McCain Sets Sights On Clinton Voters

Washington Post: GOP Candidate Has Started Wooing White Working-Class And Women Democrats

(Washingtonpost.com)  This story was written by Michael D. Shear and Jon Cohen.

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Republican Sen. John McCain envisions a November victory built in part around attracting a large number of the millions of voters who turned away from Sen. Barack Obama's promise of change during the historic Democratic primary campaign.

Buoyed by polls showing a quarter or more of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's supporters planning to back McCain, his advisers have already started wooing the white working-class voters and women who made up the bedrock of her coalition. They plan to echo and expand the former first lady's critiques of Obama: that he is out of touch with Middle America and too unseasoned to be president.

"There's a lot of Senator Clinton supporters who would support me because of their belief that Senator Obama does not have the experience or the knowledge or the judgment to address this nation's national security challenges," McCain told reporters Wednesday.

Nonetheless, to succeed, McCain will have to upend firm partisan voting patterns that have held for the past four presidential elections.

In those contests, only about 1 in 10 Democrats cast a ballot for the GOP candidate, according to network exit polls. In the 2006 midterm election, 93 percent of Democrats voted Democratic in their House districts. That party loyalty -- matched by Republicans' fidelity to their party's candidates -- came despite voters' occasional protestations that a nomination defeat would send them scampering.

On the issues, it is unclear how McCain would appeal to Clinton's female or working-class voters. McCain's record is not much like Clinton's, as the Republican repeatedly pointed out during his primary battles. He opposes government-run health care, supports continuing the war in Iraq, wants to extend President Bush's tax cuts and is a committed foe of abortion rights.

His position on the war, in particular, puts him at odds with Clinton on what is a top issue for many Democrats. For months, McCain mocked Clinton's desire to withdraw troops from Iraq.

Obama advisers think the expressions of support for McCain among Clinton voters is a general byproduct of a passionate and sometimes heated primary process that will quickly fade. "We're confident that when voters from all walks of life have a choice between a candidate who last year voted with George Bush 95 percent . . . they will choose change and elect Barack Obama president," said Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan.

McCain strategists predict their candidate will do a better job of siphoning away Democratic votes because of two factors: what they say is Obama's inability to connect to some key parts of the Democratic coalition, and McCain's reputation as a maverick.

Republicans plan to describe Obama as an elitist from the Hyde Park section of Chicago, where liberal professors mingle in an academic world that is alien to most working-class voters. They plan to make sure Clinton's voters do not forget about Obama's comments that working-class people are bitter and cling to their guns and religion as a way of dealing with the economic uncertainty they face.

"The cling-to part about religion and guns is where the McCain campaign is going to hammer home on," said Kevin Madden, a GOP analyst who was the spokesman for former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney's presidential bid.

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In recent days, the Republican campaign has held focus groups in the Rust Belt and Appalachian states where Obama's messages of hope and change failed to translate into votes, including one session in Pittsburgh -- Obama lost in Pennsylvania to Clinton, and it will almost surely be a critical swing state in the fall. McCain advisers said they found a palpable unease with Obama among those groups.

The point, key Republican advisers said, is that Clinton's voters see more of themselves in McCain than they do in Obama. In recent weeks, McCain advisers have shared data with Republican activists backing up that contention, said one Republican strategist.

McCain's speech Tuesday night contained a direct appeal to Clinton's voters, calling her a "friend" and saying that her presidential campaign inspired his own daughters and "millions of women to believe there is no opportunity in this great country beyond their reach."

In addition, they say they will stress the areas where McCain's positions are different from Bush's. In his speech Tuesday, McCain went out of his way to highlight his belief in global warming, his opposition to Bush's energy bill and his criticisms of the conduct of the war.

"The American people didn't get to know me yesterday," he said. Speaking as much about Clinton's supporters as his own, he added: "They know I have a long record of bipartisan problem-solving. They've seen me put our country before any president -- before any party -- before any special interest -- before my own interest."

