June 5, 2008

The Clinton Campaign's Final Chapter

Washington Post: Among Insiders, The Night Of May 6 Will Be Remembered As The Moment It Really Ended

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    Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., acknowledges supporters during a rally Tuesday, June 3, 2008, in New York.  (AP)

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(Washingtonpost.com)  This story was written by Anne E. Kornblut and Dan Balz.


In a campaign of near-deaths and premature obituaries, the night of May 6 will be remembered inside Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign as the moment it really ended.

The staff had settled into the war room at the campaign's Arlington headquarters. Mexican food, as always, had been ordered. The candidate was in Indianapolis. All anticipated another good night in a campaign that had put together an impressive streak of big-state primary victories in Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania over the previous two months.

But whatever slim hopes Clinton had for an improbable comeback died with the disappointing results in the last two big primaries of the campaign -- a narrower-than-hoped-for victory in Indiana and a double-digit loss in North Carolina -- and the commentary that accompanied them. When NBC's Tim Russert flatly declared the Democratic race over around midnight, one adviser recalled, "the air came out of the room."

In subsequent days, a debate that had raged throughout the long nomination battle -- whether to attack Barack Obama or present Clinton positively -- virtually disappeared. What negative ads had been run were removed. The senator from New York, save for two notable slips, stopped criticizing Obama and focused on making the case for herself. Other defeats and other victories, including a win in West Virginia by 41 points, followed.

But there was a sense of resignation within the campaign. She would carry on, but the outcome was inevitable. "She could accept losing," one adviser said. "She could not accept quitting."

In many respects, the final chapter of the Clinton campaign was the best of times for a candidacy that began with Clinton seen as an almost-inevitable nominee and ended with the former first lady fighting off calls to quit. Aides look back at a campaign that, as it finished, functioned effectively and mostly collegially after months of turmoil and bitter internecine warfare. Clinton found her voice, liberated by the reality of the hill she had to climb and by her ability to focus on rising economic concerns among voters.

"Over the last four months we've won more states, more delegates, more votes," communications director Howard Wolfson said yesterday. "We won two states that we started out behind in and were not supposed to win. I'm proud of the way we closed and wish that that level of success had been the case throughout."

In reality, Clinton lost the nomination long before May 6. The early mistakes have been well documented: a flawed message that focused too much on inevitability and not enough on change; a failure to make Clinton more appealing to Iowa voters; a strategic miscalculation about the importance of caucus states; a spouse, former president Bill Clinton, who intruded as much as he aided his wife; a campaign that was at times dysfunctional.

Her success came mostly when it was too late. Clinton's strategy was predicated by necessity on convincing uncommitted superdelegates that she would be a stronger nominee than Obama. Despite victories in key states over the past few months, she and her advisers found those party leaders and elected officials impervious to events.

Asked why the campaign could never crack the superdelegates, who had started out predisposed toward her candidacy, Geoff Garin, one of the top strategists, said yesterday, "I think it's a mystery and an irony, and an irony in the sense that Hillary was seen as inevitable when it didn't matter and Obama was seen as inevitable when it did."

Clinton's victories in the Ohio and Texas primaries on March 4 revived her candidacy, and a series of mistakes by Obama gave it hope.

The first came on March 14, when an explosive video of Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., came to light. Clinton and her team saw the Wright controversy for what it was, a major challenge to Obama's candidacy and a potentially significant problem in a general election.

But they also knew that the topic was radioactive, particularly for a team that had been accused of injecting race into the nomination battle. "Our track record of dealing with race vis-à-vis his campaign is dismal," one official said.

Raising the issue publicly was so sensitive that when Harold Ickes, a senior strategist overseeing the delegate operation, mentioned in one interview that Wright had been raised in conversations by superdelegates, he was admonished by Maggie Williams, the campaign's new manager.

Clinton's team showed no such reluctance to engage after the next Obama misstep, after the Huffington Post Web site reported in April that Obama, at a San Francisco fundraiser, had described small-town Pennsylvanians as "bitter" over their economic situation and said that, as a result, they tend to "cling" to religion and guns.

"We thought that this was a legitimate and important conversation about who the Democratic Party stands for and how it stands for them," Garin said.

The Clinton high command treated the "bitter comment" as, in the words of one adviser, a "full-court, full-throated, no-holds-barred" opportunity. "It was a moment tied to the particular state where we were competing and where we needed a big victory. There was a recognition that it was something we needed to drive very hard, and we did."

