The Answer To Failed Urban Schools?

Washington's School Chancellor Hopes Her Tough Methods Will Yield Major Results

(CBS)  As she reads to a class of kindergarten students, it's hard to see the hard-edged Michelle Rhee -- the 38-year-old school chancellor who is turning the D.C. Public Schools upside down.

"Let me see who's working nicely," Rhee says

Rhee is not doing it nicely, reports CBS News correspondent Wyatt Andrews.

Just one year into office, Rhee has closed 23 schools, fired 34 principals, offered buyouts to 700 teachers, while pressuring hundreds more to leave-and fired 98 employees at the central school office.

"Drastic change is needed because the situation is incredibly dire," Rhee says.

School reform on this scale was the brainchild of D.C.'s Mayor Adrian Fenty.

"We saw a system where mismanagement reigned," Fenty says.

Fenty's 2006 election mandate to improve the schools was so strong, he got rid of the elected school board and then found Rhee, who for a decade had been running a nonprofit group successfully recruiting thousands of new teachers for urban schools nationwide.

He hired Rhee with orders to take no prisoners.

"Chancellor Rhee and I are saying the days of talk are over … We've gotta move fast," Fenty says.

Chancellor Rhee is convinced that every child-even the most disadvantaged-can learn and achieve if taught by a motivated teacher in a school led by a driven principal.

For example, when Andrews visited DC's Coolidge High School, he found a geometry class on task and well behaved but also a current events class where students were literally screaming out of control.

Rhee argues the difference is the teacher.

"So it's not about this group of kids just happens to want to learn and this group of kids doesn't," she says. "It's about what are we inspiring? What are we doing in the classroom?"

Rhee's angriest critics say all she's produced so far is chaos, and worse, that she fired all those principals without notice or probation.

"When you fire the principals and you don't give reasons why, that's not right," parent Cherita Whiting says.

Lots of other parents though support Rhee's policy of no excuses.

"Whatever is necessary," says Jackie Clopton. "If you're not doing what's best for the kids, then you need to be removed."

"Nobody hired me into this position and said, 'Make the adults feel good, Michelle,' Rhee says. "When the mayor hired me into this job, he said, 'Improve the schools.'"

So she now faces the test of a lifetime. A woman who has never run a school system is testing her theory that better teaching is the answer to failed urban schools.

[notopennshut]

I totally agree that teachers who are not up to the job should not be in the system. In my city of Ann Arbor, the teacher''s union is so strong that it is almost impossible to get rid of anyone. There is a teacher at one of the high schools who should have been "retired" long ago. Complaints have been made to principals, superintendent etc.. but she is still on the job. She is a "grader" of english AP exams, and therefore held in high esteem. Check out her class of AP students- worst amongst those of the school because she does not teach and thinks she is beyond anyone/anything. She does not keep accurate records of students'' work/tests, loses them, and totally unorganized. The principal is aware of these problems because he was there when we "found" the "lost" papers amongst her piles. Yet she cannot be dismissed! What would it take?? This is supposed to be top MI school, yet have these teachers who is just waiting to collect her retirment. No one can do anything. Need someone like Rhee to come and clean up even though this school is supposedly to be a "good" school, and principal/superintendent keep on harping on what a great school this is. A real disservice to all the students who have been unfortunate to be assigned to her class. No way to avoid it either, since they are not allowed to switch unless it is a conflict with time. Teachers unions are the ones keeping these useless staff and destroying our children''s futures.

[ericmichael1]

Just another reason NOT to become a teacher!

People point at the teachers who endure low pay, lower societal status, and children who are not disciplined by their parents. Why would anyone ever endure what these DC employees are enduring en masse? Shame on these politicians!

It stinks as much as No Child Left Behind!

Eric

[downsteamjim]

Clean up DC education, make liberals send their children to these schools. Just kidding. That would be treating them like the downstrodden and they are so much better than that.

[my2centss]

Firing teachers to fix schools? I have always been told by politicians that we just need to throw more money at them.