McCain advisers believe the polls back up their predictions.

Over the past three months, Washington Post-ABC News polls showed an average of 25 percent of those backing Clinton in the primaries "defecting" to McCain in a hypothetical match-up with Obama. A new poll from the Pew Research Center conducted just before the final Democratic primaries put the number at 28 percent.

Other data in the new Pew poll may add to the concern among some Democrats. In that survey, the percentage of Clinton supporters holding a positive view of Obama continues to slide: Forty-five percent of them view Obama favorably, down from 58 percent in December, before the voting started.

The Clinton voters most open to switching sides this time in Post-ABC national data are white women, white voters without college degrees, older voters, moderates and those prioritizing experience over change. This is the most fertile territory for McCain to repeat the feat of one of McCain's heroes, Ronald Reagan.

Twenty-six percent of Democrats crossed party lines to vote for Reagan in 1980 after a bruising fight for the Democratic nomination between President Jimmy Carter and Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) -- a battle that lasted all the way to the convention.

But even that number was significantly lower than the threatened crossover from early that year. In a late March 1980 Gallup poll, 47 percent of Democrats who wanted Kennedy to be the party's nominee said they would vote for Reagan if Carter were to get the nod; that is nearly twice the proportion who ended up doing so.

McCain's challenge in converting disappointed Clinton supporters into GOP voters this year hinges on his ability to ovrcome policy differences and improve his image with those voters. In the Pew poll, most of those who hold favorable views of Clinton view Obama positively and McCain negatively. And it is the anti-McCain view that may ultimately prove a stronger motivator.

Nearly 6 in 10 of those backing Clinton over Obama in the primary said they would support Obama in the fall, with about half of those voters saying they are motivated to do so primarily to vote "against McCain" rather than "for Obama."

Cohen reported from Washington. Polling analyst Jennifer Agiesta in Washington contributed to this report.

[renonv5]

You mean they allowed Kennedy and Carter to take the fight all the way to the convention floor???? Why, then, were all the people begging Hillary to quit, quit, quit?? I think the numbers here are wrong. 6 in 10 will support Obama? That''s a little high. It seems just a little too soon in the game to know this, but nice try CBS.

[bks59]

headlines just reported new high for unemployment, the majority will vote for mopre of MCsame, i don''t think so. over the next several months the US populous to see and hear Obama and the Dem''s unite to defeat the republicans and their failing policies.

[riptide213]

Campaign supporter poaching season is now officially open.

All hunters please wear and display your florescent party colors to prevent election mishaps.

Flashback to an old Nam battle strategy trick.

Win hearts and minds of enemy sympathizers with psychological warfare, and the votes will follow.

I love the smell of political victory in a November morning.

[tiredofobama]

Men have obcessed enough about being president of the United States to assassinate each other. They''''ve obcessed over being president since they were children. They competed in ruthless backbiting campaigns scandalizing each other, cheating on their campaign funding and their wives, makeing cigar smoking back room deals, held terrible debates yelling at each other, then kissing each other''''s behind when they hate each other, and all the while pissing on their constituents, just to get the almighty dollar! They''''ve killed millions of people! And they think they''''re SANE?

A SUCCESSFUL POLITICAL WOMAN WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND SHE''''S LABELED A PSYCHO, BACKSTABBING B***CH by these bloated old bigots feeding their ego''''s that they know what''''s best for this country!

And look what a mell of hess we''''re in right now because of some bloated ego, manifest destiny spewing back room dealing arrogant smart a/s/s inexperienced CRACKHEAD just like Obama!

And you roboturkeys and the DNC expect me to vote for this inexperienced overbloated goofball just like BUSH because they made back room deals to get him nominated, like I OWE them my vote?

Whatta laugh! Too bad you can''''t control where I put my vote in the general election, after all this is the United States of America God bless it, NOT God D/amn it! Screw you!