Five days later, in the final debate of the primaries, ABC News moderators Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos grilled Obama relentlessly over Wright, his association with 1960s radical William Ayers and even why he did not wear an American-flag pin on his lapel.

Clinton emerged from Pennsylvania with a victory that nearly matched her 10-point margin in Ohio. Her campaign responded with the message "The tide is turning."

Lifting spirits further still was a new campaign apparatus. Gone was Patti Solis Doyle, the less-experienced loyalist, replaced by the older and firmer Williams -- a professional management consultant who knew, in the words of one adviser, "how to say no."

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"She could accept losing... She could not accept quitting."

Williams and another longtime confidante, Cheryl Mills, closed ranks around the candidate -- demanding an end to the backstabbing that had poisoned the campaign early on, returning phone calls and running meetings on time, making decisions that had lingered. Not everyone was happy. But for the first time, the office seemed to run relatively smoothly.

Gone, too -- or at least moved to the side -- was Mark Penn, the irascible chief strategist who had provoked so much ire during the early days of the race. Replaced by Garin, an affable and well-liked pollster, Penn took on a new role as the outside consigliore advising the Clintons to remain aggressive in the face of doubts about the campaign.

With Penn out of the top leadership, staff members felt that some of the dysfunction had been removed. Some even expressed warm feelings toward Penn, saying they could hear his advice in a more neutral way. "He is still sending in edits, but we can ignore them" was how one adviser put it.

The Clinton team still split along familiar lines, with some (including Wolfson and Mandy Grunwald) arguing for softer, more positive rhetoric, and others (including Penn) taking a hard line, encouraging the candidate to attack Obama. Penn also thought a far more aggressive strategy was needed in the effort to corral superdelegates. "Brute force" was his recommendation.

But the yelling matches were less frequent. "It's not a bad place to work anymore," one senior adviser said in late May, adding, with a wry smile: "Except we're losing."

What happened in Indiana and North Carolina was a classic case of expectations getting away from the campaign. Obama had always been heavily favored in North Carolina because of the size of the state's African American vote. Indiana appeared to be more of a tossup, although the campaign's early polls showed Obama leading by eight or nine points.

Ace Smith had been sent to North Carolina after pulling off important victories in California and Texas. Robby Mook, who had earned the respect of the campaign for his work in Nevada and Ohio, was put in charge of Indiana.

In late March, the Clinton team gathered at the candidate's home in Northwest Washington, and there, according to several present, Smith offered an optimistic assessment of North Carolina. Smith declined to comment about what he said was a private meeting. But, he said, "we were cornered and we had to fight that battle, and when you go into fight a battle you'd better be optimistic or you're doomed to failure from the beginning."

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By Anne E. Kornblut and Dan Balz
© 2008 The Washington Post Company

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by questionnews June 5, 2008 1:23 PM EDT
Local polls here in the NW show that 54% of democrates do not want Obama to offer Clinton the VP spot. Many indicated that if Clinton is on the ticket they will either vote for McCain or won''t vote at all.

Is Hillery really that unpopular among the Dems??
I didn''t think she was all that bad.
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by taddles2 June 5, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
"Clinton told her advisers that one reason she was committed to staying in was out of loyalty to those supporters, and her belief that they could be rallied to Obama more easily if she was allowed to finish the campaign on her own terms."


What an utter load of cr4p. Hillary''s concern was rallying middle class voters to Obama?!?! If she actually said that she should be crucified.

Hillary has been all about Hillary since day one, she was the "chosen", the "pre-ordained" queen of the ball that everyone was just supposed to roll over and vote for because she was Bill''s wife.
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by taddles2 June 5, 2008 1:31 PM EDT
"Is Hillery really that unpopular among the Dems??
I didn''''t think she was all that bad.