[ubrew12]

"The Answer To Failed Urban Schools?" is to
Stop robbing urban America to pay rural America.
Rural american communities typically get THREE TIMES as much Federal aid per capita as urban communities. We routinely (and for many decades) rob places like Wash DC to pay rural Wyoming. The result: excellent schools in Wyoming, while DC sucks.

check out:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html
and you''ll know I''m not lying.

[cfin5]

My Dad and his siblings went to a ONE ROOM SCHOOL HOUSE. It was amazing how many Doctors and Lawyers came out of that School. Don''t give me no malarkey that its money they need,...its morals. What was the schools "big issue" in the 50''s?...Running in the Halls and chewing gum under the desk?....GASP! Why those ungrateful little HEATHENS! Then they kicked God out of school and now children are murdering their classmates and themselves. The government now has the "problems" they needed to self-justify breaking the 9th. Amendment to confiscate our 2nd. Amendment rights,.....then ALL of the other "certain" (guaranteed) rights we have left will be defenseless.......VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!

[catlady1412]

Religion was NEVER taught in public schools. Apparently HISTORY was not taught either or all the people screaming about it being taken out would know that. Religion is taught in church so you could teach your kid your own beliefs. People would be furious if their kid was taught beliefs other than their own (see squawk over evolution for proof of that!). If a kid can''t behave in school, send kid home to parents indefinitely! The lazy parents will get sick of that and maybe they will start doing their job and discipline the kid!

[cfin5]

Noah Webster

(The father of public education in America)

He declared government was responsible to:

"Discipline our youth in early life in sound maxims of moral, political, and religious duties."

"Education is useless without the Bible."

"The Bible was America''s basic text book in all fields."

"God''s Word, contained in the Bible, has fumished all necessary rules to direct our conduct."

"In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed....No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people."

[cfin5]

Daniel Webster

"There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men and become the instruments of their own undoing."

"Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and to the Republic for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster, and what has happened once in 6000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail, there will be anarchy throughout the world."

"If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instruction and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may ovenvhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity."

"Finally, let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers were brought hither by their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate its principles with the elements of their society, and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political, or literary.

[apprxam]

I don''t know about the bible, but the ability to read would be nice.

The problem with urban schools, first, was been the misguilded and wasteful pursuit of intergration as opposed to fixing the schools themselves. To force black children to sit next to people who didn''t want them near their children has been for naught. Four generations of children lost and still segragated. What urban school should do is segregate them further; placing motivated students on one campus and the non-motivated elsewhere. We sent themm across town or out of town because of race, doing it because of achievement is moral and constitutional.

[apprxam]

The cure is the end of liberal, baby-sitting policies that hasn''t worked for over forty years. No new math or ebonics. No ethnic studies or other "feel" good curicula that makes fool of children who have no idea how the Western World works. Teach those who can grasp everything white chldren are taught: Greco-Roman history, mythology. Science, history and real, freakin math. Just those easy steps will close the achievement gap between blacks and whites. Make them responsible for themselves and not the entire community.

Base placement of students on merit and individual achievement and expectations of black student must be elevated. The environment in these schools do not allow for those willing to learn to do so. These schools allow one or two students to disrupt the entire class because they have more right than those in control and ready to learn.

[catlady1412]

Neither Noah Webster or Daniel Webster are here right now and even if they believed Christianity should be taught in schools to fix the problems, it won''t happen. You can''t teach that without teaching other religions equally and acknowledging atheists as well. In my high school, they offered the Bible as Literature as the only way they could introduce the subject. Teachers are having enough trouble teaching math, science (again, the squawk about evolution), reading, without having to deal with parents not teaching their own kids manners, courtesy and religion. Why should the teachers have to do all that? Are they paid so much that they should have to bathe, feed and clothe the kids on top of teaching them the 3 R''s and religion? What are the parents for? Just biological material?