[realpatriot1]

TiredofObama,

I think I speak for most Obama supporters when I say that I don''t give a rat''s *** who you vote for.

I''m sure that you don''t care that I will not be voting for a stubborn and senile old man who wants to continue down the road to ruin because he no longer has the gonads to stand up to the extremists in his Party.

[omaar-101]

McCain had better Worry an concern himself with Winning and Unifying his Conservative Party, The Evangelicals and All the Young Republicans that have Left and are Leaving the party, as well as Moderate Republicans.

The Independents will Not vote for McCain.

So as You all can SEE, McCain has his Hands Full.

Feminist will NOT VOTE for McCain, Pro-Choice Women, Roe Vs. Wade, will Kill McCain.

The large Gay Community, will NOT VOTE for McCain.

Afro Americans will NOT VOTE for McCain.

Game OVER for McCain.

[omaar-101]

McCain had better Worry an concern himself with Winning and Unifying his Conservative Party, The Evangelicals (Splintered & Angered) and All the Young Republicans that have Left and are Leaving the party, as well as Moderate Republicans.

The Independents will Not vote for McCain.

So as You all can SEE, McCain has his Hands Full.

Feminist will NOT VOTE for McCain, Pro-Choice Women, Roe Vs. Wade, will Kill McCain.

The large Gay Community, will NOT VOTE for McCain.

Afro Americans will NOT VOTE for McCain.

Game OVER for McCain.

[realpatriot1]

ccfsdca,

The labels you''re using have no meaning. There''s nothing moderate about wanting to bomb Iran or retain the Bush tax cuts while running the federal budget into the ground.

Besides, liberal is not half as dirty a word as conservative in the current environment where conservatives have run the country into the ditch just like they did in the late 1920s and early 30s.

Once again it will take a "liberal'' Democrat to pull the car out of the ditch.

[pesojoe]

They compare BHO to Kennedy when better matched with Luis Farrakhan. His wife was proud of Seale and Newton, and god bless Kwame Toure for Black Power. I''ll have to jump ship on this bunch racist do anything to get elected scum. John you look more American every day.

[aldon61]

McSame might siphon off some Hillary supporters, but the vast majority of those supporters are Republiscum cross-over voters that were trying to disrupt and prolong the Democrat race. Any "true" democrat that can''t see the difference on issues between McSame and Obama isn''t a "true" democrat and should be honest and re-register as a Republiscum. Good reiddance to bad rubbish!

[libh8er]

Old Johnny Mac.....he knows he''ll never get conservative to vote for him so he''s going to go after democrats. Since he is one, I guess it''s only fitting.

[jack3213]

More women are of the mind frame that they would much rather elect someone smart, someone capabale, someone experianced, and someone qualified. Those who are switching parties were not really a Democrat they just wanted a woman, and that is rather sad and scary. Why? They have no idea that electing the wrong person will do more damage than good. Change can ofte times be VERY BAD with wrong person. MCCAIN is NOT BUSH, he is the most QUALIFIED. PERIOD.

[DCropp]

Hillary''s far too smart for McCain. Tomorrow, Hillary will give a speech that will pull the rug out from under McCain.

Putting McCain on the defensive on health care, the economy, the war, and many more issues.

Just when McCain thought he had a chance, Hillary will shine the spotlight on all of McCain''s flawed Bush policies.

Hillary remembers all too well how McCain and the Republicans treated her family when they were in the white house. Hillary is in position to payback the Republicans for all the sleepless nights they caused her family.

[homespunlady]

Does "experience" translate into REPEATING the SAME thing over and over and expecting a DIFFERENT RESULT?

Hmm.. Let''s see we''re in a QUAGMIRE of a so called "war" in at LEAST 2 countries so since we''re "experienced" LET''S GO FOR MORE according to McSame.

The spooks have been given FREE ACCESS and are "experienced" with SPYING on the AMERICAN PEOPLE so LET''S GO FOR MORE SPYING - putting cameras in the little girl''s bathrooms of PUBLIC SCHOOLS and installing them in every BEDROOM in Middle America.