Posted by Questionnews at 10:23 AM : Jun 05, 2008"


She wasn''t until half way through the election cycle. She was the presumptive nominee, all she had to do was show up and she would have been chosen. Then she made the mistake of underestimating her opponents and underestimating the value of caucuses and some of the early states and Obama took advantage of that. After Super Tuesday it was all down hill with Hillary going on and on about how she was being unfairly attacked. The whining lost her the election.
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by aldon61 June 5, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
I''d like to get some opinions on whether Obama should add Hillary to the ticket. My gut say''s NO, but there is some logic to adding her to the ticket. In my opinon, she has too many negatives and her own words that she''s used against Obama can be brought up again. Her negatives include the Bosnia event, husband Bill, lack of preparation for a major campaign and mishandling her finances during the campaign. On the other hand, her supporters are energized, and very loyal to her. They may either stay home or vote for McCain. I''m not sure Obama can carry some of the swing states like Florida and Ohio, maybe Pennsylvania without her. Let''s try to get a discussion going on this.
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by flreason June 5, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
The problem with Hillary on the ticket is Bill. Her candidacy was always a 2-for-1. I think both Hillary and Bill would have a hard time with being #2 after having been #1. Obama doesn''t need someone constantly second-guessing him...there are enough Republicans to do that. She will have more power in the Senate than as VP. And VPs have rarely succeeded at being elected to the top post, if she still has Presidential aspirations. They''re always saddled with the sins of their bosses.
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by libh8er June 5, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
''Is Hillery really that unpopular among the Dems??
I didn''''t think she was all that bad.''

The press is treating she and Bill in a manner deserving of how they should have been treated back in the 90''s.

But, back then, they were the LAMEstream media''s darlings. Now, they have a new leftwing, socialist liberal to back so they threw the Clintons under the bus.....like Cindy Sheehan.....disposable people.






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by briannorwood June 5, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
After reading this article, it seems Hillary felt she got "slapped in the face" alot. NARAL, the DNC, the Superdelegates.

Fact is, she ran a lousy campaign. She lost and that''s about it.
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by anappleadae June 5, 2008 3:22 PM EDT
If the reports are true Hillary has chosen to fall on her sword and go down with the Dems.

As for voters my confidence says, in spite of everything which is happening, we will do what is right and prudent, because we are the most fantastic and advanced society on the planet.
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by anappleadae June 5, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
taddles

How can you afford a computer on welfare?
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by randynason June 5, 2008 3:29 PM EDT
Personally, I tend to peek at the final chapter before I actually get underway reading a book. -heh-
This was no romance novel, my dear.
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by anappleadae June 5, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
fireseason

Today Obama said he wants Bill Clinton on his team, because he is so "transcendent".
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by quatermass2 June 5, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
Oh, I agree - McCain and Clinton are perfect for each other. Both hopeless relics, tied to sleazy and shady financial deals, and with teeth-baring, children-scaring grimaces for smiles. And think of the fun we''d have with that manic red-faced finger-waving Bill running around in the background. Why, we''d have endless war AND sleaze ALL the time! What a great idea!
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by nanging3 June 5, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
Father Pfleger, has been suspended for a few weeks. He will probably be snuck back in under the radar. We want him shipped to Kenya or defrocked.. We are sure he can get a job at TUCC, with the other radical, racist, Marxist..

Please sign to demand he be removed permanently%u2026This is not his 1st rodeo !
He has been preaching, according to one parishoner, %u201CBlack Theology%u201D from the sacred pulpit, that was entrusted to him, of the catholic church since 1981.

www.thepetitionsite.com/1/removable-of-father-michael-pfleger
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by nanging3 June 5, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
I will not vot fro ANY ticket with racist, radical, Obama on it...

Obama has on staff several nation of Islam members:
"Obama employed and continues to employ several Farrakhan acolytes in high
positions on his Illinois and U.S. Senate campaign and office staffs."

That raises the question of an actual ''relationship'' with Farrakan...

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by hillaryphan June 5, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
DINGY NEIGHBORHOODS????

I am latino. I am offended. Some of us call DINGY neighborhoods home. Look in a thesaurus to see what words come to mind.

Disgusting.

John McCain 08!!!!!!!!
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by stn_sage June 5, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
Apparently Kornblut and Balz wrote this article with the intend to appease Clinton and her supporters.

They cite factors that hurt the campaign such as it was at times dysfunctional or a husband that said things he shouldn''t, or people who didn''t deliver for her, or a public that didn''t give her credit for her victories, or a media who was unfair, or she was besieged by sexism, on and on and on!

But, they fail to cite the REAL reason, that''s Hillary herself! Her attitude was NEGATIVE from the beginning. She conveyed the aire that she was ENTITLED to the presidency! She thought she could win it by employing negative campaign tactics!