[catlady1412]

Oh, and neither quote from the Websters says to teach Christianity and the priciples of the Bible in the schools. They just said they felt everyone should learn them and follow them for a better society. This is all before massive immigration introduced religions other than Christianity into our society. Sure, other religions were here, but they were the minority and so not considered by the Founding Fathers and others in power when laws were made and opinions bloviated. Religion in schools won''t solve the problems that kids are out of control. Parents have to solve this stuff at home first! My parents let me know I was dead if I caused a scene at school or in a public place. They did not invoke God to make me behave, just proper punishment for unacceptable behavior.

[apprxam]

Catlady, I think you''re right about the parental aspect, but I think society is lost in that sense of controlling children. In NYC, part of a liberal, baby-sitter state, parents have been rendered powerless and sans authority. So in places like urban communities, power of the child has been substituted for that of the parent, just look who runs the streets, either police or street children. The science and art of parenting is lost on no less than three generations of adults in these cities; they just don''t how to parent, period. In Harlem, Jamaica, Queens, Brooklyn, Newark and Paterson, NJ, men aren''t allowed to protect their neighborhoods from crime and other threats and that science, let slone the art, is lost on many people. Rearing children is legacy, lessons handed down from adult to child, but that chain was broken 30-40 years ago.

[galaxiana]

When I found out my nephew was Valedictorian of his high-school graduating class of 587 students, I was so excited for him... until I found out there were SIXTY valedictorians!!!!!!!!! SIXTY! I guess in this day and age of "No Child Left Behind," every child''s a freakin'' valedictorian!

Our schools are definitely in need of drastic measures. This "No Child Leftr Behind" *** is at the root of all of our educational problems today. Kids are learning how to take tests, not how to evaluate situations and data and apply principles.

[cfin5]

Parents have to solve this stuff at home first! My parents let me know I was dead if I caused a scene at school or in a public place. They did not invoke God to make me behave, just proper punishment for unacceptable behavior.

Posted by catlady1412 at 12:13 AM : Jun 12, 2008----Mine did also. I hated it at the time, but am thankful they did it. It''s much better then than prison latter. My wife and I told our kids they might be craftier than us, but the Sheriff Department takes over for us as your new disciplinarians for the rest of your life when of age to be on your own,.....And they can and will throw you in jail for disobedience. They''re not suckers either. Your parents did teach you a biblical principal whether they realized it or not. Proverbs 22:6 - Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

[apprxam]

galaxiana, I don''t think much of "Leave no Child Behind", but I doubt these problems began only 7.5 years ago. The combination of liberal interferrence and conservative apathy and just the general running of thing by people who either don''t know how or care and that has been a long time coming.

I''m no fan of Bush, but the crux of the matter is accountablity, even if it isn''t funded, the principle is basic and necessary. Another aspect of LNCB is perantal choice. Those who care enough should be free to choose, no matter the consequince to teacher''s union, community leaders and poor performing students. Parent who care and want help should be given the right to pass that on to their children for whom they are responsible.

[apprxam]

Rhee is not doing it nicely, reports CBS News correspondent Wyatt Andrews.

Just one year into office, Rhee has closed 23 schools, fired 34 principals, offered buyouts to 700 teachers, while pressuring hundreds more to leave-and fired 98 employees at the central school office.

"Drastic change is needed because the situation is incredibly dire,"

CBS News

Dire is an understatement. I remember listening to an NPR report about a valedictorian from a D.C. High School and based on his placing at the top of his school, received entry into MIT, where during the summer before attending, he and other urban school children (that''s the nice way of say BLACK BOYS) went to the campus for remediation and they were crushed to find how much they just didn''t know. The young man dropped himself from the program, his confidence shattered. It was so heart breaking to see how this process of helping them only ended up hurting them. It''s time to be honest with these children and treat them just like anyone else. No Affirmative-Action or pitty curriculums to make them feel good. How pernicious the half-hearted attempts to bring these children into the fold by violating the very principle of higher education. MERIT. And that requires a real attempt to teach them during their early years. These aren''t basketball players granted a pass on learning to get to the hardwood. These student have brains that need to be filled.

