FBI Alarmed At Murder Rate Among Black Men

2007 Statistics Show Decline In Violent Crimes; Black Teen Murders On The Rise

(AP)  Both violent and property crimes in the United States declined in 2007 from the previous year, the FBI reported Monday. But one expert warned the figures could mask a growing murder problem among young black men.

In preliminary figures for crimes reported to police, the bureau said the number of violent crimes declined by 1.4 percent from 2006, reversing two years of rising violent crime numbers. Violent crime had climbed 1.9 percent in 2006 and 2.3 percent in 2005, alarming federal and local officials.

Property crimes were down 2.1 percent last year from the previous year, the largest drop in the last four years.

Because the FBI preliminary figures do not contain the detailed breakdowns by age, race and gender of the final report that comes later in the year, one expert, James Alan Fox, said they may unintentionally mask a growing murder rate among black male teenagers and young adults, particularly with guns.

"We shouldn't be fooled into thinking our problems are over," said Fox, a criminal justice professor at Northeastern University. Fox said that from 2002 to 2006, the rate of murder committed by black male teens rose 52 percent.

"Violence is down among whites of all ages and both genders; it's up among black males, not black females," Fox said. "When you blend all the national numbers together you fail to see this divergence. There are many more whites in the population, so their decline can dwarf the increase among young black males."

Fox said black males are "feeling the impact of the economic decline and an increase in gangs and illegal gun markets. Gangs and youth crime are a growing problem despite these rosy statistics."

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said, "One preliminary report does not make a trend, but it's going the way we want it to go." Kolko cautioned against putting too much significance on any shift that hasn't lasted at least two years.

Justice Department spokesman Peter Carr called the report "very encouraging" though he noted the final report could alter the figures.

"The report suggests that violent crime is decreasing and remains near historic low levels, which is a credit to increased cooperation among federal, state and local law enforcement," Carr said. "Some communities, however, continue to face localized violent crime challenges."

The largest declines were in vehicle theft, down 8.9 percent and in rape, down 4.3 percent and murder, down 2.7 percent.

The crime trends were not uniform. Murders, for instance, were down in cities of more than 250,000, including an enormous 9.8 percent drop in cities of more than a million residents. But murders rose in some small cities - up 3.7 percent in cities of 50,000 to 100,000, up 1.9 percent in cities of 100,000 to 250,000, and up 1.8 percent in cities under 10,000. Historically, murder trends have begun in the largest cities and moved over several years to smaller ones.

The other violent crimes tracked by FBI statistics - robbery and aggravated assault - were both down 1.2 percent.

The other property crimes in the FBI figures also declined, larceny-theft by 1.2 percent and burglary by 0.8 percent.

The FBI's preliminary crime report each year gives percentage changes rather than crime totals for national figures because not every jurisdiction has completed its reports yet.

[killface7]

Just what do they care about? The US Govt is killing people faster by neglect and bombs than gangbangers do. Stop telling us that you care. Where is the solution?

[feelfree4u]

Re: "FBI Alarmed At Murder Rate Among Black Men"

I''m sure that the feeling is mutual.

[feelfree4u]

linymo,

RE: "Then, workers can come in with the proper permits but all will be searched."

I doubt that this would have any effect on CIA coke shipments from South and Central America, or on CIA opium shipments from our new top supplier in Afghanistan.

Re: "They all failed to secure the southern border..."

What about the Northern border?

Sounds like you just hate and fear Mexicans.

Thw War on Drugs (WOD) is a dismal, self-defeating failure- by design.

[l00ker]

Ready for the Truth? I doubt it but here it is! It is drugs, drugs, drugs and five failed Presidents. Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush. They all failed to secure the southern border and millions of pounds of drugs have flowed almost freely into the US and resulted in gang wars among minorities. Until we get an honest President, we have no hope. The border has to be shut and no excuses. Then, workers can come in with the proper permits but all will be searched. Don''''t want to do it, then say hello to a broken pathetic land owned by drugs. Hello, anyone out there listening?