Lobbyists are "experienced" in running John McCain''s campaign so LETS take THAT LOBBYIST RUNS IT "EXPERIENCE" into the Whitehouse.

Heck, George was "experienced" with cozying up to the BIN LADEN FAMILY and look HOW GREAT that turned out for the TOP ONE PERCENT of this nation!

Too bad the REST OF US are going UNDER because of all that COZY RICH MAN''S CLUB "EXPERIENCE".

[frankson2]

THE ONLY ONES THAT MCCAIN IS SETTING HIS SIGHTS ON ARE ANGRY WHITE VOTERS WHO WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A BLACK MAN.....KINDA REMINDS ME OF REAGAN DEMOCRATS.

[tiredofobama]

Men have obcessed enough about being president of the United States to assassinate each other. They''''ve obcessed over being president since they were children. They competed in ruthless backbiting campaigns scandalizing each other, cheating on their campaign funding and their wives, makeing cigar smoking back room deals, held terrible debates yelling at each other, then kissing each other''''s behind when they hate each other, and all the while pissing on their constituents, just to get the almighty dollar! They''''ve killed millions of people! And they think they''''re SANE?

A SUCCESSFUL POLITICAL WOMAN WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND SHE''''S LABELED A PSYCHO, BACKSTABBING B***CH by these bloated old bigots feeding their ego''''s that they know what''''s best for this country!

And look what a mell of hess we''''re in right now because of some bloated ego, manifest destiny spewing back room dealing arrogant smart a/s/s inexperienced CRACKHEAD just like Obama!

And you roboturkeys and the DNC expect me to vote for this inexperienced overbloated goofball just like BUSH because they made back room deals to get him nominated, like I OWE them my vote?

Whatta laugh! Too bad you can''''t control where I put my vote in the general election, after all this is the United States of America God bless it, NOT God D/amn it! Screw you!

[sgtrds-e4]

A vote for McCain is a vote for a third term of Bush policies as far as war and the economy. A vote for McCain is a vote to overturn Roe, Title IX and a conservative court that will sit for 30-40 years overturning generatio0ns of progress in women''s and civil rights.

[libra127]

Those of you that denigrate Hillary Clinton for her electability claim should read the article "Vote by Numbers" by Op-Ed Contributer Neil deGrasse Tyson in today''s NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/opinion/06tyson.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

[sgtrds-e4]

There are of course several GOP trolls on here claiming to be disgruntled Democrats. Real; Democrats would never vote for McCain because he''s Bush-lite and would pack the Supreme Court with men who''ll serve the wishes of the Pat Robertson''s and Pat Dobson''s of the religious right wing.

[sgtrds-e4]

The vast vast vast majority of Clinton supporters are p[arty loyalists who will vote for Barack simply because he is the party nominee. The tiny group remaining are mostly angry feminists who will vote for Barack rather as a vote AGAINST McCain and in their interests concerning Roe. The very very very few left who may vote for McCain out of spite because Hillary lost the nomination are far too few and too widely scattered to make any difference at all.

[tiredofobama]

Men have obcessed enough about being president of the United States to assassinate each other. They''''ve obcessed over being president since they were children. They competed in ruthless backbiting campaigns scandalizing each other, cheating on their campaign funding and their wives, makeing cigar smoking back room deals, held terrible debates yelling at each other, then kissing each other''''s behind when they hate each other, and all the while pissing on their constituents, just to get the almighty dollar! They''''ve killed millions of people! And they think they''''re SANE?

A SUCCESSFUL POLITICAL WOMAN WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND SHE''''S LABELED A PSYCHO, BACKSTABBING B***CH by these bloated old bigots feeding their ego''''s that they know what''''s best for this country!

And look what a mell of hess we''''re in right now because of some bloated ego, manifest destiny spewing back room dealing arrogant smart a/s/s inexperienced CRACKHEAD just like Obama!