What she failed to understand---strangely enough---was that the public was dead tired with the negative, dirty campaigning tactics! THAT''S what cost her the election! Had she come out at the beginning and ran a positive campaign, I believe she would have won it!

Her failure to immediately endorse Obama and unify the party makes her look like a sore loser! And, a very SMALL person---character wise.

She''s alienated millions of voters, if she wants to run for president again in the future, she needs to adjust the attitude and recapture the trust of the public; otherwise, she doesn''t have a chance!

She wasn''t beaten by Obama, she beat herself!
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by omaar-101 June 5, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
June 4th, 2008

Hamas Un-Endorses Obama after speech to Pro-Israel Lobby

Hamas, Israel, Jerusalem, John McCain, Palestinians
WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama may have taken care of his Hamas problem on Wednesday with a speech to the AIPAC pro-Israel lobby.


That may have changed Wednesday, when Obama went before American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Washington a day after clinching the Democratic nomination and declared his strong support for Israel.



Hamas promply unendorsed Obama, a Christian who has had difficulty dispelling a rumor campaign suggesting he is a Muslim and that his advisers have a pro-Arab bent.

%u201CObama%u2019s comments have confirmed that there will be no change in the U.S. administration%u2019s foreign policy on the Arab-Israeli conflict,%u201D Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters in Gaza.

%u201CThe Democratic and Republican parties support totally the Israeli occupation at the expense of the interests and rights of Arabs and Palestinians,%u201D he said.

%u201CHamas does not differentiate between the two presidential candidates, Obama and McCain, because their policies regarding the Arab-Israel conflict are the same and are hostile to us, therefore we do have no preference and are not wishing for either of them to win,%u201D Zuhri said.

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by jack3213 June 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
Up till now, and far be it for me to ask, being too late in the game, and for humorous purposes only:
Noone has yet said or answered the question:
"WHAT HAS HILLARY DONE TO PROVE SHE IS QUALIFIED?" I suppose being just a Senator is enough these days?
So, now the question is put forth to Obama :
"WHAT HAS HE ACHIEVED TO PROVE HE IS QUALIFIED?"

We all know McCain has more life experiance for one, and for two- HE is an honorable vet whom= has seen first hand what war is, what is possible to change war, and what exatly CHANGE means.

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by jesterbelle June 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT
"While being treated in the psychiatric ward for her attack on Barrack Obama in Colorado,Bill ahd a chance meeting with Monica Lewinsky.He divorced Hillary soon after,married Lewinsky,and moved to France.Hillary can be seen these days,wandering the streets of New York,pushing a shopping cart with a woman known only as "Rowdy" in it,both of them yelling at the top of their lungs "It ain''t over yet!"
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by renonv5 June 5, 2008 5:40 PM EDT
She should just suspend her candidacy like John Edwards did. Congratulate Barack and wish him well, then walk away and see what transpires. By the tone of the comments here, it seems he will not need all those voters that were for her, on his side.
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by Cas2dy June 5, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
Posted by ccfsdca at 12:53 PM : Jun 05, 2008
i predict that now that obama has secured the nomination with 90% of the black vote of the party, we''''ll see his white mother and grandmother more often as he tries to get those middle class white voters in the swing states. whadya think?

I wouldn''t mind seieng his multicultural family. it will only serve to remind me of just how cozy a family can be when ALL of its members are equally recognized within the unit...unlike the days when all the little "colored" children were relegated to the servants quarters, on or offsite, but mostly (and notably)...out of sight.
Fortunately today, many, many families are very diverse and so what Obama represents is not simply Black and White, it''s the actual diversity of American families today.
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by rufisgufis June 5, 2008 5:57 PM EDT
We all know McCain has more life experiance for one, and for two- HE is an honorable vet whom= has seen first hand what war is, what is possible to change war, and what exatly CHANGE means.