[darnedsocks]

THE REASON THE SCHOOLS ARE SO BAD IS THAT THE ACLU -- ORIGINALLY FOUNDED BY COMMUNISTS -- HAS SOUGHT TO SUE THE DICKENS OUT OF ANY SCHOOL THAT ACTUAL IMPLEMENT DISCIPLINE! HOW MANY TEACHERS HAVE BEEN BRUTALLY RAPED, BEATEN, ATTACKED, BULLIED, ETC. BY THEIR STUDENTS!

THE KEY IS NOT BEING AFRAID TO IMPLEMENT DISCIPLINE, SO THE CLASSROOM CAN BE SAFE FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND TEACHERS.

[sociald63]

future section 8 candidates

[apprxam]

When the teacher''s Union and the ACLU and other liberal oranizations protest this fall and claim they deserve their jobs no matter the results, I hope that the Mayor and Ms. Rhee have the backing of goverment and other groups to muster a fight and stand by their new-found principles.

If this was happening to white students on Long Island, the ACLU would give legal assistance to the School District or System because their children, the future "reds" of America needs to learn how to read the U.S. Constitution so that they, too, can learn how to decontruct it and continue to use it to disadvantage black children for another 40 years.

[michellem99-2009]

What parenets. It may surprise ye that there are a group of children barred from in the 50s and early 60s..Yep I was one. Not being bad but multi handicapped. This lady thinks she is mean - hell I think other wise,

[michellem99-2009]

she can''t do this my friend said. We are Ameicans. It the govt that told yer parents they can''t place a tap or 2 on the bottom. It the govt that took prayer out of school before I was born. It the govt that barred me from school. It the govt that put me in foster homes. It the govt that is seeing what they soe.

[rudy654-2009]

Posted by ApprxAm at 01:50 AM

Why don''t you put the blame where it belongs? On the parents! What do you do with kids that refuse to participate and refuse to do homework or anything else? And then when you call the parents, they respond with: "You better not be harrassing my little angel!" I get sick and tired of people like you blaming the teachers who get so little pay, while being required to be highly qualified as per the NCLBA, only to be slapped back by the likes of you. No wonder its hard to find new teachers anymore.

[keithle1]

Talk about your thankless jobs. Oy vey!

Name a city with a black majority population that has a good school system with a high graduation rate & low truancy.

Of course it comes down to the parents! Kids need discipline & order. Don''t try to be your kid''s best friend. If your parents care about where you go & how late you stay out then you don''t need a curfew in a city. Stay involved & participate in your kid''s education. Go to the PTA meetings.

If you can''t handle the responsibility & hard work of raising kids, don''t have them. Discover a little something called BIRTH CONTROL, people. You know, CONDOMS. This is the 21st century. We''re not living in the Amazon jungle.

Baby mamas have kids who usually end up as thugs & criminals. Not always but a lot. A teenage girl is not mature enough. It''s not normal. They can''t handle being a parent.

How many of the men behind bars would say that they had at least one parent who really loved them, cared about them & put them first? Maybe 5%? Very few.

[keithle1]

The black boys are the real problem. They do things that are a recipe for disaster. How To Really Mess Up Your Life Before It Starts 101.

They drop out of high school. Get girls pregnant. "Look at me! I''m a major pimp/playa!" A lot of them end up dealing drugs or in gangs. Young black men shooting & killing other young black men every day. You know it. I know it. We all know it.

It''s a lot easier to motivate the black girls than the black boys when it comes to high school/university. The black boys just don''t care unless it involves a ball. Sports rule. They worship pro athletes. Sitting in a library studying? Getting all A''s? Wha----? That''s acting white. They don''t want to be a "nerd." All about being COOL 24-7. Picking up the ladies. The only thing they want to read is the sports page & the label on a bottle of Colt 45.

When was the last time a black boy (not one born in Africa) was voted valedictorian of any high school in the USA? They do not care.

Black women are graduating from university left & right. They don''t want to marry a high school dropout or someone with no plans to ever go to university. 70% of black women are single.

[dobbershome]

Too bad we couldn''t find somebody like this to do the same thing to our corrupt goverment!!!!!!!!!!1!

[cfin5]

Patrick Henry

March 23, 1775


"The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed."

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience are incompatible with freedom."

"It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains."

