WASHINGTON, June 8, 2008

A White House Race Beyond Race

Webb, Rangel Say Obama Nomination Would Transcend Racial Divides

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(CBS)  Despite his historic achievement of being the first African American presidential candidate to become the presumptive nominee of his party, Sen. Barack Obama's candidacy represents issues even larger than a break from long-standing racial divisions in America, said fellow Democratic Senator Jim Webb of Virginia.

“We’ve reached the point here where the message is going to transcend racial divides," Webb told Face The Nation host Bob Schieffer. "There are clear distinctions between Barack and John McCain on issues of intellect, meaning the way you shape the larger issues that are facing the country rather than this tax bill or that tax bill. There are issues in terms of composure and vision.

"I don't see the first African-American candidate; I see someone here who has got the intellect, has got the composure, who can help us bring a formula now together where we can start breaking apart this calcification that has happened [in Washington], where the middle class has been hurt so bad."

Rep. Charles Rangel D-N.Y., also believes that most voters will look beyond Obama's race when deciding whether to support him for the presidency, although he admitted there would be people who may not vote for him because he's an African American. "That's America, and there are people that feel so insecure," he said.

But Rangel also believes that Obama has captured the hearts and the votes of many people who are not African-Americans, which he called "amazing," and who have a purpose larger than prejudices.

"The American people will put race aside and say, 'Let's get out of this problem that Bush has put us in.'"

What November represents, Webb thinks, is a transitional election in which Obama may help forge "a new coalition," including voters who had previously left the Democratic Party, or are disaffected with the Republicans.

“I wouldn't be that worried about the fact that a large percentage of this vote went to Hillary," Webb said. "We need to give Hillary some credit here. You know, she comes from a very strong organization and she has a great record with working people.

"Not only is Barack going to be able to reach out and get a significant percentage of that vote, but he's going to be able to reach back into the Reagan Democrats, of which I was a part, and bring in people who had voted for George W. Bush in the past."

Howard Wolfson, the communications director of Hillary Clinton's campaign, also said Obama's ability to energize voters - and McCain's willingness to repeat Bush administration policies - will bolster the Democrats' chances.

"I think we can't afford a third George Bush term," Wolfson said. "John McCain is running to be the next George Bush. We can't have that in this country. The economy is spiraling into recession; John McCain says more of the same. We've got terrible problems in Iraq; John McCain says more of the same.

"We need a fundamental change, a fundamental break. And I think Barack Obama offers that. And I think the American people are going to respond very affirmatively to that."

Roger Simon, chief political columnist for Politico.com, said McCain has two major challenges: "He has to show first and foremost that he's not going to be George III. But at the same time, he has to build a little enthusiasm.

"The contentious campaign that's been on the Democratic side has energized Democrats. They've registered more people, they brought more people to the polls, they've raised more money. John McCain has to capture some of that spark and enthusiasm on the Republican side. He's got to build some energy. He's got to start doing it now, culminating at the Republican convention at the beginning of September, and then going on to Election Day.

"He's got an unpopular war. He's got a bad economy. But he's also got two selling points: He says he's going to be much more effective in protecting America from terrorism, and he promises lower taxes and says Barack Obama is going to raise taxes."


Read the full "Face the Nation" transcript here.

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by jesterbelle June 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT
Posted by Obama8years at 05:36 PM : Jun 08, 2008
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Posted by Bagdadshere1 at 03:24 PM : Jun 08, 2008
Now you know CBS is right wing propaganda.I work for them. McCain 08 Posted by CBS_Katie at 03:04 PM : Jun 08, 2008
Posted by MCVET_ at 02:58 PM : Jun 08, 2008
Posted by BlackShaft at 02:17 PM : Jun 08, 2008
Posted by barefootboy9 at 06:50 PM : Jun 08, 2008


HAD A NIC STOLEN?THIS IS PROBABLY THE S.O.B.THAT DID IT.THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE NAMES IT POSTS UNDER.ALSO INCLUDED ARE Who_Am_I/LARRYSINCLAIR/OBAMASGRANNY/eatmochikn

In addition to McVets nic,I have also seen it using j.whitmans.
I am sure there are other names it is using,one of them could be yours
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by June 9, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
Rangel admitted there would be people who may not vote for Obama because he''s an African American. "That''s America, and there are people that feel so insecure," *******

So, if 10-15% of the white population votes against Obama, it is because they feel "so insecure," but if 90% of the black population vote against McCain it is because they have the composure and intelligence to pursue a better vision of America? I just love the way people manipulate the language to secure their own ends irrespective of any logical paradigm. Anyway, I''m glad to see the unity message coming through in nanc12''s "kiss off" approach to people who have the "audacity" to see the world differently.
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by nanc12 June 9, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
Posted by frankbowers