Posted by jack3213
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What exactly is that "experience?" Please notice the correct spelling of "exactly."
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by likeitis5050 June 5, 2008 6:13 PM EDT
It''s been such fun watching Hillary play ball with the big boys....and she''s got skillz....I don''t know about qualifications that make her exceptional...but the gal has skillz. Obama is about to chalk yet another one up for the history books and he is on par with her when it comes to qualifications...but hey...who the heck is seriously looking to elect someone highly qualified for the job...first black..first woman...either will do. And with any luck they''ll still both be on the same ticket!!! Score one for the parasites waiting in line for free government money these two will cook up in the kitchen of government programs to reward the pathetic and lazy who think the world owes them as much as those who actually get up and work for a living!! Wooohoooo!!! Great day coming.
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by tazmjam June 5, 2008 6:18 PM EDT
WILL THE OBAMITES VILIFY AND BLAME HER NO MATTER WHAT SHE DOES, EVEN IF SHE CAMPAIGNS HER *** OFF FOR HIM?
whathink?

Posted by ccfsdca



Yes they will...and so will the MSM. So many of the Obama supporters are young or first time voters, they don%u2019t realize this Primary season was pretty mellow compared to some in the past. Ted Kennedy in 1980 is a perfect example...Hillary has been a much more gracious loser than he was...he wouldn%u2019t even shake Carters hand.
The thing that irritates me more than anything is some of the little weasels on here who threaten her career if she doesn%u2019t do such and such, or if he loses, other public officials who have supported her have also been threatened. They remind me of those %u201Cfar right%u201D Christian groups that are endlessly threatening to boycott businesses on some superior moral ground.
As for the MSM they have stoked the fires of discontent and their bias has shown this election cycle...making everything they report suspect. My one consolation is that because of the Internet within the next 10 to 20 years they will probably be extinct,they just don%u2019t realize it yet.
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by medmom04 June 5, 2008 6:40 PM EDT
so can we celebrate Obama''s win yet, or is there still something underhanded hanging in the air? I just can''t believe Hillary is not up to something. The Clinton machine, as unethical and corrupt as it is, continues to refuse to acknowledge this. Let this be a lesson: there are more dignified ways to behave when you do not get your way. Coping skills, coping skills.
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by taddles2 June 5, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
""WHAT HAS HE ACHIEVED TO PROVE HE IS QUALIFIED?"

Posted by jack3213 at 02:08 PM : Jun 05, 2008"


Beaten Hillary.
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by taddles2 June 5, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
"WILL THE OBAMITES VILIFY AND BLAME HER NO MATTER WHAT SHE DOES, EVEN IF SHE CAMPAIGNS HER *** OFF FOR HIM?
whathink?

Posted by ccfsdca "


If Hillary supporters support Obama and he wins, Hillary will have a huge amount of clout because Obama WILL OWE HER for the win because of her millions of supporters. If Obama loses and Hillary is shown to have worked hard to secure his win she will be vindicated and will win the 2012 nomination because she will be seen as having been the one who should have been chosen.

Either way it''''s win win for Hillary if she and her supporters support Obama, either way it''''s lose lose if she and her supporters do not support Obama.
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by nanging3 June 5, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
We can make one change and that is getting Father Pfleger removed, Please sign and pass it on, if you haven%u2019t already.
Suspending him is not enough%u2026The whole world is watching the archbishop in Chicago and his handling of Pfleger.
He has allowed Pfleger to desecrate the pulpit preaching racial hatred and %u201CBlack Theology%u201D and even allowing Nation of Islam, anti-semitic and anti-white Farrahkan to spew his hate from the catholic church pulpit.
ENOUGH !!!! Archbishop !!

www.thepetitionsite.com/1/removabl
e-of-father-michael-pfleger
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by nanging3 June 5, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
I will NEVER vote for any ticket with Obama on it. I feel betrayed that Hillary would ask us to support him.
I was hoping she would run as an Independent. Hillary owes nothing to the Democratic Party who swift boated her.
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by eddynewhope June 5, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
Awwwe - Isn''t that cute. The haters are out (McCain''s 527 bloggers-for-rent). Good luck in November. You''re obsolete fear and smear campaign worked really well against in the primary. LOL.
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by clovisbuford June 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT
"I will NEVER vote for any ticket with Obama on it. I feel betrayed that Hillary would ask us to support him."nanging3 errr take your ball and go home then I was an Edwards supporter and when he lost i moved on.more likely you are a troll,whatever there is not a gnats difference in the democrats position , so you either vote democrat or for a third Bush term ..good luck with that one it has been so successful.. do you need cheese with that whine?
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by zavatchen June 6, 2008 2:48 AM EDT
Hillary will forever be a winner. What an incredible human being.
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by ptsdveteran June 6, 2008 10:22 AM EDT
PUMA democrat? What a joke!!!! Your letters should be PUKES for Clinton. You are not a TruAmerican. Clinton lost!!!!!! Booooooo, Hooooooo, Hooooooo, Waaaaaaaa, Waaaaaaaaaa, Waaaaaaaaaaaaa, sniff, sniff!!!!!!!! Now she can go back to the senate and do nothing. Just like before!!!!
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by fuzzybear9 June 6, 2008 11:01 AM EDT
Hello Woman Democrat Voters