And you roboturkeys and the DNC expect me to vote for this inexperienced overbloated goofball just like BUSH because they made back room deals to get him nominated, like I OWE them my vote?

Whatta laugh! Too bad you can''''t control where I put my vote in the general election, after all this is the United States of America God bless it, NOT God D/amn it! Screw you!

[sgtrds-e4]

TiredofObama

Don''t let the door hit you in the as*s on the way out rowdy.

[thgdriver]

Did you know today is the 64th anniversary of D-Day in Normandy?

You can''t find one word about it at CBS. It''s sad they decided to ignore the fact.

God bless the soldiers who fought and died in the largest land invasion in human history. Their efforts and sacrifice helped keep our first amendment in place.

[sgtrds-e4]

The more the national media turns it''s eyes away from the fight that was the Democratic primary season and more toward this doddering old fool on the GOP ticket, the more his "senior moments" will add up to every-one''s embarrassment and horror. John McCain is either in early stage senile dementia or Alzheimer''s and it becomes more apparent everyday.

Barack was right, McCain has lost his bearings.

[sgtrds-e4]

Time to go walk the dogs before they take a McCain on the rugs. Unlike with old Johnny Boy it''s not as easy as just changing diapers.

[kofiananimus]

CBSnews.com has been easy on the GOP on more issues than just the run-up to the Iraq war and the falsification of intelligence:
-McCain says he supported Katrina victims when he actually voted against Katrina funding twice... CBSnews.com silent.
-McCain courted the endorsements of EXTREMELY controversial pastors Hagee and Parley... CBSnews.com was silent until McCain FINALLY rejected the endorsements, and immediately ceased coverage of Hagee and Parsley, all while continuing coverage of Rev. Wright long after Obama had rejected his support.
-McCain can%u2019t tell the difference between Sunnis and Shias... CBSnews.com is silent.
-McCain%u2019s top economic advisor, Phil Graham, is a lobbyist for the UBS bank that was the primary bank involved in the mortgage crisis, and while a Senator, instigated much of the deregulation of the mortgage industry that led to the scandals and crisis... CBSnews.com is silent.
-McCain%u2019s own GOP colleagues talk about McCain%u2019s rage disorder and outbursts with threats... CBSnews.com is silent.
WHY IS McCAIN GETTING A FREE PASS?!?!?!?

[enoughya]

What a loser. I hope McCain loses by a landside; he certainly deserves to as he embraces all the same policies as the current worst president the US has ever seen, the Bush despot. With a new low in approval at 25%, this ugly McCain despot is going to find that Americans have not appetite for another Bush-like term of government, and McCain is literally another Bush (endorses all Bush''s evil policies, including torture). How did such a McCain thug who committed adultery in the most egregious way against his first wife and ripped off the American people billions of dollars as the key player in the Keating 5 scandal get to be one of two candidates for the highest office in the land? He should be sitting in jail, like his Keating 5 buddies he squeeled on.

[condumbism]

John McLame wont pick up any Clinton supporters, except perhaps some bitter post menopausal over 50 year old obese women that could care less if abortion gets overturned by a Fascist Supreme Court.

[Torilin]

He should be sitting in jail, like his Keating 5 buddies he squeeled on.
------------------------The man is well connected! If he can weasel his way out of vietcon prisom unharmed he can get out just about anything. Remeber his daddy and grand-daddy are both Navy admirals.

[donevis-2009]

Yah so now they want us to vote for the "100 Year War" Guy. RIGHT!! It doesn''t matter the voting machines are still rigged so we''ll have to go with who they told us won anyway. "Wadda Country" "God Speed USA"

[tiredofobama]

The vast vast vast majority of Clinton supporters are p[arty loyalists who will vote for Barack simply because he is the party nominee. The tiny group remaining are mostly angry feminists who will vote for Barack rather as a vote AGAINST McCain and in their interests concerning Roe. The very very very few left who may vote for McCain out of spite because Hillary lost the nomination are far too few and too widely scattered to make any difference at all.