[cusefanjapan]

When was the last time a black boy (not one born in Africa) was voted valedictorian of any high school in the USA? They do not care.
Posted by Keithle1 at 06:13 AM :
Your comment borders on being the most ignorant I''ve ever read. Have you checked every high school in America? You, that other fool myopinion1 and people like you are way worse for America than ALL the people you disparage.

[cusefanjapan]

Good luck chancellor and mayor. No matter what some ignorant fools say, most people don''t want to live in that situation and they are not all bad or hopeless.

[concorde5]

Keithle1.....You are a racist! You are the problem and you don''t even realize it! You want to blame everything on Black boys but you say nothing to the white business owner or manager who won''t even hire black men. Black men get criticized all the time but I work at a company that won''t hire Blacks or any minority unless they are more qualified than whites. Blacks MUST have a college degree to get hired and ignorant uneducated whites get hired all the time with just a high school diploma.

That is just the tip of the iceberg. Racism still exists and it still holds blacks down in MANY more ways that you will EVER admit. Racism is not the only reason for the problem but it contributes greatly to it. Until you take an honest look at the problem, there will never be a solution.

[questionnews]

"People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education, and now we''ve got these knuckleheads walking around. . . . The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting."

"I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn''t know that he had a pistol? And where is the father?"

"People putting their clothes on backward: Isn''t that a sign of something gone wrong? . . . People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn''t that a sign of something, or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up? Isn''t it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up . . . and got all type of needles (piercing) going through her body? What part of Africa did this come from? We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don''t know a . . . thing about Africa."

Quotes from Bill Cosby at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition conference.

[questionnews]

"With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that ***, and all of them are in jail. Brown versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person''s problem. We have got to take the neighborhood back. . . . They are standing on the corner and they can''t speak English."

"People used to be ashamed. . . . [Today] a woman has eight children with eight different ''husbands,'' or men or whatever you call them now."

"We have millionaire football players who can''t read. We have million-dollar basketball players who can''t write two paragraphs."

"We cannot blame white people%u2026"

More quotes from Bill Cosby at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition conference.

[concorde5]

Everyone is failing our children. The parents are failing the government is failing and the teachers are failing our children. We send them to schools where they don''t have books, the school is falling apart, heat doesn''t work in the winter, and we put the dumbest college graduates in charge of educating our children and wonder why they can''t learn.

My son goes to a school that is predominantly Black and Hispanic. I had to go to the superintendent to get books for him! They just had class sets of books and sent my son home every evening with homework for Algebra II and Biology, and chemistry with NO BOOKS! Minority schools are underfunded. We fund schools based on property taxes. So if you live in a wealthy area, your child has books, computers, new schools, and good teachers. If you live in a poor area....Well you get the point.

And we wonder why the children aren''t learning. It''s time to wake up and save our children. we need to stop blaming and talking and start doing. Fund the schools fairly, Pay more and get better teachers instead of these idiots who are currently becoming teachers. When I was in college the only people who went into education were the ones who failed something else. We must pay more and get better teachers!

[cheddarboy82]

concorde5 - Why should white business owners have to hire blacks ? There are so many businesses owned by blacks, small percantage compare to white owned businesses but none the less there out there. And guess white, a lot of them don''t hire whites I bet. Reality check it goes both way''s and blacks shouldn''t blame whites for not hiring them. If you own a business, it should be 100% up to you who you hire, you own it. It is not against the law to not like blacks. On a side note, take a look a violent crime statistics, what is it 52% of violent crimes are committed by Blacks but only make up 15% percent of the nation. I wouldn''t take the risk hiring one either. Rasicm isn''t the problem, it''s blacks always bringing it up playing the race card. I find it funny how whites can only be racist to some people. Watch some stand up on BET, see how much they like whites.

[concorde5]

Cheddarboy....You just proved my point. You spewed all that racist nonsense and just said you wouldn''t hire a black person but you yell and scream because the black person is not working. That is my point exaxtly! Racism still effects not only blacks but all minorities. Racists like you refuse to give minorities an equal and fair chance.

