GOOSE CREEK, S.C. , June 5, 2008
(CBS/AP)
A 10-year-old South Carolina boy died several hours after he swallowed water in a swimming pool at his apartment complex.Boy Drowns Hours After Leaving Pool
10-Year-Old Autistic Youth An Apparent Victim Of "Secondary Drowning"
Jon Jon Jackson's stunned and grieving mother is still trying to comprehend how her son could have drowned, according to The Post and Courier of Charleston.
"I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this," Cassandra Jackson told the newspaper. "It's really bizarre."
Jon Jon was autistic, but this played no role in his death.
Goose Creek police said Jackson swallowed some water while swimming around noon Sunday. Police said he later complained he was tired and took a nap. When someone checked on him, water was coming out of his nose and he was having trouble breathing.
The boy later died at Trident Hospital. Berkeley County Coroner Glenn Rhoad said the boy's lungs were filled with water and he died of asphyxiation. Rhoad said there was nothing suspicious about the death, and no way adults at the pool could have known what was happening.
The Post and Courier said so-called secondary drowning can occur up to 72 hours later and without any warning signs, according to medical experts.
Jon Jon's mother urged other parents to watch their children closely.
"Please check them when they get out of the pool. Just watch them like a hawk," she told the newspaper. "It tears me up inside. It's a heck of a sacrifice, but if this will help someone else, then it's all worth it."
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Millions of kids swim every summer. Why this child and why now?
Posted by antoniof123 at 11:05 AM : Jun 05, 2008
People have dumbed down. Apparently the posters for this article have never had a child choke on a little water at a pool, or even done it themselves. Not only that, how many children are exhausted after swimming for the day at a pool? It''s so easy to jump and blame when you''re an idiot....
How many other times since the beginning of the world have you ever heard about "secondary drowning"? I never have and I have owned pools. There was never a disclaimer about vigilence for secondary drowning.
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I guess we are not speaking the same language. I don''t understand your statement about "(and by the way, I''m on to you because I read on another site that the child was slightly autistic)". It states on this site that the child is autistic. I am not making any negative statement about this situation. I just want to know how the medical community came up with this bogus diagnosis.
I think the point is missed here: This isn''t an autistic phenomenon. Nowhere does this article suggest autism played a roll. It appears he choked at the pool but some water remained in his lungs. That fluid resulted in asphyxiation later on.
Point? If your child inhales (not swallows) water be concerned if he becomes tired / sleepy afterwards. Unfortunately an afternoon in the pool often leaves one tired and ready for a nap. Non-autistic people have died as long as 72 hours later.
Jesus jeepers holycow batman. Keep a sharp eye out for the symptoms on this one lest you be accused of being stupid or a bad parent.
The general warning signs for this include: coughing; trouble breathing; pain in the lungs or chest especially when taking a deep breath; and a feeling of swallowing or inhaling water.
It is vital that this person get medical attention as quickly as possible. As the name implies, the person can drown even several hours later as the fluid in the lungs impairs the breathing process. Water also will damage the inside surface of the lung, collapse the alveoli and cause a hardening of the lungs with a reduced ability to exchange air." http://www.firstaidtopics.com/secondary-drowning/
This aticle doesn''t say anything about any of these symptoms, and is possibly a little confused as to "swallowing" or "inhaling" a little water. I think some of the facts have been lost in the media''s translation as usual.
Millions of kids swim every summer. Why this child and why now?
Posted by barbaraf4 at 10:53 AM : Jun 05, 2008"
I''ve heard of it, but its a rare occurrence.
Get off the mother''s back people, she''s going through enough stress as it is.
You are in my prayers Jackson Family.
Clearly she''s in shock.
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I have not said a single negative word about this child''s mother. I also have not said a single negative word about this child. He is autistic. That is a statement, NOT an accusation.
Thank you for your kind words. It''s nice to get positive feedback on these postings.