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Posted by SgtRDS-E4 at 11:56 AM : Jun 06, 200

This twit right here thinks that repeating this BS over and over is going to make it so, however, internet sites are organizing as we speak and thousands are signing up! You people thinking that anything about this was fair when Obama totally blocked the votes of two states in his back room dealings is going to work, is absurd!

[mswolfestock]

I''ll never vote for any candidate who is "a committed foe of abortion rights." His anti-abortion stance will alienate women. McCain would be better suited as the CEO of the AARP, where he can surround himself in old out-of-touch curmudgeons like himself. He''s too old to offer what this country needs to get back on the right track. He''s too naive - he doesn''t get it. He doesn''t understand that he cannot constantly re-invent himself. He is what he is - an old, sick, out of touch Republican. Yuck. Icky, Icky.

[Torilin]

doesn''''t matter the voting machines are still rigged---------------------Thanks for reminding everyone that ugly episode of US history. If I remember right most of those "mal-functioning" voting machines were found in teh East Coast, rigged to favor Bush for the last 2 elections.

[mswolfestock]

I''m also terrified that McLame will bring back Darth Vader (aka Cheney). If that thought is not enough to send y''all screaming into the streets, then you are just as out of touch as McLame is.

[tiredofobama]

TiredofObama - what website? for whom?


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Posted by ccfsdca at 12:27 PM : Jun 06, 2008

Websites organizing disenfranchised democratic votes to vote for McCain.

[Torilin]

anything about this was fair when Obama totally blocked the votes of two states in his back room dealings is going to work, is absurd! ------------It''s over, LET IT GO!! If HRC can do it...SO CAN YOU!

[tiredofobama]

This is an organized effort by the people to show the DNC that their plan of action to take the choice of the DNC nominee out of the hands of the voters is just NOT going to work!

If they can''t revise their plans to count votes instead of some complex ying yang crapdoodle delegate and superdelegate policy for choosing a candidate just isn''t going to cut it anymore.

And we''re going to do it by a show of hands votes in OPPOSITION TO THE DNC!

[KYJurisDoctor]

At a time when John McCain needs to be running away from President Bush, he seems to be embracing him and his policies, and yet he takes umbrage at any suggestion that his presidency will be a Bush the 3rd.

AMAZING, and that''s one way for him to lose the support of Independents and Moderates he needs to win in November!

Again, AMAZING.

[libra127]

There is an interesting article on the relative electability of Clinton, Obama, and McCain in today''s NY Times. It is called "Vote by Numbers" by Op-Ed Contributer Neil deGrasse Tyson:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/opinion/06tyson.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

It analyzes current polls to show that Clinton would beat McCain, but McCain would beat Obama in the GE.

[sgtrds-e4]

John McCain is a walking talking lying wholly owned subsidiary of Washington lobbyists. He is the very embodiment of a bought and paid for business as usual GOP Senator.

[hoseobama]

obama - another failed demoncrat from chicago. Can''t wait until the rezko hits the fan. The demoncrats will be left without a hope again.

Yup, anarchists, "GD America", shady real estate deals, bigots and racists - these are a few of his favorite things.

[mcvet]

obama - another failed demoncrat from chicago. Can''''t wait until the rezko hits the fan. The demoncrats will be left without a hope again.

Yup, anarchists, "GD America", shady real estate deals, bigots and racists - these are a few of his favorite things.



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Posted by hoseobama at 12:41 PM : Jun 06, 2008
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Folks you have to love these bootlickers! ROFLMAO They aren''t intelligent enough to come up with real honest points so they cut an paste the same tired old garbage from sites like the American Nazi Party and the Klan.. I saw this one on the Nazi Party site the other night. But hey, we''ve endured them for over 200 years now, so what can you do!! Sieg Heil Bush

[tiredofobama]

John McCain is a walking talking lying wholly owned subsidiary of Washington lobbyists. He is the very embodiment of a bought and paid for business as usual GOP Senator.