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Posted by linymo at 03:15 PM : Jun 09, 2008
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You have a lot of valid points, especially the open border and drug flow ones, but I''ll add a couple such as:

a. lack of parental guidance.

b. lack of self esteem and self respect.

c. lack of respect for others.

d. lack of work ethic.

e. no education, no goals, no hope.


...just to name a few, but the work begins at
home and in the black community...no free lunch here.

[feelfree4u]

Re: "...just to name a few, but the work begins at
home and in the black community...no free lunch here."

Posted by l00ker

I was wondering how long it would take for the race-baiting dopes to chime in.

This comment stinks of Michael Totten.

[nvorr]

You have a lot of valid points, especially the open border and drug flow ones, but I''''ll add a couple such as:

a. lack of parental guidance.

b. lack of self esteem and self respect.

c. lack of respect for others.

d. lack of work ethic.

e. no education, no goals, no hope.


...just to name a few, but the work begins at
home and in the black community...no free lunch here.
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Posted by l00ker at 03:28 PM : Jun 09, 2008


Add to that the fact that you can''t discipline your kids when they do wrong. You know---spare the rod, spoil the child. I''m old school. Bust that tale when they do wrong. Not count to ten and put them in time out.

[candy-apple]

We can tell that the study wasn''t conducted in New Orleans!!!

[acolton1]

When I watch the news I am seeing more crimes by Latinos and Illegal Mexicans then Blacks lately. Kansas City is having issues with Illegals over in Kansas City Kansas and crime and shootings much more then Blacks.

[feelfree4u]

Chances are that murders, torture, abuse, etc. of non-whites and activists by corrupt pigs remains steady or on the rise.

[feelfree4u]

RE: "...the solution is when the black community would STOP listening to these bleeding heart liberals..starts carrying thier own weight and responsibilities and STOP expecting everybody to give them everything because they are black.."

The Zionists are clearly a far greater problem in these areas. Shouldn''t we start with them?

[feelfree4u]

""...the solution is when the Zionist community would STOP listening to these goose-stepping fascists..start carrying their own weight and responsibilities and STOP expecting everybody to give them everything because they are Zionists.."

[prairiefox1]

AND THEY CLAIM THAT WHITES HATE THEM! WHY THEY HATE EACH OTHER!
IS THIS THE GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THE WHITES?
IN OTHER WORDS WE WHITES ARE SUPPOSED TO LIKE THEM AS THEY LIKE EACH OTHER!
NOW, I GET IT!

[sociald63]

same old story -

[beehive21-2009]

You people look at one stat 75 % of the Blacks are raised by a single women on welfare / Farrakan,the black men are a National disgrace, they leave the women to raise the children in poverty ,and go father another and another.Why are you black men doing this ?

[blazercoach1]

I find it unfortunate that this so-called expert chose to blame three things outside of the responsibility of the individual: the economy, gangs, and gun markets.

Unfortunately, this is typical when it comes to minority ethnic group problems...and it does nothing to solve the problem as it continues to make those affected feel like helpless victims rather than enabled actors for the solution.

Couldn''t he just as easily have pointed towards the rise in broken homes for black children? Or the rise in unwed and teenage pregnancies? How much does the responsibility lay WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY for promoting this violence either passively OR actively?

I wonder if he thinks it''s up to white folks to solve the problem and do something about the things he pointed out......

[sociald63]

there is no hope - unless you rap or play pro ball ...

[cjw3cma]

Face it - it is a cultural thing. many intercity youth today believe that crime is the only way to get what they want, since fair paying jobs are now mostly off shore. Ya know, you got to have those $125 shoes and the name branded clothing - and walfare checks just don''t seem to ever be enough.

Youth without direction will turn to crime to get what they want. And murder rates will continue to climb. Sad but ever so true.

