects of the stress and combat have taken a toll on some soldiers. But that argument can never be used as an excuse to not serve with dignity and honor because every soldier in Iraq were not compelled by anyone except themselves to join the military and serve our country. Throwing a puppy into a rocky gully serves no purpose other than plain cruelty. And if these marines even understood the concept of honor, they would be just doing their jobs and not being recklessly cruel just to let off some steam.

[mrvolleyba11]

a future serial killer in training! ...killing animals is where most serial killers get there start!!! shows lack a of morality and remorse, I wouldn''t want this man in my area after he is discharged!

[faith_in_w]

Lets put the blame where it belongs, right on Bill Clintons lap for starting this senseless war the our wonderful President Bush inherited. Obviously this soldier has snapped. He should be taken to the VA for treatment but because of Clintons hatred for the military, the VA doesnt exist anymore.

[skyhawk761]

Lets put the blame where it belongs, right on Bill Clintons lap for starting this senseless war the our wonderful President Bush inherited. Obviously this soldier has snapped. He should be taken to the VA for treatment but because of Clintons hatred for the military, the VA doesnt exist anymore.


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Posted by faith_in_W at 03:50 PM : Jun 12, 2008

Heck yes, you are correct, it is Clintons fault. If Bill hadn''t had his root blown none of this would have ever come about. He!! Eve never would have given Adam that dam apple if it weren''t for Bill. faith_in_W I think I''m in love with you.

[rjmcbs]

kill a puppy and you get kicked out of the marines
kill iraqi children in haditha - all charges dropped

[erasmus81]

I know what I would do. I''''d hang THEM up by their ''''you know what''''s'''' and drop THEM. See how THEY like it.

A-HOLES.

Posted by Katia327 at 03:58 PM : Jun 12, 2008

Thank you. You said EXACTLY what I was thinking.

[faith_in_w]

Katia327, he has been out there too long. He has snapped. Thanks to Clintons gutting iof the VA, he wont be getting fixed. Oh woe is us for Clinton starting this senseless war.

[johnstossel]

The only fitting punishment would be throwing those mofos off of a cliff.

[reedtaz73]

This is by far the dumbest story I''ve read on cbs this year...these marines are trained to kill. they are not trained to kill a certain type of animal, they''re just trained to kill. I love dogs, helll I have two myself, but to disipline for tossing a puppy during war time is too much. Come on you sissy, azz punks, this same guy was probably told to clear out a house full of insurgents hiding with women and children...you honestly think they give a rats azz about a dog while taking the life of human beings?

On certain levels, this country blows.

[xyno-2009]

Pensacola88 -- save your breath. These people don''t care about our military unless one of them dies and they can use it for their political gain.

And Jerryomara -- get some therapy bro. Seriously.

[reedtaz73]

I know what I would do. I''''d hang THEM up by their ''''you know what''''s'''' and drop THEM. See how THEY like it.

A-HOLES.- Katia327

Wow, such a childish remark. You''re upset cause he passed a puppy to dog heaven yet you talk about hanging a human. You need to get your priorities in order.
You won''t have to worry anymore...Oh but wait...This guy will have more than enough time on his hands to think of different ways to kill SOMETHING! Might be your next door neighbor so I suggest you get a dog......Sorry, I forgot dogs don''t work against marines.

[vnveteran72]

I can guarantee that this is not the first incident of Criminal Activity for this Slimy Little POS.
I hope when he gets back home, someone returns the favor.......

[caliengineer]

This guy was serving in a war environment. It gets so hot there, you drink and drink and drink water. The body armor only helps deplete your body of necessary minerals.
I was there. It can become difficult to think once you have consumed 6 liters of water with no food.
He can only be rightfully judged by his peers- other Marines. So, if you are not a Jarhead, keep quiet- you don''t rate.

Besides, wasn''t this a ruse? The puppy thrown was fake. The whimpering noise does not fade as the puppy increases in distance. The whimpering was faked by a bystander.

[msgtsteve]

Blow up 2 major buildings and kill thousands of people, all forgotten in about 3 years. Kill a puppy, OMG we have to do something!!!!
Blood makes the grass grow!
Master Sergeant of Marines!

[vnveteran72]

Iraqi dogs, like Iraqi people, are the ENEMY. All this Marine did was KILL THE ENEMY...

Which, last time I checked, was the JOB of the Marines.

This is a sad day indeed, when the USMC fires one of its own for doing what they trained him to do.


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Posted by DaVicar2 at 01:12 PM : Jun 12, 2008
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No, Scumbags like YOU are the enemy, of ALL Freedom Loving and Intelligent People Worldwide. Did your parents have any children that weren''t clueless retardds???

[mjm121]

This is by far the dumbest story I''''ve read on cbs this year...these marines are trained to kill. they are not trained to kill a certain type of animal, they''''re just trained to kill. I love dogs, helll I have two myself, but to disipline for tossing a puppy during war time is too much. Come on you sissy, azz punks, this same guy was probably told to clear out a house full of insurgents hiding with women and children...you honestly think they give a rats azz about a dog while taking the life of human beings?

On certain levels, this country blows.


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Posted by reedtaz73 at 04:24 PM : Jun 12, 2008

Reedtaz (***?) You are a piece of work. If we are really there to better that country, then maybe we should show humanity every once in awhile. Killing a puppy like that was not necessary. Who knows how this guys brain works...my bet...he is a danger to society. What adult would do such a thing? Clearly he has power issues...

[foxmulder33]

The young man was obviously disturbed and not worthy of service. He''s done nothing but whine and complain since the incident. Any idiot can put on the uniform. It takes class, guts and courage to be a Marine. Motari fell short of that mark.

[reedtaz73]

No, Scumbags like YOU are the enemy, of ALL Freedom Loving and Intelligent People Worldwide. Did your parents have any children that weren''''t clueless retardds??? - vnveteran72

What, like your mom did...wait, that''s right, the byitch had puppies.

[mjm121]

He can only be rightfully judged by his peers- other Marines. So, if you are not a Jarhead, keep quiet- you don''''t rate.


Posted by caliengineer at 04:55 PM : Jun 12, 2008


Not going to keep me quiet...sorry to say...he is being judged ALL OVER THE WORLD.