June 9, 2008

Did Clinton Damage "Glass Ceiling"?

Two Leading Progressive Women Discuss The Question, On The Early Show

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(CBS)  Sen. Hillary Clinton officially suspended her presidential campaign over the weekend, endorsing Sen. Barack Obama and giving a rousing speech as she did.

"When we first started, people everywhere asked the same questions: Could a woman really serve as commander in chief? Well, I think we answered that one!" Clinton said.

" ... To those who are disappointed that we couldn't go all the way -- especially the young people who put so much into this campaign -- it would break my heart if, in falling short of my goal, I in any way discouraged any of you from pursuing yours. Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. And when you stumble, keep faith. And when you're knocked down, get right back up. And never listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on.

" ... Although we weren't able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you, it's got about 18 million cracks in it."

Clinton was referring to the approximate number of votes she got in the course of the primary campaign.

So, how much damage did Clinton's campaign truly inflict on the "glass ceiling"?

For some perspective, Early Show co-anchor Harry Smith spoke with two women prominent in progressive political circles, Pat Schroeder, the former Colorado congresswoman and presidential hopeful, who's now president and CEO of the Association of American Publishers, and Arianna Huffington, co-founder and editor in chief of The Huffington Post.

Schroeder said Clinton's campaign showed, "There's a tremendous amount of sexism still out there," and society simply doesn't deal with sexism as it does, say, with racism and anti-Semitism, and the campaign showed we still have "a lot of ground to cover" combating sexism.

But Huffington said she's sure a woman will be in the Oval Office one day -- and Hillary is now her own person and "the keeper of the Clinton brand," which is much more populist than it had been.

Schroeder said Hillary is now her own person and Bill is "the tail of the kite!"

To see the interview, click on the arrow in the image below:



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by PacificGatePost June 11, 2008 12:28 AM EDT
HYPOCRISY OF POLITICS

The strange hypocritical world of politics now finds Hillary supporting Obama ---

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/06/inevitable-hypocrisy-of-politics.html

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by parachutepol June 10, 2008 6:37 PM EDT
I don''t think Sen.Clinton damaged the Glass Ceiling at all.She is just one person. Indeed, there will be better and wiser women in the near future who will try. Good luck to them.
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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 4:36 AM EDT
YOU THINK THOSE CLOWNS WERE GREAT?

When Bill Clinton came to the White House in 1993, Democrats were a congressional majority, with 258 seats in the House. When he left in 2001, they were a minority with 46 fewer seats. There were 30 Democratic governors, when he arrived, 21 eight years later.
A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found nearly 60 percent of voters think Clinton is dishonest and will lie whenever she thinks she needs to.
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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 4:34 AM EDT
Hillary blamed everyone but that ugly face in the mirror.
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by Jerrycnet June 10, 2008 4:33 AM EDT
There are many reasons why Hillary lost, there are many reasons why Obama won. I suspect it''s god''s intention that he think America''s too spoiled, American haven''t really feel the real pain yet, so they don''t deserve to return to the good time of the Clintonomics and need to have higher gas price and gigantic deficit that dwarf today''s figure before they wake up and start using their brains rather than their shallow emotion that only fits for American idol voting.
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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 3:25 AM EDT
By the way, there are many Hillary supporters who don%u2019t want Hillary to go anywhere near the VP slot under any circumstance. I am one of those supporters.

Posted by tazmjam at 11:58 PM : Jun 09, 2008
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I couldn''t care less either way.
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by lorinkundert June 10, 2008 3:03 AM EDT
If she damaged it, it is because it was a mirror.
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by tazmjam June 10, 2008 2:58 AM EDT
HEARD THAT JENNIFER FLOWERS AND PAULA JONES ARE WRITING A BOOK TOGETHER - AND GUESS WHO THAT BOOK IS ABOUT. YOU GUESSED IT - NO OTHER THAN BILLY BOY. AND THEIR AGENT SAYS IT WILL BE OUT BY MID-OCTOBER. I GUESS HILLARY WON''''T BE RUNNING FOR VP. WHO WANTS ALL THAT GARBAGE IN THE CAMPAIGN? NO ONE! Posted by rufisgufis


Sure%u2026 they%u2019re both real credible cockroaches. LMAO. Both posed nude in Penthouse magazine, Jennifer%u2019s acting career failed and her Night Club in New Orleans is no more. Paula%u2019s boxing career didn%u2019t last long, and I doubt she%u2019s making much money selling houses in this market. Five more minutes of fame...they both need money. By the way, there are many Hillary supporters who don%u2019t want Hillary to go anywhere near the VP slot under any circumstance. I am one of those supporters.



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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 2:26 AM EDT
HEARD THAT JENNIFER FLOWERS AND PAULA JONES ARE WRITING A BOOK TOGETHER - AND GUESS WHO THAT BOOK IS ABOUT. YOU GUESSED IT - NO OTHER THAN BILLY BOY. AND THEIR AGENT SAYS IT WILL BE OUT BY MID-OCTOBER. I GUESS HILLARY WON''T BE RUNNING FOR VP. WHO WANTS ALL THAT GARBAGE IN THE CAMPAIGN? NO ONE!
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by sharncedar June 10, 2008 2:15 AM EDT
"And never listen to anyone who says you can''t or shouldn''t go on."