[feelfree4u]

Re: "How much does the responsibility lay WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY for promoting this violence either passively OR actively?"

Gee, I don''t know. How much does the responsibility lay WITHIN THE WHITE COMMUNITY for promoting torture, mass murder, dangerous/deadly corrupt pigs, and criminal wars of aggression?

[jboxton]

Was this any suprise? Did they have to do a study to know this? Hip hop culture embraces the thug mentality so of course this would be the case

[simplemind2]

Somehow I''m not surprised because it almost goes hand in hand with the rising numbers of proud single parent.

[feelfree4u]

Re: "Ya know, you got to have those $125 shoes and the name branded clothing..."

I agree. Western marketing and greedy corporations are a big part of this problem.

They actively promote overconsumption just to line their own pockets. They couldn''t care less what social and environmental problems that this might lead to, so long as they are profiting from it.

The funny thing is, the same racist fools that blame minorities for their problems seem to be the same ones that worship them when they have a sports uniform on.

[smiley676]

They actively promote overconsumption just to line their own pockets. They couldn''''t care less what social and environmental problems that this might lead to, so long as they are profiting from it.

The funny thing is, the same racist fools that blame minorities for their problems seem to be the same ones that worship them when they have a sports uniform on.



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Posted by FeelFree4U


People choose to be the way they are. Marketing or not, everyone who didn''t kill someone saw those same ads, but chose peace. This cannot be blamed on anyone, but the murderers themselves.

Are there really that many people blaming minorities for their problems? Most of the time I see minorities blaming "whitey".

[denn034]

The gang and perpetual victim mentality within the black community is the problem here. There has to be a fundamental change in their culture before the murder rate will decline significantly or cease entirely.

[feelfree4u]

RE: "Are there really that many people blaming minorities for their problems?"

Posted by smiley676

Yup. But they also worship them when they have a ball of some sort on their hands.

[davewrite1]

Although most people continue to think of races as physically distinct populations, scientific advances in the 20th century demonstrated that human physical variations do not fit a %u201Cracial%u201D model. Our genes do not place us into a distinct groups in accord with conventional race categories. DNA analyses have proved that all humans have much more in common, genetically, than they have differences. Geographically widely separated populations vary from one another in only about 6 to 8 percent of their genes. Because of the overlapping of traits that bear no relationship to one another (such as skin colour and hair texture) and the inability of scientists to cluster peoples into discrete racial packages, modern researchers argue that the concept of race has no biological validity. Race as used in the United States is a social and political construct derived from our nation''s history. It has no basis in science. The biologic concept of race is now believed to be untenable. -- Harold P. Freeman, M.D., a researcher with Celera. Racism, and its social consquences will end when we stop pretending there''s any such thing as race.

[feelfree4u]

Re: "to think the Democrats have picked a Black man to run for President.Guess they didn''''t read the stats on Blacks and Murder in America."

Posted by cornbiker

Our current Dear Leader is responsible for more murder than probably any single person alive on the planet.

(psssst- He''s not a Democrat, and he''s not black.)

[ddkem]

Hip-hop music glorifies violence. It''s the role model these young black males are flocking to, in the absence of their fathers at home. They embrace the ''gangsta'' life and then cry ''help us''! and blame whites for their communities problems.

[feelfree4u]

ddkem,

RE: "Hip-hop music glorifies violence."

A lot of it does, and a lot of it doesn''t. Much like Rock-and-Roll music.

Re: "It''s the role model these young black males are flocking to..."

Young white males, and others, as well.

[sistatee-2009]

Thanks to the thugs that infest the NBA and NFL, the bad-boy Rap artists who glorify the gangster, drug dealer lifestyle, and the lack of parents and education, what do you expect? Huh?

[lalabradle]

It''s sad. But all I can say is, we want to blame rap music, unwed mothers etc. for certain behavior within a culture. But who is responsible for the white kids who go to school, malls, universities and kill a bunch of people with no motivation. The only thing that is said about them is, they had some type of disfunction. And hey what about serial killers (98% white males) who kill for pleasure?