First of all, Sen Obama is not a muslim, he''s a Christian, but that doesn''t even matter. After reading your highly intelligent post, I''m sure no one would be too sad to say you''re not in their camp.
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by cockapoo8 June 9, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
Why do you guys hate Arabs so much? Ya do the same things they do. Ya marry 10 wives. Ya ****** 9 year olds.. Ya war wit everybody. Whats different about ya?
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by credibility2 June 9, 2008 1:52 PM EDT
Sadly, Obama has patronized and pandered his way through the campaign and only references his white race as a footnote. He isn''t proud of his white heritage, as evidenced by the twenty or so year relationships with racist bigoted hate-mongerers like Wright, Pfleger and their repsective congregations. Obama made a choice in his friends based on similar thoughts, actions and beliefs. He is as much a racist and bigot as those like Wright, Pfleger and others. Obama trashed working-class whites with his I''m better than you rant at the SF fund raiser. This is what Obama is made of, and the media has considtently lacked tje spine in not pressing him on this, including the issues of character and judment. It also doesn''t help Obama for his wife to hold such ignorant and spiteful sentiments as she''s already admitted. Now Obama will go out of his way to try and fool the electorate of whites and Jews and others that he''s offended repeatedly, trying to change his tune and rhetoric just to use them now and get their vote since he knows he''ll need the votes desperately. If there are those who have convinced themselves that none of this matters, be forewarned. It does matter and will matter come the election.
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by frankbowers June 9, 2008 1:45 PM EDT
i do not know who is smoking what but the antionality of balck id a big divider in america I know i am going with white now that Mrs Clinton has been thrown out with the bath water, I could no more vote for a muslim than I could or would jump form the Geo. Washington bridge into the nasty water below regardless of the fall the filty matter is still there as in the muslim world I am not human.. Therefore I could never vote for a muslim regardless of their color. Shame of the lot of them who could only see great black hope and it will not work regardless of what they say, Sen. Webb I hope yio are man enough to admit the facts shame on you if you do not. Frank
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by jack3213 June 9, 2008 1:11 PM EDT
No amount of preeching, coddling, singing praises for the idealist future, no amount of promises or illusions of grand change will allow a "black man" to lead this country, one that will raise your taxes, at this juncture. The USA is not ready of an unqualified- inexperianced person any more. No amount of money or excellent speeches will change that.


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by joecoolswat June 9, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
Look at OMAR-101....stating how great the Nation of Islam is ?.....how Louis farrakhan hasn''t raped anyone....quote "NATION OF ISLAM HAS NEVER RAPED, LYNCHED, MURDERED, BURNED DOWN HOMES OR TERRORIZED ANY WHITE PEOPLE IN THE USA."

Justifying Obama''s association with the Nation of Islam, support for muslims and his anti-american, anti-white associates....Remember his pastor of 20 years said "The government created the AIDS virus to kill black people"
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by joecoolswat June 9, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
Barrack Hussein Obama''s stardom is falling so fast, he''s streaking up the sky.....what a horrible candidate the Democrats selected, wrong choice, Hillary would have been a much more formitable candidate.....he an Obamination !


Say hello to President John McCain !!!!
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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
Posted by dumbshun: TRUE CONFESSIONS FROM MY HEART, I (DUMB SHUN) CONFESS THAT ...

I`M A NATURAL BORN, AMERICAN MADE, COWARD, NATIONAL TERRORIST , WHITE RACIST, WHITE SEPARATIST, KKK (CHRISTIAN) NAZI PARTY MEMBER, FAUX CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST & WHITE SUPREMIST !!

SEIG HEIL, HEIL HITLER !!

I HATE ALL BLACK AMERICANS, I WILL NOT FIGHT IN THE IRAQ WAR, NEVER, BUT I`M ALL FOR OTHER AMERICANS, BEING KILLED OR DIS-MEMBERED FOR ME AND THE MORE THE MERRIER !!


I SUPPORT MORE BOMBINGS OF INNOCENT BABIES, CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN, THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE (911 PLANE ATTACKS)...

I JUST WANT ALL ARAB NATIONS WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH AN THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE, WELL AFTER WE WIPE OUT ALL BLACK AMERICANS & AFRICANS AND ALSO ALL BLACK BRAZILIANS...


THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE, IN THE NAME OF JESUS..AMEN !!

MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS DEDICATED TO WHITES ONLY IN AMERICA AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE..

I`M A NATIONAL EXTREMIST LIKE TIM MCVEIGH, TED KACZYNSKI & THE COLUMBINE KILLERS AND JUST LIKE THEM, I WILL DO ANYTHING, FOR THE WHITE CAUSE !!