What kind of advice is this? Isn''t it prudent to listen to others, to consider what they say. Suppose your generals tell you we can''t go on in Iraq, would it not be prudent to listen to that?

What kind of dumb advice is Hillary giving people. It sounds good perhaps in a speech, but is not a really good kind of advice - imagine for example it were a folk saying, would it make sense? "Never listen to advice that tells you to stop" That''s really just stupid. Really dangerous and stupid. Do we listen to those pesky red lights when they tell us to stop our cars at intersections? Should we listen to our parents when they tell us to go back to college and stop the alcoholic binge we are on? Should we listen to the police when they tell us to stop and place our hands on the car?

What kind of advice is Hillary trying to give people. What kind of a nation would this be if we all acted like her.
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by sharncedar June 10, 2008 2:10 AM EDT
"Could a woman really serve as commander in chief? Well, I think we answered that one!" Clinton said."


Huh? How exactly did a failed bid at a nomination answer the question she poses? Bill Richardson tried to be nominated and failed - what does that prove? So did frickkin Dennies Kucinich. Did that prove something ... I don''t get her point ... other than more Clinton noise coming from her ridiculous potty-mouth.

If she had served as commander-in-chief (not an actual job or official title, BTW) than it would prove something, but how can not serving, not even getting NOMINATED to serve, prove something? This person is really a figure of ridiculousness. Only supremely ignorant people could be supporting her. Not surprised the Bush voters have gravitated to Clinton - like moths to the dumb-flame.



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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 1:55 AM EDT
Sen. McCain said today: %u201CI am going to campaign in all thirteen colonies. He also said he campaign will make use of all the latest technology: the telegraph; the carrier pigeon and the pony express.%u201D
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by lizziemc June 10, 2008 1:46 AM EDT
Did anyone read the NY Times article that told of Bill Clinton''s maniacal competitiveness with his wife? How he had staff members tracking votes in locales he had appeared in and then compared them to places she had visited to show how much "better" at campaigning he was than she? Sick.

If she had divorced and distanced herself from Blue-dress Bubba, she might have won. Who wanted his baggage, his famous lack of integrity, his ease at bald face lying?

She would be a disastrous VP candidate.
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by tdecroce June 10, 2008 1:37 AM EDT
I had been a long time supporter of all things CBS news options: on-line, TV. I no longer can watch CBS due to the biased media coverage for this entire primary season. After reading the postes on this article, I again confirm that I made the right decision. You appear to attract mean-spirited people who have nothing better to do than speak poorly and meanly about others. I question how you support your angry reactions to a woman like Hillary Clinton who continues to inspire 18,000,000 million people in the US.

Shame on you all. I would think you''d have better things to do with your time - like volunteering for your community and giving back to others.

TD from Portland, OR
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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 1:22 AM EDT
Hillary did not lose because she''s a woman, or because Obama is black. She lost because she ran one of the worst campaigns in history. She gaged her campaign to be over by February 20, and when it wasn''t she was shocked and she was never able to catch up.
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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 1:17 AM EDT
If you''d open your eyes and ears, it will be slapping you in the face. But since you haven''t a clue, it figures you can make stupid statements like this one.

Posted by TiredofObama at 10:07 PM : Jun 09,
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If you had a clue, instead of just making baseless allegations you would be able to cite a specific example. Sounds as though you''re the only one making racist comments - not Obama.
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by tiredofobama June 10, 2008 1:07 AM EDT
I didn''''t read where Obama claimed racism. Where and when did that take place?


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Posted by rufisgufis at 09:59 PM : Jun 09, 2008

If you''d open your eyes and ears, it will be slapping you in the face. But since you haven''t a clue, it figures you can make stupid statements like this one.
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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 12:59 AM EDT
she will claim ''''sexism'''' and Obama will claim ''''racism'''' even tho he''''s 1/2 white, which he''''s ashamed of...nice...

Posted by sbbm at 09:56 PM : Jun 09, 2008
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I didn''t read where Obama claimed racism. Where and when did that take place?
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by rufisgufis June 10, 2008 12:54 AM EDT
I am still amazed that 18 million misguided people voted for Billary, agreeing with her that her tenure as first lady somehow equated into some sort of qualifying presidential experience.

That along with all the scandals the Clintons have amassed from Arkansas to the White House makes me wonder even more.

I will be the first in line to vote for a truly qualified woman to be president.
Billary was not that person.


Posted by tibu987 at 09:50 PM : Jun 09, 2008
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I agree 100%. Between herself and Bill they have enough baggage to fill Kennedy Airport.
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by tibu987 June 10, 2008 12:50 AM EDT
I am still amazed that 18 million misguided people voted for Billary, agreeing with her that her tenure as first lady somehow equated into some sort of qualifying presidential experience.

That along with all the scandals the Clintons have amassed from Arkansas to the White House makes me wonder even more.

I will be the first in line to vote for a truly qualified woman to be president.
Billary was not that person.

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