[lalabradle]

I work for law enforcement. In L.A. right now the worst gangs and the largest gangs are Latinos.

[jboxton]

Unfortunately, there is a gene inherent in black people that cause them to commit crimes. I hate to say it''s not their fault, but it is genetics.

[darnedsocks]

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY: ONE DAD, ONE MOM WHO ONLY HAVE CHILDREN WITH EACH OTHER; NOT SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE. PROMISCUITY IS THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM. THIS IS ALSO WHY THE AIDS/HERPES RATE IS HIGHEST AMONG THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE / YOUNG MEN RUNNING AROUND WITH NO FATHER TO DISCIPLINE THEM AND TEACH THEM THAT THERE ARE SOCIAL BOUNDARIES THAT HUMANS MUST OBSERVE IN ORDER TO SURVIVE AND SUCCEED, SUCH AS DIGNITY FOR YOUR BODY AND YOUR RELATIONSHIPS AND COMPASSION FOR OTHERS; THEN THEY RUN WILD, AIMLESS, CONFUSED, SCARED.

IN AREAS OF AFRICA WHERE AFRICANS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED TO CHRISTIANITY, THE AIDS RATES HAVE DRAMATICALLY DECREASED, BECAUSE PROMISCUITY HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH MONOGAMY.

[frankive]

To all you plate head racists who think all blacks are violent, consider this:
The white male is the most violent beast on the planet. He has killed,
20 million Native Americans,
18 million Africans in the slave trade,
17 million in British controlled India,
8 million Africans in the Congo,
20 million in World War I,
72 million in World War II,
5.1 million in Vietnam.
Blacks have never killed on these scales.
Next time you see yourself in the mirror white man you will be looking
at the definition of violence!

[feelfree4u]

Nice one, "frankive"!

[darnedsocks]

VIOLENCE ALSO WILL DECREASE WHEN CHRISTIANITY / MONOGAMOUS / FAMILY VALUES / DISCIPLINE ARE INTRODUCED.

ALL OF THIS FEAR AND KILLING IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY BREAKS MY HEART, BECAUSE IT IS SO UNNECESSARY. THE NEED FOR VIOLENCE IS ALL IN THEIR MIND, A FABRICATION OF FEAR.

THIS IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.

[feelfree4u]

Re: "VIOLENCE ALSO WILL DECREASE WHEN CHRISTIANITY / MONOGAMOUS / FAMILY VALUES / DISCIPLINE ARE INTRODUCED."

Posted by darnedsocks

The neo-fascistic mass-murderers, religious nutters, and hypocritical toe-tappers of the current regime have completely discredited your claims for the foreseeable future.

[poopus123]

Posted by frankive

FRANKFIVE: Do you have some statistics to back that up? If so, please provide them.

Either way, you''re a dummy.

[lalabradle]

All most of you non-black people sit back and can only quote and believe what you hear or see about black people. You have no idea what''s going on in the black communities. The problem is, a lot of black innercity children don''t get a good education because their schools are drastically underfunded. Most of them have no activities to keep them busy after school is out. White America doesn''t care. But whether you like it or not, the city, the state and the government have a responsibility in this. This country offers no programs other than welfare (which is a trap into poverty). A lot of these kids have never been out of the city of L.A.

[feelfree4u]

RE: "White America doesn''t care."

A lot of "us" do care.

[rjudy3]

You people are idiots, some young college punks who think their all growed up and can now make social determinations. It IS because of Rap music and the life style tthe young blacks want to emulate which spills over to latins and rich(wannabe)white boys. None of them want education (too white) or empathy for their fellow man(too white) or give respect (too white). Their crack addicted mothers and good-for-nothing fathers have NEVER been their for them and now the decent folks have to pay for these mistakes the rest of their lives.
I say round them up in one great big lasso and throw them into the ocean and lets start over again.