Fuzzy Bear can you give us gals something to smile about ?

well lets just say that Hillary made a good showing, if she had been able to put her best foot forward earlier in the race things may have been different,
the trouble was, we all knew Hillary very well,
we only later confirmed our suspicions about Obama when it was far too late.

But the nation as a whole wants CHANGE, change to what we don`t know,
and where do Women voters find a party that stands for their Ideas?
there is none.

the Old Kennedy Womanizer Molesting Black Caccuss Party ?

or the Toe Tapping Airport Restroom closet **** Party ?

not much choice is there ?

I guess we just hate to see all those soccer moms revert back to the Kennedy Era of using woman like a piece of cheap meat (Marilyn Monroe and Mary Joe Kapichnik) and then discarding them in Chapaquitic Bay? Yes the old Black Caccus of The Kennedy Mob has won again, The Chicago Bosses have come out on top.

who will you vote for ?

Fuzzy Has no clue, we have run out of options.

sincerely Fuzzy Bear
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by craigh9 June 6, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
If Obama loses and Hillary is shown to have worked hard to secure his win she will be vindicated and will win the 2012 nomination because she will be seen as having been the one who should have been chosen.
Either way it''''''''s win win for Hillary if she and her supporters support Obama, either way it''''''''s lose lose if she and her supporters do not support Obama.
Posted by taddles2 at 06:32 PM : Jun 05, 2008

I disagree, I believe that if Obama loses, no matter what the circumstances, I think Hillary will be looked at as the primary cause as she has robbed him of 2 months worth of time to unify the party and to take McCain on directly.
Hillary lost her one and only opportunity for the presidency - the party will never embrace her again as they have in the past - the torch has been past to a newer younger group within the democratic party and they will not retrest from that.
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by boycot-china June 6, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
Facing criticism, Obama CHANGES his Jerusalem stance last night. How many other issues is he going to CHANGE for the election? I am still very hurt and shocked that it took so long for Senator Obama to finally quit his Church and he only did so in response to quieting the complaints. Here''''s another example of Senator Obama''''s hypocritical CHANGE stance. He complained openly about a white Imus, but was very careful not to apply the same intense scrutiny to his black pastor. What''''s the beef? Senator Obama tried to mend the racial barrier that he has created, but in reality he created more of a CHANGE and divide instead of a healing. Why is Senator Obama lying to America? He lost my vote, because he''''s trying to pull another con job just like the dirty land developer that Senator Obama still accepts money from. Yes, the same developer that was in court this week for illegal money laundering. The same guy who gave the Obama family special rates on the Obama''''s multi-million dollar home. I wonder if Senator Obama is going to CHANGE his story on that one too?
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by rufisgufis June 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
IN HILLARY''S SICK WORLD IT''S ALL HER. SHE STILL WANTS TO HOG THE LIMELIGHT WITH HER UGLY MUG. SHE NEEDS TO GET OVER HERSELF. THIS IS OBAMA''S MOMENT- NOT HERS.
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by rufisgufis June 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
IN HILLARY''S SICK WORLD IT''S ALL HER. SHE STILL WANTS TO HOG THE LIMELIGHT WITH HER UGLY MUG. SHE NEEDS TO GET OVER HERSELF. THIS IS OBAMA''S MOMENT- NOT HERS.
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by rufisgufis June 6, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
I will NEVER vote for any ticket with Obama on it.

Posted by nanging3 at 06:49 PM : Jun 05, 2008
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Who cares? No one expects racists to vote for Obama.
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by rufisgufis June 6, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
IN HILLARY''S SICK WORLD IT''S ALL ABOUT HER. SHE STILL WANTS TO HOG THE LIMELIGHT WITH HER UGLY MUG. SHE NEEDS TO GET OVER HERSELF. THIS IS OBAMA''S MOMENT- NOT HERS.
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