This child may have been autistic, but that FAR from makes him retarded. He may be an extremely inteligent person. You obviously are not intelligent enough to know that there are literally 36 different levels of autisim and of those there are different degrees to which a person may be affected. AND to that I would like to add that this article which I see on my screen in black and white, states that his medical condition had not played a role in his secondary drowning.
My heart (which MyOpinion1 appears to not have) goes out to the family and friends of this child who has left this world all to early!
Oh well!
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=5001282&page=1
HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT INTO A SWIMMING POOL!
Posted by DaVicar2 at 12:29 PM
ladyalthea~ it was davicar2 who made that completely ignorant remark - as usual.
My sympathies to Cassandra Jackson and her family.
So I stand corrected 2 people who have posted their ignorance here today.
You can "swallow" water into your lungs if you are trying to breath and swallow at the same time. At the neck there are two tubes--one for your airway and one for your digestive track.
The flap covering either one is the "epliglottis". It is normally pointed upward, but during swallowing, elevation of the hyoid bone draws the larynx upward; as a result, the epiglottis folds down to a more horizontal position. In this manner it prevents food from going into the trachea and instead directs it to the esophagus, which is more posterior.
However, if he was breathing while swallowing the water, it is possible to have inhaled some of the water as well. Rhoad said there was nothing suspicious about the death, and no way adults at the pool could have known what was happening. This is true since we can not see into the lungs without an x-ray or ultrasound.
This is why you do not swim alone, and you monitor everyone; if anyone goes underwater or has swallowed water, you should take them to an ER to make sure their lungs are clear.
Hopefully the information I provided will help someone.
My condolences to the family.
The above can happen at anytime to anyone. It is not age or situation specific. Having spent time in the healthcare field, I saw numerous people admitted for observation to rule out Pulmonary Edema. There are also lab tests to test for it as well.
"Anyone who has been submerged and has aspirated should seek medical attention."--that is taken from an ABC news article. And, it is good advice.
Water, regardless of its salt content, will damage the inside surface of the lung, collapse the alveoli and cause pulmonary edema with a reduced ability to exchange air. This may cause death up to 72 hours after a near drowning incident. This is called secondary drowning. Inhaling certain poisonous vapors or gases will have a similar effect.
So I stand corrected 2 people who have posted their ignorance here today.
Posted by LadyAlthea at 02:13 PM : Jun 05, 2008
Wow, reading comprehension isn''t your strong suit, eh? I think MyOpinion1 was talking about DaVicar2, not the child in this article. Hysteria will only get you mocked, my dear, because you clearly aren''t paying attention.
So I stand corrected 2 people who have posted their ignorance here today.
lady althea~ what?!?! do you actually read AND comprehend ANYTHING?? my goodness, honey. i will try and explain this in terms that you might understand...as i posted before, davicar2 made the completely ignorant remark - as usual...not you dear- that is, not until your last post. you may want to think about taking a chill pill or two.
once again, my condolences to the family of this young man.
The next question is what else haven''t we been told?
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by meinnv
June 6, 2008 4:14 PM PDT
- Secondary Drowning is not a dry drowning, per se. It only takes 4 ounces of water in the lungs to cause it. Water, regardless of its salt content, will damage the inside surface of the lung, collapse the alveoli and cause pulmonary edema with a reduced ability to exchange air.
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See all 35 CommentsPulmonary edema, or the accumulation of fluid in the lungs, can later result in cardiac arrest, as oxygen is prevented from getting into the blood stream and eventually stops the heart from beating.
This may cause death up to 72 hours after a near drowning incident. This is called secondary drowning. Inhaling certain poisonous vapors or gases will have a similar effect.
The reason people do not hear about it, is because usually anyone who has ingested water is taken to a hospital or a doctor to rule it out or treat it. Deaths from secondary drowning are rare, but Pulmonary Edema is quite prevalent. Hospitals treat it everyday.
That is why anyone who has ingested water, even tiny amounts should be taken for medical evaluation or treatment. There are no real symptoms to look for.
If your child or ANYONE has ingested water, please take them to the hospital or a doctor.