[darnedsocks]

I THINK A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS OF OUR SOCIETY ARE ROOTED IN OUR MEDIA ALWAYS TRYING TO "ONE UP" THE PREVIOUS GENERATION ON SEXUAL PROMISCUITY. REMEMBER HOW MADONNA STARTED OUT "LIKE A VIRGIN", SHE LOOKED SO SWEET AND DRESSED "CUTE" NOT LIKE A ***....THEN OVER TIME SHE STARTED FLASHING HER B*O*O*B*S ON THE FREEWAY AND *** EVERY GUY SHE COULD IN HER LIMO. IT WAS ALL OVER THE TABLOIDS AND THE TEEN MAGAZINES.

THEN BRITNEY CAME ALONG AND SHE FLASHES HERE T*W*A*T, TRYING TO "ONE UP" THE PREVIOUS STARS.

NOW HOLLYWOOD IS FOISTING THE SWINGERS ******** AND PROMISCUITY ONTO THE PUBLIC, TRYING TO LEGITMIZE IT.

AMERICANS ARE TEACHING OUR CHILDREN TO BE TOO LOOSE WITH THEIR BODIES AND RELATIONSHIPS, INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM GUIDANCE THEY NEED TO SUCCEED.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING TEENS AKA CHILDREN BEING ALLOWED TO RUN AROUND DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT. WHERE ARE THE ADULTS? THE PARENTS NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

AND ANY PARENTS WHO ARE DOING DRUGS AND ARE PROMISCUOUS SHOULD HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO BREED TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN!

[feelfree4u]

Re: "Do you have some statistics to back that up? If so, please provide them."


Posted by poopus123

And this guy claims to work at the Pentagon.

If true, is it any wonder that we are losing, even from a military aspect, in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[feelfree4u]

Re: "I say round them up in one great big lasso and throw them into the ocean and lets start over again."

Posted by rjudy3

So, rounding up millions of your fellow Americans and murdering them is your answer to reducing violence?

[feelfree4u]

darnedsocks,

FYI- one of the most readily identifiable signs and traits of an agent of Mephistopheles, is someone who types in all-caps.

[lalabradle]

Believe me, the black community doesn''t have the ability to give people decent jobs, those resources come from the ones in charge. Where I work, the bosses are all white. You can''t tell me only they are capable in those positions. I actually know quite a few who are making six figures with only a high school diploma. Any minorities in that same position must have degrees, etc.

[poopus123]

And this guy claims to work at the Pentagon.

If true, is it any wonder that we are losing, even from a military aspect, in Iraq and Afghanistan?



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Posted by FeelFree4U

What are you talking about? I dont work at the Pentagon....

[frankive]

poopus123: I DID quote statistics!!! What you are obviously now seeking is proof. The proof is found in history texts. Too bad you parents didn''t practice birth control before you were born. (they were probable brother and sister).

[darnedsocks]

AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO THOSE CHRISTIANS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHO ARE CONSTANTLY FIGHTING THIS BATTLE OF VIOLENCE, PROMISCUITY, THE BROKEN FAMILY, ETC. LET US PLEASE REMEMBER TOO THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CHRISTIAN PEOPLE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHO ARE DOING THEIR PART AND SHOULD BE GIVEN CREDIT FOR MAKING GOOD CHOICES WHICH LEAD THEM TO SUCCESSFUL CAREERS AND HEALTHY-MINDED CONTRIBUTORS TO THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THE UNITED STATES.

[poopus123]

poopus123: I DID quote statistics!!! What you are obviously now seeking is proof. The proof is found in history texts. Too bad you parents didn''''t practice birth control before you were born. (they were probable brother and sister).


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Posted by frankive

FRANKIVE -- You sound irritated. I meant, please provide us the links that substantiate the numbers you are throwing out there.

Can you do that?