If you remember in the 90''s when clinton created millions of jobs, gues What, Crime went way down, people went to work and everyone did better. People turn to crime because there are no other options.

When you can''t feed your family because some corporation decided to give your job to china or india, what are you to do? Go to some fast food place and work 60 hours a week and still can''t afford a place to live.

It''s time to wake up!

[cusefanjapan]

More quotes from Bill Cosby at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition conference.
Posted by Questionnews at 10:42 AM
OK. So what? Why do so many of you feel the need to quote Bill Cosby or Jesse Jackson (when you are not busy calling him a racist) every time something like this comes up? They don''t speak for all black people and I think most blacks understand the nature of the problem, anyway. Also, how come the (greater number of) poor whites who are on welfare or have kids out of wedlock or stay at home and drink beer in their trailer all day are never mentioned by the bigots who are always quick to point out the problems with other groups? The government spends WAY more on them than on blacks. Go ahead and point out that as a percentage blacks make up more. WE KNOW THAT. But don''t come talking like whites aren''t getting handouts. Memo to all of you: Blacks know what''s wrong and the VAST majority want to see changes. All of you smart posters who seem to know everything need to apply all your great ideas in person instead of using your keyboard to show your ignorance. Believe me, people are dying to hear your bright ideas.

[wattermelann]

It''s not the teachers'' fault. It is the college that trains them, the district that underpays them, the principal that misleads them, the staff that doesn''t support them, the psychologist who isn''t there, the parents that doesn''t care, and the unsupported students that resists them. Teaching is a lose-lose situation-a catch 22.

[libh8er]

OMG....someone actually trying to bring some sense back in to the public school system? That won''t last long. By the time the NEA and the ACLU get ahold of this chick, she''ll be lucky if she can get a job at BK.

Another colossal lib failure....government run schools.

[johnstossel]

You go girl!!! I live in a southern rural area, but I used to live in a northeastern city of 100,000 people plus. When I made the decision to move south it was because the schools in the northeast area among other things. Good luck, Michelle, I''m pulling for you!!!

[chad55555]

Having been a teacher for years,retired. The largest problem with education is Teachers have failed their students,teachers worry more about time off,sick pay,vacation(added in during regular pay for summer months)medical benifits and retire benifits. Most teachers make more then the students''s parents and teaching Mexicans and Aricans has become the # one issue for America,to take money from the older people and cause them to lose their home. If your fair and try to give equal time for education your called racial.As you can see it;s not an easy issue to solve until this country becomes a country for the people ,for the people and by the people.WE CAN''T EDUCATE EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IN AMERICA AND EXPECT TO DO A GOOD JOB ON OUR TAX SYSTEM AS IT IS.AMERICA SHOULD HAVE HAD A 200 million people population in the 1960''s and stopped anyone else from comming to America until a place opened up for them. OTHERS COUNTRIES HAVE IT AND IT''S WORKIG. TOO LATE FOR AMERICA NOW.

[dobbershome]

I wish her the best. Sounds like a tough lady.

[mantaloking]

We sure could use Michelle Rhee here in Richmond, VA. Your reporters could be describing most of the Richmond City Schools. She could begin with a clean sweep of MLK Middle School. But, also, Rhee could beam with pride over Community High School, and William Fox Elementary School.

[michellem99-2009]

People I am applled that that fool forgive me had the ball to say no child left behand anf really I was/am in tears when he saids that. bush he can''t talk right. God Allmighty who taught him. Ye can''t underatand can ye. What happen to America. What..I am poor. Some of us who is Irish American were dumped in America in 1847. Are we illegals...

[keithle1]

A lot of black people don''t like it when whites criticize the behavior of blacks. Even if what you''re saying is 100% true. They can''t call you "racist" fast enough.

Hell, they don''t even want to hear criticism from Bill Cosby & he''s one of them!

[michellem99-2009]

Keithle ye good people. We are human beings as my late Aunt told me. I know that my kin from Iraland was dumped here in 1847..we are white ..so what..It don''t matter to me what colour we are..I am legally Blind. The first thing is the voice that tell me their gender.