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WOW DUMB SHUN, FINALLY YOU`VE GROWN A BACK BONE, A REAL SPINAL CORD AND SAID WHATS ON YOUR MIND...

YOU LOW LIFE COWARD !!
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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
Posted by dumbshun: I DID`NT KNOW THE NATION OF ISLAM ALLOWED INTER-RACIAL MARRIAGES, THAT THEY`VE CHANGED THEIR RACIAL STANCE & POLICIES...

WHERE CAN I JOIN ???

WOW, WHAT A REVELATION !!
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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 12:10 PM EDT
Posted by dumbshun: TRUE CONFESSIONS FROM MY HEART, I (DUMB SHUN) CONFESS THAT ...

I`M A NATURAL BORN, AMERICAN MADE, COWARD, NATIONAL TERRORIST , WHITE RACIST, WHITE SEPARATIST, KKK (CHRISTIAN) NAZI PARTY MEMBER, FAUX CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST & WHITE SUPREMIST !!

SEIG HEIL, HEIL HITLER !!

I HATE ALL BLACK AMERICANS, I WILL NOT FIGHT IN THE IRAQ WAR, NEVER, BUT I`M ALL FOR OTHER AMERICANS, BEING KILLED OR DIS-MEMBERED FOR ME AND THE MORE THE MERRIER !!


I SUPPORT MORE BOMBINGS OF INNOCENT BABIES, CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN, THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE (911 PLANE ATTACKS)...

I JUST WANT ALL ARAB NATIONS WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH AN THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE, WELL AFTER WE WIPE OUT ALL BLACK AMERICANS & AFRICANS AND ALSO ALL BLACK BRAZILIANS...


THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE, IN THE NAME OF JESUS..AMEN !!

MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS DEDICATED TO WHITES ONLY IN AMERICA AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE..

I`M A NATIONAL EXTREMIST LIKE TIM MCVEIGH, TED KACZYNSKI & THE COLUMBINE KILLERS AND JUST LIKE THEM, I WILL DO ANYTHING, FOR THE WHITE CAUSE !!


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WOW DUMB SHUN, FINALLY YOU`VE GROWN A BACK BONE, A REAL SPINAL CORD AND SAID WHATS ON YOUR MIND...

YOU LOW LIFE COWARD !!
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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
Posted by dumbshun: TRUE CONFESSIONS FROM MY HEART, I (DUMB SHUN) CONFESS THAT ...

I`M A NATURAL BORN, AMERICAN MADE, COWARD, NATIONAL TERRORIST , WHITE RACIST, WHITE SEPARATIST, KKK (CHRISTIAN) NAZI PARTY MEMBER, FAUX CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST & WHITE SUPREMIST !!

SEIG HEIL, HEIL HITLER !!

I HATE ALL BLACK AMERICANS, I WILL NOT FIGHT IN THE IRAQ WAR, NEVER, BUT I`M ALL FOR OTHER AMERICANS, BEING KILLED OR DIS-MEMBERED FOR ME AND THE MORE THE MERRIER !!


I SUPPORT MORE BOMBINGS OF INNOCENT BABIES, CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN, THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE (911 PLANE ATTACKS)...

I JUST WANT ALL ARAB NATIONS WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH AN THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE, WELL AFTER WE WIPE OUT ALL BLACK AMERICANS & AFRICANS AND ALSO ALL BLACK BRAZILIANS...


THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE, IN THE NAME OF JESUS..AMEN !!

MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS DEDICATED TO WHITES ONLY IN AMERICA AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE..

I`M A NATIONAL EXTREMIST LIKE TIM MCVEIGH, TED KACZYNSKI & THE COLUMBINE KILLERS AND JUST LIKE THEM, I WILL DO ANYTHING, FOR THE WHITE CAUSE !!


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WOW DUMB SHUN, FINALLY YOU`VE GROWN A BACK BONE, A REAL SPINAL CORD AND SAID WHATS ON YOUR MIND...

YOU LOW LIFE COWARD !!
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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
Posted by dumbshun: GEORGE W. BUSH IS A LIAR AROUND THE WORLD, I`M IN FACT NAMING HIM "LIAR-IN-CHIEF"!


HE GOT US ALL INTO THIS MESS !!
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I FINALLY AGREE WITH YOU...DUMB SHUN !!
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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 11:55 AM EDT

Posted by LibH8er-The Angry Nazi Feminist: I`m Mad that Bi-Racial Man Won the Electoral College !! I`d Rather have George Bush Jr. Continue as President. look at the Great Position America is in. Continue the Great Policies of George W. Bush. Just Look at the all the Great Results, both International & National, who could ask for anything more. We have a Great President, lets continue this process and we`ll be the Better for it.