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Posted by SgtRDS-E4 at 12:39 PM : Jun 06, 2008

So is Obama, so what''s the deal? Obama callling for lobbyists to get out of Washington when he has 47 of them on his campaign team is kind of absurd!

If Obama wants to disagree with McCain, he should pick another fight, because this one just doesn''t wash!

Obama''s lobbyists are all oil and energy and banking people, and so is his bundling and PAC money! Without them throwing money at him right and left, Obama couldn''t have bought one ad!

[metroduck75]

To all the Arrogant Obama''s Supporters,

Let''s be very clear...

I am not simply a Democrat, I am a Hillary Democrat.

Take that while you are basking in your 2nd coming Obama.

[mcvet]

anything about this was fair when Obama totally blocked the votes of two states in his back room dealings is going to work, is absurd! ------------It''''s over, LET IT GO!! If HRC can do it...SO CAN YOU!


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Posted by peanutcrisp at 12:31 PM : Jun 06, 2008
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Yeah yeah! YOU crackers just do your best!! ROFLMAO This tired old man is your savior huh??? ROFLMAO THERE''s a VERY big wave headed right at you freaks... guess you can''t see it with those blinders on huh??? Sieg Heil Bush

[mcvet]

It analyzes current polls to show that Clinton would beat McCain, but McCain would beat Obama in the GE.



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Posted by libra127 at 12:38 PM : Jun 06, 2008
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Now Sparky I watched the BOTH of them speak the other night. I listened as they laid out their plan for this nation. NO amount of spin is going to change this thing and it ain''t good for the fascist... not good at all. McSame isn''t going to change "Trickle Down", McSame isn''t going to do one *** thing about those UNFAIR Trade Agreements and McSame isn''t going to do one thing about Health Care.. it''s just a reality. IF PEOPLE want to vote AGAINST their interest I guess they will but reality is that the SAME problems will be with us 4 years from now.. just much worse. SIEG HEIL BUSH

[bigsk8fan]

except for his approval of an illegal war, his support of george w bush economics, and his generally republican stance on all issues, mcclone should be able to garner many clinton voters.

NOT!

[hoseobama]

metroduck75 - thank-you for your support. I''ve learned today that not all Democrats are as I thought them to be.

I''m amending my previous statement to:

obama - another "also ran" insignificant from the Chicago political machine. Can''t wait until the rezko hits the fan. The far left will be without a hope again.

Yup, anarchists, "GD America", shady real estate deals, bigots and racists - these are a few of his favorite things.

[sgtrds-e4]

This was a long and bruising Democratic primary. There are some angry people on both sides and I have no doubt that there are some Hillary supporters who are bitter and claim to pollsters that they''ll vote for McCain out of spite. Still I don''t believe it. When it comes down to the time to mark their ballots they''ll look at that (R) after McCain''s name and they''ll realize that voting for him means many many more dead soldiers in Iraq whose lives will be thrown away for nothing. They''ll realize that voting for him means more unemployment, more jobs outsourced overseas and more people losing their homes. They''ll realize that he''ll pack the Supreme Court with Justices in the line of Pat Robertson or Rev Haggee who''ll turn back generations of work and sweat and blood and even lives in the struggle for women''s rights and civil rights.

They just won''t be able to bring themselves to vote for more of them same and even much worse then the past 8 years. They my not want to vote for Barack, but they WILL vote against a third Bush term with McCain.

[metroduck75]

Let the truth be known, Obama is Selected (by the Media and Top Democratic Leaders), not Elected.

Despite the Media Hosts avoid talking about it, he Lost the popular Votes. And he has been losing since the Media pronounced him as "Presumptive Nominee" in March.

So if he is Smart enough, he will invite Hillary to run as a "2-for-1" Campaign.

Then, Democrat Party will win in a Landslide.

If not, say Hi to President McCain.