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Spoken like a true Feminist...If Not Hillary, let it all Go To He!!
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by jesterbelle June 9, 2008 11:48 AM EDT
YEAH, GEORGY BOY HAS BEEN A SOFTY! HE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED ALL THE COWARDS AND THE WHINERS!



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Posted by dumbshun at 08:46 AM : Jun 09, 2008

Look at the bright side,you get to stay here and post.
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by libh8er June 9, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
James Johnson & Eric Holder? What happened to ''change''?????? Ubama is a liar and an empty suit.
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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
Posted by dumbshun: I (DUMB SHUN) CONFESS...

I`M A COWARD, NATIONAL TERRORIST , WHITE RACIST, WHITE SEPARATIST, KKK (CHRISTIAN) NAZI PARTY MEMBER, FAUX CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST & WHITE SUPREMIST !!

SEIG HEIL, HEIL HITLER !!

I HATE ALL BLACK AMERICANS, I WILL NOT FIGHT IN THE IRAQ WAR, NEVER, BUT I`M ALL FOR OTHER AMERICANS, BEING KILLED OR DIS-MEMBERED FOR ME AND THE MORE THE MERRIER !!


I SUPPORT MORE BOMBINGS OF INNOCENT BABIES, CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN, THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE (911 PLANE ATTACKS)...

I JUST WANT ALL ARAB NATIONS WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH AN THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE, WELL AFTER WE WIPE OUT ALL BLACKS AMERICANS & AFRICANS AND ALSO ALL BLACK BRAZILIANS...


THEN I WILL BE AT PEACE, IN THE NAME OF JESUS..AMEN !!


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WOW, DUMB SHUN, FINALLY YOU`VE GROWN A BACK BONE AND SAID WHATS ON YOUR MIND...YOU LOW LIFE COWARD !!

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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 11:43 AM EDT

http://www.newsweek.com/id/140478

Soldiers: `Iraq, Say, Anything not To Go Back`

By Tony Dokoupil | NEWSWEEK
Jun 16, 2008 Issue



Its easy for those on the Sidelines of War to judge these Men & Women, but those that Judge them, Absolutely Refuse to Enlist Themselves for a Tour of Duty, in Iraq.

Think about that.

Omaar101

U.S. soldiers serve long, repeated combat tours, "but we just dont have good, hard data on it." Intentional-injury cases are hard to identify, and even harder to prosecute. Fewer than 21 soldiers have been punitively discharged for self-harm since 2003, according to the military.

What`s worrying, however, is that American troops committed suicide at the HIGHEST RATE ON RECORD in 2007%u2014and the factors behind SELF INJURY are similar: combat stress and strained relationships. "It`s often the families that don`t want soldiers to return to war," says Ritchie.

Soldiers have long used self-harm as a rip cord to avoid war. During World War I, The American Journal of Psychiatry reported "epidemics of self-inflicted injuries," hospital wards filled with men shot in a single finger or toe, as well as cases of pulled-out teeth, punctured eardrums and slashed Achilles'''' heels.

Few doubt that the Korean and Vietnam wars were any different. But the current war%u2014fought with an overtaxed volunteer Army%u2014may be the worst.

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by omaar-101 June 9, 2008 11:42 AM EDT
http://www.newsweek.com/id/140478

Soldiers: `Iraq, Say, Anything not To Go Back`

By Tony Dokoupil | NEWSWEEK
Jun 16, 2008 Issue



Its easy for those on the Sidelines of War to judge these Men & Women, but those that Judge them, Absolutely Refuse to Enlist Themselves for a Tour of Duty, in Iraq.

Think about that.

Omaar101


As an internist at New York`s Mount Sinai Hospital, Dr. Stephanie Santos is used to finding odd things in people`s stomachs. So last spring when a young man, identifying himself as an Iraq-bound soldier, said he had accidentally swallowed a pen at the bus station, she believed him. That is, until she found a second pen. It read 1-800-GREYHOUND. Last summer, according to published reports, a 20-year-old Bronx soldier paid a hit man $500 to shoot him in the knee on the day he was scheduled to return to Iraq.

The year before that, a 24-year-old specialist from Washington state escaped a second tour of duty, according to his sister, by strapping on a backpack full of tools and leaping off the roof of his house, injuring his spine.

Such cases of self-harm are a "rising trend" that military doctors are watching closely, says Col. Kathy Platoni, an Army Reserve psychologist who has worked with veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. "There are some soldiers who will do almost anything not to go back," she says.

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